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    Currently, you will find the Prime Minister of Jordan has resigned. In this embroilment, they have gotten snared by the International Monetary Fund, and to repay it, they have resorted to some unpopular moves like raising income tax. This little country which looks like it's just "sitting there" has really had a lot to do with launching most of the Western-backed incursions, and the backlash is making them fall apart.

    One of the rebel leaders, Zahran Alloosh, has recently found out that his most trusted advisor and leader of the Signal Battalion, was a Syrian government spy. This one informant was one of the main keys that allowed Syria to re-take Ghouta near Damascus. That gang had been mis-directed and sold out the whole time. In many cases, "rebel leader defects" just means spy goes home, and the activities of these guys are why sometimes battles, or the lack of battles, seem weird from the outside. Many times a platoon is sent to its death by these methods, and on the other hand, the government is not going to bomb an agent in charge.

    Saudi's Crown Prince has not been seen since the "drone or coup", leading many to conclude it was in fact a coup which at least injured the guy. Oddly, the U. S. has not backed the invasion of Hodeidah, Yemen's last free port, and the Saudis have gotten fully besieged down there with no supply lines, and they are probably all going to taste the sand. They can throw money in Syria, Jordan, etc., for the rest of their miserable days, and never be anything but the missing link between man and ape.

    Turkey still has a huge military action both in Syria and Iraq. As much as I admire them standing against the U. S., I am not trying to say they are up to anything other than "Turkish interests". They do have an election soon, with a rival who is against Erdogan's path, so perhaps they may pull off a change or prevent their country from falling apart. Israel finds it more convenient to quit bombing "80,000 Iranians" in Syria, and focus its weapons on Gaza. Strangely, the Jerusalem embassy move was apparently a 1995 law passed by American Congress, which presidents have "waived" every six months until Mr. T decided to let it go through. An American pro-Israeli action at the U. N. the other day was supported by *no* other countries. This is something of a first.

    This is why it seems to me that Zionism is now allowed to "look bad", as it really is...and with all these manipulations to make Jews and Muslims look bad, who benefits? Christians. Sounding like a Roman plot yet?

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    Shaberon,

    Nice analysis there. The only thing I might argue with is your concluding statement regarding, "who benefits?" Apocalyptic fundy Christians are ideologically allied with Zionism. They have been pushing for the embassy to be relocated to Jersusalem, as it lines up with the Book of Revelation, from their limited perspective.

    Fundy Christians are generally tea party republicans, who are pro-Trump. To make your concluding statement possible,or probable, the Christian support you are referring to would have to be made up of moderate Christians. And those moderate Christians, are, in large part Republican, but not necessarily pro-Trump.

    i theorize that the military is that part of the Deep State who support Fundy Christians and Trump and the tea party republicans. The letter agencies support Democrats, and moderate Republicans -- and therefore more traditional moderate Christians.

    Do you think then, the CIA might be gaining some traction in the Middle East -- working to subvert some of the insanity that was being planned for Iran?
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    i can report as of today that its all still quiet here in israel.

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    Shaberon,

    Nice analysis there. The only thing I might argue with is your concluding statement regarding, "who benefits?" Apocalyptic fundy Christians are ideologically allied with Zionism. They have been pushing for the embassy to be relocated to Jersusalem, as it lines up with the Book of Revelation, from their limited perspective.

    Fundy Christians are generally tea party republicans, who are pro-Trump. To make your concluding statement possible,or probable, the Christian support you are referring to would have to be made up of moderate Christians. And those moderate Christians, are, in large part Republican, but not necessarily pro-Trump.

    i theorize that the military is that part of the Deep State who support Fundy Christians and Trump and the tea party republicans. The letter agencies support Democrats, and moderate Republicans -- and therefore more traditional moderate Christians.

    Do you think then, the CIA might be gaining some traction in the Middle East -- working to subvert some of the insanity that was being planned for Iran?
    No I had Catholics in mind. As, let's say, Zionist-Fundamentalist Christianity is one arm, Fundamental Islam is another, of an old British regime, Catholicism is above and beyond that whole ball of wax and will be glad to offer up its solutions for world peace. Moderate Protestants may get some side benefit of looking good, but, to the "Mother Church", that's not considered Christianity. And I mean it on more of a global basis, since they have most of South America and a lot of Europe, plus Jesuitical influence or control over things outside of their congregation. And of course that's where Armageddonism or Millenialism came from, and for this exact reason, to get all these religions into conflict so they could clean up the mess later on.

    Probably the main let-up in what's planned for Iran, is going to be the impossibility of actually doing it. That is what Syria is showing us. The stuff no longer works.

    Israel has been really quiet since the retaliation. I'm glad there hasn't been a major escalation, but, a little further down the road, the Turkish invasion of Syria and Iraq is going to have to be dealt with. Some of the Kurds are even approaching the Syrian government, because a lot of people are sick of the U. S. and American-backed Kurds.

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    Default Re: War breaking out in the Middle East: Israel vs Syria, May 2018 (perhaps entangling Iran, Russia and the US)

    There was another air strike to Syrian Troops and/or Hezbollah causing some twenty or forty casualties.

    Near Abu Kamal, the militia are defeating ISIS who retreated to the Al-Tanf area controlled by U. S. And some are saying the U. S. responded with the strike, or Israel did it (CNN version). Maybe in a few days it will come clear. That's going to be a nasty area very soon.

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    Most importantly, the terrorists have lost their ground connection to the operations room in Jordan. Syria has reclaimed what I believe is called al-Nassib border crossing. Consequently, Israel has slipped in a few small airstrikes in support of the remaining bands of degenerates, and the U. S. airstrikes have blown up at least thirty civilians around Abu Kamal. A big swath of southern Syria is back under the government, there have been numerous surrenders.

    Meanwhile, it appears Turkey, back under another term of Erdogan, is making airstrips around their posts in the north. Their main concern is Kurdish independence, and some Kurds are seeing Syrian reconciliation as a better plan than being a U. S. backed militia. To Turkish credit, at least they don't make up things like the presence of thirty or eighty thousand Iranians, or recycle ten-year-old news to try to prove a chemical weapons program. They seem pretty straightforward for being a large state actor who simply doesn't like Kurds, or the usurpation of Islamic connection to Jerusalem, and hence by extension the U. S.

    Most non-state terrorist groups are now confined to either the southern pocket or the northern province Idlib. It will be interesting to watch the state actors swallow their bitter pill that they were unable to partition Syria, while they justify sending the Saudi coalition to its Yemeni grave. Saudis just enjoyed striking their own forces with an Apache helicopter. For someone with no air defense, Houthis are really bleeding those guys out. I don't recall if the allegedly injured or killed Crown Prince has been seen again.

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    Default Re: War breaking out in the Middle East: Israel vs Syria, May 2018 (perhaps entangling Iran, Russia and the US)

    Looks like Syria steamrolled their way out towards the Golan area. Two things happened: the Knesset revoked the "Caesar" power recently grabbed by Netanyahu & Lieberman...kind of a delayed veto. Then, Israel evacuated about 800 White Helmets and about 2,200 foreign agents, about half from the Saudi coalition. Whatever's left in that small corner is a bit of those that no one really cares about. Nothing much to impede the Syrian military other than maybe a degree of caution about not sparking the Israelis.

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    Default Re: War breaking out in the Middle East: Israel vs Syria, May 2018 (perhaps entangling Iran, Russia and the US)

    Aaaand...that really sensitive powder keg is gone.

    All Golan border purged of militants and under government control. So this should prevent those stray shells and airplanes and so forth that Israel likes to retaliate against. So-called ISIS only holds a few miles across the top of Jordan.

    It remains to be seen about the state actors. With Turkey, at least, it is not too hard to see what they want. The U. S. and pals cannot really be determined. Imperialistic Balkanization is obviously not going to happen, and their only real option is to go occupy Jordan. They have some time to play with, as Syria is going to roast all the militants they moved to Idlib, but every victory frees up more of their military assets to deal with ever-decreasing adversaries. Everyone knows the U. S. is not going to engage anyone who can actually fight back. They will probably be relegated to year sixteen or however long it is of quagmire in Afghanistan. Anyone remember the simple Afghan request for some evidence that bin Laden attacked the U. S.? Or his alleged body thrown in the ocean?

    U. S. and good evidence, ne'er the twain shall meet.

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    The rest of the White Helmets are stuck in Idlib.

    According to Russia, they are preparing a chemical attack, so they sent in a few cruise missile ships.

    According to Uncle Scam, Damascus is preparing a chemical attack, so they sent in a few cruise missile ships.

    Although the terror gangs are mostly finished, this still has potential for state actors to go for the hard knocks. Israel does not seem to be doing anything. Turkey and U. S. still very dangerous.

    Toss "war hero" Mccain into the ten or more western authority figures chanting "Assad must go" who themselves are now dead or deposed. From Obama and Sarkozy up to this chowder head who entered Syria with no visa to take pictures with Al Qaeda. They're gone and their system is nose diving. Despite the losses, Syria now has a very effective military and a better connection to Iraq and Iran.

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    The rest of the White Helmets are stuck in Idlib.

    According to Russia, they are preparing a chemical attack, so they sent in a few cruise missile ships.

    According to Uncle Scam, Damascus is preparing a chemical attack, so they sent in a few cruise missile ships.

    Although the terror gangs are mostly finished, this still has potential for state actors to go for the hard knocks. Israel does not seem to be doing anything. Turkey and U. S. still very dangerous.

    Toss "war hero" Mccain into the ten or more western authority figures chanting "Assad must go" who themselves are now dead or deposed. From Obama and Sarkozy up to this chowder head who entered Syria with no visa to take pictures with Al Qaeda. They're gone and their system is nose diving. Despite the losses, Syria now has a very effective military and a better connection to Iraq and Iran.
    McCain was a war monger who hooked up with real Al Qaeda terrorist that he wanted the US to support, Keating 7, Sarah Palin, 'bomb bomb Iran, ... and more I'm glad he's gone.

    I read that warning about a new false flag there..... What a surprise that wouldn't be... the CIA scorpion has not changed it nature as some have said here...... so any time things get dull here with not enough terror porn for the populace they will supply another one world wide.

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