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    Pretty funny that Revell now has a Hanebu 2 Model Kit. I have my serious doubts with the Nazi Saucer stuff but thats just me.



    See the Revell Site (in german)
    https://www.revell.de/produkte/produ...r-haunebu.html

    Here is the "how to" instruction
    https://stage.revell.de/fileadmin/im...V01_01_LOW.PDF

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    Default Re: Build your own Nazi saucer from Revell

    They could always repackage it as George Adamski's Venusian "Scout Ship" Saucer (identical profile to a Haunebu II - coincidence? ), but I doubt it would have the same selling/marketing appeal

    (Ooops,... I spoke too soon, they DO have a 1/72 model of that, too! (bottom image & video - from HAND HEAD/WAVE, a Japanese kit, not Revell )

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    Hi uzn cool post.

    Where on the products site is that model?
    Can't seem to find them.
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    Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!) - Impressive detail inside & outside; specs included!;

    1/72 (20cm) version from Squadron Models (massive! 15" diameter)




    Also available from Hand Head Models 1/72 (same manufacturer as the Adamski Saucer mentioned earlier)



    There's a smaller 1/144 version from Pegasus Models (also from Japan, cost is NZ$120 & available from here for us Kiwis, which I might add, is grossly over-priced - you can get it for a fraction of that online (like 25% of this cost) from other suppliers, including Squadron Models. The Pegasus model is VERY simple and doesn't feature an interior.):

    https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/...l-kit/26854979
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    They could always repackage it as George Adamski's Venusian "Scout Ship" Saucer (identical profile to a Haunebu II - coincidence? )
    When did the (questionable) images and blueprints of the Haunebu design surface? My guess is after Adamski...
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    Quote Posted by Builder (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    They could always repackage it as George Adamski's Venusian "Scout Ship" Saucer (identical profile to a Haunebu II - coincidence? )
    When did the (questionable) images and blueprints of the Haunebu design surface? My guess is after Adamski...
    Yes, correct, sort-of! - for the Western World, anyways. (although that might not be correct for Germany). The difference being that the Nazi's were trying to keep a lid on the program, whereas Adamski was trying to get every bit of media attention on his "contacts" that he could garner.

    Given that the internet wasn't what it is now, first time I saw/heard of the Haunebu's (and other alleged German Saucer projects), was in the mid 80's - early 90's. However, the witnesses giving evidence at the time, & the Haunebu II design, - also known as the RFZ-6 (and alleged construction), precede Adamski's sightings by a decade (1942). Other designs, drawings, plans etc themselves, went back to before WWII. (Earliest Reports go back to the 1920's - 1930's of developmental work with Vrils etc; the alleged 1936 crash of a UFO/aliens in the Black Forest, the much larger Haunebu III was allegedly constructed & flown before the end of WWII...).

    (Likewise, the Anglo-American version of events in WWII history don't always match the German/Japanese versions - I would suggest take all of them with a healthy grain ... or boulder - of the proverbial. )

    It really does deserve a thread of its own.

    (My guess? If both scenarios are in fact true, what Adamski witnessed wasn't Venusians; it was humans in Haunebu's. Adamski's sightings are close to the period of the infamous Washington DC UFO flyovers ... also believed to be "German UFO's", tied in with Operation High Jump. )

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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Hi uzn cool post.

    Where on the products site is that model?
    Can't seem to find them.
    AMAZON are bound to have all the different variations (with perhaps the exception of the Revell vsn), Sunny-side-up, or your local hobby shop (OR they will order it for you). None of them seem to be cheap! Will have to add it to my "To Get" list, (maybe for Xmas!). With all that detail, it's a pity they don't really levitate!
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!) - Impressive detail inside & outside; specs included!;

    1/72 (20cm) version from Squadron Models (massive! 15" diameter)




    Also available from Hand Head Models 1/72 (same manufacturer as the Adamski Saucer mentioned earlier)



    There's a smaller 1/144 version from Pegasus Models (also from Japan, cost is NZ$120 & available from here for us Kiwis):

    https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/...l-kit/26854979

    Ummm so who's the geek again Kiwielf?


    Anyway on a similar note regarding what if aircraft, here is a link to a site that profiles aircraft that were in development by the luftwaffe during WW2, and is a bit more realistic and possible.


    Link: http://www.luft46.com


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    I think Revell pulled the model from its Shop. It was said that the german officials contacted Revell and asked them if they where into spreading conspiracy theories now and engaging in falseifying history. So I guess Revell did not want to take the heat.

    Focke Wulf TA 183 (officially never flew)
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    Default Re: Build your own Nazi saucer from Revell

    You could also build a Roswell saucer , Area 51 UFO or TR 3 B....





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    Quote Posted by BMJ (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!)
    Ummm so who's the geek again Kiwielf?
    LOL - ME! (It was self-depracating)

    (Interesting comment about "officials" putting the heat on REVELL, uzn - one side's myth is another side's truth, eh?

    Those "officials" must have no sense of humour! I hope they don't ban the upcoming "IRON SKY II" movie! ).

    If true, those sort of over-the-top actions from "officials" unwittingly draw more attention to it, making me even more likely to believe there's something to it.
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Those "officials" must have no sense of humour!
    Of course not, they are Germans! ;-)
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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    I think Revell pulled the model from its Shop. It was said that the german officials contacted Revell and asked them if they where into spreading conspiracy theories now and engaging in falseifying history. So I guess Revell did not want to take the heat.
    Related Article here (sound familiar? Mockingbird programming in action. WTF does this have to do with "child protection groups"? Really???):

    https://www.rt.com/news/430259-nazi-...saucer-amazon/

    Nazi flying saucer model removed from Amazon in Germany after public outcry
    Published time: 19 Jun, 2018 21:47
    Edited time: 20 Jun, 2018 12:43

    A scale model of a fictional Nazi flying saucer has been removed from sale after the controversial product faced harsh criticism from German historians and child protection groups.

    The scale plastic model, entitled ‘Flying Saucer Haunebu II,’ has been sold on Amazon for €49.99 since May. But the model’s producer, Revell, announced on Tuesday that it has removed the model from its stock due to “criticism in recent days.”

    German historians were angry with the misleading description of the made-up aircraft in the manual, which presented it as a real historical one. Revell called Haunebu II “an aircraft from the World War II era,” claiming that its air-capable prototypes were developed in mid-1943, but that their tests couldn’t be carried out due to the conflict.

    Jens Wehner, a historian from the Military History Museum in Dresden, has decried the model as “dangerous nonsense.” Attributing the Nazis the capabilities that they never possessed is “unacceptable,” Wehner told NDR broadcaster.

    He was backed by political scientist Dierk Borstel, who said that items that “promote Nazi legends or indirectly support right-wing conspiracy theories” should not be put on sale.

    The German Child Protection Association was also concerned that the toy, which has the insignias of Luftwaffe, Nazi Germany’s aerial warfare branch, on it, would find its way into the hands of the children. “As a child protection association, we generally reject toys that can lead to ideologization,” federal managing director Cordula Lasner-Tietze told NDR.

    Revell spokesperson told Interfax that “the product wasn’t intended for kids as it was wrongly reported by the media, but for grown up scale model collectors.” However, she acknowledged that “the text on the product was incorrect and the indication of the age range was misleading,” adding that the “company reacted and won’t sell the product anymore.”

    Haunebu II by Revell is currently unavailable on Amazon, but the website still sells the model of the same mythical Nazi saucer from another producer.

    Some conspiracy theories have linked WWII-era UFO sightings to a secret flying saucer program of the Third Reich. Despite not being backed by facts, those claims have found reflection in pop culture, with numerous sci-fi novels, movies and video games depicting Nazi flying saucer bases in Antarctica or on the Moon.

    Hmmmm how convenient. Using the same logic, will they also ban all period military models with Nazi Swastikas/symbols on them? (So, going by the article, actually, three+ people got upset about it? LOL)

    Definitely going to get one, now - heck, I'll get all of them! Instant Collectible! (Keep it in the box, in a few years it'll be worth gold)
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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Focke Wulf TA 183 (officially never flew)

    True, but with the mass migration of nazi officials to Argentina immediately after WW2 came the knowledge about the Focke Wulf TA 183 that would form the basis for the Argentinian aircraft designated the FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II.

    Quote from wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_183

    "The Focke-Wulf Ta 183 Huckebein was a design for a jet-powered fighter aircraft intended as the successor to the Messerschmitt Me 262 and other day fighters in Luftwaffe service during World War II. It was developed only to the extent of wind tunnel models when the war ended, but the basic design was further developed postwar in Argentina as the FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II. The name Huckebein is a reference to a trouble-making raven (Hans Huckebein der Unglücksrabe) from an illustrated story in 1867 by Wilhelm Busch.[2]


    Quote from wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IAe_33_Pulqui_II

    "The FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II (in the indigenous language Mapuche, Pulqúi: Arrow)[2] was a jet fighter aircraft designed by Kurt Tank in the late 1940s in Argentina, under the Perón government, and built by the Fábrica Militar de Aviones (FMA).[3] Embodying many of the design elements of the wartime Focke-Wulf Ta 183, an unrealized fighter project,[4] the FMA envisioned the IAe 33 Pulqui II as a successor to the postwar Gloster Meteor F4 in service with the Fuerza Aérea Argentina."

    Also the "TA" in the Focke Wulf TA 183 designation indicated it was a Kurt Tank design, the same Kurt Tank that designed the FMA IAe 33 Pulqui II.



    Versus:

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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Hi uzn cool post.

    Where on the products site is that model?
    Can't seem to find them.
    Sunny-side-up you can get the kit from squadron links below.

    Squadron Models 1/72 Haunebu II - German Flying Saucer - SQM0001
    Link: https://www.squadron.com/Squadron-Mo...-p/sqm0001.htm

    Squadron Models 1/72 Haunebu II Premium Edition - SQM0002
    Link: https://www.squadron.com/Squadron-Mo...-p/sqm0002.htm

    Pegasus 1/144 Haunebu II Saucer - PEG9119
    Link: https://www.squadron.com/Haunebu-II-...-p/peg9119.htm
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote Posted by BMJ (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Here's some different variations of the Haunebu II models (geek alert!)
    Ummm so who's the geek again Kiwielf?
    LOL - ME! (It was self-depracating)

    (Interesting comment about "officials" putting the heat on REVELL, uzn - one side's myth is another side's truth, eh?

    Those "officials" must have no sense of humour! I hope they don't ban the upcoming "IRON SKY II" movie! ).

    If true, those sort of over-the-top actions from "officials" unwittingly draw more attention to it, making me even more likely to believe there's something to it.
    I confess I am a geek too Kiwielf

    Political Correctness has infiltrated modelling to and dictates the art on most new model kits.

    For example below is an image of the recently released Airfix 1/72 Messerchmitt Me262A-1A, note that the historically incorrect absence of the swastika from the tail surface on all images of the Me262A-1A.



    BACK TO TOPIC BEFORE THE MODS GIVE ME A BACK TO TOPIC.

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    LMFAO !

    Collector items now !!
    Get 'em now and stash 'em - before their released with new box design !

    "Toy Recalled For Teaching Kids That Nazis Achieved Space Travel"

    "The toy company has pulled the 69-part set, known as the Haunebu II, from store shelves. But you can still find plenty of the toys available for sale online. The Nazi UFO is even seen on the box blasting Allied planes out of the sky—a disgusting image to promote, to say the least.

    The real-life flying saucer project was started in 1934 and some conspiracy theorists believe that the Nazis actually did achieve flight with the vehicle in 1943. Some believe that the Nazis hid these UFOs in secret bases in places like Antartica, and the History Channel even devoted a 2009 episode of its show “UFO Hunters” to the Nazi plans for space travel. But there’s no real evidence that the Nazis achieved flight with these strange contraptions.

    “Unfortunately, our product description does not adequately express this and we apologize for it,” Revell said"


    http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/06/fly...-space-travel/

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    Quote Posted by Did You See Them (here)
    LMFAO !

    Collector items now !!
    Get 'em now and stash 'em - before their released with new box design !

    "Toy Recalled For Teaching Kids That Nazis Achieved Space Travel"

    "The toy company has pulled the 69-part set, known as the Haunebu II, from store shelves. But you can still find plenty of the toys available for sale online. The Nazi UFO is even seen on the box blasting Allied planes out of the sky—a disgusting image to promote, to say the least.

    The real-life flying saucer project was started in 1934 and some conspiracy theorists believe that the Nazis actually did achieve flight with the vehicle in 1943. Some believe that the Nazis hid these UFOs in secret bases in places like Antartica, and the History Channel even devoted a 2009 episode of its show “UFO Hunters” to the Nazi plans for space travel. But there’s no real evidence that the Nazis achieved flight with these strange contraptions.

    “Unfortunately, our product description does not adequately express this and we apologize for it,” Revell said"


    http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/06/fly...-space-travel/
    Don't you "love" the way the article is written, though? (As if "they" would know? ) LMAO

    (I guess these "experts" haven't heard of the concept, "Absence of proof isn't proof of absence" - and there's plenty of evidence... )

    http://south.greyfalcon.us/
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    Collector items now !!
    Get 'em now and stash 'em - before their released with new box design !
    Just checked on the Amazon Germany website, the price has shot up to 490 Euros!!
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    Quote Posted by Builder (here)
    Quote Posted by Did You See Them (here)
    Collector items now !!
    Get 'em now and stash 'em - before their released with new box design !
    Just checked on the Amazon Germany website, the price has shot up to 490 Euros!!
    Yup; I'm not surprised. Try and get one in the box, un-assembled (and look after the box as well as the model; keep it in brand new, pristine condition. It's worth paying the extra shipping! Also look around on eBay etc - some sellers are completely oblivious to what they're worth and there are bargains "out there"! Amazon can be quite pricey in that respect.)

    (My Dad bought me an Airfix Lyons Maid Stingray kit (Gerry Anderson TV predecessor to Thunderbirds), when I was a kid - mid 60's era - for the equivalent of 60 pence at the time. It was a limited run, only available through the Lyons Maid promotion in the TV21 Comic (below) of the same era. (Even the original comics will fetch 20-50 pounds EACH).

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    Unmade, in the original box - if you can find one - is worth over $1,000 pounds. Not bad for a few pieces of old plastic!

    I wasn't kidding when I said it would be worth gold in a few years.


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    Last edited by KiwiElf; 29th June 2018 at 01:10.

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