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    Default Re: Banksters of Babylon, Merchants of Venice, and Elders of Zion

    Quote Rome, curiously, owes its origin to Saturn, a refugee from the Trojan War ca. 1200 B. C. in the area called Latium. So if you say "Latin" anything, this is an honorific to Saturn. This was Virgil's "Golden Age" when it was prosperous and peaceful to Etruscans and was really just Latin Culture, not the city of Rome. In hoping for a return to that Golden Age, he wasn't saying anything particularly kind about the place in his time.
    That’s a very interesting point Shaberon. It’s fairly well known that the Saturnalian cult that originated from Rome (the cult of the black cube, which is worshipped by ultra orthodox Jews, Muslims and high finance) is behind a lot of the power structures in the world today. What’s less well known is the root word for Saturn — in the Vedic — was the same root word used for Satya Yuga (the golden age).

    I know Manly P. Hall, in his book on St Germaine, shares a prophecy from within Masonic traditions, for the return of Saturn and the next golden age that he brings.

    Robert Sepehr has a good video on the Saturnalian strand of influence from Roman history:

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    Vedic, or Sanskrit, Satya is the Age of Truth; Sat meaning truth. The Sanskrit name of Saturn is Shani.

    I didn't know the origin of "Saturn", so I looked, and found possibly the past tense of "to sow", Latin.

    Most people interpreted Virgil's Golden Age (it is a prophecy) as a prediction of Jesus, whereas, the common context of his time was that the Golden Age continued 2-300 years after Saturn in Latium, a good peaceful time, contrasted against the Roman authorities then current.

    I would say that the Archon of Saturn was distinctly cast into the Ialdabaoth or Demi-urge--Yahweh to the point where all the Abrahamic religions worship Form. In this, I am making a distinction from the Regent of Saturn, meaning its existence in Consciousness. People are generally correct to be wary of Archons, which are probably relatively powerless until given power, which is what these religions are all about.

    It would be the same with the Sun. Adonai is Baal or Assur (Assyria). Which is fine if you understand it spiritually. But these religions worship Form, hence using an Archon of the Sun as well.

    The distinction is roughly the same as mind and instinct. Do the instincts exist in the mind, yes, but which is in charge?

    So the Saturn Regent is supposed to be in charge, but in fact, the Archon has been enshrined. The Regent of Saturn is the Father, or the Abba whom Jesus spoke of, actually that's all he spoke of, he never mentioned god ever.

    I'd suggest this is a pretty important distinction: Saturn Archon has been completely bottled and used for extremely nefarious purposes, but it is not the "real" Saturn, it is mankind's adoration of its shadow.
    Gayatri Namasangiti Nucleus of the Complete Bodhisattva Path from the Sanskrit

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    Default Re: Banksters of Babylon, Merchants of Venice, and Elders of Zion

    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    Vedic, or Sanskrit, Satya is the Age of Truth; Sat meaning truth. The Sanskrit name of Saturn is Shani.

    I didn't know the origin of "Saturn", so I looked, and found possibly the past tense of "to sow", Latin.
    Sanskrit writing, with the Vedic mindset...I do tend to conflate the two. Your distinctions help shine a light on why the root word of ‘Sat’ was used for both names though. There’s an excellent book on the Tibetan Vajryana tradition called Skydancer, about the Life and songs of Yeshe Tsogyel, an enlightened female Buddha from the 7th or 8th century. In that book she describes the Kali Yuga as “the age of intensified animal passions”. She spends a portion of her life teaching the Abhidharma (the truest truths of the dharma, the structure of the Tao), which is reserved only for the best and brightest of Buddhas students.

    Then she spends another portion of her life writing ‘Tertons’ and hiding them in caves so that in future times, when the world is ready, people who have cultivated enough merit, or purified enough karma; will serendipitously stumble onto those caves and rediscover the ancient wisdom of the abhidharma.

    The act of hiding tertons in caves could be likened to planting seeds of truth or seeds of wisdom in the ground, so that in the time of the Satya Yuga; Saturn, the ‘Lord of time’ and ‘king of the harvest’, can unearth those seeds and reap what’s been sown.

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    The distinction is roughly the same as mind and instinct. Do the instincts exist in the mind, yes, but which is in charge?...

    I'd suggest this is a pretty important distinction: Saturn Archon has been completely bottled and used for extremely nefarious purposes, but it is not the "real" Saturn, it is mankind's adoration of its shadow.
    Excellent distinction! That does make a lot of sense, I like it.

    The Saturnalian cult is all about flipping the natural order, where servants get to parade around as kings for a day. What was the Buddha’s quote, where he says something along the lines of ‘in the end of days, the world will be ruled by plunderers and thieves’, sounds like an accurate description of our current state of political affairs.
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    Default Re: Banksters of Babylon, Merchants of Venice, and Elders of Zion

    These ‘Big Four’ Companies Control the World, Yet You’ve Probably Never Heard of Them

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    Some people have started realizing that there are large financial groups that dominate the world. Forget the political intrigues, conflicts, revolutions and wars. It is not pure chance. Everything has been planned for a long time.

    Some call it “conspiracy theories” or New World Order. Anyway, the key to understanding the current political and economic events is a restricted core of families who have accumulated more wealth and power.

    We are speaking of 6, 8 or maybe 12 families who truly dominate the world. Know that it is a mystery difficult to unravel.

    We will not be far from the truth by citing Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Loebs Kuh and Lehmans in New York, the Rothschilds of Paris and London, the Warburgs of Hamburg, Paris and Lazards Israel Moses Seifs Rome.

    Many people have heard of the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission. But what are the names of the families who run the world and have control of states and international organizations like the UN, NATO or the IMF?

    To try to answer this question, we can start with the easiest: inventory, the world’s largest banks, and see who the shareholders are and who make the decisions.

    The world’s largest companies are now: Bank of America, JP Morgan, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.Let us now review who their shareholders are.

    Bank of America:

    State Street Corporation, Vanguard Group, BlackRock, FMR (Fidelity), Paulson, JP Morgan, T. Rowe, Capital World Investors, AXA, Bank of NY, Mellon.

    JP Morgan:

    State Street Corp., Vanguard Group, FMR, BlackRock, T. Rowe, AXA, Capital World Investor, Capital Research Global Investor, Northern Trust Corp. and Bank of Mellon.

    Citigroup:

    State Street Corporation, Vanguard Group, BlackRock, Paulson, FMR, Capital World Investor, JP Morgan, Northern Trust Corporation, Fairhome Capital Mgmt and Bank of NY Mellon.

    Wells Fargo:

    Berkshire Hathaway, FMR, State Street, Vanguard Group, Capital World Investors, BlackRock, Wellington Mgmt, AXA, T. Rowe and Davis Selected Advisers.

    We can see that now there appears to be a nucleus present in all banks: State Street Corporation, Vanguard Group, BlackRock and FMR (Fidelity). To avoid repeating them, we will now call them the “big four.”

    Goldman Sachs:

    “The big four,” Wellington, Capital World Investors, AXA, Massachusetts Financial Service and T. Rowe.

    Morgan Stanley:

    “The big four,” Mitsubishi UFJ, Franklin Resources, AXA, T. Rowe, Bank of NY Mellon e Jennison Associates. Rowe, Bank of NY Mellon and Jennison Associates.

    We can just about always verify the names of major shareholders. To go further, we can now try to find out the shareholders of these companies and shareholders of major banks worldwide.

    Bank of NY Mellon:

    Davis Selected, Massachusetts Financial Services, Capital Research Global Investor, Dodge, Cox, Southeatern Asset Mgmt. and … “The big four.”

    State Street Corporation (one of the “big four”):

    Massachusetts Financial Services, Capital Research Global Investor, Barrow Hanley, GE, Putnam Investment and … The “big four” (shareholders themselves!).

    BlackRock (another of the “big four”):

    PNC, Barclays e CIC.

    Who is behind the PNC? FMR (Fidelity), BlackRock, State Street, etc.

    And behind Barclays? BlackRock.

    And we could go on for hours, passing by tax havens in the Cayman Islands, Monaco or the legal domicile of Shell companies in Liechtenstein. A network where companies are always the same, but never a name of a family.

    In short: the eight largest U.S. financial companies (JP Morgan, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, U.S. Bancorp, Bank of New York Mellon and Morgan Stanley) are 100% controlled by ten shareholders and we have four companies always present in all decisions: BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard and Fidelity.

    In addition, the Federal Reserve is comprised of 12 banks, represented by a board of seven people, which comprises representatives of the “big four,” which in turn are present in all other entities.

    In short, the Federal Reserve is controlled by four large private companies: BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard and Fidelity. These companies control U.S. monetary policy (and world) without any control or “democratic” choice.

    These companies launched and participated in the current worldwide economic crisis and managed to become even more enriched.

    To finish, a look at some of the companies controlled by this “big four” group

    Alcoa Inc.
    Altria Group Inc.
    American International Group Inc.
    AT&T Inc.
    Boeing Co.
    Caterpillar Inc.
    Coca-Cola Co.
    DuPont & Co.
    Exxon Mobil Corp.
    General Electric Co.
    General Motors Corporation
    Hewlett-Packard Co.
    Home Depot Inc.
    Honeywell International Inc.
    Intel Corp.
    International Business Machines Corp
    Johnson & Johnson
    JP Morgan Chase & Co.
    McDonald’s Corp.
    Merck & Co. Inc.
    Microsoft Corp.
    3M Co.
    Pfizer Inc.
    Procter & Gamble Co.
    United Technologies Corp.
    Verizon Communications Inc.
    Wal-Mart Stores Inc.
    Time Warner
    Walt Disney
    Viacom
    Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation.,
    CBS Corporation
    NBC Universal

    The same “big four” control the vast majority of European companies counted on the stock exchange.

    In addition, all these people run the large financial institutions, such as the IMF, the European Central Bank or the World Bank, and were “trained” and remain “employees” of the “big four” that formed them.

    The names of the families that control the “big four”, never appear.
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    I wonder which faction of the illuminati runs the company BlackRock


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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    How to double time into overtime

    ... as potential answers to Jayke's "paradoxes" in forging looooonnnngggg ancestries to land claims and populations.

    Some comments I found interesting:[INDENT]Responses to Gunnar Heinsohn: Enigmas of 3000 to 300 BC
    This is also chronological revisionism.

    Gunnar Heinsohn has built upon the work of Heribert Illig, another chronological revisionist, focusing on the time time 500-800 AD, in which Illig originally claimed that Charlemagne never existed and was a fabrication (Fomenko argues a duplication) and Heinsohn's work has shown that the end of the Roman Empire transitions directly into Charlemagne's era in the archaeological strata, completely skipping over the period 500-800 AD, which only seems to exist on paper.

    Maybe your post belongs in the chronological revisionism thread as well Hervé.


    Nevermind!

    I just checked the new thread and saw that you already posted it there too. Thanks, Hervé.

    But as you can see, the two topics converge. If the revisionists are correct, there will ultimately be no escaping their conclusions for anyone who truly seeks to get to the bottom of things.
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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Some of the paradoxes that have arisen from this thread.

    1. The Phoenician Canaanites were apparently Semitic and parasitic, yet Robert Sepehr provides evidence that early Germans and vikings were Phoenician Caucasians, who were brave and noble?
    2. The chronology of history appears to have been forged? Yet it also appears to be accurate?
    3. Miles Mathis provides evidence that the Ancient Spooks were a global hegemony, even in ancient times, but if they had such great dominance, why would they have needed to develop the Protocols of Zion as a way to subjugate entire populations to their will?
    This looks like a strong contender for the issue of reconciling the paradoxes...was Jesus a Phoenician? The data points in this video certainly tie a hell-of-a-lot of anomalous features together for me (beyond even those discussed in this thread), I’ll have to wait for his book to arrive to see how strong the scholarship is before coming to any strong conclusions, but it certainly looks promising so far.


    A couple key points he raises:
    • The Phoenician God Adonis stems from the same as the Egyptian god venerated by Akhenaten (Adon = Aten)
    • Yh-shu (god of the sea) becomes Yahweh.
    • The gospel of James describes the early life of Jesus mother Mary, and talks of her role in the temples as dying silks purple (the Miles Mathis “Phoenician monopoly on purple cloth trade” connection).
    Among others, a very interesting presentation!

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