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    And our world is a kind of reincarnation of Atlantis.
    Or to be more precise, United States is the reincarnation of Atlantis in the same way as Rome was. Great empires and things went terribly wrong. Man's greed and lust for power was always the pathway towards destruction. I see not much difference now.
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    Default Re: World-Wide City Population Changes by End of 2019

    Hi wnlight
    Hope you don't mind if I post your future world map (2019)...
    If you do, then let me know & I will delete...

    The World Map In 2019
    • The blue areas are land lost below the sea for the foreseeable future.
    • The green areas represent new land risen from the sea.
    • Red rectangles in the world map enclose areas of greater detail.
    (Click on Map goes to website)




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    Maybe the "lost" cities of India will rise again!

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    Default Re: World-Wide City Population Changes by End of 2019

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    [...]
    And wnlight, where is Atlantis on your map? Cayce said it would rise; it has long been prophesied to return, and a part of me has always been slightly hung up on that fantasy....
    The trouble with "visions" and their descriptions resides in these "visions" using a mix of symbols in communicating a concept.

    I read somewhere that considering "Atlantis" as a piece of land is about the same as considering the "British Empire" or the UN as a vast continent... where a last standing fortress for an idea/belief could be considered an "island"... you know... like CNN or the BBC...

    Accordingly, Cayce mentioning a new rise of Atlantis could merely mean that people from that era are now re-incarnating and pursuing their business of creating automatons and slaves for their pleasure... along with their war technology.

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    I firmly believe in Plato's ancient description. I think it was faithfully recorded, and passed down orally through the generations.
    [...]
    Same with Plato who was a master of re-engineering mythical civilizations from scraps... see this post (<---).

    Hence my questions to wnlight:

    Is the "water" submerging these blue areas:
    • sea water?
    • rain water as in continual downpours and floods?
    • solid water (ice/snow)
    • inhabitants in the grip of an emotional wave/belief/mind switch?
    Because I have a hard time considering a mechanism for Brittany + Normandy going under since they are basically bedrock of a "shield" type.
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    Ahaaaa! We ARE rising!!!

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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Accordingly, Cayce mentioning a new rise of Atlantis could merely mean that people from that era are now re-incarnating and pursuing their business of creating automatons and slaves for their pleasure... along with their war technology.
    As a metaphor, I definitely agree with it. But accordingly, Cayce was also quite literal, exclaiming many physical changes to come:

    Quote "Poseidia will be among the first portions of Atlantis to rise again - expect it in '68 and '69..."
    And that was precisely when the Bimini Road was discovered.

    He also went on to say:

    Quote "As to the physical changes again, the land will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America..."
    Personally I do believe that these or some drastic Earth changes will come about, sooner or later. Whether Atlantis itself, or part of it, actually rises I have to be doubtful. We can scarcely conceive of it. It would be a monumental event, [with emphasis on the mental!]

    @wnlight:

    Am I right in assuming that the blue areas on your map (where land is lost), is a subsidence of land due to geologic action? That is quite different from sea-levels rising – or tsunami events, because those waters recede eventually. This is what I theorize, and it would explain why some low-lying coastal areas look unaffected here. Perhaps a second map is in order, only to depict the coastal areas that will suffer inundations, do not sink, and eventually recover.

    For example, I was looking at Florida, particularly Tampa, where I was living for a time in the 90s. The population on the list has been reduced to zero, yet on the map, it looks untouched (Miami on the other hand is gone). So I'm thinking that it does not sink per se, but a tsunami or flood washes it away, but there is no loss of land - it returns to normal when the waters retreat. Is this correct? Cheers
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    Tel Aviv Israel 2,300,000 0 0.0% vs Jerusalem Israel 760,000 750,000 98.7%
    That's a distance of approx. 40 miles/70 Km ... and makes a difference between 0% and almost 100 % !
    I think that Jerusalem is a little higher than Tel Aviv. But I was still surprised by the numbers myself. I had expected Jerusalem to sink below the sea along with most of Israel, Lebanon and parts of Syria. I did double and triple check.
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    [...]
    But the real cause is an unsettled Earth due to core heating.
    Assuming this as the premise; it goes against the accepted general idea of a slow cooling of planets from the time of their formation...
    I am looking at possible core heating of the Earth via cosmic rays. (BTW, I worked at a cosmic ray generator named Fermilab.)
    I do not have the whole picture yet.
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    Quote Posted by Michelle Marie (here)
    What would you tell your family, if anything, if they had homes and a full life where they are living and it's one of the annihilation zones?
    MM
    I tell them. They tolerate me and then do what they wish. But none of them now live near a coastline.
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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    And wnlight, where is Atlantis on your map? Cayce said it would rise; it has long been prophesied to return, and a part of me has always been slightly hung up on that fantasy.
    I know what you mean. I have looked for Atlantis for years. It WAS once a real place. Perhaps Atlantis has risen in a symbolic way - for all of its occurrence in literature, cinema, and commerce.

    But it sure looks like MU (or Lemuria) is rising again. I have felt a strange affinity for Hawaii since living there in the 1970's.
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    This thread is very synchronistic to the conversations that I have been having with Fairy Friend. She is on sabbatical but we talk frequently. We discuss the Earth Changes energies that we feel. Our last conversation 2 weeks ago was about how her attention/the energies had really been drawn to what is going on with Earth changes. We were noticing the deep cracks appearing in Eastern Africa. We also talked about the small earthquake in Menonomee Michigan and the deep cracks that appeared there as well (2010) Eastern Africa cracks had sulfur gas emissions. We talked about the continents possibly shifting, that mother earth is going to shuffle around a bit.

    We talked about places in California where they have been measuring the ground sinking, the sinkholes appearing and swallowing homes and communities. The salt domes in the Gulf of Mexico have been used to store gas and oil lots of sensitivity with the earth. Some of us who are sensitive to the earth changes can feel the changes. It feels like something is going to give at some point.

    Fairy Friend and I were also following Suspicious Observer and the Electric Universe Theory. We are in a solar minimum that has the same charateristics of the Maunder Minimum. The cosmic rays appear to be stronger, Earth's magenetic shield is weakening, we are seeing more low level aurora activity even sprites. The animals and humans are affected by the energetic changes, etc..

    And now, look at what is going on in Hawaii....

    It points to Earth changes we feel are in the process. We want to continue exploring the mechanisms of what is happening.

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    Flash - Montreal Yes, but not as bad as the coastlines of other Great Lakes. I do not see a permanent change there until, perhaps, the mini ice age arrives. Switzerland was built by tectonic stresses, but I only see earthquakes there next year.

    Tintin Quarantino - I looked at the Gordon-Michael Scallion map and was disappointed how much it differed from mine. Also, many people expect a large channel created by the Mississippi and Illinois rivers. One should take a look at the Mid-Continental Ridge System (MRS).
    Atlantis in Antartica might actually be true. I plan to study this soon.

    Hervé - My maps show subsidence under the sea. About the “bedrock of a "shield" type” type, take a look at the continent of Zealandia.

    Star Mariner quoting Cayce - "As to the physical changes again, the land will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America..." My maps show these changes in Japan, Europe and Florida, but California will not fall off the continent. I expect some continued splitting along the San Andres fault near Point Reyes and perhaps the Gulf of California.
    You have the correct meaning of subsidence as depicted on my maps. I am not sure I am up to making a tsunami events map.
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    Regarding the New Orleans area, there are several factors which come into play. One relates to the paid actors at the Entergy Plant hearing in New Orleans East. I used to live there as a young girl and my father, every spring, would have loads of dirt moved in because the ground was sinking so badly away from the foundation. Many of the residents in that recent hearing who were against the plant, were against it because of the additional burden of subsidence due to the plant using underground water to partially power the plant, if I remember correctly.

    Secondly, I believe the coastline of New Orleans is losing a football field of land every 100 minutes.

    Then, you have MRGO (Mississippi River Gulf Outlet) which was an artificially created channel to create a shorter route between the Gulf of Mexico and the Industrial Canal. This has interfered with the diversion of naturally occurring river silt deposited at or around the mouth of the Mississippi, which helped build land mass.

    There is fracking and oil harvesting which has to be doing something to destabilize the ground beneath our feet.

    Also, if there were tremendous amounts of water from melting snows, etc. up north, coming down the Mississippi that would contribute.

    And finally, we have hurricanes. Our New Orleans is built in a bowl.

    If all came together in one perfect storm, the city I love with all my heart would be doomed. I hate to think about all the history and culture which would be lost. But, apparently it wouldn't be the first time it happened in this earth's history.
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Quote Posted by wnlight (here)
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    But the real cause is an unsettled Earth due to core heating.
    The only mechanism I can think of that would go against that grain is some kind of electromagnetic induction à la "Electric Universe" fashion affecting the solar system due to a hypothetical sun twin getting in close range. This could also account for the magnetosphere going berserk as well as a minute slowing down of earth rotation speed and an additional heating of the core from a differential rotation speed between core and crust. An analogy would be electromagnetic brakes in combination with hydraulic transmission (as in Hydraulic coupling).

    In that case, instead of following the model of being a simple dynamo, the earth could be considered as an electrical motor which speed of rotation can be modulated via the dance of the twin stars of a binary solar system...
    Wanted to thank this post twice - I was going to raise that very point, (the electric universe, not the twin star sytem), but you beat me to it, saving my garbled attempt at proffering the question.

    If the system was more complex than we could currently imagine I pictured an excitation in the remote connections to balance a dimming (maunder minimum?) in the central power core.

    A balacing of power between all the nodes in the system, because it is more than just an electrical system, something akin to life itself, a manifestation which is currently beyond our understanding, but not our imagination?

    Wasn't there some evidence all the planets in the system were showing signs of warming?

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    Regarding Manchester and Birmingham but not London, certainly odd. If Manchester suffers Liverpool seems more vulnerable. Birmingham is quite inland though connected via a network of waterways including canals.
    London is the opposite coast, though a rising Dogger Bank would surely see at least a temporary inundation.



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    I've been wanting to relocate for several years now to higher ground and keep looking for rural properties coming up for sale, not because of some intuition though - just because I've come to believe that earth changes are an entirely valid prospect. The longer the period is where they don't occur the more imminent they seem to be in my view.

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    Quote Posted by Jean-Marie (here)
    This thread is very synchronistic to the conversations that I have been having with Fairy Friend.
    When I read your post Jean-Marie, I was under the impression you had been talking with a fairy friend. Until I reached the third paragraph, and realised... Oops. But how cute, I guess! the elementals are certainly real I do think. But getting on point with what you were saying, on Hawaii particularly, I also think it's a sign of things to come. Watch out for Mt. Etna, in the Mediterranean. Cayce placed special emphasis on it, warning that when it blows its top, it's on. The 'changes' have truly begun. We'll see I guess.

    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    If all came together in one perfect storm, the city I love with all my heart would be doomed. I hate to think about all the history and culture which would be lost. But, apparently it wouldn't be the first time it happened in this earth's history.
    I'm very near a coastline too. If there's an inundation, well..I'd rather there wasn't, but so be it. We are here at the Earth's pleasure, and that could change at any time. Besides, only 1,000 years ago this entire area of Somerset where I am, 100 sq miles, was all under water.

    Of course New Orleans is a magnificent city! If anything like this happened there it would be terrible, heart-breaking. But I believe nothing is ever truly lost. Everything is preserved in energy if not matter. It's said that even Atlantis at its glorious height continues to exist, is flourishing and thriving still, just in another vibration.
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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Quote Posted by Jean-Marie (here)
    This thread is very synchronistic to the conversations that I have been having with Fairy Friend.
    When I read your post Jean-Marie, I was under the impression you had been talking with a fairy friend. Until I reached the third paragraph, and realised... Oops. But how cute, I guess! the elementals are certainly real I do think. But getting on point with what you were saying, on Hawaii particularly, I also think it's a sign of things to come. Watch out for Mt. Etna, in the Mediterranean. Cayce placed special emphasis on it, warning that when it blows its top, it's on. The 'changes' have truly begun. We'll see I guess.

    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    If all came together in one perfect storm, the city I love with all my heart would be doomed. I hate to think about all the history and culture which would be lost. But, apparently it wouldn't be the first time it happened in this earth's history.
    I'm very near a coastline too. If there's an inundation, well..I'd rather there wasn't, but so be it. We are here at the Earth's pleasure, and that could change at any time. Besides, only 1,000 years ago this entire area of Somerset where I am, 100 sq miles, was all under water.

    Of course New Orleans is a magnificent city! If anything like this happened there it would be terrible, heart-breaking. But I believe nothing is ever truly lost. Everything is preserved in energy if not matter. It's said that even Atlantis at its glorious height continues to exist, is flourishing and thriving still, just in another vibration.


    Yes, we feel sad when we see stories such as 10,000 dead birds found dead, just dropped from the sky, or 50,000 dead squid on a beach, how?, why?, but in the last, mere, 500 years how many species may have gone completely instinct?

    Don't think I won't be in shock and awe if it happens, but in reality its one cataclysm after another in planetary timescales.

    At the risk of sounding crass and unfeeling we are all, by necessity perhaps, wrapped up in the moment. If 50,000,000 humans disappeared, quite frankly it is barely a scratch. These things have happened again and again on this planet, and many others I am sure. Perhaps the chance to be here during such a period is a once in a 50 x Lifetimes experience? The overload of emotion and processing may be what quite a lot of us require to find a solid footing again?

    I've always been intrigued by the real meaning of the word understanding. An Under - Standing is a foundation. Houses built on sand will not last. A lot of our thinking, increasingly these days, seem to be resting on sands. The more solid the understading the more durable the house.

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    Many years ago, early 1990’s, I read a Chet B Snow book ‘Mass Dreams of the Future’, http://regressionjournal.org/book_re...r-chet-b-snow/ a book depicting doom and gloom..., amongst many other ground-breaking books of that ilk at the time by respected researchers.

    This set in myself and friends off to look for higher places to live, off grid, organically. All the time I was hoping my folks would be safe in the north west of England, on the top of a huge vista over a major estuary, a mile from the sea. I checked sea level potential, and it would appear they would be on an island, albeit agricultural, with fresh springs and great soil. Many years later, I now live in this place again as my folks passed their home to me, with wondrous views, still great agriculture, and having read this thread, it’s like revisiting my fears from many years ago. Surely these ‘visions’/dowsings could be wrong. There have been so many folk panicked into irrational moves for them at the time, but for me, I feel it’s ‘fate’ I should be purportedly in a safer place....

    Sadly, my son and family live at sea level on the Firth of Forth in Scotland, with little chance of escape, he is aware of flooding potential, but financially they cannot move away yet. Let’s hope this thread becomes irrelevant due to other circumstances before any more of us get unnecessarily stressed.
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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Quote Posted by Jean-Marie (here)
    This thread is very synchronistic to the conversations that I have been having with Fairy Friend.
    When I read your post Jean-Marie, I was under the impression you had been talking with a fairy friend. Until I reached the third paragraph, and realised... Oops. But how cute, I guess! the elementals are certainly real I do think. But getting on point with what you were saying, on Hawaii particularly, I also think it's a sign of things to come. Watch out for Mt. Etna, in the Mediterranean. Cayce placed special emphasis on it, warning that when it blows its top, it's on. The 'changes' have truly begun. We'll see I guess.

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    If all came together in one perfect storm, the city I love with all my heart would be doomed. I hate to think about all the history and culture which would be lost. But, apparently it wouldn't be the first time it happened in this earth's history.
    I'm very near a coastline too. If there's an inundation, well..I'd rather there wasn't, but so be it. We are here at the Earth's pleasure, and that could change at any time. Besides, only 1,000 years ago this entire area of Somerset where I am, 100 sq miles, was all under water.

    Of course New Orleans is a magnificent city! If anything like this happened there it would be terrible, heart-breaking. But I believe nothing is ever truly lost. Everything is preserved in energy if not matter. It's said that even Atlantis at its glorious height continues to exist, is flourishing and thriving still, just in another vibration.
    Star, I am well north of New Orleans now, and 160 feet above sea level. But it wasn't fear that bought me here. It was grace.

    That said, I have no fear about such things and trust I will be where I am supposed to be. I've also experienced another dimension and realize you can be in the same "place" but have a different experience.

    I'm not afraid of what life brings. (but anytime history, books, maps, etc are lost it kind of makes my heart cringe) Life brings what it will bring. Best to all of you wonderful souls.
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    Horrible to contemplate this scenario. Such things do happen. I feel that those who are needed will be protected. Another world will grow out of this one. Let's hope it will find a softer, kinder, more gentle road forward.

    No more warnings to family or friends, though. They do not deserve the undue stress or the ammunition against me should things remain pending come 2020...

    Something is approaching, I can't see what it is.

    If the Global Controllers knew this as a certainty, it could be a good time to try out a more full-on war. It seems Iran might be next on the list...just before disaster strikes
    If not now, then when?

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    Truman Cash recalled an abduction scenario where a gray was showing a video of coming near extinction type disasters to a group of abductees. He asked when it would happen, and the gray indicated it was two years hence. That was in the 1990s.

    Dont hold your breath, folks. Although it may be wise to have alternate living possibilities, like a yearround self sufficient cottage, it is most likely you will never need it for survival purposes, let alone for such far-fetched 'earth changes' possibilities discussed here.

    Edit: Additional note - in the chanelled book 'a dweller on two planets' (1890s), it describes the end times for atlantis as being where attrocities were being committed openly, in public, with public acceptance, and even support. The attrocity mentioned was human sacrifice. Even Edgar Casey said that such things were occurring. Truman Cash's past life recalls cite this. So atlantis was buried after it had reached the point of no return ethically, and perhaps spiritually.

    Although we have cited here on PA atrocities in fake wars and false flag events, we know thay there would not be any public acceptance of these activities if the truth were known. Therefore, this world has not gone beyond the point of no return. Therefore, imho, only look for end times when the general ethical and spiritial level of the civilization has reached satanic levels. This civilization is nowhere close. It is part of our job to ensure it never does.
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