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    Default Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Hello, Everyone: do please critique this carefully, and comment intelligently. I welcome all views.

    It may be nothing, or it may be something. The presentation (on 12 May, 2018, over 11 weeks ago) was only published yesterday. The promised Part 2, a continuation of the same presentation after a 15 minute break, doesn't seem to be on the net.

    It's about far more than his claimed (and admittedly very well-argued) case for a cover-up of the well-known little Atacama being that featured in the documentary Sirius.

    Greer goes on to dismantle Tom Delonge's To The Stars Academy (TTSA). Everything he states about them is very credible, in my opinion, and is very well worth listening to.

    Then, just after the hour mark, Greer suddenly starts presenting new information about a major planned false flag event. This is what I've started this thread to discuss. I've made some timestamp notes, which I'll post below the video.



    1:00:45: He refers to an 'extinction level event' that he says he's been briefed on in the last month (i.e. April 2018), that we've not got much time, that’s it’s “been approved”, and then he comes to a full halt and appears to change the subject. It seemed likely to be real. I don't think he's that good an actor.

    1:01:06: He says: "We have little time."

    1:08:30
    : He refers to an "apocalyptic event" that's been "greenlighted and approved". Then he comes to a halt again.

    1:13:30: He refers to his concern that the group (meaning TTSA and those behind them, strongly selling the idea of an alien 'threat') will try to "accelerate the false flag".

    1:16:35
    : He mentions "the weaponization of interdimensional portals".

    1:24:20: He implies he's provided an extensive brief for Trump on UFOs, when he was nominated. And he suggests he's indirectly provided information for Putin.

    1:32:04: He says he's been asked by someone with close ties to the Kremlin AND someone with close ties to the US National Security State and the President — two people who don’t even know each other — to write "an announcement speech" for them. (He says he'll read his draft to the audience later that evening.) He asked them why, and they each said because “it’s been authorized”.

    1:34:30
    : He says the plan is for us to "sink into the worst catastrophe in recorded human history."

    1:35:24
    : He says: "There's about 5 billion of the 7.5 billion lives hanging in the balance." Then he says: “That’s an accurate number.”

    Then there's a 15 minute break, followed by two more hours. But as best I know, that's not been published.

    ***

    Again, the above just came out yesterday, on his Sirius Disclosure channel. I only realized this half way through, when I was wondering how the h*** I'd never heard about any of this at all.

    As many reading this will know, I'm no fan of Steven Greer, and have been a very strident critic of his for several years. There are other threads about this. But here, there's not a single thing he says that I know about, or can check, that I'd disagree with. It's actually understated, measured, calm, undramatic and precise.

    His pauses to compose himself seemed to me likely to be real (though one can never quite tell!), and all I can say is that this got my strong attention.

    I do NOT know why this was only published 11 weeks later, or why there's no sign yet of the potentially very important promised Part 2.

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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Well, I started watching at 59:00, and he’s talking about getting the truth out to just 1% of the population of the planet. “1% could create a paradigm shift into a new civilisation”, he says, and then comes the caveat, “Otherwise, we’re slated for an extinction level event”.

    So, when nothing happens, and the world keeps turning as normal, he can turn around and say “we did it! We changed the paradigm. Your meditations paid off”.

    Everything that comes after his “otherwise” statement would be hypothetical and preconditioned on society NOT making a leap to a new civilisation. Yet, anyone who studies geopolitics to a reasonable degree, would realise a new civilisational paradigm is right on the horizon anyway, so, it’s unlikely any of it will come to pass imo.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    From the other video, "Sirius" he seems to building us up to accepting a false flag involving aliens, on a number of levels. So, he seems to be warning us this will be the next step taken by whoever or whatever is really running this world.

    That coupled with Trump saying we need a Space Force and the ptb upping the anty to get more money and control, it seems they have nowhere to go but "up" so to speak in the whole false flag maneuver.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Well, I started watching at 59:00, and he’s talking about getting the truth out to just 1% of the population of the planet. “1% could create a paradigm shift into a new civilisation”, he says, and then comes the caveat, “Otherwise, we’re slated for an extinction level event”.

    So, when nothing happens, and the world keeps turning as normal, he can turn around and say “we did it! We changed the paradigm. Your meditations paid off”.

    Everything that comes after his “otherwise” statement would be hypothetical and preconditioned on society NOT making a leap to a new civilisation. Yet, anyone who studies geopolitics to a reasonable degree, would realise a new civilisational paradigm is right in the horizon anyway, so, it’s unlikely any of it will come to pass imo.
    I actually stop the event a while back ...... I mean extension level event (yes I know it should say extinction) just like I did in the PBS scifi movie '' The Lathe of Heaven'' (BTW worth seeing and no spoilers please )



    I find the different UFO camps infighting on who we should follow or believe curious.

    Greer is always a famous person name dropper but Putin and Trump won't send him a memo saying thanks for briefing Steven or produce even a parking stub

    Wilcock is a insider insider no names dropper who doesn't even use dead drops in parks or zoos to talk to his 35 levels above the president insiders he talks to them on his phone or Gaia.

    I'll watch this but Greer hasn't said squat about his former employee Emery Smith one way or another and its not like he doesn't know what Wilcock is pushing. So Greer is in the woodshed with me for the time being............. thanks for all the fish, don't panic and we should have submitted our protest on the hyperspace bypass to the Vogons.

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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    if/IF there will be an EXTINCTION event no-one will be able to forsee this- it's always been that way throughout history and will continue to be so in the future-

    geologists don't know everything- not by a long shot-

    life is nothing but surprises-

    "life is what happens while one is busily making plans"- John Lennon

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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    In my view, this Extinction Level Event is not going to happen. Not to the everyday people, anyways.

    What we already see happening at present is the Deep State, & whatever factions, departments & compartments that it consists of - the Deep State is being threatened right now, as we speak. Its an Exitinction Level Event for the military-industrial / Deep State / bankster / cabal complex.

    Having said that, yes, certainly the cabal will be pulling out all the stops in a last ditch effort to hang onto their position of control. And, the best way to is to 'create' an alien threat.

    Steven Greer is trying to create a movement. But, to me, that movement has already begun, its already well on the way. Whatever event that the cabal will be throwing at the rest of the human population on this planet will blowback onto them. Its more than obvious that this is happening as we speak with Trump now. IMO, Trump is on the leading edge of what is coming to the rest of this planet. Its just the beginning.

    I'm not so much into the writings in the Bible, or into religion so much, but it is written in the Bible scriptures. Whatever event the cabal will attempt to pull off, it will only cause the human population to become more awakened. Humanity will be challenged. And in being challenged, it will cause the consciousness of mankind to be piqued & rise in a crescendo.

    We eventually will be challenged more than we ever have been before. We will be challenged - to the point that we will eventually do works greater that those that have become enlightened before us. If you want to talk about an event, I'm talking a mass enlightenment event taking place on this planet.

    That is how I see it. So really, there's really nothing that one can do. There will be a percentage of the population that will be called forth. They will be filled with something that will spontaneously drive them to do what will be needed.

    Its an exciting time to be alive.
    So, in the meantime, just enjoy the show as it unfolds.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Say what? More fake news?

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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    if/IF there will be an EXTINCTION event no-one will be able to forsee this
    He's talking about a giant False Flag. Not an unforeseeable geological event.

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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Maybe it has something to do with Eddie Page
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9S...6BpfD-m0db6qOg

    He's claiming that he has the green light on activating the Yellow Stone caldera volcano.

    Eddie is one of 33 children born in 1953 and each born about 20 minutes apart. These children were sired by an alien named Valiant Thor (who according to Gerald Clark is none other than the Annunaki heir Enlil). Thor visited earth and meant with President Eisenhower and others who refused to take Thor's advice and help. https://www.disclose.tv/valiant-thor...of-1200-307285

    NOTE: Eddie claims Thor was from Pleiades and NOT from Venus and that many other aspects of the story as spoken about by Dr. Stranges was wrong.

    Eddie has a very interesting story and apparently is eclectically very bright and also worked with the CIA most of his life. He basically claims that he and these children were put here on earth as humans by Thor. Eddie was raised under surrogate earth parents, and I think one or two of the children could observe humans and determine if we are worth saving as a species (I think it was a secret exactly which one, hence the need for 33 as a sort of rouse).

    If I'm not mistaken Eddie claims he is the equivalent of a Biblical type avenging-angel and is the one who determines if he should allow the so-called Dragon to be let loose and destroy the earth by Fire, as was prophesied in the Bible. And the way Eddie would destroy the earth by fire was through unleashing the huge Yellow Stone caldera volcano. He claims to have woken it up now and also knows when his father Thor will return to earth (the year 2028). Whether or not Eddie will fully unleash the volcano has yet to be determined, although he doesn’t look upon humanity as particularly a good thing.

    If you look into the various translations of Sumerian tablets you find that the Annunanki seem to be behind everything on earth (aka The Illuminati). And ever since Enki saved humanity from the flood (via Noah) and convinced the council to leave us alone for a time while we are yet again observed weighed and measured, could it be that we have been found wanting and the Annunaki have finally decided to terminate the genetic experiment known as humanity?

    Well, Yellowstone has been more active than usual and many people in the know are concerned.

    Billions would die but not necessarily make humans extinct. This could be considered a false flag according to negative Alien standards.




    IMHO:

    There is something called "The EVENT". I feel this is by Far the BEST end-time/disclosure scenario I have ever heard. Partial-disclosure won’t work because the powers-that-be would have us assimilated and totally controlled during that period of time. And the scenario where humanity is destroyed in order for us to start over or just be erased (such as what Eddie is speaking about) isn’t an answer either because it doesn’t educate us WHILE we are alive when we can consciously use our free-will since all we need is proper education and not being suppressed or manipulated by the Annunaki or ANY evil force in order to flourish.

    So, full-disclosure and this EVENT type scenario where advanced beings help rid us of the negative alien threat and allow us to catch up on who we actually are and discover our full potential without repression/suppression seems the best answer.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

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    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    if/IF there will be an EXTINCTION event no-one will be able to forsee this
    He's talking about a giant False Flag. Not an unforeseeable geological event.
    yes, where 2 billion people may die - an extinction event duly prepared to be implemented 10 years earlier than planned, therefore not a natural event, although geological manipulation may be part of it.

    Bill, i know or rather think that you and Kerry did not trust Dr Greer. i also know or think that he has been pushed aside in favor of Tom Delonge and he may be worried about that, or else, that he has turned against its handlers and want to come clean, not wanting the death of 2 billions, or else....???

    What do you think about that last presentation of Dr Greer? Should he be trusted, has he turned around?
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    This whole thing is interesting because Greer has always been a proponent of positive aliens being in control. Not much control in Billions dying.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Greer is always interesting to listen to and whether he's completely believable or he's not, he brings an interesting perspective to the conversation.

    However...

    ...if an extinction-level event was "greenlighted 30 days ago" then it would have been approved sometime in April so why wait to publish it now? Why not earlier? Because if something is about to be unleashed, and there's not much time left to prepare, waiting 2 1/2 months to get the word out seems counterproductive.

    And then I believe I heard him ask for funding for two films which he seems to say might change the collective consciousness enough so that the extinction level event won't happen, or did I not hear him correctly? I noticed that his voice got louder as he discussed the extinction event and then would drop off into comments I couldn't hear leading me to wonder why. Is it just his speaking style or was it done for effect?

    If an extinction event has been approved then why would there be any other option that didn't result in the same? It's not that I don't believe that our unified presence can't redirect this stuff into something better, because I certainly do. But it felt like he was using fear to sell something, in this case, funding for two more movies. I understand that this is how he gets these projects funded, but don't tell me that I may be about to die and then ask for money for a project that could let me survive.

    It's odd. And I'm tired of odd.

    It's not that I don't appreciate the commitment Greer has to the disclosure movement or the contribution he's made, but the minute someone starts asking for money, I can't help but give them the side-eye.


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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    I’ve only just begun watching it and it was published in December 2016, but here’s Greer discussing “The Cosmic False Flag”

    Duration: 3 hours, 7 minutes
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

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    if/IF there will be an EXTINCTION event no-one will be able to forsee this
    He's talking about a giant False Flag. Not an unforeseeable geological event.
    yes, where 2 billion people may die - an extinction event duly prepared to be implemented 10 years earlier than planned, therefore not a natural event, although geological manipulation may be part of it.

    Bill, i know or rather think that you and Kerry did not trust Dr Greer. i also know or think that he has been pushed aside in favor of Tom Delonge and he may be worried about that, or else, that he has turned against its handlers and want to come clean, not wanting the death of 2 billions, or else....???

    What do you think about that last presentation of Dr Greer? Should he be trusted, has he turned around?
    A giant False Flag where an alien presence, maybe partly real and the larger part staged, will be portrayed or set-up as an evil and imminent threat to humanity. The reaction to save or defend humanity from this imminent threat,
    and the resulting destruction will be the second stage of the False Flag and cause the death of five (5) billion people.

    I believe Kerry Cassidy had a falling out with Greer backstage but she later mentioned that it was mostly a misunderstanding from her part, and no chance to go into it further due to time constraints at the time.


    In this presentation it becomes clear that Greer's EGO was hurt, and that ego will not fit in a surgical glove size 9 any time soon. He is hurt, angry and emotional but there is more to it than that.
    The information he presents and the way he presents it gives me no reason to doubt that he is;

    1. Trying to convince the audience to sponsor his two new films and make them within twelve months.
    2. Trying his best to achieve the 1% he thinks is needed to kickstart humanity into the new 500K year cycle in a positive way and avert disaster and the false flag.

    And if you were to ask me if I think that a false flag is being prepared and has indeed recently been green-lighted, I would say; it's logical that it has.

    That doesn' t mean it will happen and not this year either.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    It's very logical, Bill, I can see why it triggered your alarm sensor.

    If they are on the brink of going down, from their perspective, a deliberate massive act of global self destruction puts their advantage back in place.

    They have underground facilities, we don't.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    I'm not permitted to use certain words on youtube, like false flag. I already have 1 community strike for a gardening video.

    Anyways, here's my current stance on the major assertion greer makes, in 7 minutes 30 seconds. Bottom line-- don't make us wait for a couple of movies to educate the 1% needed to stop this catastrophe.




    And yes, I do believe that Greer has made a shift in his presentation, which truly, honestly concerns me. We need full disclosure on this extremely serious claim.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    I like your video, Joe. Very succinct, calm, and reasonable. I myself, although I respect Dr. Greer and his laudable efforts, do not feel at all compelled to start stocking up on supplies. He might have credible sources, he might not. Who knows? As far as this extinction level event is concerned, I see no other way through than by some sort of major catastrophe, manmade or otherwise. This system cannot continue. The writing's on the wall...

    It doesn't take secret contacts at the pentagon to know that much.

    If it is planned, then it could be survivable. If it is some sort of natural disaster or series of them, then we might be in for a rougher ride.
    Why Not?

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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Brilliant Steven Greer talking/answering questions at the premiere of the film Unacknowledged,
    Unacknowledged Red Carpet Premiere;



    Dr Steven Greer 2017 - UNACKNOWLEDGED AN EXPOSE OF THE GREATEST SECRET IN HUMAN HISTORY;
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    I appear to be stuck at the billions of dead scenario? How is such a calamity cleaned up? I would guess that all power is gone and we are back to candle light or worse.

    If we are to rebuild what is the likely hood that down the track this doesn't happen again? I am thinking fairly low.

    I just don't want to come back after I leave.

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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    From earlier this year...

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    The Carol Rosin Show

    Dr Steven Greer | Global Briefing & Universal Peace

    Broadcast & Published 10th January 2018

    Steven Greer’s time sensitive SPECIAL UPDATE BRIEFING: For superpower leaders and all world leaders, for those who can influence them, including for all listening. This unique presentation ranges from relevant global history to the universal happenings today, related to all interconnected global and universal issues and HOW TO get from here to real peace in space and on earth. Time-sensitive, this is about what TO DO, immediately, today.

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    Dr Steven Greer | After Chaos & Averting Extinction

    Broadcast & Published 25th January 2018

    In this SPECIAL interview, Dr. Steven Greer presents urgent new insights for policymakers and those who can influence them. In addition, he relates his astonishing personal experiences with the ET reality that shaped his entire future. This is a new talk about how we can and must dismiss old, negative disinformation in order to face Reality with facts, truth, and most important, the COURAGE to speak them despite predictable ridicule or discrediting. RIGHT NOW! Dr. Greer moves from international to universal, multi-dimensional thinking, with a new language, concepts, and actions. This is how we must deal with today’s chaos, and the on-going and accelerating human extinction process that all of us face. There is an urgent responsibility for every aware individual, including and especially policymakers (and media representatives), that includes the fact that we must focus on the important emphasis on peace in space, including with our cosmos neighbors. Peace in the cosmos is the NEW, overriding element in the equation to bring peace to our world(s). In his inimitable way, Dr. Greer offers new insights into what is happening now and to the truth about who we really are in the universes. These facts and this vision are our To Do List! They desperately require the COURAGE of every aware person on Mother Earth, right now, to educate ourselves and others in every way we can. Dr. Greer offers resources. Here is profoundly important new information for our very survival.

    Contact Carol Rosin:
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