L.A. Marzulli claims disclosure is imminent

[mojo]

Could he be right?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HrWsEg8VDUk

[Nasu]

Thanks for posting this. He seems quite sure of himself. For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, disclosure happened sometime in the late sixties to early seventies, the distractions and white noise surrounding it has been deafening ever since. Only when it furthers the ambitions of those in power will disclosure ever come about. When it does be sure that it will be crafted and molded to suit those in power first and foremost, it will be choreographed to maximize their position and future goals, not for the betterment of you or me or mankind. Imo.... N

[Daozen]

If advanced civilizations walked among us, the very last people they would ever contact would be the fake white-hat/latest intel/lightworker circuit. IMO, the benevolent ones would work in tech, farming, micro-finance and charities.

Like John Lear says, disclosure is a personal process that happens one person at a time. The ufology circus has been claiming imminent disclosure since at least 2008. Suggest people rip out the hopium drip from their arms.

[indigopete]

I find it perplexing that, with 8.7 Million species on earth, people are still looking elsewhere for the presence of "aliens". Where exactly do folks think those 8.7 million distinct lifeforms are sourced if not from universal origins ?

Observers that attribute interstellar origins to zappy flying discs with flashing lights have been watching too much Start Trek.

If a "disclosure" announcement is ever made it will be for political purposes only. The "aliens" are us and we didn't need any over-powered washing machine drums to get here.

[Joe Akulis]

Posted by indigopete (here)
I find it perplexing that, with 8.7 Million species on earth, people are still looking elsewhere for the presence of "aliens". Where exactly do folks think those 8.7 million distinct lifeforms are sourced if not from universal origins ?

Observers that attribute interstellar origins to zappy flying discs with flashing lights have been watching too much Start Trek.

If a "disclosure" announcement is ever made it will be for political purposes only. The "aliens" are us and we didn't need any over-powered washing machine drums to get here.

Couldn't agree more. :- )

[Foxie Loxie]

For anyone who has been on Avalon for any length of time, we already KNOW "they" have been among us for quite some time!

[justntime2learn]

Love it Foxie

And even the sea:

Scientists declare that octopuses are basically aliens
BY MEREDITH PLACKO 08.14.2015



Octopuses are aliens — or, at least, so vastly different in their genetic makeup that they might as well be considered out of this world. Scientists recently sequenced the first genome in the Octopus Genome Project, a huge undertaking to map out the entire DNA structure of the complex cephalopod. What they found was simply incredible.

"Researchers at the University of Chicago took on this project and chose the California two-spot octopus for their subject. Then, they learned that a group at the Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology in Japan was working to break down the genome as well. So the two combined forces, and together, unlocked many of the mysteries surrounding the octopus. The results were recently published in the science journal, Nature.



"Octopuses have 33,000 genes, roughly 10,000 more than a human. This alone sets it apart from any other invertebrate in the world. They are also uncannily clever, with the ability to open jars, solve puzzles, and even use tools. It’s no wonder that some might think this creature is from another planet. In uncovering the sequence, scientists found that octopuses have a similar set of genes to those found in humans, that make up a neural network in their brains, which accounts for their quick ability to adapt and learn. We also share a large brain, closed circulatory system, and eyes with an iris, retina, and lens. All of these independently developed in another species vastly different from our own mammal origins.

Another focus of the study was looking at the octopus’ ability to camouflage itself in the blink of an eye. Now, with the sequence coded out, researchers can study exactly how the octopus can change its skin within milliseconds. If unraveled, this could lead to major breakthroughs both in neuroscience and engineering, in terms of creating garments and structures that could have instant camouflage ability.

A huge discovery was the ability of the octopus to improve on its own genetic code. This is common in humans and other animals, but the ability at which the octopus can edit its own RNA is pretty wild — they are able to adapt their nerves in order to withstand the extreme cold of the deep ocean. The scientists also took a long look at the genes that make up the octopus’ suckers. It was discovered that part of the sucker function allowed for the animal to taste, in addition to catching its dinner.

There’s still a lot to uncover from this project. Scientists have only just begun the process of breaking down the genome. The map is laid out now, and it will be only a matter of time until researchers chart the unknown territory of the octopus.

Link: https://www.geek.com/news/scientists...liens-1631142/

[Wind]

If I got a dollar every time I saw the headline "disclosure is imminent", I would be a millionaire by now.

[enigma3]

We haven't even begun to get real disclosure yet. Where is most of the $21 Trillion going? Was Ben Rich right when he said we could travel to the stars and beyond? Was Ronald Reagan right when he said in the 80's that we could transport 300 people at one time into space? Are there colonies on Mars and Venus? How about the moon? Why did we nuke a crater on the far side of the moon with a cube like structure in it? What is going on in Antarctica? Can we use worm holes? Has NASA ever told us one truthful statement? Nope. Hasn't started yet.

I think those who control the alternative physics that came from Tesla will not give it up without a fight.

[Mark]

Posted by indigopete (here)
If a "disclosure" announcement is ever made it will be for political purposes only. The "aliens" are us and we didn't need any over-powered washing machine drums to get here.

Cosign in entirety. Sure, there are craft zipping through the atmosphere, in and out of the oceans, in near-earth orbit and beyond. Evidence suggests that even if many of those craft are extraterrestrial, many of them are us, too. At this point, and with so much diversity across, under and above the face of the earth, if there is "alien" DNA to be found, because it is present in all families of humanity and beyond, it would merely be identified as human DNA! If as many civilizations have been here and left traces of themselves in the varied hominid and sapien sapien families as is posited by some, then we could stand humans right next to some obviously alien species and test them both and find the same evidence that they are related. That they are human. That all alien life is HUMAN LIFE. That all sentient, conscious and self-aware species comprise the whole in individual part, interconnected in a galactic and multiversal web of causality and creation.

Or something like that.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by mojo (here)
Could he be right?

Nothing new here: this is the Washington Post material from 18 Dec 2017 that's been extensively discussed and dissected many times over. Strangely, Marzulli seems to have only just noticed it all.

[Ricker]

Is seems to me like they're using MSM to hand feed the fear porn industry. I thought it was funny how the pilot was ready to go into further detail then suddenly cut off.

[Daozen]

What if there was an episode of the True-man show where Truman had got into conspiracies...? The controllers didn't want him discovering his true power, so they plastered a lot of ufology hype on the television to keep him distracted. Now what if there were billions of Trumans, and billions of actors? And what if some of the actors secretly rebelled against their lunar controllers, and set up a "Free Truman Now" society?
What if there was an alternate ending to They Live, where they all sat down, smoked some Thai grass, and said "Hey, we can work this out"

[DNA]

Posted by mojo (here)
Could he be right?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HrWsEg8VDUk

If it happens keep an even keeled stance people. Any narrative given will be manipulated and designed for an effect, if there is any truth given it will be placed within the parameters of lies and deceit.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Nothing new here: this is the Washington Post material from 18 Dec 2017 that's been extensively discussed and dissected many times over. Strangely, Marzulli seems to have only just noticed it all.

Washington Post was revealed to have at least one $600 million CIA contract, which is a hefty chunk of money for a news outlet, so whatever they publish has been sanctioned or allowed on some level by the Mockingbird types.

The Wikileaks emails show Hillary's circle working with people like Tom Delonge and Edgar Mitchell on their version of "disclosure." Something was most definitely in the works and it was revealed in those leaks, though I don't think any of us have put together the whole picture of whatever they were planning.

I have a feeling what's going on in Antarctica is going to be central to whatever we learn, though. We'll "suddenly" find debatable evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence in the historical record first I bet, since it gives mentally fragile people some flexibility and distance to consider new ideas without feeling immediately threatened by them. Major religions will have major problems.

[aoibhghaire]

I disagree with L.A. Marzulli claims Disclosure is imminent, because you have to understand how our society functions. This is a lot more complex and requires the perplexity of ethics and values to provide a Disclosure event.

It relies on a change in human nature with no prospect being transformed into political action. For the practical decision maker it is empty rhetoric. We have to try to solve our problems with the human nature we’ve got.

This perplexity-how to decide what is in the interest of society when all you know is what is in the interest of a sample of individuals within different governments, military and corporations worldwide. This controlled disclosure leaves politicians in the weaker position and isn’t the only problem the politician has to solve.

Not only do a multitude of rational individual preferences sometimes combine to form an irrational social preference; sometimes the individual preferences themselves are not rational, at least in the sense that decision-theorists use the word.

If people behaved rationally in this sense, one would expect the public perception of the existence of a UFO reality. But this isn’t the case at present. For the decision-maker, especially the politician, a risk is worth taking (or protection against a risk is not worth taking) if people are no longer apprehensive about it. The politician has to discover what people are thinking - i.e., what public opinion is - and whether public opinion (what is desired) coincides with what he/she thinks is the public interest (what is desirable). Another difficulty is that we cannot reliably predict future events of a post Disclosure.

Prophecy is one of man’s oldest enthusiasms. In ancient times there were soothsayers and oracles; there still are, it is only the techniques that have changed; instead of using the flight of birds or the entrails of animals we now use scenario-casting by computers and technology assessment; but the track record of forecasts is as dismal as ever it was.

Besides these difficulties there’s a down-to-earth psychological difficulty. Even if we were to persuade ourselves that we knew what our duty to posterity was, John Passmore, in an illuminating book called ‘Mads Responsibility for Nate’, draws a conclusion which - although he doesn’t make the point himself - is consistent with the biological hypothesis of kin-altruism. He makes two propositions. One is that we should make such sacrifices as we are prepared to make in ways that are likely to be most effective. Help given to the underprivileged now, today, to people now living, is likely to be more effective than help left in our wills, so to speak, for posterity, who may not want it, or may want something different which we haven’t thought of.

Henry Sidgwick took this view over a century ago when he wrote that the interests of posterity must concern a Utilitarian, “except in so far as the effect of his actions on posterity and even the existence of the human beings to be affected must necessarily be more uncertain.”

Passmore’s other proposition is that the most practical way to do one’s duty to posterity is to be prepared to make sacrifices literally for love: love of one’s children and grandchildren, and in general, love of one’s friends who will live on into the next century. To do this (Passmore says) is to start “a chain of love and concern running throughout the remote future.”

The difficulty is that a political decision is an adaptation to contemporary circumstances. When circumstances change - and they change all the time —the decisions become obsolete. So long range planning post Disclosure, far from being desirable, may, if it is too rigid, lead the social system into dangerous dead ends. It simply isn’t possible to get enough information to plan with confidence for long-term goals. So the only safe planning policy is to maximize the number of options open to society, and to have machinery for a rapid response to contemporary circumstances.

• See Avalon Forum, Ufology, Extraterrestrial Contact ‘One person's take on a post disclosure world’. Post #2 &#3

The making of political decisions then becomes a succession of campaigns to reach short-term mini-goals that lie in the general direction of some long-term aspirations. There are grounds for cautious optimism here,
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We are seeking guidance for politicians who have to make decisions about the Disclosure. We have had hearings (PRG), Paradigm Research Group and Washington Press Club Disclosure meetings.

Are we any closer to finding guidance? (In parentheses let me recall to you that I use the word ‘politician’ in its dictionary sense, to mean anyone engaged in the ‘science and art of government’, in a pluralistic society like our own.)

We are seeking guidance for politicians who have to make decisions about the ‘Disclosure’. PRG is a good example for foraging ahead in this goal but still it is indirect in its approach within the political arena.

First, let us dispose of a comparatively simple case. If you ask human needs in order of priority, then survival, freedom from pain, and safeguard of property come very high on the list. Self-interest and public interest generally coincide over these needs and take precedence over the claims of posterity and of nature. So a politician has no great difficulty in deciding where he/she stands for example, over hazards in the environment which demonstrably put at risk the lives, health, or property of his constituents. He/she and his/her constituents may have to be jolted by the mass media into recognizing the fact or seriousness of the hazards.

This is the simple case: the protection of citizens against real or imagined hazards from the environment. It is the counter-case which is difficult: the protection of the environment against hazards from the citizens. This is where an environmental ethic might prove useful.

In the case of UFO reality and the public ground swell escalating disclosure of its existence may eventually supersede governments, military, corporation policies. Its encouraging that MSM little by little are making known the possibilities of the UFO reality but still a long way to go.

Of two things the politician can be sure: there will be a conflict of values, and the evidence alone will not be sufficient to resolve the conflict — indeed there will often be a conflict of evidence as well as of values. It is the politician himself/herself who has to find a solution to these conflicts.
Part of his/her task is to fit the information into a framework of obstinate political verities. Let’s consider two of them.

Between the apathetic and unawaken majority and the embedded minorities at each extreme there are persons who, at the start, incline towards one view (e.g., in favor of Disclosure) or the opposite view (e.g., against it). But their minds are open to fresh information: they will consider arguments for and against; they are willing to listen and to take some trouble to learn; they are open to conversion. These are the reasonable people whose opinions matter. If, after they have heard the evidence, a consensus emerges among these reasonable people, this is as good a measure of what is desired by these members of the public who have earned a right to an opinion as the politician is likely to get. The apathetic majority, if they emerge from their indifference at all, will be inclined to accept the assurances of those who have actively participated in the discussions.

Of course this alone doesn’t give the politician a full statement of the public interest, but only raw data which assist him/her to decide what is desirable in the public interest.

So an imminent Disclosure IMO is not realistic at this time.

References:

C. Freeman and M. Jahoda, eds., World Futures: The Great Debate (London: London: Duckworth, 1974.
H. Sidgwick, The Methods of Ethics, 7th ed. (London: Macmillan, 1907),
Martin Robertson, 1978, p. 355.p. 414.

[DNA]

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
Washington Post was revealed to have at least one $600 million CIA contract, which is a hefty chunk of money for a news outlet, so whatever they publish has been sanctioned or allowed on some level by the Mockingbird types.

Any links for that? That is a juicy tidbit.

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
The Wikileaks emails show Hillary's circle working with people like Tom Delonge and Edgar Mitchell on their version of "disclosure." Something was most definitely in the works and it was revealed in those leaks, though I don't think any of us have put together the whole picture of whatever they were planning.

Tom Delonge is a "tool" and he seems to be one wielded by powers I do not trust at all.
Check out his co-author Peter Levenda and Peter's book topics. The books read like a primer for Bohemian Grove/Maria Abramovic rituals and such.
Tom Delonge is quick to admit his "entry" as far as his contacts in the Pentagon and such were ushered in by John Podesta. Does it get any more gross or questionable? No it doesn't.

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
I have a feeling what's going on in Antarctica is going to be central to whatever we learn, though. We'll "suddenly" find debatable evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence in the historical record first I bet, since it gives mentally fragile people some flexibility and distance to consider new ideas without feeling immediately threatened by them. Major religions will have major problems.

Indeed! I agree.
Beware that this disclosure comes with a new religion attached to it.
Tom Delonge's verbage seems to hint at such.

[we-R-one]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
Washington Post was revealed to have at least one $600 million CIA contract, which is a hefty chunk of money for a news outlet, so whatever they publish has been sanctioned or allowed on some level by the Mockingbird types.

Any links for that? That is a juicy tidbit.

If I had to guess, it's tied to Amazon as Jeff Bezos now owns Washington Post and isn't it Amazon who has the $600 million dollar CIA contract? That might give you a lead to check out. I'd check it myself, just don't have the time, maybe later.

[Rhah]

I really don't get why we're still so hung up on receiving government disclosure on alien life.

There is little to no indication that we, the people, are regaining our sovereignty, nor that the establishment - through their mainstream media - is operating for our benefit by reporting truths that will empower us and free us. Quite the contrary, in fact. As we all know.

So if they do decide to "disclose" the presence or existence of alien life, we know that it will not be truthful information, and will therefore not benefit us. All it will give us is another clear indication that their fake alien invasion scenario (or a similar agenda) has progressed yet another step. And because this will not lead to the freedom of humanity, but to ever more control, chaos and suffering, government disclosure is not something to look forward to, but to dread.

All you're saying when you're hoping for government disclosure, is that you still need government to dictate truth for you. While you already know the truth.

And don't expect or hope that "official" disclosure will finally bring the masses into our camp, because they'll make absolutely sure that it won't. And if it does make believers out of them, then that only shows that they still need government to guide their lives, rendering them utterly helpless and useless.

[justntime2learn]

Posted by Rhah (here)
I really don't get why we're still so hung up on receiving government disclosure on alien life.

There is little to no indication that we, the people, are regaining our sovereignty, nor that the establishment - through their mainstream media - is operating for our benefit by reporting truths that will empower us and free us. Quite the contrary, in fact. As we all know.

So if they do decide to "disclose" the presence or existence of alien life, we know that it will not be truthful information, and will therefore not benefit us. All it will give us is another clear indication that their fake alien invasion scenario (or a similar agenda) has progressed yet another step. And because this will not lead to the freedom of humanity, but to ever more control, chaos and suffering, government disclosure is not something to look forward to, but to dread.

All you're saying when you're hoping for government disclosure, is that you still need government to dictate truth for you. While you already know the truth.

And don't expect or hope that "official" disclosure will finally bring the masses into our camp, because they'll make absolutely sure that it won't. And if it does make believers out of them, then that only shows that they still need government to guide their lives, rendering them utterly helpless and useless.

Agreed!

Disclosure has come in many forms, so now it becomes a personal choice.

J