I was just diagnosed with lymphoma after finding a lump in my neck

[David Ansible]

I am a lurker, and do not comment very often. I remember seeing this thread awhile back.

I was just diagnosed with lymphoma after finding a lump in my neck. Next comes the dreaded
Pet scan and, apparently almost certainly, chemo and radiation. For a year (or more?)
I had been having periodic night sweats. Energy and "perceived health" is fine and I feel generally
well, (for example I go to the gym regularly), though I am noticing a slightly "sore" throat at the moment.

I am going to read through this whole thread and research as much as possible. For the past year I have
been doing intermittent fasting, often 1 meal a day - though with occasional sugar binges.
I had already decided recently that these binges would cease. I also fasted 5 days in January. I also went
vegan starting in January.

I think my main course of action is going to be fasting plus reducing my carbs/sugars to as low as possible (ketosis),
though I will also try other things in combination such as baking soda (why not), mushrooms, and so on. The diet
will include lots of avocado, coconut oil, olive oil, nuts and seeds.

I have to admit, the thought of chemo and radiation scares me almost as much as the cancer. It's interesting in a
way that the first thing likely to make me actually feel sick will be those damn treatments. It would be great if I
could somehow avoid them. But of course what the doctor is likely to say is "you better undergo these treatments or
else...." My fear is not about the chemo/radiation making me temporarily sick, but rather the fear of "never being quite the same"
afterwards. I understand of course that the possibility of lingering effects is considered a tradeoff for combating the disease,
but still, it is a tough thing.

Anyway, my heart goes out to Shadowself and others embroiled in this and other serious diseases.

[David Ansible]

"I also want to say...I was a very healthy person before this happened...I was 64 and running circles around people half my age...then all of a sudden it hit...and when it did it hit hard and my life will never be the same."

I am 43, 5 foot 10, 148 pounds. I exercise and generally eat well. What can you do. Blessings to you as well!

[David Ansible]

Posted by Shadowself (here)

Posted by David Ansible (here)
I am a lurker, and do not comment very often. I remember seeing this thread awhile back.

I was just diagnosed with lymphoma after finding a lump in my neck. Next comes the dreaded
Pet scan and, apparently almost certainly, chemo and radiation. For a year (or more?)
I had been having periodic night sweats. Energy and "perceived health" is fine and I feel generally
well, (for example I go to the gym regularly), though I am noticing a slightly "sore" throat at the moment.

I am going to read through this whole thread and research as much as possible. For the past year I have
been doing intermittent fasting, often 1 meal a day - though with occasional sugar binges.
I had already decided recently that these binges would cease. I also fasted 5 days in January. I also went
vegan starting in January.

I think my main course of action is going to be fasting plus reducing my carbs/sugars to as low as possible (ketosis),
though I will also try other things in combination such as baking soda (why not), mushrooms, and so on. The diet
will include lots of avocado, coconut oil, olive oil, nuts and seeds.

I have to admit, the thought of chemo and radiation scares me almost as much as the cancer. It's interesting in a
way that the first thing likely to make me actually feel sick will be those damn treatments. It would be great if I
could somehow avoid them. But of course what the doctor is likely to say is "you better undergo these treatments or
else...." My fear is not about the chemo/radiation making me temporarily sick, but rather the fear of "never being quite the same"
afterwards. I understand of course that the possibility of lingering effects is considered a tradeoff for combating the disease,
but still, it is a tough thing.

Anyway, my heart goes out to Shadowself and others embroiled in this and other serious diseases.

HI David,

When you read this just remember this is my path as the title of the thread states. This is the path I have chosen. I've also chosen some very holistic remedies I can't really speak of here but trust me I'm looking everywhere for a cure to my cancer type which may as well be termed terminal. I'm on heavy doses of vitamins as well...some of them up to 50,000 units. I'm also being pumped with plenty of fluids and believe it or not...no matter what path you may choose...you might have a hard time doing something as simple as drinking water.

lymphoma is quite treatable however. Depending on the stage it can be over in a year. If it's metastasized (spread to your other organs) it can be a rough road. So whatever you choose I do hope this thread will help as it's by far not just about the chemo which my doctor wants to take me off of...I just have about another month to see it through.

My residual effects wear off at the end of the two week period and I can actually taste food again, and feel somewhat normal except that pain from the cancer which is far too much to handle and worse than the chemo...and I have to keep on top of that. I finally gave in yesterday in fact for a stronger pain medication as I'm starting to get severe headaches that the other pain medication is not covering.

I want to tell you that if you do decided to do the chamo I know lots of people who are on it with various kinds of cancer and it does work quite well for their cancer. I also want to tell you that if you do decide to get it...it will scare the hell out of you to begin with. It did me.

You may also have to reduce the chemo if you decide to get it as I did because the two different kinds I got were too much for me and they did reduce it and I am tolerating it. Do not mistake tolerating for it being okay. It's no joy ride for sure.

I will hold you in my thoughts David...Hope is what I cling to even on the hardest days and there are many of them.

I also want to say...I was a very healthy person before this happened...I was 64 and running circles around people half my age...then all of a sudden it hit...and when it did it hit hard and my life will never be the same.

Just remember...lymphoma is quite treatable and hope is not that far away.

Blessings!

I just want to thank you Shadowself for your response. I read it through carefully twice. I really appreciate it.
Best, David.

[Bill Ryan]

A moderator note from Bill:

I've moved these posts by David (above) to start their own new thread here, which I think is important.

These posts, and (separately) Shadowself/Brook's very personal thread Cancer killing/Killing Cancer ~ My Heart Path, are both primarily about supporting the two members who've been kind and brave enough to share their very difficult experiences with us.

They're not primarily for discussing treatment protocols in abstract, there being many other existing Avalon threads for that. Avalon has a valuable function in offering information and discussion about health and wellness (besides many other things!), but equally important is the commitment to support our members personally when they find themselves facing challenging times.

[Flash]

My brother had lymphoma cancer, 17 years ago. He went to what was suggested by doctors at that time. He is doing very well, no trace of any cancer.

My cousin presently has the same type of lung cancer as Brook. She chose a new trial cancer therapy, in a research, that is based on boosting the immune system to the max. This treatment is given only if the cancer is terminal. The research is made at the University of Montreal. Up to now, it is doing fine. Another friend of mine was on the same protocol for oeseaphagus cancer (almost always terminal) 3 years ago and is doing fine.

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, Bill....David does deserve his own thread!

We're with you David! Please give us updates, if you feel like it!

[AutumnW]

So sad to hear. I hope you are managing to keep your spirits up and know that no great challenge is wasted in the grand scheme of things!

You might want to research this. I read about a couple of studies a few years back that concluded that low cholesterol and poor post cancer prognosis were fairly highly correlated. Also, just heard this on the fly, but it runs counter to the current orthodoxy, as well, so thought I would mention it and you can peruse any literature if you think it might help....diets that are highly alkaline are also correlated with higher rates of cancer.

The fact that you are otherwise healthy should stand you in good stead! I wish you great good luck. Btw, my aunt was diagnosed with some form of chronic lymphoma 20 years ago and is still going strong at 94 years of age! She gets tired easily and her feet hurt. But I think that's about it. I should be so lucky!

[thepainterdoug]

I truly wish you well. if there are alt solutions, the good people here will suggest

[Noelle]

I am sending you healing thoughts and a big hug.

May you have the strength


Of eagles' wings,


The faith and courage to


Fly to new heights,


And the wisdom


Of the universe


To carry you there.

Native American Blessing

[Chanie]

David,

As Noelle’s blessing says, I wish you strength and courage on your journey.

Also, if the doctors tell you that they’ve found more than one tumour, be sure to ask them if they tested each and every one of them.

In the case of my one friend, the doctors only tested one of her three tumours and based on this test, they assumed they knew what type of lymphoma she had. Many months later, they discovered that she had two different types of lymphoma! We were flabbergasted—didn’t even realize it was possible to have two kinds at once. Sadly, they had been treating the type that they had identified rather than the more aggressive one they didn’t know about.

My understanding is that lymphoma is very treatable and even curable, but I know that at this point, the journey must seem daunting. I hope the love and support of the community here is of some help and solace to you.

[Michelle Marie]

Sending and prayers.

It's good to have someone to talk to and to lean on. You have a lot of someones here!


MM

[spade]

listen to Dr Jennifer Daniels MD on every sunday 11am EST www.republicbroadcasting.org - call in for any questions she will answer them directly in the 2nd to 3rd hour.

She's livid about any doctor giving lump / cancer finding diagnoses to patients. She completely adamant about most lumps going away by themselves through good diet, cleansing and detox alone. She's also in her mid 60s, and has researched and concluded that people with "cancer" without standard treatment live 10-20 years longer than those who do, and she tells everyone to choose their path wisely based on full statistics. In your case, the lymph node is simply inflamed most probably due to a clog and some parasites, easily dealt with - refer to the turpentine thread. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...acteria-alone-

[Sunny-side-up]

Healing hand on the area between your shoulders and neck base, LOVE you

[Bubu]

Hi David, You said you were a very healthy person doing exercise, fasting, avoiding sugar and all. But apparently not. apparently you been doing something not right. What could it be. First step to solving the problem is knowing what exactly is the problem. My understanding is that most cancer is cause by accumulated toxins. Its the cells mutating to survive in an unfavorable environment. cleansing (primarily blood cleanse) I recommend. My father was diagnose with stage 4 prostrate cancer at 74 he is now 90, didnt have a single chemo or radiation. My neighbor was diagnose with cancer around 2 years ago I told them my dads story. She never had chemo or radiation she is now also cancer free. Chemo could be the worst thing you could do. First thing you should do is fire your doctor they dont treat this kind of disease. A friend who have been taking my herbs once requested some for a doctor friend from the cancer institute because she had a cyst. She said that doctors from this cancer center with cyst or lumps dont take chemo or radiation. WHY? But of course they have to have their patients undergo such treatment because according to medical protocol its the right thing to do which means that not doing it endangers their license.

[David Ansible]

First off, coming to Avalon today (just now) I did not expect this and found it an emotional experience. Thank you to all for the kind words and to Bill for creating the thread. I had the thought that I did not want to hijack Shadowself's thread, and so I am glad for this.

[David Ansible]

A bit more info. I have two lymphomas - follicular something or other, and diffuse large B cell. The B cell is more aggressive and supposedly curable with chemotherapy / radiation. The follicular is "indolent", i.e., slow growing but problematic (i.e., considered "treatable" not curable - survival rates average 7 to 10 years). I do not know about staging yet but I was having periodic night sweats for a long while (a year or more). Based on the night sweats and the hardness of the lump, my research suggests that the cancer has likely spread. Working for me is diet (with some unfortunate high sugar deviations which will not happen again) and periodic fasting. I have been eating one meal a day roughly five days a week for 8 months. I am currently on the fourth day of a water fast.

My dilemma now is with regard to chemo/radiation. The risks are severe - bladder cancer, heart disease, organ damage, neuropathy, cognitive decline, permanent fatigue, and on and on. Further, I feel the doctor is going to pressure me. I also feel that quasi-subliminal pressure from my more conventional family members. I am not married but I have three sisters and my parents are alive. I should add that they have been incredibly supportive.

I have found some research suggesting that water fasting and a ketogenic diet may arrest / shrink tumors to some degree. Would it really be so bad to do extensive water fasting alternating with a keto-ish vegan diet (by "keto-ish" I mean that I would include tons of cruciferous and other low carb vegetables, garlic, etc. in addition to the fatty foods - basically avocado, nuts and olives) and then endure a second PET scan in three months (which by the way itself doses you with 8 years worth of typical background radiation per scan!). If chemo is absolutely necessary, I may take the risk. But I am so very reluctant to do so. Would life be worth living in a potentially radically diminished condition? I am not sure I am the type who wants to desperately cling to life no matter the circumstances. At the very least, I would like to do what I can to take care of this problem myself, first, before submitting to the "treatment." It may be the wrong decision. And frankly, the doctor may persuade me that chemo is necessary. But the idea of chemo fills me with horror. I do know some success stories - people who seem to have rebounded well from chemo. So we'll see. Thanks again to everyone for your comments! David

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks for the update, David! You are in a very caring & healing environment here!

Will be praying that you have the wisdom & discernment to choose which path is right for you. It always helps me to remember that I already AM an Eternal, Sovereign Being, having learning experiences for a short while in this body.

Know that our thoughts & prayers are with you!

[David Ansible]

Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
Thanks for the update, David! You are in a very caring & healing environment here!

Will be praying that you have the wisdom & discernment to choose which path is right for you. It always helps me to remember that I already AM an Eternal, Sovereign Being, having learning experiences for a short while in this body.

Know that our thoughts & prayers are with you!

Thanks Foxie. I am with you on that. I have been watching Tom Campbell videos (was already interested) as well as some Alan Watts and whatever I can find. Tom Campbell has a short one where he talks about reality as possibly serving up learning lessons (sometimes, however, he says that illness, rather than being a "learning lesson," is simply a result of the "rule set" of this reality - Significant enough exposure to asbestos, e.g., and the rule set says you are extremely likely to develop mesothelioma).

I have to admit, I do not have a sense of certainty about any of this, including what happens after we die. But I think I am happy to adopt the hypothesis that what we say and do matters, that there is some kind of existence after death, and that life has purpose and is meaningful. I was already on this path before all this happened. I will mention that one very positive side effect of all this has been a renewed closeness with my sisters, from whom I had been somewhat estranged. I had been thinking about how "someday soon" I would get together with them. However I was still bitter over certain things and so I largely avoided contact. Well, "reality" has pulled us together and I am very happy for that. So, it has been an opportunity for growth, and has accelerated certain processes in me that enable me to open up some and be closer to people. So silver linings do exist. I just don't want this "learning lesson" to kill / permanently debilitate me. Though of course life will do its thing. We don't always have as much control as we would like over the events in our lives. Our job, as I see it, is to do our very best with what we are presented with, have courage, and grow through our experiences. Of course, this can be easier said than done - especially the courage part. But that is my intention.

[David Ansible]

Here is the Tom Campbell video I referenced in my last post:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hylwPP1_heA

[David Ansible]

Posted by Bubu (here)
Hi David, You said you were a very healthy person doing exercise, fasting, avoiding sugar and all. But apparently not. apparently you been doing something not right. What could it be. First step to solving the problem is knowing what exactly is the problem. My understanding is that most cancer is cause by accumulated toxins. Its the cells mutating to survive in an unfavorable environment. cleansing (primarily blood cleanse) I recommend. My father was diagnose with stage 4 prostrate cancer at 74 he is now 90, didnt have a single chemo or radiation. My neighbor was diagnose with cancer around 2 years ago I told them my dads story. She never had chemo or radiation she is now also cancer free. Chemo could be the worst thing you could do. First thing you should do is fire your doctor they dont treat this kind of disease. A friend who have been taking my herbs once requested some for a doctor friend from the cancer institute because she had a cyst. She said that doctors from this cancer center with cyst or lumps dont take chemo or radiation. WHY? But of course they have to have their patients undergo such treatment because according to medical protocol its the right thing to do which means that not doing it endangers their license.

Bubu, it is possible that actions from years ago caught up with me in some way. Who knows. In my twenties and early thirties I may have been a little more "dissolute" than ideal. Also, I had profound experiences beginning in 2011 which deeply depressed me for a time. In brief, I suffered "interference" of a sort that brought me to a site like Avalon! Interaction has continued in seemingly automated form. I have become rather reticent about talking about it honestly.

Anyway, I spent a lot of time in an extremely sedentary state and gained many pounds. Thus, I went from 148 to 180 or more and back to 148. So, while I have, I believe, been doing things right for a few years, this could be past issues and events coming back to haunt me. But I would also admonish you to an extent if you don't mind: Environmental factors can (more than) conceivably cause health problems for people. It is not all a matter of "doing things right." There is such a thing as exposure to carcinogens after all. I would refer you to the asbestos example in my earlier post.

If you have information on what your father and neighbor did to avoid chemo / radiation, I'd be more than happy to know about it. Edit: I see you said "blood cleanse." I can look it up. But if you can offer a brief description, that would be great. Thanks!