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    Default Re: The Decline of Modern Man (Masculinity)

    Dr. John Coleman said way back in 1992 that the plan of the elite is to destroy the United States via a liberal movement and liberal politics via their research at the Tavostock University. I'm of the opinion that what we see playing out today is evidence of this.

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    Women are being fed a line via the feminist movement.

    I open doors for women out of respect--im not stupid ot patronising--I know they are perfectly capable of man-aging their life without me after all we would not be here if it was not for a mother.
    So opportunities for males to respect and be strong for females are being removed.

    My friend 81 years of age said to her post man when shesaw him in the supermarket.
    "I didnt recognise you without your shorts.
    He wears them when doing deliveries.
    she said to me that they both laughed when sherealized what she had said.
    Also told me that if a male had said that to a woman there would have been outrage.
    Its not an equal world in this type of situation.
    Who said it should be?
    Respect respect is so important

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    Divide and conquer is a famous expression.
    That seems to me what is behind media promotion of the feminist movement.
    Who owns the media?

    When you start to break the natural bond between women and men then you are weakening that relationship.
    Men need the support of a strong and wise woman.
    The power behind the throne.
    When that support is there, men will rise to the occasion and become a good provider for wife and family.
    Oh yes there are exceptions to every rule.
    We can all quote where men have overstepped the mark and become absolute Bs.
    Similarly where women have been bitches not only to men but other women.
    Thats the minority that media likes to "expose"
    The news papers TV programs are full of it.
    Shock horror outrage--that's what controls the populous, stir up the emotions ---take sides is the call.
    That is the tool of separation.
    Divide and conquer.
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    Men are also getting weird visa vie lack of confidence etc... no real structure to society anymore (aside from guilt and fear)....

    Everyone suffers it seems

    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
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    TargeT, I want to thank you for opening this discussion here on the forum.

    Strong men need strong women. And strong women need strong men.

    Both are necessary for a healthy culture and society, especially for the children.

    I came across this thread a few days ago and subscribed, thinking I may contribute to the conversation at some point.

    I've been concerned about this issue since the 80's. And was happy to see Tucker Carlson do a series on it.

    Here's a video that came across my In Box this morning, a turnaround on the phrase Toxic masculinity, to TONIC masculinity.

    I for one, appreciate men. And celebrate their strength.


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    A similar thread at least in part.
    When men were men & women were feminine

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1239437
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    MCU not for white males anymore?

    This has been an interesting ****show...



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    Default Re: The Decline of Modern Man (Masculinity)

    Watch Netflix new,"Dating Around." From that show alone, you can see that women are the new men. Women would never put up with the boorish, bragging, loud mouthed self centeredness from men, that is now common for women to engage in. And it seems to be younger women...and...many exceptions. This is just a generality.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Watch Netflix new,"Dating Around." From that show alone, you can see that women are the new men. Women would never put up with the boorish, bragging, loud mouthed self centeredness from men, that is now common for women to engage in. And it seems to be younger women...and...many exceptions. This is just a generality.
    And people wonder why Western men like foreign women so much.

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    Hmm, courage, competency, responsibility & logic.

    an interesting veiled clash of identity politics and masculine logic.



    and a bit more to the point of gender politics:
    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
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    great discussion about the need for a "whole" family... mother AND father.



    I grew up with a single mother & did not get the "full" masculine influence until the military.


    I'm sure that affected me.
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    I grew up with a single mother & did not get the "full" masculine influence until the military.


    I'm sure that affected me.
    Surely the data is out there, but it'd be neat to see a study on how growing up in a fatherless household affects boys and girls. Do all the kids grow up and develop similar behaviors? This is an issue in high crime areas but they're definitely not mutually inclusive (meaning a fatherless household doesn't immediately mean the kid will grow up to be trouble). Also, what's worse; growing up never knowing your father or growing up till you're 8ish then your parents split up? You ever listen to Tommy Sotomayor?

    From someone who did grow up w/ both parents I gotta say the whole 'masculinity' thing just comes naturally from the father figure and therefore you never physically think about ones own masculinity. I guess for fatherless households it's kinda the same way blacks think of their color every day or gays with sexuality. I just never thought about masculinity, never was an issue.

    How do you describe the 'full masculine influence?'
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    Interesting to see how what I think I recognize ( tell me how I'm wrong btw...) as the pinnacle of male masculinity acts with women......

    The decline of what?
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    And yet.... sparks of hope exist






    btw, if you don't feel moved or tear up at this, your a robot.... holy ****.... I can't believe this is still happening.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    And yet.... sparks of hope exist






    btw, if you don't feel moved or tear up at this, your a robot.... holy ****.... I can't believe this is still happening.
    Thanks for sharing this TargeT

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    Quote Posted by Constance (here)
    Thanks for sharing this TargeT
    There are so many distractions and so much polarization... "divide and conquer" is an exceedingly effective tactic it seems.
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    I wish I wasn't the one to say this.....(the pendulum always swings back... we are where we are)


    Welcome to what has been missing:



    haha, masculine energy almost feels inherently wrong in society today.... how f********* is that?

    hope this provoked something.... comfort is evil
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    There are so many issues highlighted by this one story: autism, pharmaceuticals, feminisation of males. It’s very disturbing.

    Quote Johnson & Johnson ordered to pay man $8 BILLION over drug causing him to grow breasts
    9 Oct, 2019 08:24 / Updated 19 hours ago


    A Philadelphia jury on Tuesday said that Johnson & Johnson (J&J) must pay $8 billion in punitive damages to a man over his claims that a drug manufactured by the US firm caused him to grow breasts.

    The verdict in favor of Nicholas Murray, 26, came first in one of thousands of Risperdal cases pending in Pennsylvania.

    Murray, like other male plaintiffs in the mass tort litigation over Risperdal, alleges that he developed breasts after being prescribed the medicine and taking it from 2003 to 2008. A psychologist prescribed the drug after diagnosing him with autism spectrum disorder. In late 1993, the drug was approved by the Food and Drug Administration for treating schizophrenia and episodes of bipolar mania in adults.

    Four years ago, a jury awarded Murray $1.75 million after finding that J&J was negligent in failing to warn consumers of the risks. A state appeals court upheld the verdict last year, but reduced it to $680,000.

    “This jury, as have other juries in other litigations, once again imposed punitive damages on a corporation that valued profits over safety and profits over patients,” Murray’s lawyers, Tom Kline and Jason Itkin, said. “Johnson & Johnson and [subsidiary] Janssen chose billions over children,” they said.

    J&J said the award was “grossly disproportionate with the initial compensatory award in this case, and the company is confident it will be overturned.” It added that the jury in the case had not been allowed to hear evidence of Risperdal’s benefits.

    Plaintiffs claim that Johnson & Johnson failed to warn of the risk of gynecomastia (the development of enlarged breasts in males) associated with Risperdal, which they say J&J marketed for unapproved use with children.

    Plaintiffs in the mass tort litigation had been barred from seeking punitive damages since 2014, when a state court judge ruled that the law of New Jersey (which prohibits punitive damages and is J&J’s home state) should be applied globally to the cases.

    In 2018, a Pennsylvania Superior Court ruling cleared the way for punitive damages awards, holding that the law of each plaintiff’s state should instead apply.
    From: https://www.rt.com/business/470502-b...breast-growth/
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    That's got a pretty deep legal argument: New Jersey, Johnson & Johnson's "home", prohibits punitive damages. It took four years for another judge to decide that plaintiffs' home state laws should apply to the cases. Companies of course love to dodge taxes and laws by opening an office, or even a post office box, somewhere. Since this company is rather old, presumably they had a hand in crafting such a favorable shelter.

    Giving some kind of FDA-approved schizophrenia drug to a guy who was about eleven at the time is not something that really needs to happen. In America, you can sell anything that's not "proven unsafe", whereas in Europe, you generally cannot sell anything unless it is "proven safe". No number of thousands of lab rats can tell us much about what some complex molecule will do to a human.

    General information about Risperidal on Wiki says: "Common side effects include movement problems, sleepiness, dizziness, trouble seeing, constipation, and increased weight. Serious side effects may include the potentially permanent movement disorder tardive dyskinesia, as well as neuroleptic malignant syndrome, an increased risk of suicide, and high blood sugar levels. In older people with psychosis as a result of dementia, it may increase the risk of dying. It is unknown if it is safe for use in pregnancy. Its mechanism of action is not entirely clear..."

    No one knows what it does, other than kill the old, make you feel suicidal, or commonly make it difficult to move. That is what is approved.

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