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    Yer kno . . . I've just heard a reasonably well made case that losing the mid term elections could actually be very good for Trump in 2020.


    The part that reassured me things could be ok even if the left start impeachment is that they have to get it through the Sennett and that's probably never going to happen.


    Two years of blood thirsty left madness will hand the 2020 election to Trump on a silver platter. By then, silicon valley will have seen the damage their purge has done to their bottom line. Any money infusions to keep them on script will be observable.


    Well, it's a pretty good case.
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    The date of his "march" has already been announced, hasn't it?

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    The date of his "march" has already been announced, hasn't it?
    https://mobile.twitter.com/usminority

    Here is his Twitter, if you want to keep up with or look into him, more. Apparently linking to AJ was his unpardonable FB crime.
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    What I get with the Links is "Server Didn't Respond in Time"????
    I've noticed, it's a new development, the second link now throws an error message stating the video is corrupt while trying to play it within firefox. It worked just fine when I first tried it.

    My paranoid mind suspects AI interference.
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    Yer kno . . . I've just heard a reasonably well made case that losing the mid term elections could actually be very good for Trump in 2020.


    The part that reassured me things could be ok even if the left start impeachment is that they have to get it through the Sennett and that's probably never going to happen.


    Two years of blood thirsty left madness will hand the 2020 election to Trump on a silver platter. By then, silicon valley will have seen the damage their purge has done to their bottom line. Any money infusions to keep them on script will be observable.


    Well, it's a pretty good case.
    IMO, there is no room for stepping down, leaving the power stage. Trump's window is now or never, he's not a young man, and a second chance, if it ever happens, will consequently be too late, for America and by proxy, the rest of the world.
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    @ Norman - I'm not getting how losing is a good strategy.
    If the House votes for impeachment all it demonstrates is that we have 'in our face evil' instead of the usual sneaky, subterranean evil. In our face - daring us to do something about it - type Evil.
    If that's the case we're then supposed to believe the senators are so different they will save the day?
    I'm not seeing the good part of this 'case'.

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    woah. I didn't say it was a thing to plan or hope for. I meant it may not be the end of the world if it happens.
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    Amazon bans Michael Hoffman's books - interview

    The Saker The Unz Review
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    © Pascal Rossignol / Reuters

    A couple of months ago I did an interview with one of the foremost scholars of rabbinical Judaism, Michael Hoffman. The occasion was the release of his latest book The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome. At the time I did not expect to have to ask for a follow-up interview with him, but then I learned that Amazon had censored his books (please see Hoffman's own account of this here). Specifically, the ban is on three of his books. A complete ban (Kindle + printed book) on Judaism's Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded, as well as The Great Holocaust Trial: Revised and Expanded, while his textbook, Judaism Discovered, has been removed from the Kindle. I felt that I had to talk to him again and he kindly agreed to reply to my questions. I submit to you the full text of our Q&A which I will follow-up with a short commentary.
    The Saker: Please summarize what happened to your books and Amazon and tells us what specific explanations were given to you. Did Amazon ever offer you a "page and paragraph" list of "offending" passages? Do you have any means of knowing exactly what your book is being banned for?

    Hoffman: Whether it is Facebook, Google or Amazon, the excuse most often cited for suppression is "content guidelines' violation." Amazon notified us on August 13 that two of our titles, which they have been selling for years and in thousands of copies, Judaism Discovered, our 1100 page textbook published in 2008, and Judaism's Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded, published in 2010 - were being permanently removed after "review" by the Kindle Direct Publishing (KDP) unit of Amazon. A facsimile of the KDP notice can be viewed here:

    https://www.revisionisthistory.org/page8/page8.html

    In their e-mail they told us that "...we found that this content is in violation of content guidelines." In studying their content guidelines one encounters a vague, generic statement about not permitting that which is "offensive." There is no guidance as to what "offense" has suddenly arisen after these books were sold on Amazon for several years. Like the Red Queen in Wonderland who declared to Alice that, "A word is anything I say it is!" - that which "offends" is anything Amazon says it is. A third book, The Great Holocaust Trial: The Landmark Battle for the Right to Doubt the West's Most Sacred Relic, was also forbidden.

    Does Amazon have the chutzpah to publicly categorize these books as "hate speech" or some other alibi for censorship that could be contested? No, they do not. They leave authors and publishers twisting in the wind, making it more difficult to appeal the decision and report to the public on the tyranny. Although since they allow no appeal, it's a moot point. Personally, I have no doubt concerning why my books were censored.
    Full interview: http://www.unz.com/tsaker/on-the-cen...oks-by-amazon/


    Saker's comment:
    * * *

    Reading Hoffman’s words I thought that what happened to him is so typical of the Orwellian world we live in where the what I call the “Skripal rules of evidence” (aka “highly likely”) have replaced even basic evidentiary notions, a world in which false flag attacks are announced weeks in advance, a world in which the Planetary Hegemon has declared urbi et orbi that nothing in the body of international law applies to the “indispensable nation” (or to the parasitic host feeding off it) and where “might makes right” has become the motto by which everybody lives. Of course, the censorship of a book cannot be compared to the initiation of a war of aggression (which is the “supreme international crime” under international law: this was the conclusion of the Nuremberg Trial on this topic: To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole). Still, there is something uniquely devious and evil about the censorship of Hoffman’s books by Amazon, several things in fact:
    • What is attacked in not a person or even a group, but ideas, arguably the most precious attribute of mankind. This is therefore not only an attack on a human being, but an attack on the very notion of humanity as such
    • While the method is different, the intention here is no different from the book burnings of the Nazis or the Papacy except that in these latter cases it was obvious who ordered the burning of putatively “degenerate” or “heretical” books. Thus the ideological motive of the Nazis and Papists was always clear whereas in the case of Hoffman this ideological motive is hidden (even if obvious with anybody with a modicum of intelligence).
    • The ultimate hypocrisy lies in the fact that most so-called libertarians (from the Left to the Right) have nothing to say about this because this is not a case of censorship by government but the action of a corporation which has the “right” to do as it wishes, nevermind that the result is still a clear de-facto infringement of Hoffman’s First Amendment rights and the freedom of academic scholarship.
    • The US government and Congress, by allowing monopolistic corporations such as Amazon to have that kind of power are basically engaging in what I would call “censorship by proxy” which is to be expected from a deep state which now does almost everything by proxy in order to bypass fundamental US and international laws (“extraordinary renditions” anybody?).
    • Unlike the government which does have to produce at least some evidence before it can censor an individual or organization, a US corporation does not even have to justify itself by a single word. This is viewed as a triumph of deregulation by mindless libertarians who would gladly surrender all their freedoms as long as it is not to the state. In the real world, of course, they still end up handing over their freedoms to the state, except that the state is hiding behind their beloved corporations.
    It is also pretty obvious that those who might, at least in theory, have something to say about this kind of censorship by proxy remain silent because, at least according to them, Hoffman is an “anti-Semite” (which, having read many of his books, I can attest is a total falsehood; by way of evidence here are sample pages from his book:

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    Michael Hoffman‏ @HoffmanMichaelA

    Using hate speech accusations to suppress irrefutable facts, the troglodyte book-banning lobby pressured Amazon to suppress “Judaism’s Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded” containing documentation that advances human learning. Amazon complied, preferring censorship to knowledge.


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    and thus he is undeserving of support. So-called “anti-Semites” are, along with the pedophiles, the “consensus villains” of the day (I explain that in detail here) but what the anti-anti-Semites fail to realize is that each time a “consensus villain” is deprived from his rights, this sets a precedent for everybody else. This is why Yehuda Bauer warned us when he wrote:
    Thou shalt not be a victim, Thou shalt not be a perpetrator, And above all, Thou shalt not be a bystander”.
    To no avail, alas: we live in society of silent bystanders apparently! And when YouTube decides to silence all the Syrian state channels to better prepare for a false flag chemical attack, everybody looks away – “ain’t my problem”…

    We all know that in Europe (and in Russia) you can be jailed and your books banned if a court finds them to be “revisionist” or “anti-Semitic” or “hateful” and the like. But at least in Europe (and in Russia), you get your day in court and you can defend yourself against accusations which the state has to prove. In Russia, just last week, a man accused of “rehabilitating National-Socialism” (for reprinting an article by another author!) was found non guilty by a majority of jurors (5 to 3) (the punishment he was facing was a fine and several years in jail).

    Thank God, in the “home of the brave” no such thing could happen, right?!

    True, Hoffman does not risk jail (yet!). But in terms of crushing crimethink, I submit that the US system is much more effective because it allows the deep state to hide behind the veil of corporate malfeasance. There have been plenty of revolutions against a state, but I don’t know of any revolutions against the corporate dictatorship.

    You tell me: which is worse, the absence of freedom or the illusion of freedom?

    Personally, I find the latter much worse.

    I never expected the corporate presstitutes to really care about our freedoms, ditto for the libertarians and the progressive Left. They are all too busy with their narrow ideological agenda. As for the US academic world, it has shown its true face when it allowed the persecution of Professor Norman Finkenstein. But I have to say that I am shocked by the fact that the blogosphere and the so-called “alternative media” has remained so silent in the face of such a blatant censorship by proxy by the deep state against one of the foremost US historians.

    I urge all those reading these lines to speak up on Hoffman’s behalf and to support him by purchasing his superb and censored books. This is how every one of us can resist the Hegemon and his rule!
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    Fellow Avalononians, brothers and sisters, can I ask a question?

    I'm a full blown Alex Jones disciple, the only reason I have not posted on this thread sooner was because I was on sabbatical during it's creation, but I've watched this thread from sidelines.

    My question is, why the hell can't I play the Alex Jones videos on his website anymore.

    I'm down with the video player format he is using, I've been to the homepage for real.video and I've watched other videos no problem, but when I try to watch an Alex Jones video it will not load. I have the band width so that is not an issue.

    This is on my cell phone, my kindle and my home computer.

    It is seriously pissing me off.
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    Maybe the powers that be are screwing with it. Or his techies are goofing it up.
    On another note: Here is a great video on what the google tech heads are really intending. Infowars is just the first prime target.
    I think there is a real case for election meddling and racketeering.
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-...and-fraud.html

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    Fellow Avalononians, brothers and sisters, can I ask a question?

    I'm a full blown Alex Jones disciple, the only reason I have not posted on this thread sooner was because I was on sabbatical during it's creation, but I've watched this thread from sidelines.

    My question is, why the hell can't I play the Alex Jones videos on his website anymore.

    I'm down with the video player format he is using, I've been to the homepage for real.video and I've watched other videos no problem, but when I try to watch an Alex Jones video it will not load. I have the band width so that is not an issue.

    This is on my cell phone, my kindle and my home computer.

    It is seriously pissing me off.
    Much love to all.
    All seems fine on my end. Maybe THEY just don't like YOU watching his stuff!! You plus his info is too much of a threat, lol. Seems strange though I agree..x... N

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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Fellow Avalononians, brothers and sisters, can I ask a question?

    I'm a full blown Alex Jones disciple, the only reason I have not posted on this thread sooner was because I was on sabbatical during it's creation, but I've watched this thread from sidelines.

    My question is, why the hell can't I play the Alex Jones videos on his website anymore.

    I'm down with the video player format he is using, I've been to the homepage for real.video and I've watched other videos no problem, but when I try to watch an Alex Jones video it will not load. I have the band width so that is not an issue.

    This is on my cell phone, my kindle and my home computer.

    It is seriously pissing me off.
    Much love to all.
    All seems fine on my end. Maybe THEY just don't like YOU watching his stuff!! You plus his info is too much of a threat, lol. Seems strange though I agree..x... N
    If I were in the PTB, I would definitely make a hobby out of effing with Marcus. Just sayin'.

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    Quote Posted by James Newell (here)
    Maybe the powers that be are screwing with it. Or his techies are goofing it up.
    On another note: Here is a great video on what the google tech heads are really intending. Infowars is just the first prime target.
    I think there is a real case for election meddling and racketeering.
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-...and-fraud.html

    I'm 2/3 the way through this and I'm flabbergasted.


    I know why the founders of America made it a republic instead of a democracy. The way these people throw the term 'democratic process' around scares me to the bone.


    They absolutely HAVE to be stopped at all cost. Watching a country go under this kind of arrogant ignorance is like watching a person pushing their hand through a mincing machine, while saying, "don't worry, I have plenty of anaesthetic applied and it feels strangely euphoric, actually - you should try it, it's incredible".
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    Quote Posted by Sophocles (here)
    The deleted video was also uploaded by another Youtube user ("We are the Resistance") the same day and is still viewable:

    ...and there goes another (or the last) one...

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    [ I don't like the fact that he's had a few whiskeys, it makes him look bad. I wonder who's idea that was ]


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    Our physical death is but a New Beginning. Alex can feel amazed at the impact he has had upon our society & can look forward to his New Assignment!

    None of us are indispensable & we simply exit this "stage", hopefully having accomplished what our "task" here has been!

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    https://www.infowars.com/top-google-...search-engine/

    Quote A top Google employee has resigned in protest of the company’s work on a censored search engine for China.

    The employee, 32-year-old Jack Poulson, who worked as a senior research scientist for Google’s research and machine intelligence division, first raised concerns at the company in early August after documents published by The Intercept first revealed the project’s existence.

    Known internally as Dragonfly, the censored search engine would allow the Chinese government to keep its citizens from accessing any data it deems sensitive.

    Poulson, who is believed to be one of at least 5 employees to quit over Dragonfly, told The Intercept‘s Ryan Gallagher that he felt an “ethical responsibility to resign” over the “forfeiture of our public human rights commitments.”

    Aside from the censored search engine, Poulson also expressed concern over customer data being hosted in China, a country notorious for targeting dissidents.

    Poulson laid out his issues with Dragonfly and Google’s direction in a resignation letter to his superiors.

    “Due to my conviction that dissent is fundamental to functioning democracies, I am forced to resign in order to avoid contributing to, or profiting from, the erosion of protection for dissidents,” Poulson wrote. “I view our intent to capitulate to censorship and surveillance demands in exchange for access to the market as a forfeiture of our values and governmental negotiating position across the globe.”

    The decision to pursue such projects, Poulson further argued, could lead to other authoritarian regimes making similar demands.

    “There is an all-too-real possibility that other nations will attempt to leverage our actions in China in order to demand our compliance with their security demands,” Poulson wrote.

    Despite growing outcry over Dragonfly, Google has thus far refused to publicly comment on the project, only stating that it does not discuss “speculation about future plans.”

    Just last month a group of leading human rights organizations called on Google to immediately cease its involvement with the project.

    “Like many of Google’s own employees, we are extremely concerned by reports that Google is developing a new censored search engine app for the Chinese market,” a letter to Google CEO Sundar Pichai said. “The Chinese government extensively violates the rights to freedom of expression and privacy; by accomodating the Chinese authorities’ repression of dissent, Google would be actively participating in those violations for millions of internet users in China.”

    More than 1,400 Google employees also signed a similar letter last month demanding the company let its workers know what it was developing.

    “Currently we do not have the information required to make ethically-informed decisions about our work, our projects, and our employment. That the decision to build Dragonfly was made in secret, and progressed with the [artificial intelligence] Principles in place, makes clear that the Principles alone are not enough,” the letter said. “We urgently need more transparency, a seat at the table, and a commitment to clear and open processes: Google employees need to know what we’re building.”

    Google had previously built a search engine for China in 2006 but ended the program four years later after saying the Communist government attempted to curtail free speech and even tried to hack their computer systems as well.

    Pichai, Google’s CEO, also refused earlier this month to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee to answer questions regarding Dragonfly.
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