Is the 'Space Industry' an excuse to rob unlimited money from the public?

[Daozen]

The US gov have so far spent 1-2 trillion of public money for the War on Terror. (War on Terra?) Nice work if you can get it.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror#Costs

A March 2011 Congressional report[267] estimated spending related to the war through the fiscal year 2011 at $1.2 trillion, and that spending through 2021 assuming a reduction to 45,000 troops would be $1.8 trillion. A June 2011 academic report[267] covering additional areas of spending related to the war estimated it through 2011 at $2.7 trillion, and long-term spending at $5.4 trillion including interest.[note 4]

According to the Soufan Group in July 2015, the United States government spends $9.4 million per day in operations against ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

Now that people are bored of the War on Terror, the Military Industrial Complex needs a new distraction. A very expensive one. I have no figures to hand, but I guess gubmints plan to spend billlions, or trillions of public money on this Brave New Era.




Total Recall

If you're going to go to space, will the conditions be any better than on Earth? Two major proponents of the 'Space Industry' are Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk.

Conditions for workers in Amazon are not good:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/16/1...athroom-breaks

http://observer.com/2018/04/amazon-b...ng-conditions/

Space X is known for underpaying and overworking:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/15/elon...-must-pay.html

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ions-elon-musk

https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comm...ronment_toxic/

What makes people think that working conditions would be any better on "Mars"? A lot of Space talk is about mining. Miners don't have good working conditions. If you think you'll get a cushy desk job cos you're into UFOlogy, guess again.




Have we ever left Earth?

The moon landings discrepancies are well known. ISS interior footage is likely faked with green screens, wires, and metric tons of hair gel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSbznWiJdcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PST810eICoY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJhL7y0ahUE

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird...lmed-in-studio






Health in Space

Do the pioneers in the 'Space Industry' have the cure to cancer, AIDS, and heart disease? If so, why aren't they releasing it now? Why is it left to sites like Project Avalon and Earth Clinic to release cutting edge cures? Would health conditions be any better in 'space', once you have to add muscle wasting to your current list of diseases?

The Emperors has no clothes. Wait, there is no Emperor. Wait, the Emperor is *you*.

The alt media steering commitee (AMSTEC) are trying to enforce cohesion on the space industry as a distraction. No one's getting off this rock, least of all in a tin can to Mars.

Schpoink!

[Hym]

Yes it is. It's costly convincing Flintstone era consumers that the Jetsons was just a cartoon.

[Daozen]

Posted by Hym (here)
Yes it is. It's costly convincing Flintstone era consumers that the Jetsons was just a cartoon.

hahaha. I read your sentence 10 times and I don't 100% understand what you're getting at, but I sense you're right.

[yelik]

If you can use public money to fund the secret space program, deep underground bases, constant wars and terror then why use your own!

[Baby Steps]

1. 'We need to take German ballistic missiles & their designers and build a civilian rocket programme from them!'

TRANSLATION: We need to take public tax money , pretend it is for space exploration so that we have the resources to develop our own ballistic missiles.

2. 'Russia is winning the space race! With Sputnik there is potential Russian primacy in communications tech!'

TRANSLATION: We need to be able to place satellites reliably so that we can place nukes in orbit

3. ' we need to put a man on the moon before Russia!'

TRANSLATION: We want to dominate the moon in case it proves to be a strategic asset, for a space base including Nukes

4. 'We are not going back to the moon, it is not a technological priority!'

TRANSLATION: Something is stopping us from filling near space with Nukes

5. 'We need to continue putting resources into space travel, and bring the private sector in, to retain our current dominance'

TRANSLATION: We need tax dollars for covert space propulsion programmes, so we need a cover story.

6. 'Space is the war theatre of the future & it is essential that resources are available to create a preeminent position!'

TRANSLATION: The Military Industrial complex requires a new income stream. The idea of demilitarisation of space is a threat to this.

[Foxie Loxie]

Just ask David Adair, "America's Fall From Space", about the huge amount of waste he is aware of!!

[Carmody]

Life in space will quickly turn to the spiritual.

it will also turn toward the regimented.

The situation is rather jail-like, actually.

Recall, or note:

Space is life inside a pressurized tin can.

Open spaces and nature will not exist unless fabricated in small doses. And larger ones, where the box aspect cannot be easily seen by the body's senses, will take many decades to emerge.

the short term 'incarceration of humans in space' indicates major changes in social, cultural and (as an adjunct) gene expression.

Take an entire society and culture and put it inside a cave complex, with no outside aspects at all. Imagine the pressured levels of change for the given group.

In 50 years it might be darned near unrecognizable.

The next point is that the people in space will be, almost to a person... at the phd level or higher. There will be no idiots in space.

University campus at a minimum. More like a wide ranging grad club. Every person there will be mentally fast and multi-talented, multi-faceted.

If a mars settlement takes place, it will be the same. Your expectations of what may go on, will very likely be in error as the shift level is so high and the complex outcomes are near unpredictable.

Ie, a million phd's as a culture, confined in a tin can, with no outside....on mars.

This is a paradigm shift that we've not seen before. All human dross* will be completely left behind and in it's place will...be...what, exactly?

I mean, if you don't have a phd or an iq of 120 plus, you probably won't be on mars. There will be others as it opens up to habitation, but the vastly predominant type, at a level that humanity has never seen, will be highly intelligent. There's just no getting around this. Space is far too complex and difficult for it to be any other way. A lack of self awareness is a thing that cannot be abided by or dealt with. It's simply not happening.

Then you take that group, put them in Plato's space cave, forever.... turn on the view of the heavens, which, as a pair... will underwrite every breath, second, and thought, in total conscious and unconscious dominance...and..and...over time...the result will be... ? ?

Has anyone really thought this through? Martians will practically be alien to earth bound humans in about 30-40 years, maybe. and vice versa.


*I'm being negative in the casting and naming, so that people get the point clearly... and don't sidestep it in their noggins when contemplating the question and potentials.