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    I have always been a poor sleeper but over the past few years chronic lack of sleep has really begun to dominate my life. Fortunately I'm retired but even so I frequently turn down events which would entail an early rise and, to be honest I'm so sick of feeling exhausted most of the time. I suffered a minor heart attack five years ago and am now acutely aware that lack of sleep is negatively affecting my physical health. I don't know if the problem originated in childhood or a previous life and sometimes I wonder if I may be under some kind of psychic attack.
    I've tried everything: herbs, supplements, homeopathy. Some things work but only for short periods of time and I'm very loathe to go down the route of sleeping pills. In short, I want my life back!
    If anyone thinks they may be able to help get to the source of the problem, I would be so grateful and thankful for any advice or healing.

    With blessings. X

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    Have you tried melatonin? 3mg tabs (harmless, non-pharma) really can help.

    It's an over-the-counter thing from pharmacies and also from health food and supplement outlets. Places like Boots the Chemist will certainly have it, and lots of other shops too.

    We all produce melatonin naturally to help us sleep, so this is really merely a supplement. And it works extremely well for many people who'd never touch a sleeping pill no matter what they were paid.

    To build on that, Knockout (from the Infowars Store in the US) has 3mg melatonin, plus a bunch of other natural sleep aids as well. I've never used it, and don't know anyone who has, but looking at the ingredients it really might be worth a try if there's a way to get it shipped to you.

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    Thanks, Bill, your info is much appreciated but unfortunately melatonin is illegal (!) in the UK. The other thing is I've heard it's hard to get the dosage right on an individual level....? However I'll have a look at the Infowars site.
    And, I've just remembered - I did order some from Mercola a few years ago which didn't really help but then again, maybe the dosage was wrong for me.

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    If you can, get your thyroid checked. If it is not functioning properly, this will cause insomnia and other symptoms. It is unfortunate that Melatonin is illegal in the Uk. I use 10 mg to help me drift off to sleep.

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    Thanks, Bill, your info is much appreciated but unfortunately melatonin is illegal (!) in the UK. The other thing is I've heard it's hard to get the dosage right on an individual level....? However I'll have a look at the Infowars site.
    And, I've just remembered - I did order some from Mercola a few years ago which didn't really help but then again, maybe the dosage was wrong for me.
    3mg should really be enough. But I never knew it was illegal in the UK! (Wow.) As best I know, it's 100% totally safe and natural.

    Where I am in Ecuador it's an over-the-counter thing, as it is in the US. I imagine you can easily get it shipped from the US... if you've not tried it for quite a while, then I'd suggest you really might do that. There surely has to be absolutely nothing to lose apart from a few £s.

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    Cannabis (an indica - preferrably purple kush or related to purple kush) really has helped my insomnia.

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    Quote Posted by Omni (here)
    Cannabis (an indica - preferrably purple kush or related to purple kush) really has helped my insomnia.
    Cannabis, of any description, leaves me more than usually wide awake! Thanks for the suggestion though.

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    Thanks, Bill, your info is much appreciated but unfortunately melatonin is illegal (!) in the UK. The other thing is I've heard it's hard to get the dosage right on an individual level....? However I'll have a look at the Infowars site.
    And, I've just remembered - I did order some from Mercola a few years ago which didn't really help but then again, maybe the dosage was wrong for me.
    3mg should really be enough. But I never knew it was illegal in the UK! (Wow.) As best I know, it's 100% totally safe and natural.

    Where I am in Ecuador it's an over-the-counter thing, as it is in the US. I imagine you can easily get it shipped from the US... if you've not tried it for quite a while, then I'd suggest you really might do that. There surely has to be absolutely nothing to lose apart from a few £s.
    Yes, it is unbelievable that something so harmless can't be purchased here. However, I've bitten the bullet and ordered Infowar's Knockout sleep supplement. Will keep you posted, if I'm awake........

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    On the fortunately now rare occasions when I want to get to sleep at a particular time, I swear by Steve Gibson's "Healthy Sleep Formula": https://www.grc.com/health/sleep/hea...ep_formula.htm

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    Iodine knocks me out like a light, without fail. Magnesium is good for nerves. Both of those help the heart. Teas like Chamomile and mint can help. If you're not overweight, a heavy carb meal can make someone sleepy. Oats may help.

    Imee Ooi is good for any perceived psychic attacks:


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    Angelfire,
    since you already had a close call (heart attack) could you be associating losing consciousness (falling asleep) with dying?
    If you're lucky enough to get a good counselor it may only take a few sessions to help bring something like unfinished emotional business you have with someone (or yourself for that matter) to the surface. just a thought...

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    Valarian root is quite good, as long as you don't go bonkers with it.

    https://draxe.com/valerian-root/

    These people used to hold that type of thing in stock http://www.sorcerers-apprentice.co.uk/homepage.htm
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    I cannot believe melatonin is illegal in the U.K. I take it one or two times a week and it works beautifully. Bill's post about our bodies naturally producing it are spot on. It IS safe and natural.

    Spiral's suggestion about Valerian is also good (though I prefer Melatonin) but I did find very vivid dreams with it and would have a bit of a drugged effect the morning after. But, everyone's needs and chemistry are different.
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    Hi AngelFire - when I read this, what I sense is a situation called "sleep apnea", meaning one is stopping breathing during sleep periods, and then when CO2 builds up too much, one jerks awake, getting absolutely "fitful" sleep...

    I would ask, have you ever been under surgery? There are anesthetics which are given in hospitals to suppress normal breathing, and those substances actually damage the normal response center in the brain which controls regular sleep, diaphragm response (raising and lowering the chest)... The doctor's solution (which I think is horrendous that they don't tell people that the surgery anesthetics permanently caused brain damage) is to use a CPAP machine, making u look like an elephant forever tied to a positive pressure breather..

    One can get a sleep apnea test done where one's oxygen levels are checked. A deviated septum (in the back of the nose) is also a rather common situation, where breathing is blocked temporarily when the airway closes..

    There is of all things something designed to handle snoring, which moves the LOWER JAW out front of the top teeth.. When that happens the airway is opened up moreso during sleep. It works wonders..

    Just my thoughts based on what I understand in the 'medical field' and some personal experience.

    *PS -- Helene West makes some good comments..

    And PPS - taking substances to suppress or relax breathing isn't the correct solution if the situation is "stopping of normal breathing" (sleep apnea).. You don't need to get more foggy when u are needing more oxygen..


    HERE are a few technical references which backs up my observations of the description of classic Sleep Apnea -

    (summary - find out if your oxygen levels during sleeping are correct. If they are not, find the reason why.. if one is having sleeping problems, such as falling asleep then waking up, then trying to fall asleep, then getting a few minutes then waking up with some "panic" feelings, that is a sure indication of breathing cessation, and excess CO2 buildup.. Don't medicate then cause you want to breathe fully and regularly not slow down your breathing..)
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    After this life I am coming back to do it all again. All the regrets, f*ck ups, pain and stress they sometimes keep me awake at night, only go away when I surrender and accept, that I am coming back to do this all again. So go to sleep brother/sister, get your rest, the sun has not set for you yet, still work to be done.

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    Though I know there is still not enough research on the effects of Wifi or EMFs, I would suggest unplugging the modem at night. Also, if you have a smartphone, keep it out of your bedroom at night. It does no harm to test it.

    How is the lighting in your bedroom? Too much light might make it hard to sleep. If there are light sources that you have no control of, you can buy a sleeping mask.

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    I've had problems with insomnia for years, but I've found a few things that have helped, though they've changed over time.
    Currently, taking 1000 mgs of Tryptophan an hour before bed helps me to relax enough to drift off, providing I spend that hour quietly in bed reading, with no electrical devices nearby or turned on (especially true for wi-fi, mobile phones, even alarm clocks).
    Sometimes just a good cup of hot chocolate will do the trick.
    It used to be that homeopathic remedies worked incredibly well, but it can be difficult to find just the right one.
    If I'm not getting enough exercise during the day, it will generally be harder to get to sleep, so that has always been a factor.
    Unless I've been so active that I am in pain, then something to relieve the pain will be in order.
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    Dear Angelfire, have you tried Sound Therapy? An hour session with Crystal Singing Bowls, Tibetan Singing Bowls, 128 hz, 1361.hz and 64 hz tuning forks placed on and around your body have helped people that I have seen with sleep disorders. Its also a natural modality that doesn't require taking tablets that can mess around with your digestion. I hope you get some rest friend. Faithfully Glenn.

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    A cure for insomnia suggested by my wife is warm milk and honey. Another suggestion is a small glass of wine. Valeriana and chamomile are also helpful, as suggested above.

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    Quote Posted by angelfire (here)
    I have always been a poor sleeper but over the past few years chronic lack of sleep has really begun to dominate my life. Fortunately I'm retired but even so I frequently turn down events which would entail an early rise and, to be honest I'm so sick of feeling exhausted most of the time. I suffered a minor heart attack five years ago and am now acutely aware that lack of sleep is negatively affecting my physical health. I don't know if the problem originated in childhood or a previous life and sometimes I wonder if I may be under some kind of psychic attack.
    I've tried everything: herbs, supplements, homeopathy. Some things work but only for short periods of time and I'm very loathe to go down the route of sleeping pills. In short, I want my life back!
    If anyone thinks they may be able to help get to the source of the problem, I would be so grateful and thankful for any advice or healing.

    With blessings. X
    Suffering for over twenty five years from chronic insomnia, I can simply state that there's no real remedy for this, unfortunately. If you don't respond to natural supplements and herbs, you may have to resort to harsh medications, like ambien or lunesta. I tried just about everything conceivable, nothing helps, and some over the counter sleeping aids based on antihistamine, make things even worse. I tried melatonin several times, it never helped, but made me even more drowsy the next day. Strenuous workout does help a lot ( I often run or cycle), but I still have to keep a stash of ambien, to have something to reach for, when I know I have to get up early in the morning. I also had the prescription for lunesta more than a decade ago, and worked for the most, but I found the ambien CR far more reliable (in my case). Avoid any amount of alcohol, as well as coffee or any caffeinated beverages any later, than morning hours. If you opt for either sleep medications I just mentioned, make sure you take them on empty stomach. This can be very inconvenient, because one needs to coordinate meal time with the medication. If dinner time is just an hour before bedtime, likely you still will have a full stomach when you take the pill, and the effects expected, will be delayed for at least two hours, or longer (happened to me many times). It is a very debilitating curse, and once you suffer from it, it will likely follow you for the rest of your life. Side effects from the medication can vary individually, mine is fatigue towards the later part of the day, late afternoons, early evenings. At times that fatigue can be severe, and may require a short nap to ensure you won't fall asleep behind the wheel for instance, if you drive a vehicle the next day. Wish I could offer something more helpful, but try exercising if you can, like jogging (any pace you can sustain) for an extended period daily, to get your joints tired out. That will signal your brain to shut you down at night. All the best!

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    Also, you could try natural sources of tryptophan in the evening, e.g. bananas, cashews, valerian and certain other teas.

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