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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by kevin Moore (here)
    I think mark has a portal to walk through and talk to Prince Nagadraconis of the reptoids

    no you've been misled. that portal stuff is nonsense.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    oh darn thanks for spoiling it Mike

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

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    oh darn thanks for spoiling it Mike

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    What good are all these works of fiction and all the second hand information when there is still so little genuine documentation and first hand testimony being presented in a format that can be easily accessed?
    If the documentary doesn't come out for months yet, all the childish nastiness, sarcasm, arguing and name calling does no credit to anyone at all and rather than making more people wanting to get to the truth, I wouldn't be surprised if more and more just lose interest out of sheer disgust.
    Professionalism in journalism has never gone out of style, and hopefully never will, though current trends seem to deny that.
    That means remaining detached, objective and emphasizing the provable facts, not ranting and raving and going off on each other, such as we see in the network news wars on the MSM.
    Alternative media is supposed to be better than that.
    This whole issue, like the Corey Goode show, is getting to be like the Entertainment Tonight of alternative media, not much better than celebrity gossip.
    I commend Bill for opting to stay out of it.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    There's nothing like good old direct, incontrovertible common sense.
    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)

    Lets turn this thread into something really useful. Let's all look at the facts of the case on the guilt of Mark Richards together, without malice. Let's look at each of his claims and lets match them up to the facts. No other side drama, no diversion no negativity. Who knows, you may be able to convince us we are wrong, maybe you have documented facts we know nothing about. I think you could gain a lot of respect if you were willing to do this. Let the facts lead us, not preconceived notions or desired outcomes. There is nothing wrong with admitting you made a mistake or made an inaccurate assessment, we all do that. I hold people in high esteem when they have the humility to admit they were wrong. If you prove we are wrong, I will admit to it.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    I can't believe what I read from naive Americans or other nationalities. Evidence can be craeted or erased. Too much credit on American courts here. You can obtain false testimonies with threat and bribe, it is certain.
    Love and Hope

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    I forced myself, out of sheer morbid curiosity, to read all of the posts on this thread to this point. Morbid curiosity may cause me to continue to read more, but after this I will not post again.

    At a certain level the posts on this thread made for interesting reading. Unfortunately, the one-ups-man-ship by some disintegrated into mudslinging.

    The more I read and pondered what is being said and what is happening on this thread, the less I cared about any of this hoopla surrounding Mark Richards. (To be candid, I did not care from the beginning because, based upon what I have read seen and heard about him, I would not believe a word he has to say.)

    I also found myself becoming mildly repulsed by the whole affair going down here. I'm referring to the topic of Mark Richards and his involvement in murder, and not individuals. With a few exceptions, and I think we know who they are, most posts are not showing the best side of the poster.

    A documentary on Mark Richards? Interviews and write ups on Mark Richards. What a colossal waste of time, effort and money. "SSP Mark Richards." Yeah, right.

    Oh, by the way, before I go I should tell you that I invented the Internet. Really I did.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Your very patient at times Bill.
    Good on you.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by The Crimson Horse Blanket (here)
    I have a question Bill, if you don't mind?

    The private messages between yourself and Geoff, that Geoff has referred to, if they were to be posted for all to see, who would come out of this saga having been 100% truthful as to what was written........ Yourself or Geoff?

    Many thanks.
    Myself. Of course (if I may say that). I'll post them here below.

    (As I explained earlier, I can post my own PMs. It's just that no-one else can, with anyone's PMs, as that's a slippery violation-of-privacy slope that has no end.)

    Here they are. You'll see that Joe from the Carolinas was copied on the last two. Dates and times (US Central time) are shown. In each screenshot, I redacted Geoff's quoted PMs to me (to which I was replying each time), but they were quite innocuous. It's just the strict principle I'm following here.





    Bill you and I both know these posts have been edited. If you would be so kind to post all 8 of them without your censorship kind sir it would be much appreciated and show truthful transparency. Many thanks kind sir.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    I forced myself, out of sheer morbid curiosity, to read all of the posts on this thread to this point. Morbid curiosity may cause me to continue to read more, but after this I will not post again.

    At a certain level the posts on this thread made for interesting reading. Unfortunately, the one-ups-man-ship by some disintegrated into mudslinging.

    The more I read and pondered what is being said and what is happening on this thread, the less I cared about any of this hoopla surrounding Mark Richards. (To be candid, I did not care from the beginning because, based upon what I have read seen and heard about him, I would not believe a word he has to say.)

    I also found myself becoming mildly repulsed by the whole affair going down here. I'm referring to the topic of Mark Richards and his involvement in murder, and not individuals. With a few exceptions, and I think we know who they are, most posts are not showing the best side of the poster.

    A documentary on Mark Richards? Interviews and write ups on Mark Richards. What a colossal waste of time, effort and money. "SSP Mark Richards." Yeah, right.

    Oh, by the way, before I go I should tell you that I invented the Internet. Really I did.
    Hay Satori you donít need to worry about mark Ė Im not this is for Mr Baldwin his murder victim

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by Tangri (here)
    I can't believe what I read from naive Americans or other nationalities. Evidence can be craeted or erased. Too much credit on American courts here. You can obtain false testimonies with threat and bribe, it is certain.
    Dude don't worry I have spoken to the murder victims family and the cops who arrested mark and no court information or obtain false testimonies were created or changed - all is well no conspiracies here please.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Satori this is for the murder victim Richard Baldwin and I agree after people watch the documentary it will show what crazy people with life sentences can do - I mean dam I cant blame Mark - but also look at the hosts (new age cult leaders) who cover such bat **** crazy stuff and promote it as being real to there audiences - OMG

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by geofffxdwg (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    In each screenshot, I redacted Geoff's quoted PMs to me (to which I was replying each time), but they were quite innocuous. It's just the strict principle I'm following here.
    Bill you and I both know these posts have been edited.
    The whole world (well, those reading here) knows that Bill edited those screenshots, because Bill says he did so, to redact your quoted PM's, in accordance with the strict principle he is following here, and that we follow in general on the forum.

    Whether or not Bill did any other sort of editing, I don't know, but I'd highly doubt it, as Bill, in my considerable experience, is a man of his word and quite accurate in these and other such matters.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    He is being deceptive. You did not see our actual conversations so how would even you know?. Bill will not allow anyone to see our actual comments either. Have you ever bothered to ask yourselves why is this? Yet you go on defending him over messages most of you have never seen. Bill Ryan's word is a credible as Kerry Cassidy's word. He has proven that right here and right now. Project Avalon is a joke. Most of Its members are real people with good hearts and good intentions but the way Bill has put the spin on this thread is disgusting. The way he uses people in his polite manner is also disgusting. Good bye and good riddance. Have a nice day now you Avalonians. "Bill, in my considerable experience, is a man of his word and quite accurate in these and other such matters" That is laughable if this were not such a serious matter. Bill Ryan has shown me his true colors and he knows it and I know it. He has killed this thread as well. Bill has edited out all the important points of our messages. Ask yourselves is this a person trying to get to the truth here or is this a person clearly spinning the truth here. Now he has taken a vow of silence. He says he will answer questions but his answers are clearly deceptive.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by geofffxdwg (here)
    He is being deceptive. You did not see our actual conversations so how would even you know?. Bill will not allow anyone to see our actual comments either.
    Here they are. I miscounted... there were 6 PMs I sent you. Earlier, I'd found 4. I'd omitted the 3rd one below, because it was trivial.

    These are the other 3. I've now posted all 6 publicly. If there are others I've missed, let me know the dates, and I'll post them.

    I redacted your own messages to me (when there were any). The dates and times are shown.

    No text has been edited.






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    He is being deceptive. You did not see our actual conversations so how would even you know?. Bill will not allow anyone to see our actual comments either. Have you ever bothered to ask yourselves why is this? Yet you go on defending him over messages most of you have never seen. Bill Ryan's word is a credible as Kerry Cassidy's word. He has proven that right here and right now. Project Avalon is a joke. Most of Its members are real people with good hearts and good intentions but the way Bill has put the spin on this thread is disgusting. The way he uses people in his polite manner is also disgusting. Good bye and good riddance. Have a nice day now you Avalonians. "Bill, in my considerable experience, is a man of his word and quite accurate in these and other such matters" That is laughable if this were not such a serious matter. Bill Ryan has shown me his true colors and he knows it and I know it. He has killed this thread as well. Bill has edited out all the important points of our messages. Ask yourselves is this a person trying to get to the truth here or is this a person clearly spinning the truth here. Now he has taken a vow of silence. He says he will answer questions but his answers are clearly deceptive.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Update from Simon Parks on the Kerry Cassidy, Kevin Moore and Mark Richards thang.
    @ 3:29 - "I have to say something about the situation with Kevin Moore and Kerry Cassidy and the Mark Richards situation. Iíve done my best to lay out what my position is. I thought initially I had been quite clear, but obviously I hadnít. So I've done on my my site in reply to my post I've really tried to be clear that I have no interest in the subject in the moment. There are so many other things which are far more important. And this isn't a disrespect to to either investigators but to me it's a matter that they can get on with. They can get on with and argue with each other and I really do have other things to involve myself in..."

    "Öbut obviously in relation to the situation though, I've said it's up to them. My information was very peripheral, and I do believe that I was drawn into it. And I donít really want to be in that. That's my position. Iíve made it crystal clear, so that's where we are with that."


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    Quote Posted by runningdeer (here)
    update from simon parks on the kerry cassidy, kevin moore and mark richards thang.
    @ 3:29 - "i have to say something about the situation with kevin moore and kerry cassidy and the mark richards situation. Iíve done my best to lay out what my position is. I thought initially i had been quite clear, but obviously i hadnít. So i've done on my my site in reply to my post i've really tried to be clear that i have no interest in the subject in the moment. There are so many other things which are far more important. And this isn't a disrespect to to either investigators but to me it's a matter that they can get on with. They can get on with and argue with each other and i really do have other things to involve myself in..."

    "Öbut obviously in relation to the situation though, i've said it's up to them. My information was very peripheral, and i do believe that i was drawn into it. And i donít really want to be in that. That's my position. Iíve made it crystal clear, so that's where we are with that."


    i don't get this - i need to have an interview with simon in person

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by kevin Moore (here)
    i don't get this - i need to have an interview with simon in person
    Kevin, itíd be helpful for you to view the entire thread. For now, the posts specifically related to Simon Parks begin here: post #160 to approximately post #166.

    Side note: refresh your page every now and again so you can see the new posts added.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Update from Simon Parks on the Kerry Cassidy, Kevin Moore and Mark Richards thang.
    @ 3:29 - "I have to say something about the situation with Kevin Moore and Kerry Cassidy and the Mark Richards situation. Iíve done my best to lay out what my position is. I thought initially I had been quite clear, but obviously I hadnít. So I've done on my my site in reply to my post I've really tried to be clear that I have no interest in the subject in the moment. There are so many other things which are far more important. And this isn't a disrespect to to either investigators but to me it's a matter that they can get on with. They can get on with and argue with each other and I really do have other things to involve myself in..."

    "Öbut obviously in relation to the situation though, I've said it's up to them. My information was very peripheral, and I do believe that I was drawn into it. And I donít really want to be in that. That's my position. Iíve made it crystal clear, so that's where we are with that."


    Did he not inject himself into this saga as one of Kerry's 'back-channel' info sources? His clandestine meet with a highly-placed source over a coffee, (actually, Simon had hot-chocolate and in telling us so gives yet another 'tell' about his highly deceptive statement) who told him about Richards's name being mentioned by powerful people, (and then handily advises us on some in-the-field spy craft - being, never meet in the same place......... Really? Where'd you get that one, Spy Craft 101 For Dummies), and yet again another deceptive statement.

    For anyone who is un-aware, Peter Hyatt is an expert in Statement Analysis. Used by law-enforcement agencies and myriad professions to detect un-truths and downright lies by analysing a suspects own words. It is a really interesting subject, you can find-out a whole lot more here:

    http://www.hyattanalysis.com/blog/

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