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    Quantum Internet

    A major breakthrough has been made at TU Delft. Researchers have succeeded in making a well-functioning quantum connection that can be used for a future form of the internet. That is a bit complicated, but let’s keep it simple. Quantum connection runs on the idea that – for reasons that nobody understands, even though it does work – there is a connection between two quantum particles. That is called quantum entanglement, or entanglement. Again: how that works is unclear, but it works.

    How does quantum internet work?

    That is therefore bizarre, but it also means that you can send data through that system. After that entanglement between the particles is established, two light particles are released that are also entangled. Then you can move one of the two light particles in all sorts of ways, because sending light, we could already do that. It is possible through our fiber optic connection, but it can also be radiated via satellite. That is even better, because at the moment there is noise when you move the particles through fiber and it does not come that far.

    And now comes the trick: that quantum state of those particles has the remarkable property that if you do something with it (like looking at it, or copying the particle) the particle changes. So you can check if a particle arrives or if it has been sent undisturbed and you can be sure that no one has seen the ‘data’. This makes it virtually impossible to intercept and that would mean that in any case no data can be intercepted between sender and receiver.
    • What did TU Delft do then?
    Research into these quantum particles is already underway in various countries and laboratories, but TU Delft has now made a big step in entangling the particles. That was still in the heavily experimental phase and it took forever (especially in internet terms) to intertwine two particles. A new technique now makes it possible to entangle a particle up to forty times per second and then you are at a speed that you can really start testing with quantum internet.

    Of course that is the next thing they will do, so a connection is now being established between Amsterdam, Delft, Leiden and The Hague. It should be functional by 2020. In the four cities a kind of extremely strong fridges will be put down which are needed to intertwine particles and these will then be connected to the regular optical fiber network. That is where the interlaced light particles go through and if that all works according to plan, there is a start of the quantum internet.
    • Competition
    Hopefully they are the first. Indeed, researchers at MIT and in a lab in China are also quite far behind. There was also a demonstration earlier of sending quantum particles via satellite by a Chinese party. Satellites are extra interesting, because the noise that occurs when sending the light particles does not occur in the vacuum of the room. Quantum entanglement has tremendous potential, but for now it would be a feast if we can stably and consistently set up this form of communication and with a bit of luck this will soon be the first in the Netherlands.
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    Default Re: Major Dutch Breakthrough ‘Quantum Internet’ – No Microwaves No Wifi Needed!

    Along the lines of my thinking since I was a child...
    Everyone (ok most) has/have the innate ability to communicate telepathically.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ral+projection

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    Default Re: Major Dutch Breakthrough ‘Quantum Internet’ – No Microwaves No Wifi Needed!

    Quote Posted by dynamo (here)
    Along the lines of my thinking since I was a child...
    Everyone (ok most) has/have the innate ability to communicate telepathically.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ral+projection

    indeed we are bio-quantum with 4D 5D Spiral Antennas and even a Quantum Crystal (Pineal Gland)
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    Quote Posted by dynamo (here)
    Along the lines of my thinking since I was a child...
    Everyone (ok most) has/have the innate ability to communicate telepathically.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ral+projection

    indeed we are bio-quantum with 4D 5D Spiral Antennas and even a Quantum Crystal (Pineal Gland)
    Exactly, ExomatrixTV!
    Those that are interested in opening their "third eye" should investigate de-calcifying the pineal gland!

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    Default Re: Major Dutch Breakthrough ‘Quantum Internet’ – No Microwaves No Wifi Needed!

    Communication via quantum entanglement will most likely break the light speed barrier. At this time, we do not know if entanglement communication could actually be instantaneous in time for the sender and receiver. It might be. And then, Albert Einstein agued against using the term "instantaneous" in such a way, as he had concluded that information cannot travel faster than light.

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    Synthetic Telepathy?

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    Quote Posted by wnlight (here)
    Communication via quantum entanglement will most likely break the light speed barrier. At this time, we do not know if entanglement communication could actually be instantaneous in time for the sender and receiver. It might be. And then, Albert Einstein agued against using the term "instantaneous" in such a way, as he had concluded that information cannot travel faster than light.
    There are a couple of "things" that I am aware of, since I was in my teens, that are faster than light, prior to "quantum entanglement" becoming mainstream, so to speak:
    a) tachyons (I have no proof of this as I do not have the tools to "measure" it)
    b) thought (I have a gut feeling this is, in fact, true, as well as personal experiences).
    Just putting this out there, not meant to hijack the thread...

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    Default Re: Major Dutch Breakthrough ‘Quantum Internet’ – No Microwaves No Wifi Needed!

    Regarding quantum entanglement communications, one of the interesting pieces of info channelled through Lee Carroll from the entity Kryon, is that the galactic et neighbourhood communicates on this basis. The communication is virtually instantaneous. If we could monitor this stream of communication we would see a humungous amount of chattering. This makes sense since we know from various attempts, such as SETI, that our galactic neighbours do not use the methodology we use for communicating because we dont hear them.

    Given that our scientists, and nasa, using relatively primitive space telescopes, have already discovered dozens of rocky planets within a hundred light years of Earth, and a dozen or more Earthlike, we can reasonably assume that our galaxy is teeming with sentient life. We know that many of those species, good bad and indifferent, are already visiting us. Also, we can probably safely assume that most, if not all, of this sentient life likes to communicate with each other like we do. So, we now understand a bit more about how they communicate, likely via quantum entanglement.

    It is very good that this research is so widespread. The fact that quantum communication is likely very secure, the intelligence/security establishment wont like that, and may try to squash this technology. We cannot let that occur. Having this research done on a transnational basis, in the 'white world', makes it more likely that suppression wont happen.

    I wonder whether quantum entanglement can be used in some way for telescopy?
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    Default Re: Major Dutch Breakthrough ‘Quantum Internet’ – No Microwaves No Wifi Needed!

    @dynamo, Your two superluminal things
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    a) tachyons (I have no proof of this as I do not have the tools to "measure" it)
    b) thought (I have a gut feeling this is, in fact, true, as well as personal experiences).
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    may be correct, but as yet, have not been measured. Tachyons are by definition superluminal but have not been observed in nature - only on Star Trek.

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    Quote Posted by wnlight (here)
    @dynamo, Your two superluminal things
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    a) tachyons (I have no proof of this as I do not have the tools to "measure" it)
    b) thought (I have a gut feeling this is, in fact, true, as well as personal experiences).
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    may be correct, but as yet, have not been measured. Tachyons are by definition superluminal but have not been observed in nature - only on Star Trek.
    Yes, Wnlight, you are repeating what I already stated.
    I don't know for sure because...
    a) I cannot measure it
    b) I cannot measure it
    Therefore, Star Trek or not, quantum entanglement is all we have, at the present time, that exhibits instantaneous action/reaction.
    Therefore, I thought (very quickly, faster-than-light LOL, JK!) I would add my own examples.
    Because something does not fit into modern day physics formulas does not mean it doesn't exist.
    We simply cannot measure it...yet.
    Maybe we will never be able to, I don't know.
    Advances in physics (gravitational wave detection now a reality with LIGO, for example) may be just around the corner (again, faster than light LOL).

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    Not having a scientific mind, I cannot address the discussion being held here....BUT....I have had a personal experience with Quantum Entanglement, if that is what it's called, involving a very dear friend of mine. It was not something I sought after, but just happened as a result of a long series of events over a period of years. It was a complete surprise to me & still happens on occasion.

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    If Quantum Internet really works ... that in itself can mean you have a great possibility of a "Alien Quantum Galaxy Internet-like Communications" or "Alien Quantum Universal Internet-like Communications" ... David Sereda was already discussing this years ago!





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