YouTube, Facebook, Apple and Spotify all ban Alex Jones & Infowars

[KiwiElf]

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Aug 11 2018 11:51:36 (EST)
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FAKE NEWS consolidation [propaganda arm of the D party].
Define Antitrust Law(s).
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/comp...antitrust-laws
The Sherman Act outlaws "every contract, combination, or conspiracy in restraint of trade," and any "monopolization, attempted monopolization, or conspiracy or combination to monopolize."
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/comp...antitrust-laws
"The FTC's competition mission is to enforce the rules of the competitive marketplace — the antitrust laws. These laws promote vigorous competition and protect consumers from anticompetitive mergers and business practices."
Reconcile.
+GOOG
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+TWITTER
[CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN]
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>>138
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleco...ns_Act_of_1996
https://www.fcc.gov/general/telecommunications-act-1996
[BC set the stage]
[Plan]
Could a new Telecommunications Act be on the way?
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"Could a new Telecommunications Act be on the way?"

... which would tend to suggest that there will be?

[ExomatrixTV]

Is Alex Jones Back on Fakebook? but all 1,7 Million likes & followers & content is still taken down

http://facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones

[Valerie Villars]

Well it might help their cause if they spelled band, banned. Resistance needs to be smart.

[KiwiElf]

Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
Well it might help their cause if they spelled band, banned. Resistance needs to be smart.

LOL - then don't read the Anon's comments or memes on 8CHAN; some of their spelling is atrocious! (poor spelling seems to be common, these days!)

[ExomatrixTV]

Facebook Bans InfoWars, but Keeps Antifa, Louis Farrakhan Etc.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/...uis-farrakhan/

[Carmody]

The trick is to never be reactive and always be proactive.

Inform the self. anticipate. predict. act. Adjust. Act again. Repeat.

To react is to fall like a confused domino.

[norman]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

And if they DID kill him, then that might well propel into action a very large number of gun-toting patriots. If they wanted to trigger a civil war, that'd be one of the things they'd surely do. This might imply, interestingly, that a civil war might NOT be what they're trying to achieve right now... or, at least, not in this form.

If they were planning on a civil war at all, it was while they expected Hillary Clinton to be President. They certainly won't want one right now while Trump has the controls in his hands.

I can't forget all that ammunition they were stockpiling though.

General Flyn must have SO much info to get on record.

[ThePythonicCow]

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Yesterday, in the New York Times article Facebook Banned Infowars. Now What?, it is reported (does the NY Times still know how to report?) that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg made the call to ban Alex Jones from Facebook:

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Facebook Banned Infowars. Now What?

By Kevin Roose, Aug. 10, 2018

Late on Sunday, after returning to his hotel room on a trip away from home, Mark Zuckerberg made a decision he had hoped to avoid.

For weeks, the Facebook chief executive and his colleagues had debated what to do about Infowars, the notorious far-right news site, and Alex Jones, Infowars’ choleric founder, who became famous for his spittle-flecked rants and far-fetched conspiracies, including the idea that the Sandy Hook massacre was an elaborate hoax promoted by gun-control supporters.

Mr. Jones is just one Facebook user out of 2.2 billion, but he had become symbolic of tech platforms’ inconsistency and reluctance to engage in a misinformation war.

The pressure on Facebook to do something about him had intensified after executives gave a series of vague and confusing answers to lawmakers and reporters about the company’s policies. Misinformation was allowed to stay on the platform, they said, but hate speech wasn’t. So users dug up and reported old Infowars posts, asking for their removal on the grounds that they glorified violence and contained dehumanizing language against Muslims, immigrants, and transgender people.

These posts clearly violated Facebook’s hate speech rules. And in a normal situation, a low-level content moderator might have reviewed them, found that they qualified, and taken them down.

But Mr. Jones was no typical internet crank. He has millions of followers, a popular video show, and the ear of President Trump — who once told the provocateur that his reputation was “amazing.” Banning such a prominent activist would lead to political blowback, no matter how justified the action was.

The situation was volatile enough that Mr. Zuckerberg got personally engaged, according to two people involved in Facebook’s handling of the accounts. He discussed Infowars at length with other executives, and mused privately about whether Mr. Jones — who once called Mr. Zuckerberg a “genetic-engineered psychopath” in a video — was purposefully trying to get kicked off the platform to gain attention, they said.

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There is more of this "reporting" at the above NY Times link.

Here is how this article ends.

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There are legitimate questions, still unanswered, about what to do about the huge, unaccountable corporations that control large pieces of our modern communications infrastructure. Both fans and critics of Infowars can probably agree that a system in which one executive can decide to shut off a news organization’s access to a large portion of its audience is hardly ideal.

There are also valid questions about why Infowars got so popular in the first place, and whether attention-maximizing platforms like Facebook and YouTube are designed in ways so that people like Mr. Jones are incentivized to push the boundaries of acceptable speech.

After all, these platforms didn’t just host Infowars content for those who were seeking it — they actively promoted it to millions of people for years, through algorithmic feeds and recommendation engines that decide which videos to show you next. Could these platforms be redesigned so that the next Alex Jones never gets that kind of boost, and remains on the ideological fringes?

These questions will have to wait. For now, tech leaders seem satisfied to have dealt with their Infowars problems, at least temporarily. They will return to their defensive crouch, hiding their power behind policies, making small changes under pressure, and hoping that nobody notices the size of their footprints.

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Notice how this ending seems to be building a narrative for "fixing" major social media websites such as Facebook, which may have had "designed in ways so that people like Mr. Jones are incentivized to push the boundaries of acceptable speech." The article asks the question "Could these platforms be redesigned so that the next Alex Jones never gets that kind of boost, and remains on the ideological fringes?"

The ideological left is being seduced with the possibility of forcing major social media websites to redesign themselves so as to keep unacceptable ideological fringes from gaining a boost.

Meanwhile the ideological right is being seduced with the possibility of forcing these websites to remain politically neutral in how they moderate their sites.

... pray tell, just who will be doing all this forcing, and deciding which websites should be so forced. and how they should be so forced?

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"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." - President Reagan Aug. 12, 1986

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by PurpleLama, quoting Zero Hedge (here)
...why is Alex alive?

I'd suggest they're wanting to humiliate and disempower him, not make him a martyr.

I'd suggest that Alex Jones is serving as a useful foil in setting up an energized division in the people.

We risk ending up with both "sides" (the pro-Alex and the anti-Alex) welcoming government intervention to "fix" this mess.

As I might have mentioned before on this thread, I welcome no "government fix" to this mess. In such an energetically polarized environment, no good would come of that from one of the most corrupt swamps on the planet.

[norman]

Relax Paul, America has a very fine Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Facebook and the rest, only have 'terms and conditions'.

Put those two sides up in court and watch.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by norman (here)
The only tuff bit is extricating the American mind out of the "divine rights of commercial entities" vortex.

You're a master of the understatement, norman.

"Tuff", indeed. But it sure could go a long way to improving our lot.

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Posted by norman (here)
Put those two sides up in court and watch.

My money would be on whichever side had the most money.

[RunningDeer]

This one's new to me.

Joe Rogan @ 8:12 had a conversation with someone who said a YouTube subscriber added a podcast they listened to on their YouTube playlist and got a community guideline strike. It was for hate speech. The topic was about the problems with immigration in Europe.

Joe Rogan on Alex Jones Being Deplatformed

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uxwmcg7H5DU

A funny from Joe Rogan vid …

Alex Jones Rants as an Indie Folk Song

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uWd6XgBVIcg

3,850,122 views
Published on Jul 14, 2017

[norman]

Posted by Paul (here)
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. . . Mr. Zuckerberg got personally engaged, according to two people involved in Facebook’s handling of the accounts. He discussed Infowars at length with other executives, and mused privately about whether Mr. Jones — who once called Mr. Zuckerberg a “genetic-engineered psychopath” in a video — was purposefully trying to get kicked off the platform to gain attention, they said. . . . . .

I think Zuckerberg is keeping his options open with that kind of talk.

It gives him the face saving scope to do a U turn.

[muxfolder]

What is hate speech exactly? Where do those in power draw the line? I bet this is only beginning. Those behind this made a HUGE mistake banning Alex Jones. I'm not really a fan of his show but I do support free speech.

Has anyone done any research on this?
https://www.salon.com/2018/08/08/mee...-the-internet/

[Bubu]

Posted by mpennery (here)
I say Giddyup! Get on with it. These deep state corporations don’t realize that the tighter they turn the screws the more people wake up. I’m tired of this slow burn. Let’s go! Let’s wake ‘em up!

We’ve known this was coming. Heck, Obama made it legal for the American government to use propaganda (lies) against it’s own people. Alex calls his site InfoWARS. Make no mistake, this IS war. It’s the awakened against the sleepwalkers and deep state and nothing short of the future on this planet is at stake! The sooner we accept that, mobilize and take appropriate actions the better.

Matt

Heya Mike I like the words you say. Just like you I was tired of slow burn and wanted TSHTF sooner the better. But It wasn't happening and I took action. I decided I will be the change I wanted to see. I wanted a peaceful place for all so I started caring for people I mean every human that I can whenever I can. To me that's the most appropriate action to do. If we take arms who we will be fighting against? Our own kind that are under the spell?

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
JFK's mom was still alive when he was assassinated. Should no one have questioned his assassination either, to avoid hurting his mom's feelings?

Come on, Voice. You know better than to argue with this example. Questioning the circumstances of a murderer is not the same as saying that Kennedy's mother was a crisis actor.

B.

Don't just casually dismiss this. Explain to me what the fundamental difference is between offending JFK's mom by questioning JFK's death, and offending parents of the alleged Newtown shooting?

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Posted by norman (here)
Relax Paul, America has a very fine Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I agree, this is not the messaging I'm seeing from the right.

At most the restrictions will be placed upon basic service providers, not content providers.

The Freedom Caucus is the future of the Republican party, not the neocons.

[Michelle Marie]

Posted by Bubu (here)

Posted by mpennery (here)
I say Giddyup! Get on with it. These deep state corporations don’t realize that the tighter they turn the screws the more people wake up. I’m tired of this slow burn. Let’s go! Let’s wake ‘em up!

We’ve known this was coming. Heck, Obama made it legal for the American government to use propaganda (lies) against it’s own people. Alex calls his site InfoWARS. Make no mistake, this IS war. It’s the awakened against the sleepwalkers and deep state and nothing short of the future on this planet is at stake! The sooner we accept that, mobilize and take appropriate actions the better.

Matt

Heya Mike I like the words you say. Just like you I was tired of slow burn and wanted TSHTF sooner the better. But It wasn't happening and I took action. I decided I will be the change I wanted to see. I wanted a peaceful place for all so I started caring for people I mean every human that I can whenever I can. To me that's the most appropriate action to do. If we take arms who we will be fighting against? Our own kind that are under the spell?

This is beautiful, Bubu.

I like to say that the only arms I need are the ones I have to hug with.

Yesterday I gave my friend 3 hugs!

Of course, he had come to my rescue with a new laptop cord. But stll, the more love and hugs, the better!

"Appropriate action" includes Free Speech that we will NOT give up.

Watch out! I'm armed!
MM

(All rights stay intact, including the second amendment. I have bare arms, but I support those who bear arms to protect our freedom.)

[norman]

As the timing of the dumping of Alex Jones has coincided perfectly with the ongoing court case against Alex by the so called Sandy Hook families, I went looking for the documentary called "We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook".


Youtube has got rid of it, of course, but I found a copy that's playable from archive dot org.


Here:
https://archive.org/details/HQWeNeed...nHigherQuality


In my personal opinion the only thing Alex has done wrong is to apologise for anything he has said. A big mistake I'll guess he already regrets. That, more than anything else, damages him ( it's amazing how stupid we can be on a monday morning pow wow with our lawyer, it seems )

Refresh your memory, and let's keep things in perspective, and the right way up.

[Michelle Marie]

Posted by norman (here)
As the timing of the dumping of Alex Jones has coincided perfectly with the ongoing court case against Alex by the so called Sandy Hook families, I went looking for the documentary called "We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook".


Youtube has got rid of it, of course, but I found a copy that's playable from archive dot org.


Here:
https://archive.org/details/HQWeNeed...nHigherQuality


In my personal opinion the only thing Alex has done wrong is to apologise for anything he has said. A big mistake I'll guess he already regrets. That, more than anything else, damages him ( it's amazing how stupid we can be on a monday morning pow wow with our lawyer, it seems )

Refresh your memory, and let's keep things in perspective, and the right way up.

Maybe another positive outcome is that we will learn the whole truth about Sandy Hook. It seems like the more they try to cover things up, the more the truth comes out. I Have already looked deeper into Sandy Hook because of this. I'm going to keep looking. With all of the anomalies and unanswered questions, there must be something that needs to see the light of day.


MM

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by norman (here)
As the timing of the dumping of Alex Jones has coincided perfectly with the ongoing court case against Alex by the so called Sandy Hook families, I went looking for the documentary called "We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook".

Youtube has got rid of it, of course, but I found a copy that's playable from archive dot org.

Here:
https://archive.org/details/HQWeNeed...nHigherQuality

Many thanks... I'll add that into the Sandy Hook thread.

• What Really Happened at Sandy Hook??

Note: we also have a copy in the Avalon Library, in medium resolution: (538 Mb)

• http://avalonlibrary.net/We_need_to_...Sandy_Hook.mp4