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    Could Paradise become an item for sale?

    To China?

    Collateral for debt?


    Always follow the money.
    If I may be permitted to say:

    Follow the power and control centers, not the money. Debt instruments, that is, "money" in all its forms, are created by those at the levers of power and control and used by them to obtain and maintain power and control. What we are witnessing this past 100 plus years and especially of late, is not about money. Money is for us peons. To keep us divided and conquered and to keep us focused on wasting our lives keeping up with the Joneses. Money is no longer for those who have and control true wealth.

    It is mind boggling and appalling to hear the garbage that comes out of the mouths and minds of these collectivist minions who are put forth to speak and write in support of the globalist agendas, such as Agenda 21 (or whatever number they are using now) and Codex Alimentarius.

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    Follow the power and control centers, not the money. Debt instruments, that is, "money" in all its forms, are created by those at the levers of power and control and used by them to obtain and maintain power and control. What we are witnessing this past 100 plus years and especially of late, is not about money. Money is for us peons. To keep us divided and conquered and to keep us focused on wasting our lives keeping up with the Joneses. Money is no longer for those who have and control true wealth.
    There's an analogy that I'm starting to grow fond of, for all this.

    Money is like the hydraulic fluid in heavy lift and earth moving equipment (bulldozers, backhoes, cranes, etc.). Hydraulic fluid transfers force from a pump to the place that's supposed to move.

    Hydraulic fluid can transfer substantial force, and it can do so flexibly around moving joints, when hydraulic hoses are used that handle the pressure.

    But hydraulic fluid is just a pressure transfer mechanism. The control valves decide where that pressure will go, and the pumps provide that pressure.

    ... and some union guy up in an air conditioned cab is pulling the levers that control those valves, and some guys in suits decided what to tell that union guy to do that day, and ... this analogy sooner or later regresses to the point of absurdity.

    But at least the "money is the hydraulic fluid" part of this analogy pleases me. Yes, one can figure out what part of that big piece of equipment will move, and where, by tracking that fluid. There is no inherent forecasting ability of what will actually move next or where it will move in such an analysis, but at least it's a way to model what's observed and what the potential variations are, within the existing observed range of motion, and its a way to anticipate how much could move, where, by observing where the pumps and reserve fluid tanks are, how big and strong they are, and how they are connected.

    Moving back to the world of money, someone with access to a billion dollar line of credit from a major bank can "make more things happen" that someone with no "connections" and with just $40.23 in their only bank account can do.
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    Catherine Austin Fitts addresses the California fires (in this interview with Greg Hunter) at about minute 46: ” One of the little known secrets about natural disasters is that they are a moment in time when the mortgage insurance funds of the US government opens up and money flows out in very secret massive ways…. So the US treasury and financial operations of the US government have wide latitude during a disaster to pour money out…What we started to see was very disturbing patterns between areas where there was high mortgage fraud and fires…. Cleans up the books….” And she goes on to says that she thinks that the FED is more powerful than it has ever been!

    Sorry for repost - just saw Norman's earlier post today - highly recommended video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rv2...outu.be&t=2749
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    Follow the power and control centers, not the money. Debt instruments, that is, "money" in all its forms, are created by those at the levers of power and control and used by them to obtain and maintain power and control. What we are witnessing this past 100 plus years and especially of late, is not about money. Money is for us peons. To keep us divided and conquered and to keep us focused on wasting our lives keeping up with the Joneses. Money is no longer for those who have and control true wealth.
    There's an analogy that I'm starting to grow fond of, for all this.

    Money is like the hydraulic fluid in heavy lift and earth moving equipment (bulldozers, backhoes, cranes, etc.). Hydraulic fluid transfers force from a pump to the place that's supposed to move.

    Hydraulic fluid can transfer substantial force, and it can do so flexibly around moving joints, when hydraulic hoses are used that handle the pressure.

    But hydraulic fluid is just a pressure transfer mechanism. The control valves decide where that pressure will go, and the pumps provide that pressure.

    ... and some union guy up in an air conditioned cab is pulling the levers that control those valves, and some guys in suits decided what to tell that union guy to do that day, and ... this analogy sooner or later regresses to the point of absurdity.

    But at least the "money is the hydraulic fluid" part of this analogy pleases me. Yes, one can figure out what part of that big piece of equipment will move, and where, by tracking that fluid. There is no inherent forecasting ability of what will actually move next or where it will move in such an analysis, but at least it's a way to model what's observed and what the potential variations are, within the existing observed range of motion, and its a way to anticipate how much could move, where, by observing where the pumps and reserve fluid tanks are, how big and strong they are, and how they are connected.

    Moving back to the world of money, someone with access to a billion dollar line of credit from a major bank can "make more things happen" that someone with no "connections" and with just $40.23 in their only bank account can do.
    It is interesting to observe how all things money are frequently denoted and referred to in terms of liquidity and the like. Such as: Money flows in the stream of commerce between the banks of productivity. Jordan Maxwell and others point out how use of such terms may be a carryover from maritime law, which many argue we are operating under.

    Your hydraulic fluid analogy is apropos.

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    100 Billion USD High Speed Rail & The California Fires.
    Anonymous 11/20/2018
    (Annoying trauma drama background music, but some pertinent info, though Feinstein and her husband are not mentioned, or their role in the project. )
    " What does The California High Speed Rail and Eminent Domain have in common with the California fires? MORE Info on this below:
    http://www.america2050.org/high-speed...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/bu...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/us...
    https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/...

    FRESNO, Calif. — It is vigorously opposed by Republicans, including President Trump. It has been plagued by escalating costs and delays. Californians are mostly against it. And a central question — how is it going to be paid for — remains unresolved.

    But here in the Central Valley, far from the debates in Washington and Sacramento, the $100 billion Los Angeles-to-San Francisco bullet train has moved off the drawing board and onto 21 construction sites spread across five Central California counties.

    Work began two weeks ago on one of the more ambitious pieces of the project — an overpass that will carry trains over a major highway in Fresno — and ground will be broken on three more viaducts in the next few months. Nearly 2,000 workers are on the job, starting as early as 5 a.m. to avoid the 110-degree afternoon heat. “Simply put, dirt is flying in the Central Valley,” the High-Speed Rail Authority declared in a recent business plan.

    Yet for all the cranes, crews in orange vests, beeping trucks and fresh concrete, it remains far from certain that this project will ever be completed. In addition to the lack of funding, it faces opposition from both Mr. Trump and Kevin McCarthy, the Bakersfield Republican who is the House majority leader.

    The continued delays and rising costs have fueled criticism that California, perhaps the most prosperous state in the nation, is squandering money on a transportation project that critics describe as a prime example of big government waste in a state controlled by Democrats.

    “This is going to be the most expensive and slowest form of fast rail imaginable,” said Jim Patterson, a former Fresno mayor who is now a Republican member of the Assembly and a critic of the project.

    For all the construction, the project faces the ever-present threat that a future governor may decide that state resources would be better used dealing with, to name one example, the housing crisis. Gov. Jerry Brown, a big proponent, is leaving office at the end of the year.

    Work on the $100 billion project is under way at 21 construction sites in five counties, even though not all the necessary financing is in place. Workers installed reinforcing steel for a bridge across the San Joaquin River."



    Some interesting comments on the youtube page such as:
    "MINDRIGHT
    1 day ago
    This sounds exactly like what is going on in Hawaii. We have a idiotic rail project that was crammed down our throats by the libtard Democrat legislators that the Hawaiian people voted down by nearly 65 percent 4 years ago. The project has made an absolute mess of the island of Oahu and is costing taxpayers 8 Billion Dollars and climbing while our homeless population continues to grow at an astounding rate. They have also eliminated car parking spaces on our streets to make room for stupid bike paths that no one uses. It's Agenda 21 in full swing. People here are like frogs in hot water. Once it starts to boil, it will be too late."


    Budokai 100mph
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    "Christ all mighty, those maps suggest those fires were started by someone who is politically motivated to remove property owners to keep the construction of that rail system going. Eww this doesn't look at all."


    Catherine McMartin
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    "This is what else is happening? They have 21 construction sites across California, Agenda 21! They have successfully started a war between the democrats and the republicans, and this is to keep us wasting time, we fight amongst each other so we don't see the walls coming in on us? Agenda 21, i believe, will be complete by 2021? They are more blatant in their attacks over the last week or so!? The people doing this are demon possessed and they only wish us harm! Satanists have taken over this world. The 13 bloodlines that own everything want us dead and they've panned out demise in grave detail. The truth is on everything, in everything, they tell us what they're doing if we but open our eyes!"

    Cerulean
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    "If homes get burned out the state gets emergency federal dollars that is how they plan to pay for the train."


    workaholic53
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    "What a boondoggle to support the lifestyles of Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein, not to mention defrauding the hard working people of California of their livlihoods, property and rights. Nothing says socialism/communism more strongly than the stealing of the rights of the landowners at the behest of the contractors and politicians, who in the case of Pelosi and Feinstein are the same thing."
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    Paul, I like the analogy. Allow me a little thought here... What could possibly be the little air bubble i the line that renders it useless? That's all it takes.

    One other possibility is to withdraw from using money, the oil. 'Just' disengage. But that means de-sublimating, back in place, the social structures that were, maybe purposefully, eroded. By the welfare system or other voter-buying and comfort inducing mechanisms.
    It seems like when direct danger subsides the catcalling by the man with pluche cushions in one hand and rangly-dangly small change in the other is enough over time to shift it all. Especially in high-trust societies, like ours were.

    But that demands a wide shift in awareness with many. The air bubble...would be easy. It is a problem the system always must use considerable effort for to keep out. Skip a little maintenance and boom.


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    What could possibly be the little air bubble i the line that renders it useless? That's all it takes.
    My impression is that industrial strength hydraulic, and monetary, systems are more robust than that.
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    EARTHQUAKE, EMP, 5G ATTACK PLANS - And More Bad News by Debra Tevares. Quite an overview! It does pertain to the fires. Apologizes if its already been posted.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NZo86TGDxg

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    Sorry if already posted, I searched the title. From February this year.

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    Jason Goodman with David Hawkins

    Beginning about 27:00 states PG&E had purchased a catastrophe bond for 200 million in July of this year
    Hawkins explains Catastrophe Bonds and who makes a lot of money if the catastrophe happens.

    The entire interview is worth a listen.

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    Quote Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
    Jason Goodman with David Hawkins

    Beginning about 27:00 states PG&E had purchased a catastrophe bond for 200 million in July of this year
    Hawkins explains Catastrophe Bonds and who makes a lot of money if the catastrophe happens.

    The entire interview is worth a listen.

    I have not watched this video yet, but I will. I just want to say one thing about bonds.

    A bond or bonds could be used as a very efficient and seemingly innocuous way to surreptitiously transfer vast sums of money from one sector of the economy, public or private, to another sector of the economy, public or private. How?

    For example, if PG&E takes out a "catastrophe" bond or bonds for $200 million, and if a covered catastrophe occurs, then the bonding companies or companies could be required to pay up to $200 million in a claim or in multiple claims. Unlike typical insurance policies, however, the bonding company (the surety) can go against the principal, here PG&E, to recover the $200 million it paid to the claimant(s).

    (In contrast, with few exceptions concerning subrogation rights with, for example, medical insurance policies, an insurance company cannot do that against the insured. So if you have a car accident and your insurance company pays $100,000 to the injured party, your insurance company cannot come after you to recover the $100,000. It may raise your rates or drop you, but it cannot seek to recoup the money it paid out from you.)

    If the bonding company is successful, then on the one hand $200 million goes to the claimant(s), and $200 million transfers from PG&E. Think of the consequences to PG&E. Think of the potential benefits to the claimants. And, in the final analysis Cui Bono?

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    That sounds a bit like what Catherine Austin Fitts was describing in her newest interview entitled "Government Taking Massive Amounts of Money Dark" here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rv2...outu.be&t=2749
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    A bond or bonds could be used as a very efficient and seemingly innocuous way to surreptitiously transfer vast sums of money from one sector of the economy, public or private, to another sector of the economy, public or private. How?
    For example, if PG&E takes out a "catastrophe" bond or bonds for $200 million, and if a covered catastrophe occurs, then the bonding companies or companies could be required to pay up to $200 million in a claim or in multiple claims. Unlike typical insurance policies, however, the bonding company (the surety) can go against the principal, here PG&E, to recover the $200 million it paid to the claimant(s).
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    Quote Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
    Jason Goodman with David Hawkins

    Beginning about 27:00 states PG&E had purchased a catastrophe bond for 200 million in July of this year
    Hawkins explains Catastrophe Bonds and who makes a lot of money if the catastrophe happens.

    The entire interview is worth a listen.
    It certainly is!

    Here are a few links to back up what David Hawkins said in the Crowd Source The Truth interview:

    SOLAREN: Directed Energy Satellites Provide California Power and Weather Control – PG&E partnership


    MIT Tech Review (2009)
    STARTUP TO BEAM POWER FROM SPACE


    GREEN TECH MEDIA (2009)
    "Winning that power contract with PG&E was a crucial step for Solaren, which would have had a more difficult time raising money without it. The 15-year agreement calls for Solaren to start delivering 1,700 gigawatt hours of electricity in mid-June 2016."

    I'm absolutely floored by this. Keep in mind ONE day after the Paradise fire started PG&E was already claiming responsibility for the fire via a downed power line. Since when do they do that?? Perhaps, "credible" for locals since PG&E has been shutting down power in Northern CA out of concern for "fire safety" in case there's a possibility of DOWNED POWER LINES.

    I rec'd around twenty of these on my phone:

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    The first time they did this, our power was out for three days (mid-October) out of an "overabundance of caution" for relatively wimpy weather conditions. What's "wimpy"? Winds at 6 mph, temps in the upper 70s, humidity 22%. And because of this, most businesses and some of the homes were operating on not-so-safe gas-powered generators--and PG&E is worried about "fire safety"?

    I had to take my kids into town at night for internet so they could do homework and we made the news because of it! Was I supposed to be grateful to PG&E when they deemed it "safe again" to turn our power back on? Feel protected when they turned it off again a few weeks later? Did they ever do a number on our psyches...

    No joke, since the 2017 CA fires, PG&E has been running these ridiculous tv ads where it appears as if the PG&E crews are teaching firefighters how to do their jobs.


    I hope some of this helps to put what's happening in Northern Cal into perspective. And that Catastrophe Bond!

    I can accept legit reasons for being without electricity. I can not accept being a tool of PG&E's perception deception on the Public leading to what Sierra, her family and neighbors went through in Paradise. She and her neighbors were horrifically, intentionally terrorized and those who didn't survive the fires were murdered.

    Most interesting, Ron Mauer Sr.'s related post on the "Deadly unusual wildfires... " thread.
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    The significance of this CAT Bond is monumental.

    James Hawkins comments about this FIRST 'wildfire exposed' CAT Bond issued in July:

    "...You have a sponsor and an investor. The sponsor, PGE, says - we're going to be cleaned out if everyone sues us for any fires in Paradise, so we'll start a CAT Bond for investors - like a network of dumb pension funds who don't believe a whole town like Paradise could burn down - to put down a certain amount of money which you only lose if the CAT Bond doesn't happen. An Escrow Lawyer holds BOTH funds - the sponsor's funds and the investor's funds. IF the catastrophe happens, ALL the investor's money is transferred to the sponsor.... and vice versa. In other words, the sponsor makes a killing if the catastrophe happens...."

    (partial screen capture from this link)
    http://www.artemis.bm/blog/2018/07/1...-for-pge-corp/


    image added: note that 100% goes either way. The PGE note had a 3-year term to either lose big or win big.
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    FIRES and PETS: Animals Left to Die in Paradise
    Officials BLOCKING Rescue Efforts
    Emergency Call to Action and Awareness
    11/29/18

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    Now happening in Australia ..... this time stretching 500 miles along a coastline.

    I keep imagining a documentary in 2050 saying "What was so amazing in the early 2000's was that so much genocide and massive destruction was happening all over the world and all the signs that these were targeted attacks were repeatedly ignored by the masses as if under a totally blinding spell of some sort for years except for a few who couldn't get anyone to see despite all the evidence. Here's examples of the massively destructive fires, tornados, floods and hurricanes that began the massive restructuring of the world from what it used to be..."

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    Paradise, Ca 'Camp' fire FLYOVER
    Get the big picture overview of the devastation and a better understanding of how this fire destroyed this town.
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    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by latte (here)
    This resident of Paradise talks about the roads that were recently narrowed causing the traffic jam that killed so many people that several other survivors have also talked about.

    There is another thread on the forum that mentions narrowing roads in other states...


    A viewer comment on this video. Lots of interesting info:


    "Serenity, Beautiful Serenity6 days ago (edited)

    Lost my house in this fire. It was ungodly hot, and fast. No warning, no ems message...just cries of “get out now!” being heard through the neighborhood. We lived off Pearson and Cherry. I was in that same traffic jam, only further down Pearson. I watched people abandon their cars behind me and make a run for it. A few passed me up on foot and then the smoke became so dark and heavy it took over the rest. The cars started moving ahead of me and I was blocked, and on fire. I put my car in low gear and pushed the car ahead of me over the side of the road and boogied out of there. When I got to Skyway it looked like a war zone and was pitch black, burning on both sides of the road. A couple and two other people hopped in my car and we barely made down. When I got out of my car at the college, I threw up from nerves and smoke. The left side of my car was blistered charted and smoking, my tail lights melted, license plate was melted, my tires and rims on the he left side were melted. I drove down on two flat tires. My dog and I were singed. My passengers clothes and shoes and feet were burned. We too witnessed those in their cars that did not make it. The fire started in Gorda by a faulty PG&E line. Here’s the kicker. I went with a friend to her parents house in Concow and we were roadblocked by PG&E. A week prior to the fire someone reported a faulty utility line just to the west of Concow, you know, the lines off the big towers, and the PG&E workers told us that the power surge from the fire in Paradise sparked the faulty utility line in Concow....her parents house burned and no one told them anything or let them in for four days....this fire was planned. It was supposed to have started a week earlier, in Concow and was supposed to take Paradise, Concow, Gorda and Big Bend. It is all Agenda 21. If you look at a map of where all the states fires have taken place over the past two years you will see those fires are in the same area California government wants to run their Redwood Express rail system. This rail system is to serve the masses in the stack and packs along the route. Guess who won the contract to build....Diane Feinstein’s husband. Also look up SB901, and for ****s and giggles, get a soil sample and leaf sample from our area and have them tested for excessive aluminum content. There will be no way the planning department will let any of us rebuild because they are going to deem the soils toxic. Personally, I plan on taking the insurance money and leaving California.✌️🖕But the first thing I am going to do is sue the governor, PG&E owners, interest holders and investors personally (not corporately) in to bankruptcy. I am suing for negligence, and property loss. I am also going to press criminal charges of attempted murder, extortion and emotional and physical harm on the above mentioned so they will learn something about personal accountability. You do not leave your states forests in such a disarray so they burn 80 football fields a minute (that is 272 mph), you do not leave a major utility line hanging for a week and let it spark, you do not charge me on my bill for a previous fire you are held accountable, and you do not endanger, mame, or murder people for personal gain. Please know that if you or your kids need an ear, I will be more than happy to email my phone number to you. Take care, and stay safe. We are the lucky ones. Oh and look up SB901. Oh and another thing, this fire was planned, just not the way it went down when or where."
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    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

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    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Another smoking gun to me - 1985 report on CNN showing what the ignition of a Russian DEW looks like and it's an exact match to the ignition of Paradise.


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