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    Hey All,

    Just reading about the assassination attempt against the Venezuelan president, by a flying drone-like explosive.

    The attempt is one thing, however Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has already blamed Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos and those on the far-right of Colombia and Venezuela’s political spectrums!

    Then to complicate things further: "Maduro also claimed that a preliminary investigation shows that the people behind the attack lived in Florida, and called on President Donald Trump for help in prosecuting them.

    “Already, the first investigations show that those intellectually and financially responsible for this attack live in the United States of North America, in Florida,” Maduro said, according to the Washington Post’s translation of the speech.

    “I hope the government of Donald Trump is willing to combat terrorist groups that want to attack presidents of peaceful nations.”

    A group named Soldados de Franelas (Soldiers in t-shirts) has also claimed responsibility for the attack on Twitter.

    In a series of tweets, the group said it planned to fly two drones “loaded with C4” to the presidential box, but it was shot down by snipers before it reached the target. HuffPost has reached out to the group for comment.

    I hope this doesn't turn into a crazy geopolitical situation.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0de86f4a21721

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45073385

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    Default Re: Some Troubling Developments in Venezuela

    Total BS, he wishes. There was a gasexplosion nearby that he want to use for his (or somebodys) agenda.

    From Associated Press (AP):
    In the case of three firefighters who did not want to be named, a gas tank exploded in a nearby apartment. So instead of an assassination there could have been a household accident.

    Venezuela is in a deep state and economic crisis. In 2016, a referendum on the demise of the president was stopped, in 2017 Maduro deposed the parliament. The gross national product is already shrinking for the fifth year in a row, the supply situation is bad. The International Monetary Fund fears more than a million percent inflation in the current year. Immediately before the explosion Maduro had spoken in his speech of the "hour of economic recovery".

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    Default Re: Some Troubling Developments in Venezuela

    Here's something else to add to the mix.

    I do believe Venezuela is the country that the Rockefellas used money they took out of 'oil' to put into canabis production 5 or 6 years ago. Funny how there is a rash of legalising states in the US now.

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    Correction. I was wrong, it was Uruguay.
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    HuffPost has reached out to the group for comment.
    Huffpost, ugh

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    Default Re: Some Troubling Developments in Venezuela

    Poor Venezuela. The U.S imposed samctions during a time when oil prices plummeted have destroyed the country. Viva Chavez!

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Here's something else to add to the mix.

    I do believe Venezuela is the country that the Rockefellas used money they took out of 'oil' to put into canabis production 5 or 6 years ago. Funny how there is a rash of legalising states in the US now.
    After AutumnW mentioned Chavez, I got a red flag about my previous statement. So I got onto google maps and checked.

    It wasn't Venezuela it was Uruguay where the Canabis production was launched by the Rockefellas.

    So, remove from mix.
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    Poor Venezuela. The U.S imposed samctions during a time when oil prices plummeted have destroyed the country. Viva Chavez!
    Yes, I'm sure that's why they're killing and eating their own pets now. It has nothing to do with the socialist policies. It's all the US's fault.

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    Yeah my first thought was this is all just a CIA driven false flag to destabilize the country and it's neighbors. Like many of the regime changes in the last 75 years, this one has all the hallmarks.

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    Venezuela and Colombia are particularly difficult to understand. Are there U. S.-supported death squads there for a long time, certainly. One gang they employed was none other than the Irish Republican Army. I am not so sure an unrelated statement from the Associated Press helps explain what happened the other day.

    It's not such a grand reach to place international skullduggery in Florida. I could make two phone calls and rustle up a major international arms dealer who has dispensed more armaments than were used in World War II located there, a famous name that some of you have probably investigated, and it's true. Not Viktor Bout but almost the same. Add in the drugs and various other legal businesses, and the place is basically a sieve through which most of the money and material goes.

    Drones are not that hard to get rid of, but if you don't, they can pack enough stuff to end some lives.

    It could be a Maduro power grab, or maybe he has good evidence for the links. However, I doubt Venezuela is going to bomb or invade the U. S. based on some "sexed up" garbage like the imperialists always use. "Plausible deniability" will likely backpedal it all to the group claiming responsibility with no ostensible U. S. involvement, and whatever Maduro says will be smeared even if true.

    Haven't most of the major investigations of the past several years gone nowhere? Almost all of the actual evidence I've ever seen was Russian. As they don't have much in Latin America, they probably have nothing to offer.

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    It could be a Maduro power grab
    This is my suspicion. Some kind of psy-op to try to salvage his legitimacy.

    If the US wanted him dead, he would be dead. There wouldn't be this ridiculous display of a drone blowing up many feet away from him and doing no real damage at all. Plus he just stands there "heroically" in the same place the whole time without even ducking or flinching while his security lines up as human shields in front of him.

    Latin Americans have always had this thing where they have to show how much bravado they have. It's a big thing in their culture, machoism. But if you don't at least duck or flinch when bombs start unexpectedly exploding above your head, something is wrong with that.

    His own people accused him of theatrics according to what Gateway Pundit reported, and since they're the ones eating their pet dogs on his behalf, they probably know him fairly well.

    I look at these guys like the Mexican cartels. They're all just mobsters. They don't need foreign backing to be mobsters. It comes very naturally to them.

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    It could be a Maduro power grab
    This is my suspicion. Some kind of psy-op to try to salvage his legitimacy.
    Precisely. This "show", as I'd label it, was a staged operation to rally and unite his already dwindling support base against a fabricated enemy, the big, bad USA. The country is in ruins, the people are fleeing in droves, and his own army views his regime in disfavor. A desperate smokescreen move from a man on his last leg.
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    Abby Martin & The Neo-Liberal Plan To Bring Down VenezueIa


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    Quote The Story of Venezuela’s Collapse
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    Bad leadership has destroyed Venezuela but one wonders who benefits from the policy of economic sanctions practiced by the US and other countries, which are hurting the common people even more?

    The Empire Files’ Abby Martin says that Venezuela’s humanitarian crisis has been manufactured by the local elite colluding with the US. Until recently, Martin was on the payroll of the Venezuelan government’s satellite TV network, teleSUR but her show’s budget was cut, due to the impact of US economic sanctions She joins Lee Camp to tell the “Bolivarian Revolution’s” side of the story. I am running this video not because I agree with her but because I don’t. This is not to say that everything she says is false. I think it’s important to listen to all sides of a story.

    Given the long history of US meddling in all of of Latin America and the likely involvement of the CIA in the 2002 failed coup against Hugo Chávez, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that what’s occurring in Venezuela is a massive asset-stripping event and a scramble by powerful interests to control the world’s largest underground oil reserves through economic warfare.

    Venezuela’s recession is the largest in the history of the Western Hemisphere, almost twice as large as the US’ Great Depression, with inflation hitting 61,000% as of last week and the economy shrinking by more than 30% over the previous 2 years.

    How did Latin America’s richest country go bust?

    Pressed by a subscriber, I spent all day researching the past 17 years of Venezuela’s history to answer that question and if there was ever a case where the truth of a situation depends on who’s telling it, this is it. While it can be agreed that the current chaos is being exploited and that the opposition party might be sabotaging the ruling Socialist regime in every way possible (if what Abby Martin says is true), nobody can say that the string of bad decisions that have culminated in this chaos weren’t made by Hugo Chávez and Nicolás Maduro. Attempts to assign blame elsewhere are just not true.

    Hugo Chávez was a charismatic Robin Hood-type figure who seized the opportunity caused by high oil prices in the mid aughts and early teens to embark on a disorganized program to redistribute the wealth of Venezuela, taking on billions of dollars of foreign debt to finance many social programs.

    The vast income from increased petroleum revenues was totally mismanaged, with no “rainy day” funds set aside. While other oil-producing nations, like Kazakhstan, took advantage of this market boom to create robust financial buffers for themselves, Chávez spent all of the money, like it was going out of style.

    Venezuela’s economy had been wracked by an oil glut in the mid-1990s. Rather than creating incentives to diversify the economy so that it could be more resilient to oil busts, Chávez nationalized the major industries and infrastructure and he ballooned the government bureaucracy with redundant agencies, which were expensive and unproductive. He also did nothing to stem corruption.

    Because oil prices were very high for a decade, it was easy for Venezuela to pay their bills – and for Chávez to look like a hero. Everything seemed to be working – if you can call stealing people’s businesses “working” – but as soon as oil prices went back down, the non-diversified economy, now further crippled by being nationalized began to falter, the imports became unaffordable and the foreign debts became unpayable. And then Chávez got cancer.

    Chávez’ hand-picked successor, Nicolás Maduro has ruled by decree since shortly after his contested election in 2013. In May of 2017, Venezuela’s opposition-majority congress was dissolved with legislative powers assigned to a supreme court staffed by judges controlled by Maduro. The Organization of American States (OAS) called this a “self-coup”. Abby Martin might tell you that it was necessary to dissolve congress because it was totally obstructionist but there is absolutely no way to justify his dissolution of the legislative branch of government! Sorry, Abby!

    Venezuela’s non-compliance with its own constitution led to the final nail in its coffin: US economic sanctions, starting in July 2017, followed by similar sanctions from Canada and Panama. With Venezuela’s ability to finance debt restricted to only 30 days, this has destroyed its financial system. Venezuela has mainly been servicing its $150 billion debt with $21 billion in gold reserves, which are expected to be gone by early 2018. Earlier hopes of opposition leaders, of restructuring their debts through the IMF, in a deal similar to that of Greece have gone out the window with the sanctions

    The hyperinflation, combined with the inability to create credit has led to a humanitarian crisis, with over 2 million people fleeing the country so far and an ecological crisis caused by oil wells that are not being maintained and leaking masses of toxic crude into South America’s largest lake, Maracaibo.

    Is it right and is it fair for powerful governments to add to the affliction of millions of innocent people? No. This is war. How will a people who have on average lost 24lbs (11kg) over the past year from lack of food ever turn this situation around?
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    CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan authorities said on Sunday they have detained six people over drone explosions the day before at a rally led by President Nicolás Maduro, as his critics warned the socialist leader would use the incident to crack down on adversaries.

    The suspects launched two drones laden with explosives over an outdoor rally Maduro was holding in downtown Caracas to commemorate the National Guard, Interior Minister Nestor Reverol said. One was “diverted” by security forces while the second fell on its own and hit an apartment building, Reverol said.

    The attack highlights Maduro’s challenges in maintaining control over the OPEC nation, where widespread food and medicine shortages have fueled outrage and despair everywhere from hillside slums to military barracks.

    “These terrorist acts represent a slap in the face to the expressed desire of the President of the Republic, Nicolas Maduro, for national reconciliation and dialogue,” Reverol said in a statement read on state television.

    State television footage of the rally showed Maduro startled by what appeared to be an explosion and footage later panned to soldiers lined up on a boulevard who chaotically broke ranks in what appeared to be a reaction to a second blast.

    The president later described the attack, which injured seven soldiers, as an assassination attempt.

    One of the suspects had an outstanding arrest warrant for involvement in a 2017 attack on a military base that killed two people, Reverol said, an incident that followed four months of anti-government protests.

    A second suspect had been detained during a wave of anti-Maduro protests in 2014 but had been released through “procedural benefits,” Reverol said, without offering details.

    He did not name the suspects.

    The arrests suggest the attack was less a military uprising than an assault led by groups linked to anti-Maduro street protesters, dubbed “The Resistance,” who have led two waves of violent demonstrations that left hundreds dead.

    That is consistent with the shadowy group that claimed responsibility for the attack, The National Movement of Soldiers in T-Shirts, whose website says it was created in 2014 to bring together different groups of protesters.

    Reuters was unable to independently confirm the involvement of the group, which did not respond to requests for comment on the arrest announcements, or identify any of its members.

    ‘I SAW THE LITTLE PLANE’

    Bolivar Avenue of downtown Caracas, where the incident took place, was calm on Sunday.

    Joggers and cyclists were taking up two of the lanes that are traditionally used for weekend recreation. The stage where Maduro spoke had been removed.

    Witnesses said they heard and felt an explosion in the late afternoon, then saw a drone fall out of the sky and hit a nearby building.

    “I heard the first explosion, it was so strong that the buildings moved,” said Mairum Gonzalez, 45, a pre-school teacher. “I went to the balcony and I saw the little plane ... it hit the building and smoke started to come out.”

    Two witnesses said they later saw security forces halt a black Chevrolet and arrest three men inside it.

    The security forces later took apart the car and found what appeared to be remote controls, tablets and computers, said the two, who identified themselves as Andres and Karina, without giving their last names.

    Opposition critics accuse Maduro of fabricating or exaggerating security incidents to distract from hyperinflation and Soviet-style product shortages.

    Leopoldo Lopez, formerly mayor of Caracas’ district of Chacao, for example, is under house arrest for his role in 2014 street protests that Maduro described as a coup attempt but his adversaries insisted were a form of free expression.

    “We warn that the government is taking advantage of this incident ... to criminalize those who legitimately and democratically oppose it and deepen the repression and systematic human rights violations,” wrote the Broad Front opposition coalition in a statement published on Twitter.

    Maduro’s allies counter that the opposition has a history of involvement in military conspiracies, most notably in the 2002 coup that briefly toppled socialist leader Hugo Chavez.

    “I have no doubt that everything points to the right, the Venezuelan ultra-right,” Maduro said on Saturday night. “Maximum punishment! And there will be no forgiveness.”

    Maduro, who blames the country’s problems on an “economic war” led by adversaries, during the course of his five-year rule has often announced having foiled military plots against him that he says are backed by Washington.

    U.S. national security adviser John Bolton told Fox News in an interview on Sunday that the United States was not involved in the blast.

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