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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    A snip from the above SkyMatters link I have provided states, in part:
    ELLIS RICHARDS, SR. / BERT SPARKS TAYLOR

    ..."We are first introduced to Mark’s grandfather, Ellis Richards, Sr. The 2009 conference notes state:

    Ellis Loyd Richards, Sr., was a brilliant electronics engineer, and authored books on the subject. He worked with Tesla and on the Manhattan Project and the Philadelphia Experiment. He was a superintendent of Coyne Electrical Institute. He was also a leading expert in the early push for space flight. He worked at several think-tanks that conducted ‘underground’ research for the US. He invented the Richards Anti-Matter (RAM) Drive in the late '30s.

    The 1930 Census Records document that Mr. Richards was a school superintendent and other material establishes that he worked at Coyne Electrical Institute (now called Coyne College). The college specializes in practical training in electrical systems. Today it offers programs in electrical systems and electrical construction and maintenance, as it appears to have done when Mr. Richards was there.

    Mr. Richards wrote Diesel Engines and Diesel Electric Power, "a complete practical book of instruction on diesel engines, their construction, principles, operation, care and adjustment." (Chicago, F.J. Drake & Co., 1939.) No other title is listed in the world catalog of libraries (Melvyl). The cover page is shown on google books - although difficult to read it appears that his affiliations included the Electrical Association.

    The public record indicates that Richards’s work was directed toward practical applications. He obtained no patents. I have not found any records showing that he was a leading expert on space flight or worked with Tesla. It might be said that if he was inventing anti-matter drives, then his work would have been kept secret, but much of the work of Tesla and other researchers is well known. Thomas Townsend Brown's research on anti-gravity, for instance, was very public and he obtained a number of patents. In contrast, the EDH claims about Mr. Richards stand alone..."

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    One more snip (very interesting):

    ..."The length of the deliberations in the Richards case indicates that the verdict was a close one. Yet, there was little question that Mark was involved with the crime – the only issue at trial was whether he was the mastermind or an accessory who tried to cover up the crime. There is a substantial difference between the two in legal terms, but neither one squares with Mark's claim of having been a high level operative – the type of character, skills, knowledge, and connections that the latter would possess is at odds with the events surrounding the Baldwin murder. At the very least, his defense at the time is not consistent with the current claim that he had nothing to do with the crime.

    During the time frame that includes Mark's "most intense" covert activity, the public record indicates that he lived a relatively normal life. He attended college in 1976, got married a few years later, and worked to establish a business – although his writings and his hopes for a school of future studies suggests a number of interests with an imaginative streak.

    The newspapers at the time were very interested in learning about Richards and investigating his background. There was apparently no suggestion that he had lived a double life or that there had been unexplained absences. Some might say that since Mark was deep into secret covert operations, his story remained hidden, yet there are things that now could be documented. For instance, Jo Ann Richards states that Mark has several degrees in history, science, and quantum physics. (Cassidy Interview, 2012.) That could easily be substantiated.

    If Richards joined the army after high school, served as a lieutenant in Viet Nam and an officer in the Navy, that is a matter of record that might have been used at trial or could be documented now. I have not been able to find any veterans records substantiating his claim.

    Jo Ann Richards states that both Mark and Ellis Richards were part of the USAF Space Command. (Cassidy Interview, 2012; EDH Dulce Report.) The Command was not activated until 1982, after the events in question. She states that Richards was convicted even though he was somewhere else at the time of the crime, yet that alibi was not presented at trial. Did Mark allege in the state post-conviction proceedings that there was any other evidence?..."

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    From the Legal Studies Forum:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200512180...incamelot.html

    The SkyMatters website states the above written piece may be THE most complete coverage of the murder trial ever written.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    One more write up from Murderpedia (excellent) re the Mark Richards case:

    http://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hoov...ssan-david.htm

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Snip (last one) from Murderpedia website:

    ..."Mark Richards was also interviewed by the police shortly after the arrest. He denied any involvement in the murder of his good friend Baldwin and offered an account of his whereabouts on July 6 that did not ring true. The two boys arrested with him were his employees, he told Sheriffs Sergeant Richard Keaton, and then startled his questioner by adding: "The poor kids -- I mean, I should take the fall for this, not them. OK? You know, like if somebody is trying to go down [take the blame] for anything."

    Keaton asked, "Why should you take a fall?"

    "Well, you know." answered Richards, sinking further into the morass of his own words and uncertain whether it was better to incriminate the boys or to defend them, "I understand what it must look like. OK? And all I'm saying is these are kids. You know, they don't have -- they wouldn't have had anything to do with anything like this. Dick didn't owe them any money or anything like that."

    After waiting patiently for the strange monologue to run its course, Keaton confronted Richards with evidence that he had used Baldwin's credit-cards and burglarized his home. Richards admitted both allegations, explaining that the car-dealer owed him money; he had used the credit-cards with Baldwin's approval in reduction of the debt. He could not plead the dead man's consent to the burglary, but apparently hoped that the detective would regard the break-in as a frustrated creditor's last resort. Still, once it was clear to him that he could not deny possession of some of the fruits of the crime, Richards backed away from his earlier "protective" attitude towards his young employees; he told Keaton that Crossie Hoover had confessed to him the murder of Baldwin.

    These first statements taken from the suspects might have indicated that the killer or killers of the classic-car dealer had acted from routine theft motives. However, a police inspection of Mark Richards's house added a whole new dimension to the case. On July 22 the Marin Independent Journal reported the results of the search under a towering headline, "BIZARRE PLOT FOR MARIN COUP?"


    One has to ask, why on earth Richards, if he was 'off planet' during this crime, would have had possession of the victim's credit cards? HE USED THEM and fully owns up to this during his questioning!

    I would beg anyone who views Mark Richards as some sort of secret space war hero to PLEASE review the court records and any and all testimony during the trial and ask yourself if you, then, really truly believe this man is anything more than a sociopath.

    He was NOT off planet at the time of this murder. HE. WAS.THERE. Mark Richards planned Richard A. Baldwin's murder. Richards was deeply in debt, as the California state forensics detective testified, during the trial. This detective (you can find his name and what he stated in the court documents)...he stated that financial records of Mark Richards were obtained by police detectives which showed absolutely the dire straits of Richards' finances at the time of this murder.

    In my opinion, after reading thoroughly ALL of the documents provided by the SkyMatters website, Mark Richards is a true sociopath. He is a monster. ANYONE who would believe Richards' preposterous story...is being played.

    There are REAL people who have lost their lives and/or have had their lives and the lives of their family members ruined beyond measure because of various elements involved with this entire alien/human issue. It is appalling to see someone such as this Mark Richards fellow be propped up on some sort of pedestal as a hero when nothing, nothing, nothing could be further from the truth.

    I can almost guarantee that those of whom truly are involved in a deep manner with black ops issues regarding this phenomenon are NOT talking to the public.

    There is an interview of a former Brigadier General who gives testimony about this government coverup re the alien/human issue (Greer interviewed him). Cannot remember his name -- but you can find it under the Sirius channel at YouTube. No matter what one may think about Greer, he does interview some decent, TRUTHFUL individuals (William Pawelek for one).

    There is so much hogwash melded in with truth regarding this phenomenon that it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. But again, I would implore anyone who may have heard about the Mark Richards tale to use your discernment (and common sense) when reviewing the materials proffered on this thread.

    It sickens me to no end that anyone would prop this man up as some sort of hero.

    Mark Richards is right where he should be - IN PRISON. I feel for Richard A. Baldwin's family having to witness the story telling regarding the man who conspired to murder a beloved family member. They don't deserve this. THEY are the victims here, NOT Mark Richards.
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    @Geoff

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    More snips (can't help myself):

    When reading thru the below, please consider the following:

    SEVERAL individuals came forward and spoke to the police about Mark Richards' strange behavior leading up to the murder of Mr. Baldwin, including the mother of a Novato youth who had previously worked for Richards, but then left Richards' business because Richards was acting in a bizarre fashion.

    This mother spoke to the newspaper, the Independent Journal, about this issue. There were several young men who spoke to the police department about Richards' bizarre behavior AND that Richards had approached several young men about murdering Mr. Baldwin (with promises of financial gain, etc., should they participate).

    The security guard who stopped Richards and two of the young men at the marina (with the dead man's body in their boat secured to the truck that Richards had just purchased the day after the murder), testified under oath, during the trial.

    So what is Ms. Cassidy suggesting - that ALL of these individuals worked for the CIA as part of the big cover-up?

    Please. Give me a break...


    ..."In the weeks that followed, a number of witnesses came forward with stories indicating that the Pendragon group in fact existed. Crossie Hoover told investigators that one of the inducements to the murder was Richard's promise to appoint him Duke of Angel's Island.

    The mother of a Novato youth informed the Independent Journal that her son had left the group a month before because Mark Richards "was getting really weird." Another person close to Richards told the newspaper that Mark was fascinated with medieval history and talked about taking over all of California -- a dream that did not prevent his friend from describing him as "enthusiastic and not at all sinister."

    The Independent Journal also learned of Richards's plans in 1977 to lease the San Francisco Theological Seminary building for use as a school to study the future. According to a proposed catalogue, the school, called Futurecastle, would be an "innovative academic community dedicated to the origins of a new renaissance." The ambitious project, which was to provide a faculty including actor William Shatner and writer-producer George Lucas, came to nothing when the seminary cancelled the lease for nonpayment of rent.

    In a court affidavit, another teenage employee of Richards, Pete Neal, disclosed that Hoover was not the only person Richards had solicited to murder Baldwin. Neal stated that in late May Richards had offered him a dune-buggy and $1000 as a reward for disposing of the car dealer. Another young man told the Independent Journal that he had attended a Pendragon conclave some months ago but found it "too far fetched" to take seriously. He had been invited to the four-hour meeting by a friend who had reportedly been paid $500 by Richards to recruit Pendragon members..."

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    SNIP:

    ..."The crime had been planned months in advance, and Andrew was to receive $2000 to stay at the Baldwin house while the murder was in progress. The young witness had trouble recalling times and dates, testifying that the three confederates had bought a boat a few days after the killing; the purchase was in fact made on the evening of the murder.

    Andrew recalled more clearly the trio's misadventures in disposing of the body; Richards, Hoover and he had put the boat in the water at the Loch Lomond Marina in San Rafael and returned to Baldwin's shop, where the body was hidden under a car. After they had brought the corpse back to the boat in a pickup truck, their troubles had begun.

    The boat engine had stalled several times as they headed out into the bay, and they had been forced to drop the body closer to shore than planned. A carton of weights intended to sink the corpse to the bottom of the bay had broken the rope binding it to the body, so the small outboard motor had been substituted. Asked by Richards's attorney Shapiro whether he had ever considered going to the police prior to the murder with a report of Richards's plot against Baldwin, young Andrew seemed offended by the notion: "We weren't going to turn Mark in just because he was talking about killing somebody."

    Judge Gary Thomas was satisfied by the evidence offered at the hearing and ordered that Richards be committed for trial..."

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Last, but not least, the following:

    Taken from the SkyMatters website:

    SkyMatters states:

    ..."It has been noted that both Ellis and Mark Richards are enshrined in the Wall of Honor at the National Air and Space Museum. There is no doubt that Major Richards was a pilot in at least the early stages of his career since aviation records list him as being involved with four accidents between 1943 and 1952. However, the wall includes anyone who chooses to honor themselves or another, without requiring documentation, as long as a financial contribution is made to the museum. No special credence can be ascribed to this.

    The National Reconnaissance Office does not mention Ellis Richards as either a co-founder or "pioneer." I can find no independent documentation to show that he was a military liaison and a close friend of either President Kennedy or the Dalai Lama. Presumably, there would be some record of his service and perhaps even a private photograph that could be released to verify his friendships. Similarly, the 1961 trip included many activities that might be documented.

    There is no official record of the Hornet being used after it was decommissioned in 1970. It raises the question of whether any movement of a ship like this from the mothball fleet could have been conducted without attention. It can be asked if a retired major would have been given command of the earth’s defense after Admiral Nimitz died; if an “infamous” character known as the “Dutchman” with various public roles would have escaped attention; why his name is not mentioned with many of events that have been reported; and, why there is no other corroboration for the claims involving more public activity.

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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    SNIP from a "Murder In Camelot":

    ..."This introductory evidence was followed by the testimony of the prosecution's "baby-faced" star witness, Andrew. According to him, Richards had first mentioned the idea of killing Baldwin on July 1, 1982. He had told Andrew and Hoover that Baldwin owed him money, was a "Nazi" and a "faggot," and that it "would be a service to the public to get rid of such a menace." After the murder, Richards had expansively asserted that "if we made enough money, he could use some of it to buy guns for Pendragon," but Andrew was skeptical, continuing to believe that money was the motive. Richards, he testified, needed cash to save his contracting business from bankruptcy. The contractor had told his two young confederates that they might raise as much as $50,000 by selling Baldwin's property, including shop equipment and vintage cars. Andrew also described a nervous moment during the launching of the boat at the

    Loch Lomond yacht harbor: they had been noticed and questioned by a security guard, but had apparently satisfied him with their answers. When they returned to the marina with Baldwin's shrouded corpse, the guard questioned them again but let them pass. It was perhaps just as well for the guard that he had not looked more closely, for all three men were armed with pistols. Andrew stated that Richards had told him that Baldwin's classic-car collection could be sold through a Fresno automobile dealer named John Carrington...."


    As I've stated in another post, the security guard DID testify under oath during the trial.

    I realize Ms. Cassidy has a following of individuals who truly admire her work. I, too, feel she has done some remarkable research. I have listened/viewed several of her videos -- some when both she and Bill were still collaborating and those that she has done separately. Again, I feel she has done some excellent work.

    But having said this, she has completely missed the mark on this one (no pun intended). She is being played by a true sociopath. He's good. He can weave a really good yarn.

    I admire the fact that Bill has openly admitted the lack of due diligence as it is applied to the Pete Peterson testimony. It took a level of integrity to fully own up to the fact that NO due diligence was done on the part of either Kerry OR Bill prior to interviewing Pete Peterson years ago. I admire that.

    I realize I am coming down HARD on Ms. Cassidy with this Mark Richards issue. So be it. I, too, believe in compassion and forgiveness - believe me. I do. But I have a very real problem with some of these folks who profess to being some sort of super heroes in a secret space program when they've proffered NOTHING in the way of PROOF as such.

    And the fact that some very mainstream so-called researchers will place these individuals up on some sort of pedestal w/o having seen so much as a document -- ANYTHING AT ALL - within which to prove these individuals' claims, is just downright unconscionable.

    I buried very recently a true hero in my book. I cannot go public w/most of what I now know about my dad's past with some of this, but at the minimum, I can at least prove (if need be) who I am, who my dad was, where I lived, where I was born, where I grew up and where I was educated...at the minimum!

    If someone cannot prove, at the minimum, who they say they are, how on earth can you then find credibility as to ANYTHING this person states for the record?

    You can't.

    I hope that researchers in this movement will perhaps devise some sort of baseline within which certain information is provided BEFORE someone is proffered up as some sort of super hero, whistleblower.

    Some extremely credible and truthful individuals have, indeed, come forward (William Pawelek is one of them)...

    ...Mark Richards is not one of them.
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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Julian Salt a PhD Chemist, author and investigator who has been corresponding with Captain Mark Richards for the past 7 years. I have always held this interview in high regard because here we have two people who have had separate experiences with Mark Richards. Both agree he is extremely intelligent, has a military aura about him and very spiritually aware.

    At 36:00

    Kerry: He also has got a gentility about him
    Julian: He is a very nice guy
    Kerry: You know he can handle himself, you have got no doubt about that
    Julian: Totally, he would kill you in an instance
    Kerry: Yes

    Captain Mark Richards wife and daughter were murdered in the 1970´s . He also claims to have been set up by Bechtel (Nazi´s) and in the court records he referred to the victim as a Nazi. This does paint a picture of a person with motive to commit such a crime.

    However, as an experiencer I believe Mark Richards testimony should be kept separate from his personal life. At the end of the interview Julian states "I have tried to knock it, I am a scientist, but I can´t find a hole, he is for real."


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    Default Re: Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

    Quote However, as an experiencer I believe Mark Richards testimony should be kept separate from his personal life. At the end of the interview Julian states "I have tried to knock it, I am a scientist, but I can´t find a hole, he is for real."
    Sunwings wait until the documentary is released. You might have a better overview and a much clearer perspective. Any true scientist will often change their opinion or belief as new data becomes available. The data has always been there only know one could see it because people like Kerry don't want you to see it. She does not co-habitate well with free thinkers. If all you hear is the same narrative then that becomes your truth. Inmate Mark Richards's testimony is his personal life. Anyways Julian Salt was interviewed for this documentary. Just so you know. We are being honest and concerned. Your concerns will be addressed in the documentary.
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    Quote Posted by sunwings (here)
    Julian Salt a PhD Chemist, author and investigator who has been corresponding with Captain Mark Richards for the past 7 years.
    A note just for the record: that interview was done in August 2014, nearly 4 years ago. Do we know anything about Dr Julian Salt? A web page, books, background, bio? If he's an author, I've not yet been able to locate anything he's written.
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    "A jury convicted Hoover, who was 17 when the crime occurred, of killing Richard Baldwin in July 1982 while making plans for the paramilitary takeover of the county."


    What?

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    Quote A note just for the record: that interview was done in August 2014, nearly 4 years ago. Do we know anything about Dr Julian Salt? A web page, books, background, bio? If he's an author, I've not yet been able to locate anything he's written.
    Bill, Kerry suggested Kevin talk to Julian and interview him to validate her claims when they talked on the phone last month. She even sent contact information. Kevin interviewed him last week and was so impressed he wants to interview him again. Also he had a touch of food poisoning. I didn't watch Kerry's entire Julian Salt interview. I do however have a more clearer understanding of him now from what Kevin relayed to me. Julian first became introduced and interested in ufology because of Mark Richards story. In fact Julian was how Kerry first learned about Mark Richards. Julian and Kerry met at a Sacramento conference years ago. Julian had just visited Mark Richards who was incarcerated at Solano State Prison about 30 minutes away from Sacramento. Kerry said on the phone she knew about the case long before she started Camelot. I'm not bringing this up to be petty and expose every little proven lie coming from Kerry. We are also not doing a smash job specifically aimed at Kerry. All we are trying to do is keep this type of element/journalism from destroying ufology by reviving the critical thinking skills in those of us that are no longer critically thinking. Both you and Kerry helped enlightened me and many others years ago and I don't forget such things. People get off track from time to time in many different ways. Thats just human nature. We are trying to help get ufology back on track.
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    Quote Posted by geofffxdwg (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    A note just for the record: that interview was done in August 2014, nearly 4 years ago. Do we know anything about Dr Julian Salt? A web page, books, background, bio? If he's an author, I've not yet been able to locate anything he's written.
    Bill, Kerry suggested Kevin talk to Julian and interview him to validate her claims when they talked on the phone last month. She even sent contact information. Kevin interviewed him last week and was so impressed he wants to interview him again. Also he had a touch of food poisoning.

    I didn't watch Kerry's entire Julian Salt interview. I do however have a more clearer understanding of him now from what Kevin relayed to me. Julian first became introduced and interested in ufology because of Mark Richards story. In fact Julian was how Kerry first learned about Mark Richards. Julian and Kerry met at a Sacramento conference years ago. Julian had just visited Mark Richards who was incarcerated at Solano State Prison about 30 minutes away from Sacramento.

    Kerry said on the phone she knew about the case long before she started Camelot. I'm not bringing this up to be petty and expose every little proven lie coming from Kerry. We are also not doing a smash job specifically aimed at Kerry. All we are trying to do is keep this type of element/journalism from destroying ufology by reviving the critical thinking skills in those of us that are no longer critically thinking.

    Both you and Kerry helped enlightened me and many others years ago and I don't forget such things. People get off track from time to time in many different ways. Thats just human nature. We are trying to help get ufology back on track.
    Many thanks!

    (Note: I added paragraph breaks in my quote of your post to make it just a little easier to read.)

    For the record, I can confirm Kerry did know about Mark (and Jo Ann) Richards before we started Camelot. So did I, in fact. But when I was working with her, we never thought of trying to contact him.

    Jo Ann seemed to be the only, very indirect, source of info, and it all seemed too tenuous and hard to get hold of. We never gave it any thought, and had more than plenty to do anyway. My guess is that it may well be that after she heard about him also from Julian, her interest was piqued enough to go track Richards down in prison.
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    Quote @Geoff

    I'm absolutely fascinated (mind-blown) by your postings-

    and that's a good thing on my part- I figure I can always learn something new- but would it be possible for you to tell us all in some way who you really are and why/from where you have your contacts-

    I think that would interest not only me but all on Avalon-

    please stay well @Geoff and all readers!

    from...

    "Larry the Ripper" (thanks to my 2 recent hernia operations) :-)))
    I just turned 60 on July 2nd and I recently became a father. I have a 4 year old and a 2 year old daughter. I grew up in the bay area. East and north bay actually. I was born in Berkeley in 1958. My father had earned a PHD at both Stanford and UC Berkeley. He taught english logic and philosophy.

    My mother and father and two uncles grew up in San Rafael where the murder happened, My grand parents had homes there as well. My uncle was a police officer there. Most of my family history is either there or in Denmark. I didn't just appear out of nowhere. I have been a member here since 2012. I don't post much.

    I felt compelled because Kerry accused me of so many bad things. I have intimate knowledge not only of the crime but of California State prison Solano as well. I am here either looking for the truth or sharing the real truth when I have the facts and the proof. BTW I have a friend that spent 13 years at that very same prison and Mule Creek in Ione ca. "California State prison Solano" not to be confused with "California Medical Facility". It's a male-only state prison medical facility located in the city of Vacaville, Solano County, California. It is older than California State Prison, Solano, the other state prison in Vacaville. Both prisons are next door to each other.

    Jo Ann Richards had to remind Kerry to quit saying Vacaville prison when she allegedly visits Mark Richards because she is putting Mark's life in danger, because the Vacaville prison is protective custody and other inmates will kill them.

    Apparently after 7 or 8 visits to the same prison Kerry has been going to the wrong prison. I have been up there for visits more than 100 times and I know how it works and how it looks and it is not Nazi Germany as Kerry sensationalizes it to be. I have seen inmate Richards in the visiting room on several occasions. He is where he is now because he is a very evil man.

    My friend deserved to be there. Richards never spoke of SSP when he now claims it all happened but he was on an extreme pendragon crusade. The actual truth is he started writing about tyne SSP as science fiction book as a gift for his grand kids in 1997. Thank you all so much for giving me this opportunity.

    When the documentary is ready Kevin and I will post it free all over the place. Its important information that needs to be shared to help turn ufology around and not upside down. Most importantly Richard A. Baldwin was a good person and a loving father. He had many people that loved him.

    I think what bothers me the most about this, is not the small amount of money Kerry makes, but the fact that she also knows the truth and completely buries it and has turned this evil man into a saint in the eyes of her loyal fans. What kind of a person does such things?

    If her loyal followers were just as evil I could understand it a little better but they are very positive people with good hearts. It really bothers me that she is doing this to them. I certainly hope Richard Baldwin's family doesn't know anything about this.
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    For the record, I can confirm Kerry did know about Mark (and Jo Ann) Richards before we started Camelot. So did I, in fact. But when I was working with her, we never thought of trying to contact him...
    Bill - Since you've brought this up, I CAN confirm that as far as the SkyMatters information, Kerry did NOT know about that. She admitted to me via email that she had not seen any of that information. So what she may have heard about Mark Richards prior to Camelot most certainly did not encompass the SkyMatters information.

    Further, I have tried to find as much info. re Julian Salt as I can find on the net, but can find nothing much, other than he is indeed an academic. So because Mr. Salt is an academic -- we are supposed to believe Richards' story because Salt has added his stamp of approval to Richards' story? That's absurd (not at all stating that you feel this way, Bill). But what just astounds me more than anything is that so many people seem to jump on the bandwagon and blindly want to accept Richards' story (reminds me of the CG saga here) w/o so much as doing thorough research into Richards' background.

    Look - I completely agree with Dolan's take on the SSP. It exists. It most certainly exists. But having said that, Richards' story in no way validates its existence. Sociopaths do what they do because many of them are GOOD at what they do. People get sucked into their lies in amazing ways and don't want to accept that they've been 'had' by some of these individuals when the truth finally comes out. The Bill Cosby issue comes to mind here. I, too, have been confronted with this issue (believing wholeheartedly in someone and having my heart smashed to pieces when I discovered I'd been deceived). People tend to be gullible -- GOOD PEOPLE. That's an endearing trait I see so often with the human race, but a trait that is frustrating as well.

    Many people want TRUTH to be this exciting, thrilling, fantastical thing, but it's not always what you want it to be.

    I feel somewhat sorry for Richards' wife. But at the same time, now that someone has taken the time to uncover the murder trial documents and has painstakingly placed them on a website for easy access, it would behoove anyone who is interested in the Mark Richards saga to take a look -- a thorough look - at the SkyMatters website and see whether what Richards' wife states in her various lectures adds up to what you see in those documents.

    NO ONE involved with the Richards murder trial, was working for the CIA and actively trying to cover up Richards' involvement with the SSP. Please...

    I hope in the future that those involved with ufology, whether it be the researchers themselves or the general public, will learn more still to use one's discernment, just as much as learning to stay in one's heart. You cannot just throw your brain out the window when you hear stories like this one. Sometimes things are really just what they seem to be. Sometimes they are not. The trick is to learn, through discernment, which is which.
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    "GOOD PEOPLE"!! So true, Bayareamom! This is exactly why religious conmen can also get away with fleecing people. It is also why the majority of people are simply unable to comprehend the level of evil that is going on worldwide, because they feel since they wouldn't do "such things", no one else would either! It is a conundrum, isn't it?!

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    Quote Posted by Bayareamom (here)
    Bill - Since you've brought this up, I CAN confirm that as far as the SkyMatters information, Kerry did NOT know about that. She admitted to me via email that she had not seen any of that information. So what she may have heard about Mark Richards prior to Camelot most certainly did not encompass the SkyMatters information.
    Yes. At that early time, what we knew of Mark Richards' claims was only through Jo Ann (his wife), who was doing one or two radio show interviews in the mid-2000s (I remember a very early one with Daniel Ott), and she also had an early version of her Earth Defense HQ website.

    But the first time I ever heard of the SkyMatters website was recently, long after I left Camelot. Kerry and I never spoke of that once, and I can believe she was never aware of it at that time.
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