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    Default Re: To The Stars Academy's Hal Puthoff about metamaterials, AATIP, Bob Bigelow, and more

    TTSA is a disinformation operation, imo.

    Not a major one necessarily, but an ongoing operation to misinform the public about UFOlogy.

    The end game is to misinform the public. They need a new paradigm shift in UFOlogy.The old one has worn out... Thereby going from Aliens are demons in a cave to Aliens can give us Warp drives and anti-gravity propulsion capacity.
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    One last comment.

    I think they are hiding the truth about UFOlogy and the IC is the front line in that operation.

    When they create these groups with individuals all connected to the IC and claim to be interested in disclosure their lying and this Puthoff propaganda film is just that, meaningless propaganda and distraction.

    They're not going to disclose a damn thing. All these items fallen from space they suppose to have in their possession aren’t going to prove anything.

    All their going to do is put out in the public mind a new theory of distraction about UFOlogy.

    Even the DARK Journalist knows this.


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    Can anyone remind me of the short allegorical story i read of engineers brought in to "back engineer" a jet pack that was destroyed in a test flight killing the inventor as well. The engineers work feverishly to try and "back engineer" another jet pack from the test debris, only to find out once completed that the initial "test" and story were no more than a ruse ?
    Methinks I see the same going on here !

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    I would like to connect some dots that may support ongoing developments within the UFO arena as regards who have been and are still influencers and make decisions for research funding and connections internationally. Key players can be cited in organisations EUS, UFODATA and TTSA.

    http://europeanufosurvey.com/en/ EUS registered in Switzerland, launched 2001, Made up of about 30 scientists from 10 European countries as an ‘invisible college’ researching all aspects of Ufology. Jacques Vallee, linked to DIA, offered EUS in 2006 a 2M euros to support EUS in their research. What’s interesting is that either the USA agencies were inadequately weak in this research at the time OR it was a way of obtaining additional key research results. Some EUS members were originally involved in the COMETA report. The President CNES (French Aerospace) in 2002 was quite knowledgeable about the dynamics of UFOs.

    Vallee’s research since ‘Passport to Magonia’ has consistently involved in UFOs and consciousness science link to them. He had some involvement with SRI and Puthoff in consciousness research. He leads a paradox in science as his research from his UFO investigations to a 2018 contribution to the SETI Institute and occasional invited panel discussions within SETI. Interestingly, enough he doesn’t see UFOs as ET connected but an overarching ‘Intelligence’ in our midst. Its interesting that Vallee wasn’t invited to the TTSA team.

    The funding from one agency was there at the same time as the AATIP funding of 2007. Vallee and the DIA was a surprise, because this would have been funding into Ufology outside the USA. As a side, Alain Boudier, retired President of CNES, (French AeroSpace) was frustrated with the USA military not disclosing there findings back in 2012. A future French plan was to go public (Disclosure). I suspect that this French strategy has been abandoned due to USA influence.

    http://www.ufodata.net/ was launched 2015. This organisation had been developing gradually inviting key scientists and influencers to the UFO research field. Leslie Kean and Christopher Mellon are among four of the founders. Christopher Mellon obviously had a deep interest before getting involved with the ‘To The Stars Academy (TTSA). His first speech to TTSA was of the Nimitz case (tic tac imagery).
    His role in UFODATA appears to be rather passive from the outside, but the inner sanctum may be quite different.

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    I would like to connect some dots that may support ongoing developments within the UFO arena as regards who have been and are still influencers and make decisions for research funding and connections internationally. Key players can be cited in organisations EUS, UFODATA and TTSA.

    http://europeanufosurvey.com/en/ EUS registered in Switzerland, launched 2001, Made up of about 30 scientists from 10 European countries as an ‘invisible college’ researching all aspects of Ufology. Jacques Vallee, linked to DIA, offered EUS in 2006 a 2M euros to support EUS in their research. What’s interesting is that either the USA agencies were inadequately weak in this research at the time OR it was a way of obtaining additional key research results. Some EUS members were originally involved in the COMETA report. The President CNES (French Aerospace) in 2002 was quite knowledgeable about the dynamics of UFOs.

    Vallee’s research since ‘Passport to Magonia’ has consistently involved in UFOs and consciousness science link to them. He had some involvement with SRI and Puthoff in consciousness research. He leads a paradox in science as his research from his UFO investigations to a 2018 contribution to the SETI Institute and occasional invited panel discussions within SETI. Interestingly, enough he doesn’t see UFOs as ET connected but an overarching ‘Intelligence’ in our midst. Its interesting that Vallee wasn’t invited to the TTSA team.

    The funding from one agency was there at the same time as the AATIP funding of 2007. Vallee and the DIA was a surprise, because this would have been funding into Ufology outside the USA. As a side, Alain Boudier, retired President of CNES, (French AeroSpace) was frustrated with the USA military not disclosing there findings back in 2012. A future French plan was to go public (Disclosure). I suspect that this French strategy has been abandoned due to USA influence.

    http://www.ufodata.net/ was launched 2015. This organisation had been developing gradually inviting key scientists and influencers to the UFO research field. Leslie Kean and Christopher Mellon are among four of the founders. Christopher Mellon obviously had a deep interest before getting involved with the ‘To The Stars Academy (TTSA). His first speech to TTSA was of the Nimitz case (tic tac imagery).
    His role in UFODATA appears to be rather passive from the outside, but the inner sanctum may be quite different.
    Thank you so much for this post explaining other players and organizations interactions with this.
    One of the big player with tons of money not mentioned in all of this is SETI a major gatekeeper and in my opinion worthless but has a nice array of expensive radio telescopes that they put into mothballs. So I think its worth mentioning their take.

    Allen array in mothballs http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/ba.../#.W18tiKhKiEs

    This is what they said about the tic tac Nimitz affair.

    James McGaha of SETI said: "People see what they want to see. If you are not trained to know what you are looking at, the brain will fill in the gaps."

    UFO believers claim the high number of pilots, astronauts, and police reporting seeing UFOs, means alien craft must exist.

    However, Mr McGaha shot this down, saying pilots were not trained observers to astronomical phenomena.

    "It is unlikely what is seen in the video is moving at all.

    "Pilots and police are not trained observers like astronomers and often see what they believe.

    "I have 40,000 hours experience of looking at the night sky as an astronomer and thousands of hours of flying at night in airplanes and have never once seen anything I did not understand what it was."

    Mr McGaha said scores of pilot UFO sightings that have talked of craft making high speed manoeuvres and sharp turns were not credible.

    He said: "I don't consider this very credible. People say an object moves at a certain speed, but the eye balls are not calibrated.

    "You need to know how far away it is and the size, it is not what most people can do including pilots.

    “They see something for a short time, not know what it is, and attach a belief to it to fill blanks with what has not actually happened."

    Seth Shostak, co-host of the podcast, said: "They could certainly release some better evidence, this is just a blob in the central view, it looks like the back end of an aircraft.''

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird...breaks-silence

    OK...... everyone throw up including myself over these statements .
    They have a budget $3 million a year and whose main public Relations on TV is to debunk anything about UFOs.

    I'm glad the Europeans (excluding the Brits) and South American Govts are taking this subject serious thanks again for the post

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    Can anyone remind me of the short allegorical story i read of engineers brought in to "back engineer" a jet pack that was destroyed in a test flight killing the inventor as well. The engineers work feverishly to try and "back engineer" another jet pack from the test debris, only to find out once completed that the initial "test" and story were no more than a ruse ?
    Methinks I see the same going on here !
    That was a Stan Deyo talk he gave in Roswell

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    Ichingcarpenter: Just expanding up on your piece:

    The near demise of the SETI institutes operations of the Allen Telescopes Array in 2013 was saved by Jill Tarter (CONTACT movie fame) and husband Jack Welch pouring all there savings into SETI operations. Even the Breakthrough Listen $100M (2015) didn’t go to the SETI Institute. Funding went to the Berkeley Breakthrough Listen HQ, Greenbank (West Virginia) and Parkes in Australia. By 2017 half the funds were spent. 2018 the last half was spent on renting time on FAST Chinese 500m telescope, LOFAR in Europe and Jodrell Bank, UK. I understand that there is another $100M sought for recently, but the source for it, Yuri Millner has not warmed to offering it.

    Regarding SETI analysis of the tic tac imagery from ATIP and TTSA, McGaha is not the spokesperson for SETI. He is a retired US Airforce pilot, amateur astronomer and a UFO investigator. Credentials that are inadequate for offering an opinion that he has no foundation in. It’s an unfortunate problem of the disconnect and inadequate framework of thinking, with the riches of an overwhelming evidence that persists in Ufology in general. Even SETI scientists do not have the foundation or the experiential for this very real phenomenon as you cannot apply the scientific Cartesian methodology to this research alone.

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    Default Re: To The Stars Academy's Hal Puthoff about metamaterials, AATIP, Bob Bigelow, and more

    FYI, I pushed the pile forward by publishing a patent on how to make these metamaterial nano structured alloys. So it's open science now and no one can patent it, it's on the official record. Filed ---- and then purposely abandoned. I was hit by the car in the parking lot and barely avoided severe injuries or death, on the day it went public....
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    I just watched the Hal Puthoff video that was posted into the avalon libray and right from the get go Hal is talking (favourably) about a Peter Strzok. It just has to be the same one that is the most worst form of POS that draws breath, by mine and others observations of him testifying before the congress or Senate on alleged Trump collusion with Russians. Why he has not yet been arrested and jailed is anyones guess, as he is a proven liar and quite happy to break the law and say F you to the rest of America as far as integrity of the voting system in that he and Lisa Page are HRC supporters using their official capacity to prevent a candidate from being elected by fabricating grounds for a judge to sign a FISA warrant.

    Just more evidence about TTSA being a whole lot of nothing to take your time and your money. Another distraction psyop.

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    Just got this hot off the press, don’t think they have announced this one yet. The first introduction to the ADAM project.



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    Can anyone remind me of the short allegorical story i read of engineers brought in to "back engineer" a jet pack that was destroyed in a test flight killing the inventor as well. The engineers work feverishly to try and "back engineer" another jet pack from the test debris, only to find out once completed that the initial "test" and story were no more than a ruse ?
    Methinks I see the same going on here !
    That was a Stan Deyo talk he gave in Roswell
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    I just watched the Hal Puthoff video that was posted into the avalon libray and right from the get go Hal is talking (favourably) about a Peter Strzok. It just has to be the same one that is the most worst form of POS that draws breath, by mine and others observations of him testifying before the congress or Senate on alleged Trump collusion with Russians. Why he has not yet been arrested and jailed is anyones guess, as he is a proven liar and quite happy to break the law and say F you to the rest of America as far as integrity of the voting system in that he and Lisa Page are HRC supporters using their official capacity to prevent a candidate from being elected by fabricating grounds for a judge to sign a FISA warrant.

    Just more evidence about TTSA being a whole lot of nothing to take your time and your money. Another distraction psyop.
    Well, at least Peter got let go and there is talk on the radio about the emails between him and Lisa Page before the election. Mysteriously, five months of emails disappeared due to a technical glitch. Go figure. Most people who called in to comment were outraged and not all of them were Trump supporters.
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    Quote Posted by Amenjo (here)
    Just got this hot off the press, don’t think they have announced this one yet. The first introduction to the ADAM project.



    Love and Truth,


    Amenjo
    So we've had to wait 2 months for a 3 min video in which it's stated that they don't know if it (public material seen picked up) is real.
    So after 2 months they can't give us any data on what they picked up in the ADAM video? Really? Oh my word...

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    Default Re: To The Stars Academy's Hal Puthoff about metamaterials, AATIP, Bob Bigelow, and more

    Bumping this important thread (and Hal Puthoff's important presentation, which is in the Avalon Library here) with this fascinating 30 minute interview with Dr Jack Sarfatti, also about metamaterials and how they may function to enable UFOs to do their magical space-time distortion thing.


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