Brexit: UK Cabinet revolt as ministers resign over Theresa May's new Brexit plan, 9 July 2018

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LEAKED: Footage From Inside No. 10 Downing Street!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tjp5OmoDYQM

[greybeard]

Seems the world is getting even crazier.
Where is common sense and balance?
Ch

[onawah]

Kerry Cassidy newest--interview with Tony Gosling re Brexit, current events
12/10/18
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Streamed live 76 minutes ago

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Starting out in the aviation industry and trained by the BBC, Tony Gosling is a British land rights activist, historian & investigative radio journalist. Over the last 20 years he has been exposing the secret power of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) and élite Bilderberg Conferences where the dark forces of corporations, media, banks and royalty conspire to accumulate wealth and power through extortion and war.
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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RM6UfHRltqo

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Theresa May is to embark on a frantic round of European diplomacy in a final attempt to salvage her Brexit deal and her premiership after a chaotic day in which she pulled Tuesday’s scheduled meaningful vote in the face of overwhelming opposition.

The prime minister will meet the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, in Berlin on Tuesday to seek “further assurances” to ensure that the Northern Irish backstop would never come into force, although No 10 warned a rapid breakthrough was unlikely.

Downing Street said the vote could be delayed until January, reducing the time available to pass the necessary legislation to complete the UK’s departure – leading to growing concerns that a no-deal Brexit would result.

Theresa May quits

The prime minister resigns after a humiliating defeat. Many MPs believe she will have to go if she loses by more than 100 votes. An interim prime minister would have to be chosen while the Tory party plans a leadership contest.

PM goes cap in hand back to Brussels

May begs Michel Barnier, the European Union’s chief Brexit negotiator, left, to go the extra mile and reopen the talks. She asks for concessions over the Irish backstop, and then puts whatever she can secure to a second vote in the Commons.

May promotes the Norway option, floated by Amber Rudd and others

Plenty of Conservative and Labour MPs would be happy to see a soft-Brexit, Norway-style solution that keeps Britain in the single market, as suggested by Amber Rudd, the work and pensions secretary. Although she has previously rubbished the idea, May could do a U-turn and try to sell it as a compromise to avoid the disaster of no deal.

May caves in to calls for a second referendum

With her deal ditched, and if “no deal” is also ruled out by parliament, May’s least worst option could be to go back to the people. Many Tory MPs are pushing her to do so. If Labour officially backs the idea, a second referendum –as suggested by Keir Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary – could happen.

May or her successor accepts defeat and agrees to a no-deal Brexit

If parliament cannot agree on what kind of exit from the European Union it wants, and if there is no majority for a second referendum, Britain hurtles towards a no-deal departure on 29 March 2019. A hardcore group of Brexiters led by Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg would rather accept trading with Europe on basic World Trade Organisation terms than May’s deal or any form of soft Brexit.

Brexit is dropped without a second referendum

If there is no agreement on anything, and “no deal” has been blocked off as an option by parliament, the other choice available is no Brexit. May or whoever is in charge could form a cross-party government of national unity, revoke Article 50 and call the whole thing off.

With more than 100 Conservative MPs lining up to vote against the Brexit deal, May made the humiliating admission to the Commons that “if we went ahead and held the vote tomorrow the deal would be rejected by a significant margin”.

The prime minister now hopes to secure an exchange of letters or side-declarations pledging that the backstop in the withdrawal agreement, which could keep the UK in an indefinite customs union, would be temporary and unlikely to come into force. However, Downing Street admitted that the document may not be legally binding, meaning it was not clear they would satisfy sceptical MPs, amid intense pressure from rebel Tories and the Democratic Unionist party to ditch the backstop.

Labour indicated it would table a vote of no confidence if May were to fail in her emergency negotiations, saying that if she returned without significant changes “she will have decisively and unquestionably lost the confidence of parliament”.

Hard Brexiters questioned what May could achieve. Jacob Rees-Mogg said it was a “rotten and humiliating day” for the government, having earlier accused May of failing to govern because she did not “have the gumption” to put her deal before MPs to approve.

Cabinet sources also voiced concern about May’s strategy, having cancelled the vote – which some had wanted to take place – without the EU being signed up to anything yet. “There doesn’t seem to be any sort of plan,” one said.

In a dramatic moment at the close of Monday’s Commons debate, as the government formally deferred the deal vote, the Labour MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle marched forward to grab the mace in protest and held it aloft. The ceremonial object represents the Queen’s authority in parliament – without it parliament cannot meet or pass laws.
Tory MPs shouted “Disgrace”. Russell-Moyle appeared unsure of his next step and handed the mace back to Commons officials, as the Speaker, John Bercow, demanded he put it back down. The MP was suspended for the rest of the sitting – only a few minutes.Labour MPs had earlier won an emergency debate on the vote’s cancellation, set to be heard on Tuesday, and backed by the Tory MPs Peter Bone and Sarah Wollaston.

As well as meeting Merkel, May will fly out to meet Mark Rutte, the Dutch prime minister, in the Hague, on Tuesday morning and is expected to meet Donald Tusk, the president of the European council, and the European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, in Brussels.

Her aim is to soften up sympathetic EU leaders before the European summit on Thursday and Friday. Significantly, however, there were no plans for May to meet the French president, Emmanuel Macron, who is battling a wave of civil unrest in his own country and who recently demanded that the UK give special access to EU fishing trawlers in order to secure a future free trade deal.

Tusk said he would allow May to discuss Brexit at the end of the week, but made clear that there were limits to what the EU was willing to do.

The pound fell to its lowest level in two years amid fears that a no-deal Brexit was more likely, while the CBI said the delay to the deal was a blow for business and that the UK “risks sliding towards a national crisis”.

There is no formal deadline for holding the meaningful vote before the UK leaves the European Union on 29 March next year but the government needs to leave enough time to pass the relevant legislation that will give effect to the 585-page withdrawal agreement that the UK has drawn up with the EU.

MPs raised concern that May could never return to the Commons to seek approval from parliament, although Downing Street said that the five-day Brexit debate – halted after three days – would be resumed when the prime minister was ready. No 10 added that enough time would be left to pass the withdrawal bill legislation, although there would be less than three months left.

The day had begun amid intense speculation about the meaningful vote given the scale of parliamentary opposition, but with ministers insisting that it would take place on Tuesday evening as planned.

Michael Gove was asked on the BBC’s Today programme shortly after 8am if the vote was “definitely, 100%” going to happen, Gove replied: “Yes.” Pressed on the point, he said: “The vote is going ahead.”

A Downing Street spokesman told reporters shortly after 11am that the vote would take place as scheduled, only for the news that it had been pulled to leak within minutes of a cabinet teleconference beginning at 11.30. Despite the leaks, No 10 would only say that May would make a statement to MPs at 3.30pm, and refused to publicly confirm what everybody knew in Westminster until the prime minister got on her feet.

A backstop is required to ensure there is no hard border in Ireland if a comprehensive free trade deal cannot be signed before the end of 2020. Theresa May has proposed to the EU that the whole of the UK would remain in the customs union after Brexit, but Brussels has said it needs more time to evaluate the proposal.

As a result, the EU insists on having its own backstop - the backstop to the backstop - which would mean Northern Ireland would remain in the single market and customs union in the absence of a free trade deal, prompting fierce objections from Conservative hard Brexiters and the DUP, which props up her government.

That prompted May to propose a country-wide alternative in which the whole of the UK would remain in parts of the customs union after Brexit.

“The EU still requires a ‘backstop to the backstop’ – effectively an insurance policy for the insurance policy. And they want this to be the Northern Ireland-only solution that they had previously proposed,” May told MPs.

Raising the stakes, the prime minister said the EU’s insistence amounted to a threat to the constitution of the UK: “We have been clear that we cannot agree to anything that threatens the integrity of our United Kingdom,” she added.

May began her address to MPs by saying that during the debate she had “listened very carefully to what has been said in this chamber and out of it by members of all sides”, prompting laughter.

Jeremy Corbyn asked May to clarify if she was seeking actual changes to the withdrawal agreement with the EU, or “mere reassurances” about change. The Labour leader added: “Bringing back the same botched deal, either next week or in January – and can she be clear on the timing? – will not change its fundamental flaws and deeply held objections right across this house, which go far wider than the backstop alone.”

Leo Varadkar, the Irish taoiseach, who spoke to May on Sunday, said such a clarification of the EU’s intentions would be possible, but pointed to the lack of substance to such an offer.

“I have no difficulty with statements that clarify what’s in the withdrawal agreement [like Gibraltar], but no statement of clarification can contradict what’s in it,” Varadkar said.

A backstop is deemed necessary to avoid a hard border in Ireland if the UK and the EU cannot agree a free trade agreement by the end of the Brexit transition period in 2020. May has proposed a UK-wide backstop that would result in the whole country remaining in a customs union with the EU, while, additionally, Northern Ireland would remain in some aspects of the single market.

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David Cameron says he has no regrets about calling the Brexit referendum despite Commons chaos
Yahoo News UK Ross McGuinness,Yahoo News UK i


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/david-came...085907765.html
David Cameron called the Brexit referendum in 2016 (Picture: PA)

David Cameron has insisted he has no regrets about calling the Brexit referendum, despite the chaos in the Commons this week.

The former prime minister had previously warned that leaving the European Union would be an “act of economic and political self-harm”.

The ex-Conservative leader said he had honoured his election promise to hold the referendum and was now supportive of Theresa May’s efforts, even though she was forced to defer an MPs’ vote on her Brexit withdrawal plan on Monday.

Approached by Sky News while getting into his car, Mr Cameron said on Monday: “I don’t regret calling a referendum.
David Cameron helping prime minister Theresa May with campaigning for an October 2016 by-election (Picture: PA)

“I made a promise in the election to call a referendum and I called the referendum.

“Obviously I’m very concerned about what’s happening today but I do support the prime minister in her efforts to try and have a close partnership with the European Union.

“That’s the right thing to do and she has my support.”

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Just before the 2015 general election Mr Cameron told voters they faced a “simple and inescapable choice – stability and strong government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband”.

During campaigning on the EU membership issue Mr Cameron said leaving the single market would be “needless and reckless” and that cutting ties with Brussels would “hit our service industries hard”.

But after insisting he would stay on whatever the outcome of the vote, he resigned the day after the narrow Leave win on June 24, 2016.
David Cameron stepped down as prime minister following the Brexit referendum result in June 2016 (Picture: PA)

Some MPs have been critical of his decision to leave front-line politics, like Labour’s Barry Sheerman, who recently said Mr Cameron and George Osborne “ran away from their responsibilities”.

A more colourful intervention came from EastEnders actor Danny Dyer, who told Good Evening Britain in June: “How comes he can scuttle off? He called all this on.

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Juncker warns May there is 'no room whatsoever' to change Brexit deal
Luke James,Yahoo Finance UK 43 minutes ago

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/ju...091328012.html

Prime minister Theresa May and EU commission president Jean-Claude Juncker (Getty)

Theresa May has set-off on a diplomatic blitz of Europe in a last ditch bid to improve the Brexit deal – but EU leaders have warned the prime minister she will not come away with any concessions.

After postponing the ‘meaningful vote’ to avoid a humiliating defeat, embattled May is embarking on a whistle stop tour of European capitals to ask for help in getting the deal past MPs.

After visits to the Hague and Berlin, her final stop on Tuesday will be Brussels where she will meet European commission president Jean-Claude Juncker.

But Juncker has already crushed any hopes May had of making substantial changes to the deal – especially over the backstop.

“There is no room whatsoever for renegotiating,” Juncker said during a speech to the European parliament just hours ahead of his meeting with May.

“This will not happen – everyone needs to know the withdrawal agreement will not be reopened.”

European parliament president Antonio Tajani added: “It’s good to have discussions, to meet with Mrs May but we won’t be changing our position.”

And, speaking as he arrived at an EU meeting in Brussels, German Europe minister Michael Roth described any further negotiations as a “fantasy.”

Expressing the sense of Brexit fatigue on the EU side, he said: “We spent so much time, energy and creativity to negotiate something we in Berlin and Brussels don’t want.”

Juncker recognised that the backstop is a “big problem” for many MPs, but insisted it is “necessary for the entire coherence of what we have agreed with Britain.”

The commission chief said though that there is room for “further clarifications and further interpretations without opening the withdrawal agreement.”

As well as Juncker, May is meeting with Dutch prime minister Mark Rutte, German chancellor Angela Merkel and European council president Donald Tusk.

The meetings come ahead of a summit of EU leaders in Brussels which begins on Thursday. Brexit was not meant to be on the agenda but was added at the last minute after May’s failure to get the deal through the UK parliament.

Brexit minister Martin Callanan told reports in Brussels that May will “seek additional reassurances that MPs have asked for that the UK cannot be trapped permanently in the backstop.”

The prime minister is likely to come away from the summit with a statement from the EU clarifying that it is not their intention to use the backstop.

It is likely t be similar to the statement given to Spanish prime minister Pedro Sanchez at the last summit to placate his protects over Gibraltar. While it was substantial politically, it was not legally binding.

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Manfred Weber, the frontrunner to replace Juncker as Commission president, told MEPs the best way to avoid the backstop being used was for the UK to agreed a Norway-style deal with the EU, which would involve accepting freedom of movement.

European parliament Brexit coordinator Guy Verhofstadt also told May: “If she is looking for a closer relationship with the EU to avoid the use of this backstop, there will be no obstacle, no problem.”

[greybeard]

Best drama on TV at the moment.
However the consequences are far reaching.
I suspect that if Brexit happens then SNP will go for homerule--which now seems a posibility.
If this happens then Scotland would rejoin the common market.
What then of a border between Scotland and England?
There would have to be one-lets face it.

Chris

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Opposing leaders demand answers from Theresa May over PM's 'contempt for Parliament'
Yahoo News UK Chris Parsons,Yahoo News UK 3 hours ago

Teresa May is to embark on a frantic round of European diplomacy in a final attempt to salvage her Brexit deal

Opposition leaders rounded on Theresa May last night as they accused the Prime Minister of showing ‘contempt for Parliament’ over her botched Brexit vote.

In a highly unusual move, they have sent a joint letter to the Prime Minister expressing concern about her sudden cancellation of a crunch Commons vote on the Brexit deal that was due to be held on Tuesday.

Details of the letter emerged as Mrs May urged rebel MPs who oppose her Brexit deal to come up with a better solution or back her.
The joint letter sent by opposing leaders to Prime Minister Theresa May. (Twitter)
Jeremy Corbyn criticised Theresa May for her handling of the Brexit process (PA)

The letter, signed jointly by the leaders of Labour, the SNP, the Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru and the Greens, says: ‘We believe that this deferral shows a contempt for Parliament.’

It adds: ‘You admitted in the House that you are running from a heavy defeat on your deal in the House of Commons.

‘It cannot be right that the Government can unilaterally alter the arrangements, once this House has agreed on a timetable, without the House being given the opportunity to express its will.’
Brexit countdown

The PM was told yesterday she must ‘govern or go’ as she delayed her crucial Brexit vote to avoid a ‘significant’ defeat.

The letter, signed by Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn, SNP Westminster leader Ian Blackford, Liberal Democrat leader Sir Vince Cable, Plaid Cymru’s Liz Saville Roberts and co-leader of the Greens Caroline Lucas, demanded assurances from the PM on what happens next.

The opposition leaders want to know if the Brexit deal is dead and if revised proposals will be substantially different.

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I must admit Im curious to see where all this is going.
Chris

[avid]

This travesty of justice and democracy is blatantly obvious, defer, defer, defer until folk are exhausted. The globalist’s agenda is being perpetrated, just as Ireland’s negation of the vote on the Lisbon Treaty was refuted until they ‘re-voted’ in capitulation. Major corporate blackmail involved.
Here we are again - surely we can rise above this, and not be ‘railroaded’ by the globalist agenda? The sufferage will be ‘cutting the UK off’ from import/export, literally isolation from healthcare/fuel/food as penalty for independence, however, we got past this before, just a pity we let go of our national structures years ago to the EU, so a hard slog ahead. Is ‘evil’ in control? Never in my thoughts, but such fortitude and positivity is necessary. So disappointed in the UK ‘bought and paid for’ government.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Theresa May about to make statement very shortly...ballot to be taken tonight.

UK Prime Minister Theresa May will face a vote of no confidence in her leadership later on Wednesday.

Conservative MPs will vote between 18:00 GMT and 20:00 GMT.

The challenge to Mrs May's position comes after the required 48 letters calling for a contest were delivered.

Mrs May, who has been prime minister since shortly after the UK voted to leave the European Union in 2016, has faced criticism in her party for the Brexit plan she has negotiated.

The prime minister is expected to make a statement in Downing Street at 08:30 GMT.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46535739

Viking

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Thanks Viking
Inevitable I suppose.
Were is it going now I wonder.
No room for negotiation with Brexit--so what can a new Pm do?
Your guess as good as mine

Chris

[greybeard]

Who could take over from Theresa May as Conservative Party leader?

Conservative MPs will vote tonight on whether Theresa May can continue as leader of the party.

At least 48 Tories have submitted letters of no confidence in the PM, with a ballot taking place between 6 and 8pm this evening.

If Mrs May loses, a leadership election will happen immediately.

There is no clear frontrunner to take over from Mrs May, leaving a strong possibility she could win a confidence vote. If this happens another leadership election cannot take place within the next 12 months.
Theresa May could face a leadership challenge this week (PA Images)

If she loses and an election is triggered, any MP who wishes to run as candidate needs the support of two fellow MPs in order to get onto the ballot paper.

Tory MPs then vote using the first past the post system. If more than three candidates have been nominated, the one with the lowest proportion of votes is eliminated and another ballot is held. This process continues until two candidates remain.

Conservative Party members then vote for the two nominees, and the winner becomes the new leader.

These are the candidates tipped to take over – and their realistic chances of doing so.
Dominic Raab

The former Brexit Secretary, who resigned in protest against Theresa May’s Brexit deal, has been touted as a possible PM.

His decision to quit over the deal, which is hated by hard Brexiteers, could win him support from the faction who wish to install a Eurosceptic to renegotiate a Brexit deal with the EU.

However he is also viewed by many as shrugging off responsibility for a Brexit deal he himself was tasked with negotiating. This failure as a minister is seen to suggest unsuitability for high office.
Sajid Javid

The Home Secretary has won support across the board for his performance in his current role, condemning the hostile environment policy and helping to force a U-turn from the Government over visas for highly-skilled migrants.

Javid may have damaged his standing with Brexiteers by campaigning for Remain during the EU referendum campaign, but has since about-turned to become an ardent Brexit supporter.
Boris Johnson

The former foreign secretary quit the government in July over Theresa May’s handling of Brexit, and has been a regular and vocal critic of her approach ever since, leading the Brexiteer calls to ‘chuck Chequers’.

According to a poll by grassroots organisation ConservativeHome, Mr Johnson is the favourite among party members to take the helm.

However he is an unpopular figure among Tory MPs, and his stint in the Foreign Office was seen as unsuccessful, and even disastrous, by his colleagues. It’s unlikely he could secure enough support from Tory MPs – though not impossible.
Michael Gove

Michael Gove is clearly keen for the top job, running against Mrs May in the last leadership race.

He is popular among Eurosceptics and has voiced cautious criticism of the Prime Minister’s Brexit stance.

His stint as Environment Secretary has won him public favour, and his war on plastics has proved popular with voters.

However Mr Gove is considered to have stabbed Boris Johnson in the back during the last leadership election, pulling support for his colleague in order to launch his own bid. The memory of this means a number of MPs still consider him untrustworthy.
Jeremy Hunt

A former Remainer turned Brexit cheerleader, Jeremy Hunt is seen as a safe pair of hands among an assortment of loose cannon colleagues.

However he irked Remainers – and the EU – recently by comparing the European Union to to the Soviet Union in a move that damaged his reliable reputation.

He has publicly backed Theresa May a number of times, pledging her his ‘full support’, but could still throw his hat into the ring in the event of an election.
Jacob Rees-Mogg

Jacob Rees-Mogg has insisted numerous times that he is not interested in leading his party. But the committed Brexiteer has a solid base of EU-loathing fans who would like him to do so.

The backbencher has never held a ministerial post, and is realistically too divisive to stand much chance of making it onto the ballot paper.
What about the PM herself?

There is no single candidate who enjoys support across the unite the warring Tory party, meaning that the likely winner of a no confidence vote will be Mrs May herself.

If more than half her party backs her she can stay in position, and cannot be challenged again for another year.
Anyone else?

Another former Brexit Secretary David Davis is understood to still have his eyes on the hot seat after a failed leadership bid in 2005.

Penny Mourdant, another Brexiteer, could be in with a chance. However she wavered over whether or not to resign over Theresa May’s Brexit deal, and her decision not to do so could mar her popularity with hard Brexit supporters.

Andrea Leadsom, who stood against Mrs May last time around, also has a shot. She is thought to be the ringleader of the cabinet ministers attempting to alter the PM’s Brexit strategy from the inside

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Who’s destroying England and Western Europe?

by Jon Rappoport
Dec 11, 2018

In the run-up to the Brexit vote in 2016, immigration came to the fore as the key issue. But of course, the European Union has a policy of opening borders of all member countries.

The EU wants one continent, no separate countries—and the way to achieve that is by creating a massive flood of migrants. Destroy traditions and cultures that define countries. In the process, accept terrorism as “inevitable.” Don’t talk or write about the actual effects of immigration. That would be “hate speech.” Keep eyes and mouth shut, and march straight ahead into a future of one European continent ruled from above by the EU.

Ever since the UK vote to leave the unelected, terminally corrupt, and rotting edifice known as the European Union, stall tactics and threats have been launched at Brits.

First it was, “It’s going to take a long time to untangle the UK from the EU, it’s very complicated.” Actually, that tactic was predated by Prince Obama traveling to England to warn the population they’d stand at the back of the line in forming separate trade deals with the US, if they left the EU. It’s called interfering in the political affairs of another nation. Now it’s the EU and Queen Merkel beating the UK to the punch by plotting trade deals with India and China, in order to leave the British out in the cold.

But the basic question is, Is Britain a nation? Does it exist? It’s a question citizens are supposed to answer. Not Merkel, Obama, or the EU.

This issue, in case it’s unclear, is all about Globalism. According to that totalitarian political philosophy, of which the EU is a standard bearer, there are no nations. There are only mega-corporations and banks.

As the departed guru of the Rockefeller Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew Brzezinski, wrote in 1969,

“[The] nation state as a fundamental unit of man’s organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force. International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation state.”

This is not only a political and economic statement, it’s a prescriptive piece of psychological advice: Stop thinking of yourself as a citizen of a country; you’re a global citizen; you exist and function at the pleasure of a new collaborative international order.

And the new order will triumph. Bow your heads and accept it.

Unless people get up on their hind legs and say no, which is what happened in the 2016 Brexit vote.

Defection. Decentralization. Independence.

Hideous words to the ears of Globalists.

Their basic strategy, since the end of World War 2, has been to spin a highly complex network of political and economic relationships, from one end of the world to the other—a labyrinth—from which escape is seen as virtually impossible.

Trade deals like USMCA, NAFTA, CAFTA, and GATT are only part of this system. The EU itself keeps churning out thousands of rules, regulations, and laws.

Build the maze; put national governments and populations in the maze.

Then more or less claim the planet would collapse without the maze.

Last year, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker issued a “maze statement” to President Trump after Trump rejected the Globalist Paris Climate (non-) Treaty:

“Europe’s duty is to say: it’s not like that. The Americans can’t just leave the climate protection agreement. Mr. Trump believes that [he can] because he doesn’t know the details…We tried to explain that to Mr. Trump [at the G7 Summit] in Taormina [Sicily, Italy] in clear German sentences. It seems that our attempt failed, but the law is the law, and it must be obeyed. Not everything which is law and not everything in international agreements is fake news, and we have to comply with it.”

Supremely arrogant, Juncker was winging it and writing his own script, because, in fact, the US didn’t sign on to a treaty in Paris. Obama tried to unilaterally bind the US to the climate pact, when a two-third’s vote by the US Senate is actually required for such international agreements. And no Senate vote was taken.
But this is the EU’s preemptive attitude toward defection, decentralization, and independence.

In the case of Brexit, climate change wasn’t the issue. Immigration was. The EU tried its best to chastise England for daring to insist unlimited numbers of migrants might be too many. “You’re in the maze, stay in the maze.”

And there is another vector of attack being launched at England: reminders the nation is evil for its colonial practices, which can never, ever be erased. But the covert leaders in that propaganda effort, the EU and its Globalist bosses, feel entitled in their own attempt to colonize the whole planet. “Your colonizing was bad, ours is good.”

With an annual budget in the vicinity of $100 billion, the EU is intractably corrupt and incompetent. It’s estimated that $5 billion a year is stolen from that budget. As for the other $95 billion, what is it for? Nations can govern themselves. The EU could disappear tomorrow and no one would catch a cold. The entire bloated structure, employing between 30 and 50 thousand people (depending on how far the count is extended) is a vast boondoggle.

It’s astonishing that anyone in the UK would feel a sense of loyalty to the EU.

There is nothing strange about Brexit at all. It’s a natural reaction: One day, a house pet goes outside and wanders off into the woods and never comes back. Who is really surprised?

The “system” called the EU insists that terrorism is somehow a price the British people must pay for entering “a better future for all.” Don’t ask what that future looks like. Don’t think about it. The UK doesn’t have the right to set its own immigration policy.

The chaos and destruction that result from open borders are simply an “adjustment period,” after which things will settle down. A new and better England and Europe will emerge. Diversity will triumph. How? Don’t worry about that, be happy.

You see, diversity is a high-minded principle, and by definition it implies a more humane society. Therefore, there is no counter-evidence. Facts are unimportant.

However, Britain is free to set its own policy.

To do so, politically correct speech will have to be jettisoned. Facts will have to be widely expressed. Lies will have to be widely exposed.

The EU will need to be named as a driving force in immigration, and the results of migration will need to be laid at its door.

The EU sees immigrant terrorism as its ticket to greater control over Europe.

Leaving the EU means LEAVING the EU.

How long before leaving means LEAVING?

How long before the British people realize that the flood of migrants is not simply “a refugee crisis” created by the US and its allies, whose imperialist policies of Empire and wars in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa, initiate “blowback?”

How long before they see numbers of these “refugees” are just military-age young men who arrive with destruction on their minds?

How long before they see England is riddled with EU agents who are “forwarding a humane immigration policy,” come hell or high water?

One continent, under no liberty and no justice, with suffering and slavery for all.

How long before they leave THAT?


Jon Rappoport

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Posted by avid (here)
This travesty of justice and democracy is blatantly obvious, defer, defer, defer until folk are exhausted. The globalist’s agenda is being perpetrated, just as Ireland’s negation of the vote on the Lisbon Treaty was refuted until they ‘re-voted’ in capitulation. Major corporate blackmail involved.
Here we are again - surely we can rise above this, and not be ‘railroaded’ by the globalist agenda? The sufferage will be ‘cutting the UK off’ from import/export, literally isolation from healthcare/fuel/food as penalty for independence, however, we got past this before, just a pity we let go of our national structures years ago to the EU, so a hard slog ahead. Is ‘evil’ in control? Never in my thoughts, but such fortitude and positivity is necessary. So disappointed in the UK ‘bought and paid for’ government.

When did it get acceptable for politics to use trade as a weapon in a political argument?

Why does anyone believe these threats have any reality?

Once we are a third country the EU would be an aggressor using trade to damage an economy.

Since when did that kind of behaviour become normal? Threatening that against a rogue nuclear state is not even tolerated.

[happyuk]

I expect that the European Commission are currently feeling smug.

They might however reflect that if Theresa May is not confirmed in place tonight then in a little while they may be facing Boris Johnson across the table, or some minister they once snubbed and humiliated.

Faced with that prospect, there might be a concession they can come up with to save Mrs May, their precious deal, and the millions of pounds of British taxpayers' money they have been hoping to get their hands on.

The bookmakers, who tend to be better at predicting things than that politicized clown Mark Carney and his hysterical forecasts, have Dom Raab as the odds-on favourite. I really do believe it his time to save us from this madness and to steer the country towards a no-deal Brexit in March.

As someone once said: there is no alternative!

[norman]

A No-Deal exit is only a temporary thing anyway. From the very day they wake up after we are out, the heads of corporations like Mercedes and BMW will be kicking a lot of ass, to make the EU talk sense, or completely collapse.


In reality, the EU needs us more than we need them. Until we are out, they will ignore that and play the "we are bigger than you" game. After we are out . . .that's when the real discussions begin.

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Confidence vote: majority of Tory MPs publicly back May

In the hours since the announcement that a Conservative leadership contest had been triggered, 160 Tory MPs have declared their support for Theresa May on Twitter. That would put her past the 158 of 315 MPs she needs to survive – although, because the ballot is secret, there is no way to know how many of them are telling the truth.

Forty-eight letters against her were required to trigger the contest and at least four MPs have publicly said they would not support her in the vote.

May’s most implacable opponents within the party will frame any number of votes against her above 80 as cause to consider her position. But the prime minister’s camp has been briefing that a simple majority would be enough to renew her mandate as leader.

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On Thursday afternoon it was reported that two suspended MPs had had the whip restored in advance of the vote – prompting speculation that the party’s private numbers were falling short of the public declarations of support.

Charlie Elphicke was suspended over alleged sexual offences, which he denies, while Andrew Griffiths was suspended for sending 2,000 sexually explicit texts to two much younger women over the course of three weeks.

Every MP in the Cabinet has issued a message of support for the Prime Minister, along with senior Tories on the back benches.
Table of MP's voting intentions

But some backbenchers questioned the reliability of those claims given the way the vote works. Brexiteer Andrea Jenkyns, who submitted one of the letters calling for a no confidence vote, told BBC Radio 4’s World At One: “What they say publicly is different to what they do because it’s a secret ballot.

“I have had people who I know very well - friends and colleagues - who have said ‘publicly they will say this’, but it has come to the stage where we need a new leader.”

She claimed there were “about six” ministers who had told her they would vote Mrs May out.

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"It aint over till the fat lady sings"
Ch

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Europe Is Losing Patience With Theresa May's Brexit Chaos

Bloomberg Alan Crawford,Bloomberg 9 hours ago

(Bloomberg) -- Follow @Brexit on Twitter, join our Facebook group and sign up to our Brexit Bulletin.

Last Friday in Hamburg, members of German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s party took time out from their annual convention for drinks with a handful of British Conservative lawmakers who were there as observers.

The mood was somber as the Christian Democrats helped “the last of the rational ones” among their U.K. colleagues take leave of Europe, according to Elmar Brok, a veteran German member of the European Parliament. “It’s one big tragedy,” said Brok, who attests that tears were shed during the evening’s wake for Brexit Britain.

Prime Minister Theresa May faces a vote of confidence in her leadership on Wednesday with Parliament riven over her Brexit deal, but the countdown continues regardless to March 29 -- the date the divorce takes effect. The U.K.’s imminent departure from the European Union is a source of regret from Brussels to Berlin, matched by feelings of bemusement, and annoyance, that it’s happening at all.

“Brexit in chaos,” ran Tuesday’s front-page headline in Italy’s Corriere della Sera after May postponed the parliamentary vote on the withdrawal deal. “May in desperation,” said Spain’s El Mundo. “Scolded. Laughed at. Done with governing?” was Dutch newspaper Volkskrant’s take.

The prime minister’s whirlwind tour of European capitals in a last-ditch bid to wring more concessions adds to the bemusement. EU leaders preparing to meet for the last summit of the year on Thursday have made it abundantly clear the deal negotiated by Michel Barnier will not be unpicked. The danger for the U.K. is that, deal or no deal, the damage to Britain’s international reputation is done.

“The dismal Brexit drama refuses to end,” wrote Der Spiegel’s deputy foreign editor, Mathieu von Rohr. The vote now looks likely for January, but with the EU refusing to negotiate afresh, “it’s unclear what should change by then,” he said. “British politics has become alarmingly chaotic -- and this chaos can infect all Europe.”

EU leaders have consistently said they regret the U.K. decision but that life outside the bloc cannot be as cosy and preferential as inside. And while Merkel is not unsympathetic to May’s plight, the chancellor made her views on Brexit protocol clear to the prime minister back in July 2016. The British premier traveled to Berlin shortly after assuming office, only to be politely told that no bilateral negotiations would take place, “formally or informally.”

Follow all the day’s developments as they happen in our rolling live blog

Fast forward, and Britain’s position is even more confused than ever. Amid the uncertainty, workers are voting with their feet: Financial companies are relocating jobs to Europe, and Britain’s economy is 0.7 percent smaller than it would have been without the focus on Brexit, according to Bloomberg economists Dan Hanson and Jamie Murray.

The Bank of England was panned for outlining a scenario for a no-deal Brexit that included a plunge in property prices of almost a third and the pound losing a quarter of its value within a year. And yet May warned on Monday that the odds of Britain crashing out of the EU without a deal had risen.

Marriages are meanwhile reportedly breaking up over Brexit, EU nationals in the U.K. are being given conflicting signals about their future status, and British citizens are taking up dual nationality in record numbers. Northern Ireland and Scotland -- where a majority voted to stay -- remain volatile with the potential to plunge the U.K. into a full-blown constitutional crisis.

The worry for Europe is that some of the anti-EU sentiment underpinning the initial British vote to leave is showing up in other nations. But that is not enough for countries to step in now and offer May substantially different terms; if anything, it acts as a counterweight to ensure they hold firm.

How did we get to this point? There are as many answers as possible Brexit outcomes: Decades of tabloid smears directed at the EU; the gulf between an urban elite and life in Britain’s hard-pressed regions; a surge in immigration after the Blair government’s decision to allow citizens of the 10 mainly eastern European countries that joined the EU in 2004 to work in Britain. A desire among voters to take back control over lawmaking from distant politicians in Brussels.

‘Wrong question’

Then there was David Cameron’s gamble that a referendum on Britain’s EU membership would resolve his internal Conservative Party dilemma on Europe, a device he had used successfully -- just -- to put Scotland’s quest for independence to the test in 2014.

According to Matt Qvortrup, a professor of comparative European politics at Coventry University who has written widely on referendums, “Brexit was an answer to the wrong question.” Rather than being solely about the EU, it was a test of voter trust in politicians more generally, and so provided “an opportunity to give them a kicking.”

May and her rotating cabinet door of ministers have struggled to give meaning to the referendum result in the thick of “a misunderstanding that people deliberately don’t want to address, which to quote Vladimir Putin, is that Britain is now a small island off Europe,” said Qvortrup. “Britannia does not quite rule the waves any more, but that’s the perception.”

Many Germans still feel close to the U.K. for all that. The countries share a northern sensibility on fiscal and industrial matters that makes them more natural partners than the likes of Spain or Italy, or even France. May’s Conservatives and Merkel’s Christian Democrats were sister parties -- until Cameron pulled the Tories out of their common EU umbrella group, the European People’s Party.

Just ask David McAllister, who served as prime minister of Lower Saxony from 2010 to 2013, the German state with the greatest affinity for all things British. It is the source of the Saxon in Anglo-Saxon; the region that was the main base for Britain’s post-World War II occupation forces; and is the ancestral Hanoverian homeland of the British Royal family.

“It’s a historic mistake,” said McAllister, the son of a German mother and a Scot attached to the British military, who holds dual German-British nationality. “What we have to make clear to the British is there’s no appetite at all to renegotiate the withdrawal agreement. That’s something a lot of British colleagues from the House of Commons still aren’t believing.”

Britain is “making itself small,” said McAllister, who now heads the EU Parliament’s foreign affairs committee. “It’s one of the few decisions in my political life which actually makes me really sad.”

--With assistance from Tony Czuczka, Arne Delfs, John Follain, Joost Akkermans and Rodrigo Orihuela.

To contact the reporter on this story: Alan Crawford in Berlin at acrawford6@bloomberg.net

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Rosalind Mathieson at rmathieson3@bloomberg.net, Bruce Douglas

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[avid]

PROCRASTINATION STUFFS A NATION..... surprise surprise

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Teresa May has won the vote
200 for 117 against.
Chris