Re: Syria air strikes: US and allies attack [alleged] chemical weapons sites...14 Apr 2018
Well, one of the immediate consequence is that any one thinking about providing their nation with some kind of "Iron Dome" will line up at the Russian war wares counters... efficient, effective, simple, cheap and locals-operated wares.
Here is Jim Stone time line and perspective on this:SUSTAINED U.S. ATTACKS BY AMERICA HAVE BEGUN ON SYRIA. IT HAS BEEN MADE PERFECTLY CLEAR THE ATTACKS WILL BE SUSTAINED.
. . . . . .oh boy, here we go . . . . . Sleep in the basement I guess, this is the first time America has confronted a nation that is not weak.
This update is confirmed to not be a hoax, the info was 1 minute old when I got it, and the missiles had not even hit their targets yet.
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HERE IS A SHOCKER: SYRIANS CELEBRATING FAILED STRIKE
The reports on this are too early for details, other than they are definitely partying.
Evidently what we were getting through the American media was a lie.
Maybe Russia did EXCELLENT.
FACT:
Syrians are already having mass gatherings rejoicing at how the attack was repelled. Evidently the Russian missile systems did excellent and prevented a majority of American missiles from hitting their targets, as well as flustering war planes well enough to prevent them from having fully successful bombing runs. Time will tell, but for now Syrians are partying. That's really not what I expected to hear after the sun came up there. Only a full assessment will confirm whether or not the partying was justified.
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RUMOR: RUSSIAN AIR DEFENSES WERE NEAR 100 PERCENT EFFECTIVE
The reporting is in it's early stages, but I do know the lights were supposed to go out, and they did not.
It is now completely confirmed that Syrians are now partying, in celebration of the attack being a failure.
UPDATE:
It is getting early confirmation. Now the claims are that the air defense systems were so effective that no major targets were hit by missiles and that the missile attack was for practical purposes fully neutralized. No generating stations, Assad's palace is fine, no significant targets hit.
Over 100 U.S. missiles launched, and no significant targets were hit. Russia is gloating over how well their missiles worked.
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It appears Russia was going to attack, and the U.S. was threatened into stopping the attack
This is probably the case. When this started, it was "going to be sustained, lasting days".
Then a large number of Russian planes took off, and suddenly America stopped attacking after only about an hour.
Here's what that adds up to:
A threat was made that a 7000 MPH hypersonic missile was going to go into the center of the U.S. fleet with a megaton warhead. This is pure speculation, but think about it -How do you go from "we are going to attack in waves, for days" to "an hour into the battle let's call it quits"?
And it is now confirmed that the Russian missile systems knocked out virtually ALL American cruise missiles, resulting in a totally failed missile attack. A few planes dropped bombs and then went home, with nothing returning.
I think America quit because:
1. Russian defenses worked perfect, and America was watching it's missiles go POOF on computer screens before they reached their targets, andThe big proof:
2. Russian war planes took off after the air defenses were very well proven, with confirmed destruction of practically all cruise missiles.
That alone would not stop an American attack, but if any planes were carrying nukes it sure would, if it was proven Russian air defenses would escort those planes to their targets unscathed.
the "days long attack" lasted about an hour.
SOMETHING HAPPENED.
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My initial conclusion last night, based on social media, was (mostly) correct
The only mistake is I thought S-400 missiles were used. Instead, S-200 and less expensive missiles were used.
There is a false claim that only 12 cruise missiles were hit. In fact, 12 cruise missiles were shot down defending ONE base, which equaled 100 percent of what was fired at it.
Sub sonic cruise missiles are obviously useless against Russia's missiles.
I am going to stick with my assessment that something big was going to happen that caused the U.S. to stop the attack.
All the cruise missiles could report their status to the launch site, and the U.S. was sitting there watching them vanish before they reached their targets.
"Reporting back" was early 90's tech, that the cruise missiles had even then. So it would have been ominous to watch them vanish, And then suddenly, Russian planes were in the air, preparing to attack.
That did happen, regardless of whatever any claims are. And within 20 minutes (before they reached their targets) it was suddenly announced that the attack which was supposed to last for days was suddenly over, after only about an hour.
Something big happened, and no one is saying what.
My guess is that Russia made the right threat.
Here is the next day report from RT:
"The majority of rockets fired in Syria by the UK, US, and France were intercepted by Syrian air defense systems, the Russian Defense Ministry said. Russian air defense units were not involved in repelling the attack. The warplanes and vessels of the US and its allies launched over 100 cruise missiles and air-surface missiles on Syrian civil and military facilities, the ministry stated.
"The strikes were conducted by two US ships stationed in the Red Sea, with tactical air support from the Mediterranean and Rockwell B-1 Lancer bombers from Al-Tanf coalition airbase in Syria's Homs province, according to the statement.
"Syrian Al-Dumayr Military Airport, located 40 km north-east from Damascus, was attacked by 12 cruise missiles, the Russian MoD confirmed, adding that all missiles were intercepted by Syrian air defense systems.
"To repel the attack, Damascus deployed Soviet-made surface-to-air missile systems, including S-125 (NATO reporting name: SA-3 Goa), S-200 (SA-5 Gammon), 2K12 Kub (SA-6 Gainful) and Buk.
Russia did not deploy its air defense systems located in Syria to intercept the American, British, and French missiles.
"Earlier, the ministry issued a statement saying that none of the missiles launched by the US and its allies reached the Russian air defense zones that shield facilities in the port city of Tartus and Khmeimim Air Base."
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MY SALIENT COMMENT THAT I HAVE MADE BEFORE:
Gee, if all those trillions did not go missing from the Pentagon on 911, trillions of dollars, which were hit by that "plane" that impacted right where the records were kept maybe old Russian tech would not have had such a high kill rate against American missiles, which would have been a LOT BETTER if those trillions stayed in the budget!The U.S. military can talk all it wants about blowing or totally destroy weak nations away, and talk all about how great it is and how invincible it is, but if Russian tech even hit half the incoming missiles the U.S. military had better start thinking twice, and all the war hawks had better figure out where all that money went!
Syria hit 70 plus percent of America's "nice, new, "smart" missiles with 15+ years outdated Russian crap!
Syria did not even use anything "good, " and it was Syria, not Russia, that repelled the attack. That dear folks equals DOOM. You can't win if a relatively small economy nation who bought old Russian toys was able to repel you with no help from Russia, and partied the next day!
The bottom line is that unlike the gulf war, where America had real superiority, this time around America went against technology that happened to be "enough". All it takes is "enough", it really does not matter if your missiles have 128 bit tech when 16 bit is "enough". The game has changed.
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