YouTube, Facebook, Apple and Spotify all ban Alex Jones & Infowars

[Valerie Villars]

Why does the above video/mp3 of Alex Jones stop at about the 14 minute mark? I can't get it to go beyond that though it says it is over 1 hour. It just keeps restarting itself after that 14 minute mark.

[norman]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
So if the social media is made public commons, and therefore the first amendment must be applied, where does that leave the application of the other amendments in the so called digital town square?

Within the borders of a sovereign nation state, quite clearly defined, I would say, but out in the global corporate world power grab, messy and dangerously one sided if the nation states don't agree to work tightly against it.






I've cherry picked what I think are the most poignant 2 chunks of Monday's A J show, and added a couple of callers who brought up Syria and Q at the end. Without the callers sections it's just over 15 minutes (and worth it)

MP3: 2018-09-10_AJ - The Flight to China, Syria, Q.mp3
https://app.box.com/s/0w09ubsmxinftq4s9a6es56rrl7hkgea

[Foxie Loxie]

Hey, Val...I'm having the same problem???

[avid]

Foxie/Valerie Visual download mp3 stopped, but sound carried on, most frustrating.

[norman]

Let me guess, you are using apple devices?


I just checked play and download with windows 7 PC using Firfox. Both functions worked.


I don't kow what to advise. I've had similar complaints from an iphone user about music files I host at the same account at box dot com.


If anyone can suggest a different hosting service that both supports playback and download for free account users and people with links, I'll have a try at that.


Oh wait, I got mixed up there. It's the youtube video you are talking about.


I get problems like that and worse when I try to play videos while I'm on line using Windows XP but things work fine with Win 7.

[Foxie Loxie]

I have a new DELL, Windows 10 & it's the first time I've ever had a problem with a video?

[Bill Ryan]

Val and Loxie are talking about the deleted video that I saved and uploaded. This one:

• http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_R..._Sept_2018.mp4

They're right (I've just discovered): the video freezes at 14:17, but the audio track continues. My best guess is that somehow the YT video was removed from YouTube while I was in the middle of downloading it, but somehow I got the audio track intact.

Apologies to all. There's nothing that can be done, I'm afraid.

[Foxie Loxie]

O.K......So the gist of it is that China had taken over the U.S. & our Congress & Senate haven't a clue what is REALLY going on!

Did I get that wrong? Technocrats?

[ThePythonicCow]

So far as a couple of us mods can figure, the audio of the Alex Jones "EMERGENCY REPORT" that Bill posted above in Post #371 works for the entire hour plus, but the video freezes at the 14:17 mark.

It would not surprise me if some systems freeze the entire thing, audio and video, at 14:17, depending on how well they handle, or don't handle, the errors at the 14:17 mark.

I just alerted Bill ... he might have more to say. However, because Youtube has taken that video down, there is no way known to him to try downloading it again.

===

P.S. -- Aha, as I was leisurely composing this post, Bill already did have more to say, now two posts back .

[norman]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Val and Loxie are talking about the deleted video that I saved and uploaded. This one:

• http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_R..._Sept_2018.mp4

They're right (I've just discovered): the video freezes at 14:17, but the audio track continues. My best guess is that somehow the YT video was removed from YouTube while I was in the middle of downloading it, but somehow I got the audio track intact.

Apologies to all. There's nothing that can be done, I'm afraid.

I have a complete version of it saved. I just checked it at the end, and the video is good all the way.


It's too big for my free box account from where you might have copied it to the library. Can I upload it direct somehow?

it's just over 400 meg.




Until Tuesday 18th, it can be downloaded from wetransfer:


https://we.tl/t-iW1JNBPz7q

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Val and Loxie are talking about the deleted video that I saved and uploaded. This one:

• http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_R..._Sept_2018.mp4

They're right (I've just discovered): the video freezes at 14:17, but the audio track continues. My best guess is that somehow the YT video was removed from YouTube while I was in the middle of downloading it, but somehow I got the audio track intact.

Apologies to all. There's nothing that can be done, I'm afraid.

I have a complete version of it saved. I just checked it at the end, and the video is good all the way.

It's too big for my free box account from where you might have copied it to the library. Can I upload it direct somehow?

it's just over 400 meg.

Excellent! Send it to my e-mail address by WeTransfer.com, and I'll upload it straight away to replace the video-frozen one.

[norman]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
So if the social media is made public commons, and therefore the first amendment must be applied, where does that leave the application of the other amendments in the so called digital town square?

Within the borders of a sovereign nation state, quite clearly defined, I would say, but out in the global corporate world power grab, messy and dangerously one sided if the nation states don't agree to work tightly against it.

On further consideration, I suppose there's quite a lot of work to do on completing the full 'set' of American rights in the digital world. Cookies are a problem. They have handy functions but they also invade privacy.

[Bill Ryan]

The important (and YouTube-deleted) Alex Jones video that had the video-sticking problems has been re-uploaded (Thx, norman ) — the link is the same. It's a larger file (419 Mb), and it works fine now.

• http://avalonlibrary.net/EMERGENCY_R..._Sept_2018.mp4

[PurpleLama]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
So if the social media is made public commons, and therefore the first amendment must be applied, where does that leave the application of the other amendments in the so called digital town square?

Within the borders of a sovereign nation state, quite clearly defined, I would say, but out in the global corporate world power grab, messy and dangerously one sided if the nation states don't agree to work tightly against it.

On further consideration, I suppose there's quite a lot of work to do on completing the full 'set' of American rights in the digital world. Cookies are a problem. They have handy functions but they also invade privacy.

Indeed, the implications for the 4th seem far more extensive an issue than even those around the 1st,

[Sophocles]

The deleted video was also uploaded by another Youtube user ("We are the Resistance") the same day and is still viewable:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XoDUyAjMIHs

[Magnus]

The bullies are ramping up - in a concerted effort!

As AJ said: "THIS IS NO DRILL"

Can the rollout of the totalitarian AI Nazi regime be stopped? I very very much hope so, but how!?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...u-terror-rules

"Tech Firms Face Hefty Fines Under New EU Terror Rules

Alphabet Inc.’s Google, Twitter Inc., Facebook Inc. and other tech firms could be slapped with fines as high as 4 percent of annual revenue if they fail to remove terror propaganda from their sites quickly enough under new European Union legislative proposals unveiled Wednesday.

The European Commission, the bloc’s executive body, proposed new legislation forcing internet companies to wipe Islamic State videos and other terror content from their services within an hour of notification for removal by national authorities. Companies would be fined by national governments in the event of systematic failures to remove content.

Wednesday’s proposal follows similar guidelines the EU issued in March. The EU at the time threatened to issue the regulation should the tech firms fall short of expectations.

Large tech platforms have made rapid improvements in their efforts to tackle terror content, partly thanks to automated tools, but the EU says some of the platforms have failed to meet the one-hour deadline and need to do more.

"While we have made progress on removing terrorist content online through voluntary efforts, it has not been enough," said Julian King, European commissioner for security policy. "We need to prevent it from being uploaded and, where it does appear, ensure it is taken down as quickly as possible -- before it can do serious damage."

A 4 percent fine would only occur in the event of "systematic failures" in removing content. For Google parent Alphabet that would amount to more than $4.4 billion and more than $1.6 billion for Facebook, according to the 2017 revenues.

Spokeswomen for Google’s YouTube and Facebook both said the companies share the commission’s goal to combat the spread of terrorism content on their platforms.

Automated and machine-learning tools can help tech firms catch any malicious posts. But web firms typically also use human reviewers to look over posts to try to ensure they don’t remove terror content when it’s used in a neutral context, such as by news outlets, whistle-blowers or non-governmental agencies. That can make tight turnaround times a challenge if companies want to ensure they aren’t overly censoring users.

Calling the commission’s proposal "troublesome," Raegan MacDonald, head of EU public policy at Mozilla, said "it would force private companies to play an even greater role in defining acceptable speech online."

The move is part of a wider shift by legislators in Europe and the U.S. to hand more legal responsibility to tech firms for the content that appears on their sites. Also on Wednesday, the European Parliament voted to back copyright rules that would help video, music and other rights holders seek compensation for use of their content online. In the U.S., President Donald Trump signed a law in April making websites liable if they knowingly facilitate sex trafficking.

The EU on Wednesday also called on the companies, member states and Europol to increase their cooperation, including by ensuring that a point of contact at each company and each national authority is reachable 24/7. The tech firms and the EU’s member states will also be required to report back to the commission regularly on the removals of terror content.

The commission proposal still needs approval from the EU’s member states and the European Parliament before it becomes law. EU member states said in late June they welcomed the commission’s intentions to present a legislative proposal in the area."

[Magnus]

Posted by Sophocles (here)
The deleted video was also uploaded by another Youtube user ("We are the Resistance") the same day and is still viewable:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XoDUyAjMIHs

The cookie crumbles:

Link 1

Link 2

Update: Links have on their own, reverted back to operational mode.

[PurpleLama]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...rch-washington

Founder of the #walkaway movement is banned from facebook.

[Valerie Villars]

FACEBOOK JUST BANNED ME AS I AM PLANNING THE #WalkAway March on Washington!!! I have been banned from posting leading up to the March. This is devastated for our ability to reach people!!! I was banned for mentioning my interview with Alex Jones. Can anybody help???

11:40 AM - Sep 12, 2018

1. I just went through my twitter feed and deleted tweets that contained the name of the man who was recently banned on all platforms and the name of his show- all of them except the tweet I just put out which contained his name along with the message that I’ve been banned.

12:52 PM - Sep 12, 2018
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2. This is where we are now. You can have your voice taken away 4 saying a NAME that they don’t want you to say. I will never disappear from Twitter for a day. So if you don’t hear from me for a day or two- they got me on here, too. It is so unbelievable that this is real life.

12:55 PM - Sep 12, 2018

I’m shaking right now. I just went into a camera store to buy a camera and a light and mic, etc. and they recognized me from tv. I was refused service because they said it was for “alt right” purposes. That literally just happened.

4:46 PM - Jul 5, 2018

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[Foxie Loxie]

What I get with the Links is "Server Didn't Respond in Time"????