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    Default Re: Build your own Nazi saucer from Revell

    Good News (maybe)!

    I asked our local Model Hobby shop to discreetly ask the Revell Rep if they had any for sale "out the back of their warehouse". The rep wasn't aware of the ban but does have them and the shop has ordered two (this is in NZ). Price & delivery TBC.

    Will keep the thread advised - it may go somewhere... or nowhere! Talk nicely to your local Revell dealer...
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    Default Re: Build your own Nazi saucer from Revell

    Nintendo does not have any problems like Revell with Nazi Saucers in Games for the Nintendo Switch

    The Game is "Aces of the Luftwaffe Squadron"



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    Nazi UFO Toy Pulled for Historical Inaccuracy


    A model of the nonexistent Nazi UFO "Haunebu II" produced by model company Revell will no longer be produced after criticism about its historical inaccuracy. The model's packaging, which falsely proclaimed the "round aircraft" was the first object able to fly in space with a top speed of 6000 kph (over 3700 mph), failed to mention that the craft was never built, drawing fire from The German Children's Protection Association (DKSB) and Dresden's Military History Museum (MHM), according to German publication, The Local.

    While Revel produces plenty of models depicting fictional spacecraft and real-life Nazi war machines this crossover product drew criticism because its lack of disclosure that the craft never existed or flew plays into prevalent, ahistorical narratives that overestimate the Nazi's level of technology and scientific innovations and serve to mythologize the fascist regime.

    As Military History Museum historian Jens Wehner told German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung:

    "At that time it was technologically impossible to build something like this. ... Enthusiasts can use this as a strategy to cast doubt on what we know today about National Socialism."


    https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...al-inaccuracy/


    Oh come on I would love to have a model of this and the Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte – Hitlers Heavy Tank Design



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    Default Re: Build your own Nazi saucer from Revell

    Well other kitset manufacturers & The Flight Sim Community don't have a problem with it either. (and IMO, I don't consider the Nazi Saucer program to be any more "fictional" than Roswell!)

    Famed FlightSim Aircraft designer, Bill Ortis, will soon be releasing his Haunebu IIa payware version from his FlightSim model company, Lionheart Creations (altho he may want to correct his spelling of "Haunebu" ) - click to enlarge

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    http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Haunebu2A.html

    Over the years, Bill has produced some spectacular real & fictional models for the popular Microsoft Flight Simulator Series; check out his "hangar" on what's available here (click on the aircraft image to see the full range):

    http://www.lionheartcreations.com/

    And Freeware models including the Saucer from the TV Series, "The Invaders" (similar design).

    http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Freeware.html

    The up-tight German authorities may be able to put the brakes on Revell (it's a German company), but good luck with the rest of the world!

    PS - I checked with our local model shop the other day & as far as I know, my 2 x Revell Haunebu II kits are on the way & expected to be here in 3 weeks - we'll see if they "disappear" enroute.
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    UPDATE: Am happy to advise all interested parties, that I'm now the owner of the (banned) Revell Haunebu II model!

    (Quite a story; after a five-month wait, in November last year, the local Model shop I ordered it from burned down. I thought that was the end of it. Last month, I received an unexpected call from the model shop - which had relocated - who informed me it had arrived).

    It's stashed in the wardrobe in its original wrapping. Cost: EU49.99 EURO which worked out to NZ$160. (So much for the three-week delivery - I think they rowed the boat from Germany - twice!)

    There is a God! (talk nicely to your Revell dealer - bribes may help)
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    Default Re: Build your own Nazi saucer from Revell

    Does the kit come with a vial of mercury?
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    Default Re: Build your own Nazi saucer from Revell

    Nice.
    Are you Going to build or keep ?

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    Quote Posted by Did You See Them (here)
    Nice.
    Are you Going to build or keep ?
    Was hoping to get two, build one & keep the other, but two other lucky Kiwi's beat me to it (three actually came in).

    So for now, it will stay sealed in the box due to it's potential collector's value.

    (The strange thing is, despite the claims in the "banned" articles, there is absolutely nothing on the box that claims that these saucers were in any way "real"). ie, I am mystified as to why they were then banned? (Fake News claims???)


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    Does the kit come with a vial of mercury?
    LOL - I haven't opened it! Just a wee shake. Nothing went bang, whirrrrr, BEEPs... (or ticking noises!!!) and nothing leaking out of it, mercury or otherwise. No Schnapps either! I was at least hoping it might levitate!
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    Yep - Keeper for sure !
    I'm a builder - but even I would have to sit on that one !

    I'm just about to start my spring project building the Apollo 11 and LUT from educraft paper diversions ( http://www.educraftdiversions.org/Pr...de=1%3A144-LUT ) in time for 50th Moon shot anniversary.



    I have a nice Estes Apollo 11 to finish the model.
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Does the kit come with a vial of mercury?
    LOL - I haven't opened it! Just a wee shake. Nothing went bang, whirrrrr, BEEPs... (or ticking noises!!!) and nothing leaking out of it, mercury or otherwise. No Schnapps either! I was at least hoping it might levitate!
    Here is a hack:
    Try weighing the unopened box while rotating it on a ball bearing ;-)
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!) - Impressive detail inside & outside; specs included!;

    1/72 (20cm) version from Squadron Models (massive! 15" diameter)
    Squadron Models isn't afraid of the Nazi symbol! My son is really into building models. His Revell Hindenburg model has a weird red rectangle with a blank white circle where the Nazi symbol should be. It looks like an inverted Japanese flag. I wonder if he would want to build a saucer. I will ask him.
    There's no time like the present.

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    @ Did You See Them

    WOW! That is some impressive model-making skills! (your picture)

    I grew up with & was inspired by Gerry Anderson of Thunderbirds fame, (fantastic model-making for his various TV shows, and one of the first to incorporate "weathering").

    When I was younger, I was a builder (it's a real creative skill which I much enjoy and requires a lot of patience, as I'm sure you know! ).

    I learned later that rare models are worth more in their boxes. (A relatively cheap investment! I have a bit of a collection - see my earlier post on the STINGRAY).

    I used my "banged up" model of that (STINGRAY) to create what is planned to be a new cutaway illustration. The new base illustration is the top left and my model is bottom right. (Examples below).

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    (I've never quite understood the need for some people to have to touch them! A few have suffered destruction from kids not being able to keep their hands off them, or their parents having a clue of the painstaking work that goes into them)! PLEASE DON'T TOUCH!

    They are a work of art, not "toys"!

    So now I hide the completed ones away, out of reach. Selective "eyes only".

    These days, I'm (trying) to learn 3-D Modelling on a computer, mostly something I can "fly" in Flight Simulator. Ooooof - quite a learning curve from a solid real "thing".

    On the subject of "Flying Saucers", here's one I'm sure you'll recognise - a FSim model, incredibly detailed with all the "right" noises, lighting, animation and complete working interior. It will fly from (cyber) London to New York in a few minutes!

    Creating the "texture maps" in Photoshop for a CGI model is much like painting a solid model; pristine "new" or "weathering" with all the scratches, stains & blemishes to create that "real" look.

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    (I've got a couple of different models of the plastic kitsets of the Jupiter 2 and Area S4 UFO as well - both collectibles - and no Swastikas!).

    I'm hoping Bill Ortis' Flight Sim model of the Haunebu II isn't far away!

    @ Merry Mom

    I would say, "go for it!"
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!) - Impressive detail inside & outside; specs included!;
    Yeah, since we all know those are bound to be highly accurate.

    It is a handsome model though. I used to collect WW2 models when I was a teenager. It's educational in itself.

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Jens Wehner, a historian from the Military History Museum in Dresden, has decried the model as “dangerous nonsense.” Attributing the Nazis the capabilities that they never possessed is “unacceptable,” Wehner told NDR broadcaster.
    I might like "dangerous nonsense." It seems to be somehow different than all the other, more mundane, boring forms of nonsense, doesn't it?

    Almost as if there is actually some sense to it after all, or else why would it be so "dangerous" to consider? I wonder if this same German official gets his panties all wadded up about men pretending to be women, because to me, that would more deservingly be called "dangerous nonsense." In fact, that kind of make-believe has an over 40% suicide attempt rate, so people pretending that they can change genders even has a quantifiable casualty rate, once it dawns on these poor people that they'll never look like anything other than a tranny. That's dangerous nonsense, but I have a feeling this German official today would praise it as a positive good for German society, despite Nazis undoubtedly having much lower urges to kill themselves. Projection and irony.

    The stuff about Highjump and all the rest is probably why this model exists in the first place. More people are awake and aware to this kind of information than the authorities are comfortable with, and the way this model was handled is just one more indication of that.

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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Does the kit come with a vial of mercury?
    FWIW, the recent helicopter activity in Los Angeles brought out enough military commentary that I now question how any helicopter works.

    One convincing set of comments I read indicated that helicopters have had anti-gravity devices, with the propellers more or less for show, for many years. They have boxes underneath them, with some generic, meaningless name, where an anti-gravity device sits.

    Maybe someone just felt like pulling peoples' legs, but if so, he got me. I just wish I could relate what he said more faithfully from memory. Watching some of those helicopters maneuver around the streets of Los Angeles so quickly and nimbly, I thought something weird was going on with their movement before I even started reading the military commentary on them.

    That would be something if they've been fielding this technology for decades in front of all of us, and we didn't even know it.

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    Quote Posted by Did You See Them (here)
    Yep - Keeper for sure !
    I'm a builder - but even I would have to sit on that one !

    I'm just about to start my spring project building the Apollo 11 and LUT from educraft paper diversions ( http://www.educraftdiversions.org/Pr...de=1%3A144-LUT ) in time for 50th Moon shot anniversary.



    I have a nice Estes Apollo 11 to finish the model.
    You might like this site Did You See Them.

    Link: https://axmpaperspacescalemodels.com
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