Misuse of the word 'God'

[Eagle Eye]

I will try it to explain the essence since english is not my native language and can create confusion going in details.

We have a long history when people has used the word God, for their own purpose. Government has used to gain public trust, military has used it to make soldiers fight without questioning, religious members has used it to manipulate masses and to have more power...and so on. All this history of abusing of that word has led people to detach from the divine, to opose that word every time and even get them to hate that word.

Thats why when the word God is mentioned, most of us unconsciously create mixed not comfortable emotions. In my opinion this is the highest deception that has been made to the human race to detach it from the divine realm and deceiving them from accepting the one Creator and its creation.

[greybeard]

Even bigger is the deception that we are separate from "God"
There is no where that God is not.
No "God" no life, the seeming two are one.
"God" became all that is, without diminishing itself.

I agree that the concept of God was used to install fear and obedience.

Onward Christian soldiers etc.

Ch

[Foxie Loxie]

The word 'God' means something different to each person, I think. In the Judeo-Christian arena we have assumed it was the God of the Old Testament.

However, that word was mistranslated in Genesis as it is a plural word...gods....so a whole belief system was constructed around in incorrect tranlation!

Herve has an amazing article called "The So-called Word of God" which helped me start peeling away the layers of brainwashing I had received! You might find it interesting, Iceberg!

I do agree with you....I no longer even like the word 'God' as it conveys something very unrealistic. It is better to say "I AM"!!

[Orph]

The word "God" is just that. A word. Nothing more. Just a word. Go look at a tree. The tree is what it is, regardless of what we call it. So, we can use terms like "Source", "All-That-Is", God", or whatever.

But I agree with Graybeard. We are all a part of The One. And we must try to find that connection deep within ourselves. And this is something that has to be "experienced". And I have a feeling that if a person can truly experience being a part of The One that all labels and words will fall by the wayside. All teachings by others will fall by the wayside. We won't need anyone to "show us the way". We won't need a "God".

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

[Salv8tion]

Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
Herve has an amazing article called "The So-called Word of God" which helped me start peeling away the layers of brainwashing I had received! You might find it interesting, Iceberg!

Could you point me in the right direction for this article, Foxie Loxie? Would LOVE to read it, and a quick google didn't lead me anywhere but hits on Avalon Forum lol. Much appreciated!

[Eagle Eye]

I aprechiate the replies even I don't agree with some statements.

I see the inside and outside like 2 different worlds but part of one creation, by one Creator and our consciousness can percieve both worlds. There are those who says look only in inside and those who look only the outside, but I like to say: look the inside and outside and take the best of them.

Also I agree that we are part of God and everything is, but I don't like this part of creation which we are experiencing right now, thats what I ment that we have been detached from divine, by this system through history by abusing the word God.

[ExomatrixTV]

Prime Creator is way too big for any ReLIEgion or (contaminated) label we use!

[Zak247]

There’s “God” as a noun and there’s “God” as a system of metaphysical science and laws that determine reality. That’s what also can’t be separated from the noun--God.

It’s the metaphysical laws that determined the suffering world we have fallen into.
And it’s these same laws that we must find and use to get out of this world of suffering and intense negativity.

So there’s God, the being, and his/her systems.
Actually, it’s her/his systems that matter more to us than the noun or person of God.

That’s what Buddha means when he said he doesn’t believe in the God of theology.

The God of standard western theology is irrelevant in terms of his systems of metaphysical laws that rule our inner world.

The best way to use God's laws to return to our original state of happiness and bliss is through the practice of Love and virtue.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Salv8tion (here)

Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
Herve has an amazing article called "The So-called Word of God" which helped me start peeling away the layers of brainwashing I had received! You might find it interesting, Iceberg!

Could you point me in the right direction for this article, Foxie Loxie? Would LOVE to read it, and a quick google didn't lead me anywhere but hits on Avalon Forum lol. Much appreciated!

It's an opening post on a thread on this forum, actually, here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...highlight=word

[Salv8tion]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Salv8tion (here)

Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
Herve has an amazing article called "The So-called Word of God" which helped me start peeling away the layers of brainwashing I had received! You might find it interesting, Iceberg!

Could you point me in the right direction for this article, Foxie Loxie? Would LOVE to read it, and a quick google didn't lead me anywhere but hits on Avalon Forum lol. Much appreciated!

It's an opening post on a thread on this forum, actually, here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...highlight=word

Ah! Thanks for clarifying that, and thanks Foxie Loxie for the PM pointing me in the same direction!

[Cardillac]

many, many words/phrases (doesn't matter which language- it's everywhere) are thoughtlessly uttered by 'we the "sheeple"' without even realising what the word/phrase really means because of where all of this originates-

Larry

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Cardillac (here)
many, many words/phrases (doesn't matter which language- it's everywhere) are thoughtlessly uttered by 'we the "sheeple"' without even realising what the word/phrase really means because of where all of this originates-

Larry

I'd say the effect you refer to is due to the power of language borne, linguistically structured thought - I firmly believe that all our spoken languages have been crafted and given to humans for the purpose of vastly restricting our ability to understand and share with each other that which is ineffable ... it has been shown that that the further back one goes toward "origin" of language, the more structured and purposeful the language becomes. We expect that language has evolved toward sophistication, structure and clarity, but these studies show that languages appear to have started out "perfect" and have been degrading and evolving since inception.

Someone gave us language, apparently as a control mechanism over the minds of men, at they very root of our consciousness ... I'd say one of the greatest conspiracies ever ... but I digress from the thread topic ...

[Foxie Loxie]

Great point, DeDukshyn!! And.....I wouldn't say it is "off topic! We just haven't realized HOW MUCH we have been controlled!!

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Cardillac (here)
many, many words/phrases (doesn't matter which language- it's everywhere) are thoughtlessly uttered by 'we the "sheeple"' without even realising what the word/phrase really means because of where all of this originates-

Larry

I'd say the effect you refer to is due to the power of language borne, linguistically structured thought - I firmly believe that all our spoken languages have been crafted and given to humans for the purpose of vastly restricting our ability to understand and share with each other that which is ineffable ... it has been shown that that the further back one goes toward "origin" of language, the more structured and purposeful the language becomes. We expect that language has evolved toward sophistication, structure and clarity, but these studies show that languages appear to have started out "perfect" and have been degrading and evolving since inception.

Someone gave us language, apparently as a control mechanism over the minds of men, at they very root of our consciousness ... I'd say one of the greatest conspiracies ever ... but I digress from the thread topic ...

I just brought the example of the most powerful word we can imagine, to describe what has been done to that, being lowered down on purpose the powerful impact it has. Its not just about language, but mostly about its meaning and also the thoughts and emotions that associate it.

[Foxie Loxie]

I would say the most powerful word we have is LOVE!

[petra]

Thanks for posting Iceberg you have some very good points, I really dislike the misuse, and to be fair I did try (and fail) to stop saying God.

Saying "The Source" reminds me of Circuit City, so can't use that

Freemasons say "Supreme Being" which I kind of like but it still seems lacking.

I could say "Big Weird Alien" and I think that'd be true... there's just a lot of ways to interpret that (ha ha)

Immaculate conception is supposed to mean "conceived with love" not "conceived by magic", and "virgin" used to be someone who has not given birth, but now it means someone who has not had sex.

If you add all of this stuff up, it really starts to make us Christians look like a bunch of idiots.

I'm embarrassed about the Crusades... I don't get along with most other Christians... but I still consider myself Christian because I follow Jesus, and because they all believe in "demons". Where some might find the concept of demons scary, I just get ticked off by it. Exorcist is a job - and that's a fact. Something's just feels wrong - but not so wrong that everyone knows about it (yet).

Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
....I no longer even like the word 'God' as it conveys something very unrealistic. It is better to say "I AM"!!

LOL Foxie....! I dare not say I am...

Being God would be the last thing I'd want to be. I've already been "Pretend God" in my head, and that scared the crap out of me. The scary part was when I thought I really was "God" (great now it needs quotes..ha ha)

I kept getting pretend-tricked into destroying things, and it felt as if "Real God" was facepalming at me the entire time (because I was so gullible)

Any way, that's just my perception of it - I still continue to use the word even if I might be offending some Atheists along the way. If they want to get offended about something, they could always offended about "In God We Trust" on all the money. If I was an Athiest I think that would kind of get on my nerves

[Foxie Loxie]

petra.....we are all part of The One; the Totality of All. In that sense you are "god". Think of yourself as a spark that has come off of the Only Source there is. You are an Eternal, Sovereign Being before you ever entered the meatsack you presently inhabit.

A biggie for me was learning there IS no "death"! I come from a very narrowminded Christian sect so I can understand your hesitance.

Say to yourself every day..."I AM"; that is the one truth you can be sure of!

[petra]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
Someone gave us language, apparently as a control mechanism over the minds of men, at they very root of our consciousness ... I'd say one of the greatest conspiracies ever ... but I digress from the thread topic ...

I have to say... you're very close to how I see it too. Language is right at the root of it. English in particular, because it's the worst one.

We're not digressing English is awful, and it's kind of relevant!

I only began thinking of it like a conspiracy when the actual shape of the letters was giving me the creeps. Bet you didn't know Q kind of looks like the Devil if you put a couple of horns and a tail on it

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Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
petra.....we are all part of The One; the Totality of All. In that sense you are "god". Think of yourself as a spark that has come off of the Only Source there is. You are an Eternal, Sovereign Being before you ever entered the meatsack you presently inhabit.

A biggie for me was learning there IS no "death"! I come from a very narrowminded Christian sect so I can understand your hesitance.

Say to yourself every day..."I AM"; that is the one truth you can be sure of!

I'd rather be able to say "I see", and for that to be true

[Chanie]

Foxie, to use a Sunday School reference, your little I Am spark “shines like a pure clear light!”

[hermit]

I forget where I picked this up, but... fun experiment time.

In the Hebrew language, vowels are implied. So words are written with consonants and you just assume the vowels.

So the name of God, one of them YHWH is actually two syllables.

Yh

and

Wh.

So, finish reading this post and give this a try.

When you are quiet, still, calm breathe in through your mouth gently, and notice the sound. It's yh.

Then, still quiet, still, calm breathing, breath out through you mouth and listen. It's wh.

From your first breath until your last. YhWh.