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    The newest Picture by NASA / JPL-Caltech / MSSS looks quite different than red.



    The images above, taken by MARCI – the Mars Color Imager camera onboard MRO and processed by Cantor and his team at Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS) show how completely a planet-encircling dust event, or PEDE as it’s known by NASA acronym.

    That´s a long way from pictures like this that I have been shown in school way back


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    Default Re: Is Mars still red ?

    Red or not, why is it so important for NASA to use the red filter.
    I don't get it?


    And why are there Canadian lemmings on mars as well as bones from dead walrusses?
    Devon island photo's I believe.
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    Default Re: Is Mars still red ?

    There were articles about this years ago back in the 1990's for some reason I
    cannot remember why NASA used red filters . Richard Hoagland or someone similar
    exposed this in their presentation if I remember correctly.....

    This vid is not what I remember but gives you an idea....


    NASA, The BBC and the Colour of the Sky on Mars



    Published on 27 Aug 2012
    In view of the recent arrival of the Curiosity Rover on Mars, I made this video to
    show how the BBC repeatedly broadcasts, false Information relating to the Colour
    of the Sky on Mars, In 1977, 2009 and 2012 - and of course, at other times too.


    ===================================================


    The second blue planet (Mars) ....Another short vid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY0AzRw-iIQ
    Published on 29 May 2015...( 2 mins )...
    Is Mars really red as Nasa claim it is.Check out the video and judge for your self.
    I believe Andrew D. Basiago when he says we can breathe on Mars.

    ===================================================

    Mike Bara who co wrote Dark Mission with Richard Hoagland is one I was thinking
    of


    Back in October 2007 we posted a blog entry on the color correction problem NASA
    has historically had with images taken from the Martian surface. We deal with this
    specifically in chapter 11 of Dark Mission, and also posted articles on it on the
    Enterprise Mission web site several years ago.



    As we showed in those articles, NASA has deliberately altered the colors of the
    images to make the Martian sky appear an absurd “Technicolor red,” when in fact
    all the evidence clearly shows that the true color of the Martian sky is (and must
    be) blue – just as it is here on Earth. In fact, when we used a simple color
    correction tool in PhotoShop called the Auto Levels tool, Mars came out looking as
    Carl Sagan described it after the first Viking images in 1976 – it looked like Arizona.



    http://mikebara.blogspot.com/2008/01...s-of-mars.html
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    Default Re: Is Mars still red ?

    They are gradually reducing the red filtering because they have to get in line with the reality that will be revealed when a private mission to Mars shows it like it is.

    Well, that's what I think.

    Here's a question, are they going to collect up all the old pictures and vanish them or are they going to blag it out assuming we are either stupid or don't care ?
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    There were articles about this years ago back in the 1990's for some reason I
    cannot remember why NASA used red filters . Richard Hoagland or someone similar
    exposed this in their presentation if I remember correctly.....

    This vid is not what I remember but gives you an idea....


    NASA, The BBC and the Colour of the Sky on Mars



    Published on 27 Aug 2012
    In view of the recent arrival of the Curiosity Rover on Mars, I made this video to
    show how the BBC repeatedly broadcasts, false Information relating to the Colour
    of the Sky on Mars, In 1977, 2009 and 2012 - and of course, at other times too.


    ===================================================


    The second blue planet (Mars) ....Another short vid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY0AzRw-iIQ
    Published on 29 May 2015...( 2 mins )...
    Is Mars really red as Nasa claim it is.Check out the video and judge for your self.
    I believe Andrew D. Basiago when he says we can breathe on Mars.

    ===================================================

    Mike Bara who co wrote Dark Mission with Richard Hoagland is one I was thinking
    of


    Back in October 2007 we posted a blog entry on the color correction problem NASA
    has historically had with images taken from the Martian surface. We deal with this
    specifically in chapter 11 of Dark Mission, and also posted articles on it on the
    Enterprise Mission web site several years ago.



    As we showed in those articles, NASA has deliberately altered the colors of the
    images to make the Martian sky appear an absurd “Technicolor red,” when in fact
    all the evidence clearly shows that the true color of the Martian sky is (and must
    be) blue – just as it is here on Earth. In fact, when we used a simple color
    correction tool in PhotoShop called the Auto Levels tool, Mars came out looking as
    Carl Sagan described it after the first Viking images in 1976 – it looked like Arizona.



    http://mikebara.blogspot.com/2008/01...s-of-mars.html
    Yes Cider I remember doing a colour test with the rover picture in Avalon a year or so ago.
    You adjust your image in your computer paint programme so that the rovers colour chart looks true colour and watch the sky and ground change, change into a much subtler and healthy looking planet.

    You can do the test with the above image which shows the chart


    A question should be:
    Was the rovers colour swatch left in an image for us to see and not an oversight by NASA?
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    Default Re: Is Mars still red ?

    Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze
    Yup, saw it a few months back IIRC.. still red.
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze
    I know its more red than the other planets, but not as red as they want us to believe. Anyway "Jeeze" next time I will think twice about starting a thread.
    Adios and Njoy

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    Default Re: Is Mars still red ?

    Still as red today through my telescope as it was 50 years ago through my telescope.
    Just sayin'...

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    Default Re: Is Mars still red ?

    Is anyone, besides me, "seeing Red"?!!

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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Anyway "Jeeze" next time I will think twice about starting a thread.
    I hope you take the wording of that comment (which, as the OP I can see as triggering) in stride and do not let it effect your future self....


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    I regret the jeeze part. Sorry. I know they mess with the color filters. And that is frustrating too...
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I regret the jeeze part. Sorry. I know they mess with the color filters. And that is frustrating too...
    Yes two separate things, and also things appear different at different scales. From Earth, Mars is still red, and it does strongly appear that NASA doesn't want us to know the colour of things - also supported by all the original moon photos being, or converted to B&W. To me it would seem that NASA doesn't want us to consider that Mars sky is often blue, or that it is a lot more like Earth than we are told.
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    Default Re: Is Mars still red ?

    am not sure Mars was ever red- we are seeing NASA's manipupulated photos- has anyone not yet considered that concept?

    Larry

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    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    am not sure Mars was ever red- we are seeing NASA's manipupulated photos- has anyone not yet considered that concept?

    Larry
    Quote Posted by dynamo (here)
    Still as red today through my telescope as it was 50 years ago through my telescope.
    Just sayin'...
    I'm pretty sure NASA can't manipulate peoples eyes or telescopes ... But if you are talking about the surface images - yes, I think that is "out for debate" still ...
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    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    am not sure Mars was ever red- we are seeing NASA's manipupulated photos- has anyone not yet considered that concept?

    Larry
    It looks just like this with the naked eye... google your region and when it will be visible.. a common sight.
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    Checked the telescope, still red from the Carolinas. NASA? Still NASA.

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze
    I know its more red than the other planets, but not as red as they want us to believe. Anyway "Jeeze" next time I will think twice about starting a thread.
    Adios and Njoy

    If anybody is interested here is a closeup of the white spots on Ceres:
    Hey, don't worry about the title at all-- I think the title is very clickable, nice job! Discussion worthy topic too.

    Thanks so much for the ceres picture, been looking ALL OVER for this thing- do you remember which spacecraft shot it?

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    Quote Posted by Joe from the Carolinas (here)
    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Just look up. Mars is visible and it is still red. Jeeze
    I know its more red than the other planets, but not as red as they want us to believe. Anyway "Jeeze" next time I will think twice about starting a thread.
    Adios and Njoy

    If anybody is interested here is a closeup of the white spots on Ceres:
    Hey, don't worry about the title at all-- I think the title is very clickable, nice job! Discussion worthy topic too.

    Thanks so much for the ceres picture, been looking ALL OVER for this thing- do you remember which spacecraft shot it?
    Yup, it´s been shot by NASA´s DAWN Spacecraft.
    And they say it´s basically salt (natriumcarbonat).



    DAWN´s Webpage:
    https://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/
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    Here some prestine Images by the german Spaceagency DLR (ESA/DLR/FU Berlin).





    and a colorcoded Hightmap:

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