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    Quote Posted by James Newell (here)
    Here is a fellow(s) that has done some research, and has made some outlandish claims as to casualties. I am almost hesitant to put it up but evaluate it for what it is. He is claiming almost 50000 are missing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=aeP1SS15l6s
    That guy is Jamie of aplanetruth from Santa Rosa shooting himself in the foot. He's not stupid. He's one of the few people doing stupendous work to expose the questions surrounding the California fires both last year and this, and is apparently an ex wall street guy. But he's got some serious rush to judgements going on.

    I'm really frustrated with his frequent carelessness in videos, jumping to conclusions and projecting without merit. It takes much too much detail sifting to separate the fact from opinion in his stuff and he's killing his credibility.

    Truthers need to be far more grounded, accurate and credible than their accusers at all times. It's too bad the passion and frustration leads to sloppiness like in Jamie's case - and a lot of jumping to conclusive blaming.

    I think there's FAR more to this story than the railroad line, the gold, agenda 21 and the rest of blames taking center stage.
    It's something else when not everything is destroyed and people are just going back and rebuilding like here in Santa Rosa!!!

    Regarding the possible death count however, this to me is the logic:
    - Over 14,000 homes were destroyed in hours.
    - Over 50,000 people had to evacuate from Paradise and connected towns, everyone had only 1 or 2 roads out beginning at 6:30am.
    - Thousands were elderly 70's,80's,90's+, many likely still sleeping, many likely not able to drive.
    - Witnesses reported backups and people getting out of their cars to try to get to safety.
    - Other cars stopped working from heat damage forcing occupants to walk.
    - There have been no reports of anyone surviving walking the miles further to safety.
    - There are 1000's of burned out cars still in front of houses implying the occupants never got as far as trying to use them.
    - There are clusters and clusters of burned out abandoned cars on the side of the roads.

    - Do you think including the massive elderly factor that it reasonably adds up to 85 dead and 5 missing, the current official number?

    I think at first the Sheriff was doing his best to do the job he knew exactly how to do. Right after the three stooges visited the numbers started plummeting and the media totally shut up about the devastation.

    I repeat, 14,000 homes destroyed. Media since - crickets.

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    New Project Camelot interview with Deborah Tavares today
    DEBORAH TAVARES : FIRES, WATER AND HOW TO SURVIVE
    Project Camelot
    Streamed live 3 hours ago
    December 18th @ 3pm PT - I interview DEBORAH TAVARES
    (Also posted on the StoptheCrime thread)

    "She is an excellent researcher and activist who finds the documentation to support everything she claims.
    Bio from her site: http://stopthecrime.net
    Deborah Tavaresis a 3rd generation land developer of residential construction and has been self‐employed in a family operated business for over 30 years. She specialized in land feasibility studies, acquisitions and building permit processes, including required Environmental Impact Reports (EIR), along with furnishing Department of Real Estate (DRE) subdivision requirements and the entire construction build‐out to completion. It was during this process that the restrictions of property rights became evident under the creeping constraints of the United Nation’s AGENDA 21, through land use limitations, restrictions, regulations, fees and increased liability exposures. Deborah is spreading the word, exposing the connections between mysterious global trends of man‐made and corporate/military controlled technologies, weaponized frequencies, the falsified science of the “global warming” movement, and other major programs intended to cause damage to health and reduce the population and to eliminate freedom for all people for all time."

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    I think all Californians will want to listen to that interview in the post just above, #222. I just listened and it is full of vital global information, but especially for Californians.
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    Filmmaker Ron Howard to Make Camp Fire Documentary
    From StoptheCrime's email update today
    December 18, 2018 . .

    "HOLLYwood the "Wizards Stick" of media propaganda is moving into Paradise to create the false fire narrative.
    We need to find out who's financing this documentary and follow the script as fire survivors are interviewed, and who is "selected" to be interviewed.
    We must also watch to see where the funds from this documentary go.
    Remember, in Santa Rosa, a documentary was released one year after the TUBBS Fire of November 2017.
    This documentary was entitled "Urban Inferno - the Night Santa Rosa Burned".
    The profits went to the Sonoma County Community Resilience Fund, a Rockefeller and Rothschild resilience scheme to help finance the destruction, damage, and death they created.
    You will not hear the truth about the FIRES in Butte County, California.
    The script will most likely omit that PG&E is Rothschild.
    Directed Energy Weapons were deployed - there were Heavy Heavy Chemtrailed Skies days before the fires.
    Smart Meters Blew-up (WERE Blown-up) the fires were a house to house ignition the trees resisted the fires, the weather on demand facilitated the ideal fire conditions.
    Paradise is GOLD Country.
    Climate Action Plans were approved by the Butte County city and county boards - plans stating the county would face floods, fires, heat events, water shortages and more if CO2 emissions were not reduced. The Climate Action and Resilient, which Butte County adopted, are plans of land restrictions, energy and resource "required" reductions. In short, these United Nation Plans are CRIMINAL Plans of DEATH . . . and more.
    The climate action and resilient plans have been approved in communities nationwide and worldwide.
    Understand the Camp Fires, in Butte County are an active criminal crime scene and the perpetrators are conducting the investigations that the media will advance as the cause.

    Will your town of deliberate destruction be the next Hollywood Documentary?

    WE MUST ALL WORK TOGETHER TO 'EXPOSE' THE TRUTH!
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    https://www.actionnewsnow.com/conten...503094282.html

    Howard is conducting interviews for his project, and is expected to return several times.

    Academy Award Winning Filmmaker and Actor Ron Howard is working on a documentary in Butte County on the Camp Fire.
    Howard has been meeting with Paradise Firefighters,School Officials, Teachers and Students.
    He also dined at Unwined and enjoyed some of the "Resilience" beer brewed by Sierra Nevada Brewery in Chico, to benefit Camp Fire recovery.
    Paradise Schools Superintendent Michelle John described her visit with Howard as "fabulous", and said there were both light-hearted moments and serious moments.
    Howard told Paradise Post Managing Editor Rick Silva that his mother-in-law used to live in Paradise and that he has relatives in Redding.
    He also said his vision is to follow what happens in the coming year and that the documentary would be released after that.Howard is tentatively calling it "Believe in Paradise"."
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    ...another ‘Fonzi-scheme’?
    Sorry, it’s potentially true...
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    YELLOW VESTS IN AMERICA: Paradise Fire Survivors Claim State Sponsored Arson
    https://www.aircrap.org/2018/12/14/y...onsored-arson/
    "CAMP FIRE NEW CALIFORNIA STATE PAUL PRESTON, BUTTE COUNTY, CA

    CBS News: New California declares “independence” from rest of state

    Harold Saive: New California is a new state in development exercising its constitutional Right to form from the State of California as codified under Article IV Section 3 of the United States Constitution and in the United States Declaration of independence. (NewCalifornia.com) "

    In the community of Paradise over 2,000 buildings were destroyed and up to 600 people may be missing including the leadership team for the NEW CALIFORNIA STATE MOVEMENT from Butte County.

    The town of Paradise, CA has served as one of the central locations for numerous meetings and town halls. Now the churches and residences along with the community of Paradise, are all destroyed.

    Paul Preston Youtube Channel
    12/11/2018 – Sutter County – NEW CALIFORNIA STATE GRIEVANCE 47

    "Preston Claims DEW weapons and Smart Meters Involved in Arson Fires
    Paul Begley show with Guest PAUL PRESTON “New California”

    Paul Preston claims Homes with no smart meters did not burn down. He suspects that directed energy microwave or laser weapons (DEW) were also. He claims microwave DEW energy focused on a home could resonate with the internal house wiring initiating a conflagration. Preston discusses the effect of “chemtrails” to enhance fire conditions by adding nano-aluminum particulates to the environment, however the failure of the forest to burn in selected locations places this claim in doubt.

    Nov 14, 2018: Preston is positioned in front of the veterans memorial hall in Paradise, CA – one of the few buildings that survived the fire. Described as one of the most devastating fires in American history, Preston reports on local fire losses including the many souls lost to a conflagration ignited under suspicious circumstances.

    The initiation of the Paradise fires was documented by satellite, revealing what appeared to be an explosion or “launch” of incendiary material that rose a few thousand feet above ground level before collapsing. See the Mike Morales report on this compelling evidence for ARSON in PARADISE

    ARSON IN PARADISE: A compelling report by Mike Morales.
    The initiation of the Paradise fires was documented by satellite, revealing what appeared to be an explosion or “launch” of incendiary material that rose a few thousand feet above ground level before collapsing to cause a fire-storm in Paradise, CA

    Why is the Media Hiding Evidence of Arson in the Paradise Fire? from Hsaive on Vimeo.

    Source: Watch on Vimeo


    Related:
    The YELLOW VESTS Emerge as a Potent Force in America after Manmade California Firestorms | SOTN: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=110857
    The YELLOW VESTS Emerge as a Potent Force in America after Manmade California Firestorms – The Millennium Report http://themillenniumreport.com/2018/...ia-firestorms/
    The YELLOW VESTS Emerge as a Potent Force in America after Manmade California Firestorms | Cosmic Convergence: 2012 and Beyond http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=29248
    SMOKING GUN: Hard Evidence Shows Camp Fire Was Manmade, Genocide and Mass Destruction of Paradise Carefully Planned | SOTN: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=110720
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    Another video of strange anomalies, Re the Carr fire. Alex Jones made a comment that we are at that stage of the nwo plan that we sit around fairly comfortably looking and thinking as the bodies are dropping around us. Maybe those are my words but something like that.

    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/hou...-in-carr-fire/

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    More press on the subject. Alex Jones is talking about it now.

    PARADISE DESTROYED:
    California Firemen Find Signatures of Directed Energy Weapons

    https://youtu.be/OEyy1EaYBlQ

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    Forbidden Knowledge too
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/par...nergy-weapons/

    "The Camp Fire in Paradise, California began on November 8th of last year, destroying over 153,000 acres before finally being put out over a month later on December 14th. Over 13,000 homes and hundreds of businesses were destroyed, with more than half of this damage described as occurring within the first four hours.

    The anomalies of the Camp Fire were ignored by the mainstream media and were only reported on a handful of independent websites, including ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net.

    Fires were observed burning at temperatures at least three times hotter than an average house fire; hot enough to melt aluminum and glass, reducing homes to pure ash yet leaving plastic trash cans beside them untouched.

    Most of us are familiar with how microwave ovens heat and interact with foods and how this differs from the effects of thermal or convection ovens. We know that plastics are “microwave safe”, whereas metals explode violently when subjected microwaves. The effects of the NorCal fires of the past couple of years have been widely observed to resemble the effects one might expect to see from directed microwave radiation or masers.

    Maser is the acronym for “microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation”. Likewise, laser is the acronym for “light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation”. Both masers and lasers are forms of amplified, coherent, electromagnetic radiation and both frequency ranges are used in various Directed Energy Weapons (DEWs). DEWs are a newer class of weapons that are starting to come into wider use.

    The SupposedlyShelly YouTube channel interviewed retired California firemen, John Lord and Matt (last name withheld) about the anomalies they’ve observed and both were left to conclude that DEWs were involved. The firemen reported that plastics attached to metal completely melted while plastics standing alone withstood what must have been extraordinary heat. Other investigators observed how guardrails caught fire at the points where the metal bolts connected to the wood. DEWs could produce these effects.

    DEWs can:

    be invisible and inaudible.
    be immune to gravity, wind and Coriolis forces.
    travel at light-speed and have near infinite range and thus be suitable for use in space warfare.
    be land-based, mounted on planes, drones, satellites or Boeing X-37s.
    have pinpoint accuracy.
    One disturbing effect mentioned by the firemen that I hadn’t seen until I saw this video was the anomalous scarring along large swathes of forest, with the rest untouched.

    The question of course is why the innocent populace of Paradise would be the target of a diabolical stealth attack using advanced weapons – and by whom?

    Rumors swirled about a high-speed railway and gold reserves discovered in the Paradise area but the most pervasive rumors involved the UN’s Agenda 21 action plan and a Globalist plot to declare designated areas unfit for human habitation; to deny property rights, to undermine US sovereignty and to herd any survivors into megacities, with the goal of subjugating humanity to an “eco-totalitarian” regime.

    While crazy-sounding and unbelievable, one cannot deny that mainstream media hosts were heard casually discussing whether people should be allowed to rebuild in Paradise.

    Last Wednesday, the missing persons call center for those who were unaccounted for during the Camp Fire was closed down. Butte County officials were able to locate 3,200 people, with three individuals still considered missing, according to the sheriff’s office. Four victims have not yet been named, deputies said. The Camp Fire was the deadliest fire in California’s history, claiming 86 lives."


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    More press on the subject. Alex Jones is talking about it now.

    PARADISE DESTROYED:
    California Firemen Find Signatures of Directed Energy Weapons

    https://youtu.be/OEyy1EaYBlQ
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    People are waking up to this new "unthinkable" silent form of weapon. The evidence is pretty clear the UN (agenda 21 types) and nwo will do what they have to to get new real estate. Between Dew's and microwaves and chemicals and etc... The survivors will probably be the ones who recognize it first.


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    Much more from the firefighters here
    Must See!! Part 3 Paradise Fires--Massive "Event" Expert Testimony Retired Fire Captains
    (update: all 3 of these are from December 2018)
    Supposedly Shelly
    Published on Dec 27, 2018
    "Paradise Fire DEWs Smart Meters Retired Fire Captains and Fighters John Lord and Matt Geo Engineering Chem Trails--with Photos from John Lord. Disclaimer: The firemen have no affiliation with "Flat Earth Radio" and do not subscribe to that view. All photographs with the exception of a few stills from videos are taken by John Lord (c) 2018 December Paradise Fire."
    Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma26EBzJkxE
    Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3dZf07f9F4

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    Much more from the firefighters here
    Must See!!


    Must see — I agree.

    This is the best evidence I've seen yet for microwave involvement. It's really VERY compelling. Highly recommended. I hope a lot of people pay close attention to this.

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    More corroboration on their assertions from a very different kind of source, Dark Journalist and the Mystery Schools, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHV7WFM2Avk&t=2190s
    ...starting about 51 minutes in. Update: Make that 35 minutes in, not 51.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Much more from the firefighters here
    Must See!!


    Must see — I agree.

    This is the best evidence I've seen yet for microwave involvement. It's really VERY compelling. Highly recommended. I hope a lot of people pay close attention to this.
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    The following video is the most detailed, scientific explanation of what happened in the California fires. Dr, Ginny Silcox, had a Q-level government security clearance at one time, and her explanation is really earth-shattering (double entendre intended). I couldn't make up my mind whether to start a new thread considering how important this video is, but here it sits for now.


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    That's great info from Silcox. This is about the only source I have come across that offers practical ways to protect ourselves from 5G and EMFs in general. And MUCH more besides! On a par with the recent info from California firefighters, imho. Also see this Project Camelot interview featuring Silcox:



    "Ginny Silcox has years of experience in electromagnetic compliance for light-based medical instruments. This includes investigation into the effects of radiated and conducted emissions, electrostatic discharge, and short and long-field radio emissions. She has degrees in music, electronics, and language acquisition, and several years’ experience designing training for radiological emergency responders for the National Nuclear Security Administration (part of DOE)."
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    Yes, that's a great video.

    I was hugely impressed with Dr Ginny Silcox, who's a real delight to listen to: smart, aware, funny, articulate, and a very good presenter — the science teacher that most of us wish we'd had. I learned quite a bit more about microwaves here. It's crystal clear that the technology has been advanced to quite exotic Sci-Fi levels.

    Highly recommended... don't be deterred! It's pretty easy to understand for non-scientists.

    Just the first 9-10 minutes will give you a clue. She starts off by describing how it was accidentally discovered that various slightly different manipulations of microwave frequencies can
    1. shoot a pencil off a desk.
    2. pull a pencil on a desk.
    3. vaporize that pencil on a desk.
    That was in the 1940s. (The 1940s!! What can they do now?)

    Think about that just for a moment. The pencil experiments mean that microwave weapons can do ANYTHING AT ALL to many solid objects. (Including people, by the way.) After 6 minutes, she's explaining what happened to the World Trade Center.
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    I've been following HAARP, chem trails, etc for years. No doubt in my mind that these fires are not natural.

    (and for those who are still naysayers: refer to the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques that took place back in the early 70's. Ask, why would there be such a convention if there wasn't the technology. https://www.state.gov/t/isn/4783.htm)


    But I digress. My question is Who and Why. Why Santa Rosa and Paradise?

    Is a message being sent?
    Just Testing to see exactly what they can do?
    Need to eliminate population from those areas to extract precious minerals?

    As for the Who's

    Another country
    Our own Country (Deep State)
    A corporation
    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)


    But I digress. My question is Who and Why. Why Santa Rosa and Paradise?

    Is a message being sent?
    Just Testing to see exactly what they can do?
    Need to eliminate population from those areas to extract precious minerals?

    As for the Who's

    Another country
    Our own Country (Deep State)
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    I think Ginny Silcox has already worked it out and told us. She said she thought it might be a China-Deep State-Google operation. That's what I think it is too. I think China has got it's sights on California. Politically, it's already nearly there. They might well have something similar to the old British territory of Hong Kong in mind.
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    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    According to Tavares and others, the areas in California where the strange fires have occurred are areas that are desired by the creators of Agenda 21 to be acquired for Nature Reserves. The plan is to corral the people (those that haven't been culled) into "smart cities" where they can be monitored and controlled 24/7, and the areas they were burned out of, flooded out of, etc. will not be repopulated. ( Except I would imagine the elite plan to have vast estates in those areas themselves; I haven't heard that that is actually part of the agenda, but it would logically follow, given their meglomaniacal tendencies .) And there have been reports of a wealth of gold yet to be mined in some of those areas.
    Quote Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
    I've been following HAARP, chem trails, etc for years. No doubt in my mind that these fires are not natural.
    But I digress. My question is Who and Why. Why Santa Rosa and Paradise?
    Is a message being sent?
    Just Testing to see exactly what they can do?
    Need to eliminate population from those areas to extract precious minerals?
    Each breath a gift...
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    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    If the Paradise fire(s) were intentionally created using exotic tech – that is an act of war, and the game underfoot is being up-stepped considerably. After reviewing just a sliver of the video evidence, there appears to be something truly unnatural here that warrants investigating. I can’t just sit on the sidelines on this one, and I have decided to direct some PSI TECH resources toward looking into it further.

    We can know the truth about causation, (and also the who and the why), but the latter two data pieces are likely too hot to make public (at least for now).
    What I hate about these projects... and its why I am reluctant to open them in the first place - is that it’s never a simple whodunit. The rabbit holes you end up going down in search of the truth - open all sorts of twists and turns unexpected (and potentially unpleasant) outcomes...

    But if it turns out DE weapons were involved in this (and we can know that pretty easy), then this is just too much to ignore, and the core agenda needs to be known. At least I need to know.

    More later...

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