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    Default Re: Kerry Cassidy banned from live broadcasting on YouTube

    Quote Posted by ArizonaSilver (here)
    [Avalon] is a community walking in lock step
    Well, I hardly think so!!

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    Default Re: Kerry Cassidy banned from live broadcasting on YouTube

    Excuse me, ArizonaSilver.....When I joined Avalon about a year & a half ago; I joined to LEARN. That meant I didn't do a lot of posting except to ask questions. If you do not feel comfortable here, this may NOT be the place for you. People here do not "argue" just for the sake of arguing....we have a variety of well informed people here & we are polite to each other. That does NOT mean we are in "lock-step"!

    I remember mgrey saying how he just kind of settled in to get the feel of the place before posting much. Have you examined what your purpose was in joining? The Library of material here is immense! One can learn so much on many subjects! Enjoy!!

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    Default Re: Kerry Cassidy banned from live broadcasting on YouTube

    You are right Foxie and Bill, lol, hardly lockstep!!

    Without the mind of the student their bowl is far too full to put any more water into..

    Poor old ArizonaSilver. I find it interesting to see some new people react so negatively to somebodies difference of opinion, to the extent that they alienate themselves before anyone has had the time to even care about their opinion..

    Usually, like in this case, they then try to turn it around and blame everyone else for not seeing things clearly or being in an echo chamber or cult. If only we could see the world as they do, then perhaps we could understand as they do...

    It is a fallacy. We all have lived through the same times together, different personal experiences have shaped our understanding of those same events, so we see things differently, plain and simple. The same event can be seen from many sides and just as many different conclusions can be drawn.

    When one is inflexible to others opposing viewpoints, the law of equal and opposite reaction will always occur, as night follows day..

    I wish ArizonaSilver the best of luck on his or her path to humble wholeness... N
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    Default Re: Kerry Cassidy banned from live broadcasting on YouTube

    Quote Posted by Nasu (here)
    You are right Foxie and Bill, lol, hardly lockstep!!

    Without the mind of the student their bowl is far too full to put any more water into..

    Poor old ArizonaSilver. I find it interesting to see some new people react so negatively to somebodies difference of opinion, to the extent that they alienate themselves before anyone has had the time to even care about their opinion..

    Usually, like in this case, they then try to turn it around and blame everyone else for not seeing things clearly or being in an echo chamber or cult. If only we could see the world as they do, then perhaps we could understand as they do...

    It is a fallacy. We all have lived through the same times together, different personal experiences have shaped our understanding of those same events, so we see things differently, plain and simple. The same event can be seen from many sides and just as many different conclusions can be drawn.

    When one is inflexible to others opposing viewpoints, the law of equal and opposite reaction will always occur, as night follows day..

    I wish ArizonaSilver the best of luck on her path to humble wholeness... N
    I agree with you Nasu.

    However to the defense of all Eastern Europeans, their ways of doing is often argumentative to start with, and they relax later on. To them, I found, intelligence needs argumentation, like critical thinking, but presented in an argumentative manner. This is a proof, for them, of intelligence and involvment.

    They will always test you as well - do you truly know what you are talking about. I have seen Eastern Europeans talking to me in Spanish in an elevator because I had told them I had lived in Mexico at an early age (and their Spanish was pitiful, but when they saw I could answer, they gained respect - I was not liying nor exagerating).

    Turks (half eastern Europeans mentality, half Asian), would inflate the truth quite a lot and deflate problems quite a lot. You would not believe how often I have been told to put much more than the strict reality (as Canadians would do) because they will cut half of it anyhow. And I ended up seeing the truth in this, so I could not promote projects being Canadian, but once I started doing like the Turks, everything developed nicely. And yes, they would also test me, like Eastern Europeans, with specialised knowledge quite deficient at times (I was the specialist, not them lolllll).

    Western Europeans (maybe not truly the French) and Americans and Canadians are not that way at all, on the contrary, arguments always have to be measured and presented in a layed back manner (when seen from a latin or eastern European point of view, it is layed back).

    I have seen many members throughout time being chased away from Avalon very British/American forum because of lack of understanding for the cultural differences and ways to present/analyse that are different, lack of understanding from forum members as well as from members from other cultures. I remember recuperating a Russian member who was argumentative through pms explaining him the Anglo Saxon ways of argmenting and presenting, with the cultural biais that it entails. Once he understood, he took the right approach.

    I do think that ArizonaSilver felt in that Eastern European category, not understanding the Anglo Saxon mentality and culture. He mistook it for group think. Which is not that at all.

    I think that next time around, a little pm on Avalon being British/American in its approach and an explanation on the British/American ways or writing, argumenting, presenting, applied to the forum, would help quite a lot for those cultures (in fact, for anyone coming from non Anglo Saxon cultures - French Canadian being North Americans do not need to be told, they already react like North Americans).

    Sorry for the side track, back to topic.
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    Default Re: Kerry Cassidy banned from live broadcasting on YouTube

    Ahhhhh.....Differences in cultures! Good point!

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    Default Re: Kerry Cassidy banned from live broadcasting on YouTube

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Quote Posted by ArizonaSilver (here)
    She proclaims that her free speech and rights are being abused. But although I have not researched YOUTUBE ownership, I assume it is a private company. People seem to often act as if they have a right to use a private company's platform regardless of what they say as if it is guaranteed in the Constitution. A private company is allowing the public to post videos, making money supposedly from advertisements. But there is no government guaranteed "right" to do so.

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    There is no law granting YOUTUBE the only right to produce a platform for the public to post videos. Any other company that thinks they could make a profit by doing so has every legal right to do so. Therefore, YOUTUBE is not a monopoly whatsoever.
    My understanding: A monopoly is when a private company has all or about all the market in a given domain of expertise or sales and by its sheer market power and shares is in fact stopping any potential worthwhile competition from taking hold in the same market. And this is irrelevant regarding constitutional rights or regarding privacy rights of enterprises.

    A monopoly is regarding market shares and possibilites to have competition or not in the given market. Google and Youtubes are definitely monopolies.

    Quote The Oxford dictionary definition:


    monopoly

    noun (Plural monopolies)

    1The exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service.

    ‘the state's monopoly of radio and television broadcasting’

    More example sentences

    1.1 A company or group having exclusive control over a commodity or service.

    ‘passenger services were largely in the hands of state-owned monopolies’

    ‘France's electricity monopoly, EDF’
    More example sentences

    1.2 A commodity or service in the exclusive control of a company or group.

    ‘electricity, gas, and water were considered to be natural monopolies’

    More example sentences


    1.3[usually with negative] The exclusive possession, control, or exercise of something.

    ‘men don't have a monopoly on unrequited love’
    Therefore, in the present market state, internationally and nationally (within every country), Youtube is a monopoly. Google as well on some aspects. To stop being a monopoly, it would have to be broken up as the Bell company was in the 1990's to give a chance to other companies to take hold on the market.
    When Bell was broken up it created many smaller companies. In the last few decades, due to the government allowing mergers and acquisitions that are totally at odds with the Federal Combines Act, these smaller companies have been recombining like a slime mould, forming oligopolies. Many of the mega corporations we loathe are oligopolies, so not subject to govt restrictions on monopolies.

    The thing about oligopolies though, is they can certainly function like monopolies. I believe Alphabet, formerly Google owns YouTube?

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    Default Re: Kerry Cassidy banned from live broadcasting on YouTube

    Monopolies only get broken up when antagonistic people are in power. If the administration is favorable to a monopoly then it simply won't be broken up. It's become purely political.

    So one administration breaks up Bell Communications, and later administrations allow it to recombine. One faction begins to persecute Microsoft for monopolistic behavior, another shuts the legal action down. Same thing happened already with Google. Europe has tried to put restraints on some of these tech giants, and failed.

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    Default Re: Kerry Cassidy banned from live broadcasting on YouTube

    Many in the alternative community are losing significant amounts of revenue and income. As with many business scenarios it begins with something of a Wild West approach to new technologies which find key leaders either bought out or crushed. These amalgamation happened to everything from banks, doctors, universities, radio and tv stations, cable providers to political parties.

    Sell out or die.....

    It would likely be better if they continued to use disruptive technologies and platforms such as Steemit and others to get their message out. GAIMTV is not a very good option considering it's control mechanisms and ownership.

    I would very much like to have an extra $300/month to be able to be a subscriber to many podcasters, researchers and interviewers....just not feasible for everyone.

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    Quote Posted by ArizonaSilver (here)
    I cannot judge Kerry's case since I haven't researched it, but the nation is very divided now, and to claim that events where people died were all fake is cruel if not dangerous. I am not justifying YOUTUBE policies but I do not think it is part of some evil nefarious government plot.
    Sure, nothing nefarious at all about shutting down every channel that questions the official narrative. Move along, nothing to see here.

    Quote I confess I was referring to the "False Flag" community as a whole, such as the people who go to Sandy Hook and taunt the parents of the dead kids, saying that they are liars and paid crisis actors.
    I question your ability to think critically. Lumping everyone who believes certain events are false flags into a "community as a whole" who go taunt "parents" of "the dead kids" is a sweeping generalization that does not even consider that those that supposedly do the taunting are agents provocateurs or are so few that they are, by definition, not part of any "community as a whole."

    Quote there seems to be a general group-think here that I was not aware of. People seem to pretty much agree on everything.
    Seems like you don't research much of anything before making sweeping generalizations. Perhaps this isn't the best place for you. Buh-bye indeed.

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    Quote Posted by ArizonaSilver (here)
    I worked for the Bell System in California for 30 years. Due to a law suit by MCI (now long gone - a company whose strategy was to sue everyone else in the field until they bled dry. MCI truly was an unethical pirate ship of a company and the entire telecommunications industry rejoiced when MCI went down) in the early 80's, the Bell System was split up into individual regional companies.
    I suspect the real reason many at AT&T didn't like MCI is because they were able to expand and compete for customers along with the big incumbents.

    Quote Posted by ArizonaSilver (here)
    Should we break up Facebook into several smaller separate communication platforms? Facebook, with all its many faults and data sharing, works fantastic for people who simply wish to share pictures of their lunch (groan) or 10,000 selfies, all alike.
    That's a straw man, there are plenty of much better alternatives to Faecesbook for the not-so-lazy. Facebook are also holding ransoms on information right now. Facebook is not free, Facebook is costing society dearly.

    In the UK if you have a limited company for any reason such as by being a contractor Facebook will slurp it off the Companies House database and put up a holding page for you complete with map and directions to its location. They will also put the business on the crowdsourced verify list thereby bringing it to the attention of many Faecesbook users.

    If you want them to take it down you will have to "verify yourself" by sending them copies of official documents. So they will hold an unauthorised page whilst demanding more data from you as a ransom. A heinous organisation run by a heinous reprobate. We have all those bottom-feeders who sustain it to thank.

    Quote Bill, there seems to be a general group-think here that I was not aware of. People seem to pretty much agree on everything. So when I present my views, Paul and others think I am being adamant. I do not accept the agreed upon meme or paradigm. I accept that I am the red nosed reindeer in this community. I honestly don't want to disturb the group hug in any way. So I refrain from posting again except in response to someone who has to have the last word and has to use wild conspiracy theory memes to do so. I assumed this was an open minded community but so far it is a community walking in lock step to a group of assumptions about reality that I don't share. But as I said in my application, I came here to post a well-meaning tribute to Art Bell because I thought he deserved it. Perhaps having done so, I should bow politely and leave now. Buh bye.
    I strongly disagree. You label those that present an alternative viewpoint as conspiracy-wielding loons, when if you actually sit down and read and inwardly digest the material that's on offer here you will find that far from being conspiracies, they are very much evidence-based. If you only talk to people whom you think agree with you, you might just as well stick your head way down between your legs and whistle to your self.
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    I’ve grown tired of Kerry asking for money on Facebook. Not long ago she was asking for $$$ to pay her taxes and a couple weeks later she’s traveling the globe. Not to mention, the whole narrative of “the man is trying bring me down because of the information I’m putting out there for the world to see/hear,” has gotten old, too. Just sayin’.

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