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    Bill, i know or rather think that you and Kerry did not trust Dr Greer. i also know or think that he has been pushed aside in favor of Tom Delonge and he may be worried about that, or else, that he has turned against its handlers and want to come clean, not wanting the death of 2 billions, or else....???

    What do you think about that last presentation of Dr Greer? Should he be trusted, has he turned around?
    I sensed a different energy here, I have to say. As I mentioned, although I normally disregard everything Greer says (for quite good reasons), this time he really caught my attention, hence this thread.

    Of minor note in his talk, but I think maybe significant, was that he stressed that he doesn't know what the Atacama being is (his whole presentation about that part was very measured and balanced), and also that in the bigger picture it really wasn't very important in itself, but was an interesting case study about how the media operates... which really seems to be true. He could have spun both those issues in a more sensational way, but he didn't.

    It was the understatement of everything he said that I thought was a little different. And, as I also wrote, there wasn't a single thing he said which I knew about, or could actually check, that I felt was incorrect. That too was a change.

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    I'm struggling to glean any benefit to anyone from this.
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    Eh hem.

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    At 1 hr 33 mins in, he seems to be morphing the focus from a 'catastrophic event' into a 'disclosure event', where it is up to 'us' to either become enlightened or not.

    I think we have all heard this similar spin before. He is so willing to get you to 'throw out everything you know about UFOlogy' and 'forget the UFO 'buffoons', because he claims almost all UFO information has been a mass disinformation campaign.

    Towards the last 15 minutes of the video, Greer seems like he is just amping up his next movie that will be 'ten times more this and better at that'.

    I find it difficult to believe that Greer had just wrote the 'disclosure briefing at five AM that morning'. How extraordinary that he was approached by the two most powerful institutions in the world to draft what would become the most important words ever spoken or written in humanity? And then he is going to use his audience as test subjects for this briefing?

    I really wish I could see what that letter said when he read it so I could think about and analyze it.

    I know as a fact that this man has defiantly seen some s**t and probably been privy to a lot of information in his lifetime, I think most of his information here can be taken with a grain of salt.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Physical world science and history proclaims nazi held tech and imminent doom. Emotional (aka: astral) ideas claim relief for humanity. We have shared these balances for years and our world has for eons, (too long).

    Only by trekking these paths of info and testing the results, could we sort relevance vs irrelevance. We got varied results, individually situated, through all life. Tastes drew us through fictions and illusions. Life fits the holographic dream.

    We have climbed different ladders. We might have questioned what is up, or what is down. What is light and what is dark. What is true or false. What advances consciousness or what retards it.

    I feel most agreeable with a source rearranging meanings and words: Esoterics might sound too complex or arcane. It’s lost treasures are now subtly revealed. It comes through, just right for me. Older, formal English, referencing humanity up through the 1900s, (which demands contextualization for the 2000s). Awakening to realms beyond, which regulate earth’s progress, timelessly. It is the total human perception-deduction, which sets our fate.

    Disciplined consciousness expansion is our best option by far. I’m piecing these ideas together, from: http://laurency.com
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Hey, Joe! Enjoyed your video....as always!

    Let's see.....how many "extinction events" have there already been on this earth?! The one thing I have learned on Avalon is to Question Everything!!

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    I'm going to list all the things that seem to me to make little or no sense. But I still have quite a lot of attention on this.
    • The video was uploaded over 11 weeks after the presentation. Why the delay?
    • Where's Part 2?
    • Why is there nothing at ALL about this on http://SiriusDisclosure.com?
    • Who chose the title of the video "The Atacama Cover-up"? (This is not what the presentation is really about.) Greer is referred to in the third person in the video text. It wasn't him who wrote this.
    • Where's the text of his draft disclosure announcement that he said he'd go on to read, after the break?
    • Has something happened to cause Greer to go silent about this? (If so, who decided to upload the video, so much later? Could there be a conflict or disagreement within his organization?)
    • What kind of event could possibly be approved and greenlighted to threaten the lives of 5 billion people? Even if this is nonsense, Greer himself evidently believed it enough to tell his audience, either feigning or genuinely showing real emotion.
    About the last item: what kind of event Greer believes (or knows) this might possibly be — whether it's real or not. Just regard this as a totally theoretical thought experiment to help us analyze the credibility and logic of what Greer seemed to be saying.

    He says that 5 billion lives "hanging in the balance" is an "accurate number". A very high degree of control is implied for that kind of forecast to be accurate, whatever the scenario might be.
    • A global epidemic. Easy to control with classified antidotes to deploy if needed. (But how could this possibly be connected with an 'ET threat'? Remember that he said that TTSA, or those behind them, having sold the idea of potentially hostile ETs with the help of the media, might 'try to accelerate the False Flag'.)
    • Steering a small asteroid into the Pacific. (Very dangerous, though: 100% impossible to control the huge effects.)
    • Activating a supervolcano. (Again, impossible to control the effects.)
    • Planetary climate triggered, or amplified, to be so extreme and unstable that widespread crop failures result in global famine. (For those with extreme paranoia: taking wild speculation to an extreme, this might be what's already been 'greenlighted' and set into motion.) But again: there's no possible 'ET threat' connection.
    • A False Flag 'Independence Day' ET attack, using what Greer described as "weaponized interdimensional portals" could maybe just conceivably be simulated. But how does that imperil 5 billion people?
    If you take these various pieces and spread them all out on a large table... none of them fit together.

    And: whatever Greer believes might be set in motion, a Hollywood movie about nice aliens definitely isn't going to change a thing.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    We might need to think of it in a more multidynamic ( is that a word ? ) way.

    What those people usually do is hide something in the chaos of the primary event, as in "it's a pefect day for releasing some bad news".
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    [...]
    • A global epidemic. Easy to control with classified antidotes to deploy if needed. (But how could this possibly be connected with an 'ET threat'? Remember that he said that TTSA, or those behind them, having sold the idea of potentially hostile ETs with the help of the media, might 'try to accelerate the False Flag'.)
      [...]
    If you take these various pieces and spread them all out on a large table... none of them fit together.
    Novichok... Russians ETs... Novichok... Russians ETs... Novichok... Russians ETs... Novichok... Russians ETs!...

    Some of you may be familiar with the historical observation of the association between a "mist" and the propagation of the "Black Death"?

    Such a mist could be attributed to either ETs or some comet/asteroid tail foretelling of a new "Panspermia"...


    PS: Incidentally, this brings the discussion regarding this new movie: Avengers Infinity War, Sympathy For The Devil as the newest illuminati propaganda blockbuster.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Way back when I first joined current Avalon there was a very real sense that something dynamic was going to happen.
    Ground crews were formed to be able to live off the grid, be self sufficient.
    Most people here really believed this--me included.
    There would be massive flooding , no power, or water supply--take to the hills etc.
    Much food and water stored away.
    Exciting times--friendships made-- many positive things as a result of this.

    HOWEVER nothing happened.
    Guess who was championing this!!!

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    I'm odd man out with all of this disclosure stuff, as it was totally foreign to me five years ago, but since it is such a small community, can't someone contact anyone connected and just ask?
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    I'm odd man out with all of this disclosure stuff, as it was totally foreign to me five years ago, but since it is such a small community, can't someone contact anyone connected and just ask?
    It's a valid question. But Greer is very much in a bubble with his own team, and he doesn't play that well with most other researchers. I don't know a single person who's close to him. And no way would he ever return my call.

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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    My first question was, what deed/event could even do what he claims? Cleanly eliminate 5 billion people, but reliably spare 2.5 billion? That's quite precise. It's technically possible I suspect, as we cannot know the true/real military capacities of the MIC.

    But Greer has always had...a slithery sort of aura to me. With his track record in this field, and a possibly sordid backdrop to it too, I'm more sceptic than acolyte when it comes to what he has to say. He seems to have adopted a Wilcockesque brand of rhetoric – a 'give me money, and I'll give you the truth' sort of deal. He may be on to something, but I would very much want to know who he's been talking to.

    At 1:35:30, after saying 5 billion lives were at stake, someone off-stage signals/whispers to him. Who is that, his handler? There follows an odd exchange, Greer checks himself, as if he's messed up by saying too much. Genuine, or theatre?

    If white hats are trying to get the word out, why leak through Greer? Do it the proper way, through the proper channels, the WH, the press, even the alt-press and it's many outlets. If it's black hats feeding him intel, and I presume the same who are behind the evil plan, why issue a warning at all? The only reason for that I can think of: it's bogus, and the story is fear porn.

    But maybe I'm missing something, I haven't yet had a chance to watch the whole thing.

    Either way, personally I have doubts that the mass slaughter of humankind – on this vast scale – is (thankfully) even possible. Beyond the corridors and courts of human judgement and rule I believe there is a higher power still – call it what you will. Even if an act of violence by the hand of one, or a few, could murder 5 billion people, I just 'feel' that that would not be allowed, and would be thwarted any which way.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    If Greer isn't making it all up, the strongest part of it is that 2 different power groups asked him to write a script for an announcement. That very much implies that it's about exopolitics or alien invasion false flag, or a real one they want his positive spin on.

    The only way I can link that up with a global decimation of humanity is if they intend to make it look like the aliens clobber us with an epidemic.

    It seems far fetched but it would be a brilliant way to split us into 2 camps. The normies would blame the people who say nice things about higher conciousness and more intelligent beings.

    The epidemic, of course would be nothing to do with aliens, but straight out of the cabal's secret labs.

    Lots of microbiologists have died, trillions of dollars have gone missing, the cabal is exposed. With assets like that, we'd be nuts to think they wouldn't use them.

    But I'm rambling around here pretty clueless.

    edit to add:

    Here's a thought. Trump and his band of generals have a LOT of clout but they are not in full control of the most advanced assets. The cabal are contemplating deploying the magical tech stuff against Trump's best clout.

    To do that, they must OUT it to the public. They are trying to put together the right spin for that huge move. Among many implications of such a move, one would be to weaken the US miltary down to below what China can muster, a posive, in their eyes, I'm sure. They have been heading in that direction for years. This would just be a fix and a catch up in response to the calamity of Hillary losing in 2016.
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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    In my view, this Extinction Level Event is not going to happen. Not to the everyday people, anyways.

    What we already see happening at present is the Deep State, & whatever factions, departments & compartments that it consists of - the Deep State is being threatened right now, as we speak. Its an Exitinction Level Event for the military-industrial / Deep State / bankster / cabal complex.

    Having said that, yes, certainly the cabal will be pulling out all the stops in a last ditch effort to hang onto their position of control. And, the best way to is to 'create' an alien threat.

    Steven Greer is trying to create a movement. But, to me, that movement has already begun, its already well on the way. Whatever event that the cabal will be throwing at the rest of the human population on this planet will blowback onto them. Its more than obvious that this is happening as we speak with Trump now. IMO, Trump is on the leading edge of what is coming to the rest of this planet. Its just the beginning.

    I'm not so much into the writings in the Bible, or into religion so much, but it is written in the Bible scriptures. Whatever event the cabal will attempt to pull off, it will only cause the human population to become more awakened. Humanity will be challenged. And in being challenged, it will cause the consciousness of mankind to be piqued & rise in a crescendo.

    We eventually will be challenged more than we ever have been before. We will be challenged - to the point that we will eventually do works greater that those that have become enlightened before us. If you want to talk about an event, I'm talking a mass enlightenment event taking place on this planet.

    That is how I see it. So really, there's really nothing that one can do. There will be a percentage of the population that will be called forth. They will be filled with something that will spontaneously drive them to do what will be needed.

    Its an exciting time to be alive.
    So, in the meantime, just enjoy the show as it unfolds.
    Blessings and thank you for this Turiya

    For whatever it's worth, I've felt and feel the same way.

    Thank you for your elegant words at a time like no other.
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    Talking of "Panspermia," there is this comment on SOTT:
    History, however, has had its numerous devastating plagues that also seem to have had a 'cosmic connection' - read from this excellent SOTT Focus article New Light on the Black Death: The Viral and Cosmic Connection
    "Comets are vile stars. Every time they appear in the south, they wipe out the old and establish the new. Fish grow sick, crops fail, Emperors and common people die, and men go to war. The people hate life and don't even want to speak of it."
    -Li Ch'un Feng, Director, Chinese Imperial Astronomical Bureau, 648, A.D.

    That comment is regarding Jon Rappoport's article:

    SARS: Remember the pandemic that was going to wipe out humanity? We're still here. Aug 1

    ... which is about the forced vaccinations to counter W.H.O.'s "pandemics"... another way of getting rid of "useless eaters."
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Don't occultists supposedly have some code or belief that you give the victim a warning beforehand of what is to befall them? It could be subtle and perhaps go over the heads of the victims like a tent but nevertheless they publish or declare or manifest some type of warning, symbolic or flamboyant, whatever.

    I watched about 3/4 of the vid. I don't feel he's trying to start a movement. I did feel he had a definite purpose in speaking. It doesn't seem to make sense to us because making sense to us, explaining details to us, could be irrelevant. If his job is to carry out an occult warning to the targeted victims so they (our rulers) satisfy their own occult rules then he did his job and there probably won't be a Part 2.

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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    Just possibly Herve' there are some white hats that can stop worldwide pandemics pretty darned fast without vaccines - just sayin'

    As to Greer, don't get me started - sat next to him on a private "invite only" panel (a private meeting) and had a very clear probing exercise happen. Two-way. I won, he ran out of the meeting after revealing the inner him. Had another meeting that he did not expect I was there. He tried to blind me with his high powered green laser when he saw it was me in the audience. I wouldn't waste my time or spend any dialog with anything the fellow has to say about any 'predictions' or what he may think is 'inside' stuff. Not impressed one bit.
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    Default Re: Steven Greer's new assertion of a planned imminent catastrophic false flag event

    I am not making a judgement, merely an observation. I am no expert, but I have to agree with Bob's assessment.

    What I saw of him and Emery, all built up like some of the gym rats I see, I just got a really bad feeling about those two. And Emery was right there in all of it, gun conspicuously on his right hip. Like they were playing the part of some bad ass mother ****ers. Sort of imposing their physical presence on us. It was just weird.
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