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    Default Congo - Gang rape, cannibalism, beheadings

    The situation in Congo is now completely out of control. The heart of darkness. There is of course no global outcry, no intervention, hardly any media coverage in either the MSM or the alternative media, but this is happening on this planet.



    Short extract from the article above:

    Quote "The Congo has become the world’s slaughterhouse and the bottom of the barrel in human depravity.

    A horrific new report says boys have been forced to rape their mothers, cannibal soldiers are feasting on the flesh and blood of the dying victims and there are beheadings on a daily basis.

    United Nations investigators have uncovered a horror show in the Kasai region where rebels and government forces have committed unspeakable atrocities....

    ....“One victim told us that in May 2017 she saw a group of Kamuina Nsapu militia, some of whom sported female genitals as medals,” the report said.

    “Some witnesses recalled seeing people cutting up, cooking and eating human flesh, including penises cut from men who were still alive and from corpses, especially FARDC, and drinking human blood.”

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    Default Re: Congo - Gang rape, cannibalism, beheadings

    Tragic, dreadful, and disturbing. Just like the genocide in Rwanda over 20 years ago, the world's media doesn't care, as the extreme local issues aren't of any global strategic importance.

    This is another perfect example of how the North America and European media are directed by political agendas to highlight certain stories (for opinion influence or entertainment) and ignore others that are utterly real but don't serve any purpose.

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    Default Re: Congo - Gang rape, cannibalism, beheadings

    The perpetrators should receive a dose of their own medicine, in public view.
    This may make them think twice about what they are doing to their fellow human beings.
    I know two wrongs don't make a right but I'm totally lost for words here.

    So sad and bordering on criminally insane.

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    Upsetting, to say the least. One’s instinct is to look away, it’s so horrific. Is humanity worth saving? It is a situation like this that makes you wonder.

    Romeo Dallaire, who was the UN’s peacekeeping commander in Rwanda at the time of that Holocaust, still suffers from PTSD from what he witnessed there. In this interview, he says that he has found no relief in writing about it. He states that “It’s not been cathartic, more like digging evil up again and trying to put it into words.”

    See: https://www.macleans.ca/culture/book...ng-new-memoir/

    The only words that come to mind are Conrad’s “The horror! The horror!”

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    Quote Posted by Chanie (here)
    Upsetting, to say the least. One’s instinct is to look away, it’s so horrific. Is humanity worth saving? It is a situation like this that makes you wonder.

    Romeo Dallaire, who was the UN’s peacekeeping commander in Rwanda at the time of that Holocaust, still suffers from PTSD from what he witnessed there. In this interview, he says that he has found no relief in writing about it. He states that “It’s not been cathartic, more like digging evil up again and trying to put it into words.”

    See: https://www.macleans.ca/culture/book...ng-new-memoir/

    The only words that come to mind are Conrad’s “The horror! The horror!”

    We don’t want to save that kind of humanity, indeed that kind of humanity is NOT humanity, it is inhumanity at its worst and needs to be deleted.
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    Well, they need to be stopped and the innocent need to be protected, but as Bill suggests, there isn’t a political motivation to do so. This is precisely the situation that Romeo Dallaire encountered in Rwanda. He tried to tell the world what was going on and no one would listen.

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    Quote Posted by Chanie (here)
    Upsetting, to say the least. One’s instinct is to look away, it’s so horrific. Is humanity worth saving? It is a situation like this that makes you wonder.

    Romeo Dallaire, who was the UN’s peacekeeping commander in Rwanda at the time of that Holocaust, still suffers from PTSD from what he witnessed there. In this interview, he says that he has found no relief in writing about it. He states that “It’s not been cathartic, more like digging evil up again and trying to put it into words.”

    See: https://www.macleans.ca/culture/book...ng-new-memoir/
    Just one understated paragraph from this article.
    Dallaire warned UN headquarters about the trouble brewing, and repeatedly pleaded for action and backup. But the world’s major powers failed to act or provide him with troops. Dallaire, a soldier with a mission to protect and orders not to intervene, had to stand by as up to a million people were killed in 100 days.
    So here's something to ponder about how the media works, and how the information we depend on and absorb all comes to us.

    The world's news machine (understandably) focuses on the protracted drama of saving 12 boys and an adult from a flooded cave in Thailand. Tribute is rightly paid to one hero who died in the rescue attempt.

    In Rwanda in 1994, up to a million people were killed in 100 days. That's ten thousand men, women and children a day.

    One person slaughtered every 9 seconds. No-one cared.

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    If true, this needs to be stopped in a militaristic fashion.

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    Exactly, Bill. I cared about those boys in the cave because the media brought it to my attention. Once I knew about it, I cared. I could see the faces of the boys in the news reports and empathize with their plight. My response to that situation was a very human one.

    By contrast, the situation in the Congo is not reported in the media or is buried on the back pages and little attempt is made to put a human face on it. Here in Canada, it took a Romeo Dallaire for us to understand the horror of Rwanda. We began to see that story through his eyes.

    This is a brief timeline of the Congo’s history up to 2009.

    See: https://www.hrw.org/news/2009/08/21/dr-congo-chronology

    I find it interesting that Kofi Annan, former Secretary-General of the UN, is calling for urgent action in the Congo.

    See: https://www.theelders.org/article/el...rises-dr-congo

    Kofi Annan has been accused of refusing to stop the genocide in Rwanda.

    See: https://umuvugizi.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/000145/

    Back in 2005, I happened to meet someone who worked for Kofi Annan. This person told me that Annan was “totally corrupt.”

    I think Dallaire’s despair is also a very human response. He was one human being trying to stand up to evil and who found himself thwarted by a corrupt system.

    I admire the fact that he stills gets out of bed in the morning, having seen what he has seen and knowing what he knows. That is truly an act of courage.

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    Above is a very good, and very true to fact movie about the crisis in Rwanda and the UN gentleman above, or one like him, is well portrayed. It is one of my favorite movies. It gives a moving, humanistic perspective to that catastrophe.

    No one wants to believe these things happen, but they do. God bless them.
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    @arwen

    if your provided report is true, then yes, the situation is totaly out of control-

    and we, here in Europe should accept these pardoned (IF in their own countries) criminals?- I hardly think they were brought to justice in their own home countries but we here in Europe should spend our time and money to rescue them from the sea (accompanied by benevolent families as human shields), accept them with open arms, make them above the law, then let them run loose and then grant them special privilages?-

    yes, this is really happening-

    so to quote @Bill

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ...about how the media works, and how the information we depend on and absorb all comes to us.

    The world's news machine (understandably) focuses on the protracted drama of saving 12 boys and an adult from a flooded cave in Thailand. Tribute is rightly paid to one hero who died in the rescue attempt.

    In Rwanda in 1994, up to a million people were killed in 100 days. That's ten thousand men, women and children a day.

    One person slaughtered every 9 seconds. No-one cared
    so what about the many rapes/murders going on in Europe by refugees with no coverage in the MSM?

    why?

    no one cares- until it happens to them/you- and then see how many care about you-

    Larry
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    @ Cardillac

    I’m not that cynical yet. I care. The day I stop caring is the day I will hand in my membership card to the human race.

    The fact that I’m disturbed by the slaughter in the Congo doesn’t mean that I don’t care about attacks in Europe. I care.

    Nor do I think it would be a good idea to ship Congolese criminals to Europe as refugees. At the very least, they need to be identified and brought to justice.

    This is an interesting article that talks about how the United States (Trump) has been putting pressure on specific Congolese officials through sanctions—hitting them in the pocket book, so to speak.

    See: https://www.thenation.com/article/vi...-they-want-to/

    It also points out that the Congolese government kicked out a Radio France worker whose reports were “the best single source on the atrocities.” It mentions that in the 1994 genocide, one of the first things Rwanda did was expel reporters and foreigners—potential witnesses.

    If true, this means that not only is the mainstream media slow to report on these types of situations, but also that the corrupt ones in power censor people who are trying to get the story out to the world.

    It’s enough to make one throw up one’s hands in despair—to not care—but still, I care.

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    If anyone is interested in following news articles about the Congo, I found this website that collects them on one page:

    See: http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/World+News/Africa/DR+Congo

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    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    @arwen

    if your provided report is true, then yes, the situation is totaly out of control-

    and we, here in Europe should accept these pardoned (IF in their own countries) criminals?- I hardly think they were brought to justice in their own home countries but we here in Europe should spend our time and money to rescue them from the sea (accompanied by benevolent families as human shields), accept them with open arms, make them above the law, then let them run loose and then grant them special privilages?-

    Larry
    @ Larry Well yes, given the previous pattern (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria...) it is not unreasonable to expect that this situation is being prepped as cover for the next incremental invasion of Europe or other parts of the West.

    I have only secondary private and personal testimony from the Congolese who fled to South Africa, and their haunted faces and personal stories are actually even more harrowing than the article. What is interesting is that the article cites a UN report, and has been fed to certain outlets via Reuters. Just enough to plant a seed, but not enough to garner international attention - as Bill so clearly pointed out - the story with the boys rescued from the cave in Thailand, no matter how valid, displays the contextual skew of the media internationally.

    And no, I do not consider the situation in Congo as grounds for floods of refugees to Europe. Omni correctly stated it requires immediate military action in the Congo to stop it. Alleged "human rights" violations were considered grounds for the US/NATO to invade Iraq (and weapons of mass destruction), but yet when we have actual atrocities taking place, strangely no outside intervention by the "humanitarian" officialdom. And again, as Bill pointed out - that is because they are of no strategic value, they simply do not matter.

    I have personal friends in Sweden with whom I am in touch daily, and have heard their harrowing tales of the rapes of children, elderly women, and the brutality of it, as well as the fact that my female friends no longer feel safe in their own country, and of course the government is not doing anything about it other than to advise their own citizens to take precautions. This is a later, adapted model of the earlier model that was rolled out in South Africa, in my opinion.

    With South Africa, there was already a large population to torment and ferment with hatred from Apartheid before unleashing them on the ordinary citizens, and with Europe, Canada, etc, they simply figured out how to import the demographic required, suitably formented with hatred by having their own countries brutally ripped apart by outside military and corporate asset strippers.

    In my view, it is the ordinary people around the world who are being played as mere pawns in a brutal end Game of Thrones. While we are all, in our own regions, being manipulated to be pitted against each other, the very last thing we should do as humans, is stop caring. Floods of invading, raping refugees is designed to do just that - traumatize the population into stopping caring for others at all. (Which does NOT mean lie down and accept brutal attacks). Just my view.

    My thanks to everyone else who provided such thoughtful and well articulated comments to the OP, much appreciated.
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    The situation in Congo has been extreme since King Leopold of Belgium decided he owned Congo in the mid 1880s. It has been estimated about 10 Million Congo people were killed in a 20 year period while slaving for the Belgian Empire. He wanted ivory, rubber, gold and other riches. People who didn't meet the demands were killed or perhaps lost a body part.

    Even Mark Twain wrote a satirical short book about it noting that other countries, including the USA, cared very little about the atrocities. Likely because many had financial connections. It belonged to Belgium to do with as they liked apparently. When Belgium left in the 1960s they destroyed as much infrastructure as they could leaving it in a devastated condition.

    Interestingly Anthony Bourdain did a show there, it was as much about the history and current conditions and people as food, if not more.

    It seems little has changed there.

    A friend of mine heard about the problems in Congo and after careful consideration made arrangements to go there and adopt 2 unrelated children. She is white, her husband is black but they have separated. Their kids are multi-color

    A couple of years ago she was able to track down the families of both kids. She learned further details about the 2 families who took their kids on a week or more walk to a church orphanage in Kigali to protect them from the militia groups. She then made arrangements with others in Congo to move the families out of dangerous areas to a safer area in Kigali. They are doing well and in contact with their kids in the US now via Skype. Her kids are also in contact with adopted siblings and friends from the orphanage in Kigali who are now in the US. Her older kids make things and sell them at farmers markets, and I believe Etsy to raise money for the two families.

    Of course, this does nothing to stop the present atrocities but it was what she and others were able to do along with sharing about the Congo situation.

    Imagine sending your children to be adopted to protect them from being murdered, raped or eaten by militias. I can't even imagine it.

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    Thanks for sharing the story about your friend, Latte.

    It’s a poignant illustration of the expression “Know...Care...Act.” First, you have to know about a situation; then, you have to care about it and once you care about it, you have to act on that knowledge. It sounds like your friend has done just that.

    Giving up one’s children under those circumstances is a selfless act of love. I can’t fathom the strength it would take, but I think it shows how dire the situation is there.

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    When I was a kid I had a friend who was a refugee from Congo or Zaire as he called it. He came here with his mother, brother and 2 sisters and they were seeking asylum here.
    I remember they did not know where the father was or even if he was still alive.

    All I know is that the asylum was not approved and they fled town in the middle of the night. I have never seen my friend again.

    I guess the dutch government did not care about a woman and 4 children under the age of 12 either. I sure hope they were not sent back in the light of all this.

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    Sir Henry Morton Stanley was a Welsh journalist and explorer who was famous for his exploration of central Africa and his search for missionary and explorer David Livingstone. Upon finding Livingstone, Stanley reportedly asked, "Dr. Livingstone, I presume?" Stanley is also known for his search for the source of the Nile, his pioneering work later enabling the plundering of the Congo Basin region by King Leopold II of Belgium, and his command of the Emin Pasha Relief Expedition.

    In 2005 a Journalist from the London telegraph poured over his diaries and old maps of the Congo, determined to recreate Stanley´s journey. Comparing 19th century Congo to modern day Congo, shocked me to my core. The reverse of fortune has been unforgettable for the people of Congo.

    Anybody interested in the Congo I strongly recommend reading this book.

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    Quote Posted by sunwings (here)
    Sir Henry Morton Stanley was a Welsh journalist and explorer who was famous for his exploration of central Africa and his search for missionary and explorer David Livingstone. Upon finding Livingstone, Stanley reportedly asked, "Dr. Livingstone, I presume?" Stanley is also known for his search for the source of the Nile, his pioneering work later enabling the plundering of the Congo Basin region by King Leopold II of Belgium, and his command of the Emin Pasha Relief Expedition.

    In 2005 a Journalist from the London telegraph poured over his diaries and old maps of the Congo, determined to recreate Stanley´s journey. Comparing 19th century Congo to modern day Congo, shocked me to my core. The reverse of fortune has been unforgettable for the people of Congo.

    Anybody interested in the Congo I strongly recommend reading this book.

    Here it is:

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    Quote Posted by sunwings (here)
    Sir Henry Morton Stanley was a Welsh journalist and explorer who was famous for his exploration of central Africa and his search for missionary and explorer David Livingstone. Upon finding Livingstone, Stanley reportedly asked, "Dr. Livingstone, I presume?" Stanley is also known for his search for the source of the Nile, his pioneering work later enabling the plundering of the Congo Basin region by King Leopold II of Belgium, and his command of the Emin Pasha Relief Expedition.

    In 2005 a Journalist from the London telegraph poured over his diaries and old maps of the Congo, determined to recreate Stanley´s journey. Comparing 19th century Congo to modern day Congo, shocked me to my core. The reverse of fortune has been unforgettable for the people of Congo.

    Anybody interested in the Congo I strongly recommend reading this book.

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    Wow. That post touched me to the core. Belgium has a tremendous amount of karma to work off. They were the reason behind the Rwandan genocide. I didn't know about their dealings in the Congo, too. I saw the connection a few days ago on this thread, but your post reminded me of it.

    Why do humans always have to meddle? Greed. A cautionary tale that keeps being ignored by the psychopaths.
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