+ Reply to Thread
Page 11 of 11 FirstFirst 1 11
Results 201 to 217 of 217

Thread: The strangeness of the California Fires

  1. Link to Post #201
    Avalon Member
    Join Date
    4th January 2011
    Posts
    526
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 2,795 times in 476 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Another smoking gun. ONLY the contents of a high ceiling tire business/warehouse are completely destroyed.


  2. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to waves For This Post:

    conk (7th December 2018), James Newell (1st December 2018), peterpam (6th December 2018)

  3. Link to Post #202
    United States Administrator Paul's Avatar
    Join Date
    4th January 2011
    Location
    North Texas
    Age
    71
    Posts
    26,769
    Thanks
    26,230
    Thanked 121,336 times in 19,700 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by waves (here)
    Another smoking gun to me - 1985 report on CNN showing what the ignition of a Russian DEW looks like and it's an exact match to the ignition of Paradise.

    Two low resolution overhead views of a fire starting in strong winds, showing the smoke blowing strongly in one direction ... I wouldn't call that an exact match, as that phrase implies to me a greater level of precision than that.
    *** Avalon Forum Guidelines - Membership Guidelines.
    *** ProjectAvalonStatus.net - Check here for forum status.
    Formerly known as "ThePythonicCow", aka "Cow", "Mooster", ...

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Paul For This Post:

    Fansongecho (6th December 2018)

  5. Link to Post #203
    United States Administrator Paul's Avatar
    Join Date
    4th January 2011
    Location
    North Texas
    Age
    71
    Posts
    26,769
    Thanks
    26,230
    Thanked 121,336 times in 19,700 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by waves (here)
    Another smoking gun. ONLY the contents of a high ceiling tire business/warehouse are completely destroyed.

    Perhaps only the contents of the tire business were flammable, not the steel walls and ceiling, which sagged and partially melted from the heat, but did not burn?
    *** Avalon Forum Guidelines - Membership Guidelines.
    *** ProjectAvalonStatus.net - Check here for forum status.
    Formerly known as "ThePythonicCow", aka "Cow", "Mooster", ...

  6. Link to Post #204
    Avalon Member Flash's Avatar
    Join Date
    26th December 2010
    Location
    Montreal
    Posts
    9,014
    Thanks
    36,333
    Thanked 48,989 times in 8,326 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by waves (here)
    Another smoking gun. ONLY the contents of a high ceiling tire business/warehouse are completely destroyed.

    Perhaps only the contents of the tire business were flammable, not the steel walls and ceiling, which sagged and partially melted from the heat, but did not burn?
    yep

    So now, please, how can one explain that the twin towers with steel frame, in 2001, melted completely. Fire from jet fuel is not more hot than what we have seen in CA.
    How to let the desire of your mind become the desire of your heart - Gurdjieff

  7. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Flash For This Post:

    Arcturian108 (7th December 2018), conk (7th December 2018), mischief (1st December 2018), Paul (1st December 2018), peterpam (6th December 2018)

  8. Link to Post #205
    United States Administrator Paul's Avatar
    Join Date
    4th January 2011
    Location
    North Texas
    Age
    71
    Posts
    26,769
    Thanks
    26,230
    Thanked 121,336 times in 19,700 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    So now, please, how can one explain that the twin towers with steel frame, in 2001, melted completely. Fire from jet fuel is not more hot than what we have seen in CA.
    Whatever was the source of the melting/dustification/collapsing energy that took down those towers ... was a whole lot more intense than a jet fuel, or a rubber car tire, fire.

    Why do you ask?
    *** Avalon Forum Guidelines - Membership Guidelines.
    *** ProjectAvalonStatus.net - Check here for forum status.
    Formerly known as "ThePythonicCow", aka "Cow", "Mooster", ...

  9. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Paul For This Post:

    DNA (Yesterday), Forest Denizen (6th December 2018), peterpam (6th December 2018)

  10. Link to Post #206
    New Zealand Avalon Member
    Join Date
    25th May 2013
    Posts
    59
    Thanks
    539
    Thanked 203 times in 54 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    So now, please, how can one explain that the twin towers with steel frame, in 2001, melted completely. Fire from jet fuel is not more hot than what we have seen in CA.
    Whatever was the source of the melting/dustification/collapsing energy that took down those towers ... was a whole lot more intense than a jet fuel, or a rubber car tire, fire.

    Why do you ask?
    Maybe because it was odd. I thought it was odd at the time, but then I had family members who worked in demolition and took an interest in their type of work.

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to mischief For This Post:

    Arcturian108 (7th December 2018)

  12. Link to Post #207
    Great Britain Avalon Member Fansongecho's Avatar
    Join Date
    25th November 2018
    Age
    57
    Posts
    8
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 34 times in 6 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Hi Everyone, I am hoping folks might have some concrete information on the numbers that are missing after the last horrific fires that affected California please ?.. specifically do you have hard data on the Paradise fires and missing people - I am hoping to confirm the information that the entire town was destroyed and large portion of the population was killed and could not get out before the fires struck -

    This interview from last year - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWvuPcurB6Q

    https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a476195.pdf

    Many thanks,
    Fansongecho
    Last edited by Fansongecho; 6th December 2018 at 08:08. Reason: A useful file - if it isnt already on Avalon.
    We search by night and day -
    *Check - Check-6*

  13. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Fansongecho For This Post:

    Akasha (Yesterday), avid (6th December 2018), Bill Ryan (7th December 2018), DNA (Yesterday), RunningDeer (6th December 2018), Valerie Villars (6th December 2018)

  14. Link to Post #208
    United States Avalon Member RunningDeer's Avatar
    Join Date
    6th February 2012
    Location
    Forest Dweller
    Posts
    12,287
    Thanks
    92,512
    Thanked 101,865 times in 12,006 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    'Camp' Fire UPDATE Ignition Point Investigation (10:44 minutes)

    blancolirio
    Published on Dec 6, 2018


    Take a close look at the terrain and weather and powerlines where this devastating fire started.
    85 Fatalities 11 Missing to date.
    CORRECTION: Fire video from Derek Yarrow, Concow Ca.

    Theme Music:
    "Weightless"
    Aram Bedrosian
    http://www.arambedrosian.com

  15. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to RunningDeer For This Post:

    avid (6th December 2018), Bill Ryan (7th December 2018), DNA (Yesterday), Fansongecho (7th December 2018), onawah (6th December 2018), Paul (6th December 2018)

  16. Link to Post #209
    Avalon Member
    Join Date
    4th January 2011
    Posts
    526
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 2,795 times in 476 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by Fansongecho (here)
    Hi Everyone, I am hoping folks might have some concrete information on the numbers that are missing after the last horrific fires that affected California please ?.. specifically do you have hard data on the Paradise fires and missing people - I am hoping to confirm the information that the entire town was destroyed and large portion of the population was killed and could not get out before the fires struck.....
    There are never going to be believable concrete numbers but you couldn't get me to a lawyer fast enough to bet my house that there is great deceit being perpetrated in the dwindling official numbers. The number of 'confirmed dead' even went down from 88 to 85 and they were being super cautious every night for a while to not add anyone to that list unless identified while they paraded their new hi-tech 2-hours to ID DNA machine.

    First, the number of people living in the connected cluster of towns that had to evacuate was 52,000 not just the 26,000 in 'Paradise' the msm repeated so much. The likelihood that 1000's of elderly of 52,000 having escaped is not reasonable. There were two roads out period. Of those who got as far as trying to drive out, escapees are reporting many lines of backed up/abandoned cars and suspect 100's were burned in or out of them. If the heat damaged the car's ability to keep going, there's zero chance the 100's of elderly, kids or any other human in them could make it miles further down the road.

    Hopefully an independent discussion forum and tally by citizens doing it themselves will take place.

  17. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to waves For This Post:

    Arcturian108 (7th December 2018), avid (7th December 2018), Bill Ryan (7th December 2018), DNA (Yesterday), Fansongecho (7th December 2018), latte (7th December 2018), onawah (7th December 2018), RunningDeer (7th December 2018), Valerie Villars (7th December 2018)

  18. Link to Post #210
    Great Britain Avalon Member Fansongecho's Avatar
    Join Date
    25th November 2018
    Age
    57
    Posts
    8
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 34 times in 6 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Thanks for coming back to me on this waves. I just found this video -

    Its an over-fly of Paradise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LxWKaiZ5o4

    Cheers,

    Fansongecho -

    Latest Edit - http://www.stopthecrime.net/3Sec3c-DOD.pdf
    Last edited by Fansongecho; 8th December 2018 at 13:37. Reason: A useful file - if it isnt already on Avalon.
    We search by night and day -
    *Check - Check-6*

  19. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Fansongecho For This Post:

    avid (7th December 2018), Bill Ryan (7th December 2018), DNA (Yesterday), RunningDeer (7th December 2018)

  20. Link to Post #211
    United States Avalon Member Arcturian108's Avatar
    Join Date
    9th August 2015
    Location
    Blue Ridge Mountains
    Posts
    160
    Thanks
    1,940
    Thanked 893 times in 152 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    I believe that many on this forum consider David Wilcock not credible, but in researching the California fires I was drawn to watch his take on what took place there, and he didn't disappoint. In the video he mentions his source as being Henry Deacon, someone Bill has previously mentioned as being very credible, if I recall correctly. Anyway, i thought I should let you all see this fascinating exchange and judge for yourselves:


  21. Link to Post #212
    United States Administrator Paul's Avatar
    Join Date
    4th January 2011
    Location
    North Texas
    Age
    71
    Posts
    26,769
    Thanks
    26,230
    Thanked 121,336 times in 19,700 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    I believe that many on this forum consider David Wilcock not credible, but in researching the California fires I was drawn to watch his take on what took place there, and he didn't disappoint. In the video he mentions his source as being Henry Deacon, someone Bill has previously mentioned as being very credible, if I recall correctly. Anyway, i thought I should let you all see this fascinating exchange and judge for yourselves:
    It sounds a bit fantastic to me, starting with David Wilcock once again overselling his knowledge.

    Then when he gets to the topic of the recent California fires, Wilcock is saying that Paradise, California, and parts of Los Angeles, California, were deliberately burned (that much I might accept) as part of a Satanic ritual by the Deep State (that too, I might accept).

    Wilcock goes on to say that the reason that Paradise was targeted was because, by some treaty, some few hundred to few thousand Alpha Centurions lived there, in underground bases, with access through elevators descending from ordinary looking homes, and for some reason, perhaps to stop disclosure, the Deep State was pissed and targeted this town where so many Alpha Centurions lived.

    Starting at about 33:50, Wilcock hypes up the expertise of Dr. Pete Peterson to some level that would make both Pete Peterson himself, as well as Nicola Tesla, blush. "Pete" is painted as a world class expert in a wide variety of alien, advanced and exotic technologies.

    Wilcock then says that Pete (and another source that is questioned around here, Corey Goode) told Wilcock that Alpha Centurions were residing in Paradise and that the Paradise fire was to burn down their homes.

    Wilcock suspects that the Centurions were going to come forward and disclose themselves, and the Deep State put a stop to it.

    Wilcock concludes by guaranteeing us that he and they will not be intimidated, that disclosure will not be stopped, and "that we are going to make this thing happen, no matter what."

    ===

    Sounds fishy to me.
    *** Avalon Forum Guidelines - Membership Guidelines.
    *** ProjectAvalonStatus.net - Check here for forum status.
    Formerly known as "ThePythonicCow", aka "Cow", "Mooster", ...

  22. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Paul For This Post:

    Arcturian108 (8th December 2018), avid (8th December 2018), DNA (Yesterday), Fansongecho (8th December 2018), onawah (8th December 2018), RunningDeer (8th December 2018)

  23. Link to Post #213
    United States Avalon Member onawah's Avatar
    Join Date
    28th March 2010
    Posts
    9,766
    Thanks
    23,288
    Thanked 41,144 times in 8,421 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    That's a whopper!
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Sounds fishy to me.
    Each breath a gift...
    _____________

  24. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to onawah For This Post:

    avid (8th December 2018), Fansongecho (8th December 2018), Paul (8th December 2018), RunningDeer (8th December 2018), Satori (Yesterday)

  25. Link to Post #214
    Avalon Member Flash's Avatar
    Join Date
    26th December 2010
    Location
    Montreal
    Posts
    9,014
    Thanks
    36,333
    Thanked 48,989 times in 8,326 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    I believe that many on this forum consider David Wilcock not credible, but in researching the California fires I was drawn to watch his take on what took place there, and he didn't disappoint. In the video he mentions his source as being Henry Deacon, someone Bill has previously mentioned as being very credible, if I recall correctly. Anyway, i thought I should let you all see this fascinating exchange and judge for yourselves:
    It sounds a bit fantastic to me, starting with David Wilcock once again overselling his knowledge.

    Then when he gets to the topic of the recent California fires, Wilcock is saying that Paradise, California, and parts of Los Angeles, California, were deliberately burned (that much I might accept) as part of a Satanic ritual by the Deep State (that too, I might accept).

    Wilcock goes on to say that the reason that Paradise was targeted was because, by some treaty, some few hundred to few thousand Alpha Centurions lived there, in underground bases, with access through elevators descending from ordinary looking homes, and for some reason, perhaps to stop disclosure, the Deep State was pissed and targeted this town where so many Alpha Centurions lived.

    Starting at about 33:50, Wilcock hypes up the expertise of Dr. Pete Peterson to some level that would make both Pete Peterson himself, as well as Nicola Tesla, blush. "Pete" is painted as a world class expert in a wide variety of alien, advanced and exotic technologies.

    Wilcock then says that Pete (and another source that is questioned around here, Corey Goode) told Wilcock that Alpha Centurions were residing in Paradise and that the Paradise fire was to burn down their homes.

    Wilcock suspects that the Centurions were going to come forward and disclose themselves, and the Deep State put a stop to it.

    Wilcock concludes by guaranteeing us that he and they will not be intimidated, that disclosure will not be stopped, and "that we are going to make this thing happen, no matter what."

    ===

    Sounds fishy to me.
    Luca should hire them for a new movie: 3 stooges spaced out lol
    How to let the desire of your mind become the desire of your heart - Gurdjieff

  26. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Flash For This Post:

    avid (Yesterday), onawah (Yesterday), Paul (Yesterday), RunningDeer (Yesterday), Valerie Villars (Yesterday)

  27. Link to Post #215
    UK Avalon Founder Bill Ryan's Avatar
    Join Date
    7th February 2010
    Location
    Ecuador
    Posts
    18,299
    Thanks
    58,054
    Thanked 230,470 times in 16,724 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Sounds fishy to me.
    That's a wonderfully British understatement.



    Let me try to break this down a little. I did know 'Henry Deacon' very well. Bulletpoints below.
    • Henry did mention the Alpha Centaurans, several times. He stated that three of the planets were inhabited by human-like beings. As usual, he was 100% consistent with what he said.
    • He did not mention that they were here on Earth, underground or elsewhere.
    • He never mentioned Paradise to us, at any point.
    • We did hear from two separate witnesses (not Henry) that one or more of the Las Vegas casinos contain elevators that, if one presses a certain code sequence of buttons, will go not up, but DOWN to access the 'sub-trans' rail network. We were told that this is how employees go to work, even daily, in desert locations that have no road or air access. They're dressed as gamblers or casino visitors on vacation, and attract no attention to themselves. (We did find this credible.)
    • Any ET 'psychic competition' in casinos wouldn't be against one another. All competition by gamblers, psychic or otherwise, is against the casino bank. David appears not to understand how betting in casinos actually works. If the psychic gamblers were winning, then someone would have had to compensate the casinos big time.
    • Any testimony from Pete Peterson can now (in my very strong opinion) be discarded.
    • The claimed ETs in Paradise, with the apparency of living in regular houses but with elevator shafts going down to an underground base, would (if that was the setup) would most definitely have been able to escape the fire. It would take barely any time at all to evacuate a house by going DOWN in an elevator if it became apparent that there was serious danger outside. If one thinks about this SciFi scenario, the capacity for emergency escape (from anyone or anything) via an in-house elevator would have been built-in as an essential feature. Being trapped wouldn't and couldn't have happened.
    Again, this is another instance of not only David Wilcock not thinking these issues through logically, but his interviewers failing to think of any good 'wait a minute' questions to ask.

  28. The Following 16 Users Say Thank You to Bill Ryan For This Post:

    Akasha (Yesterday), anandacate (Yesterday), avid (Today), Bob (Yesterday), Dennis Leahy (Yesterday), DNA (Yesterday), Hervé (Yesterday), muxfolder (Yesterday), norman (Yesterday), onawah (Yesterday), Patient (Yesterday), Paul (Yesterday), Satori (Yesterday), seko (Yesterday), Valerie Villars (Yesterday), Yoda (Yesterday)

  29. Link to Post #216
    Avalon Member Akasha's Avatar
    Join Date
    19th September 2012
    Location
    Hungary
    Age
    47
    Posts
    1,301
    Thanks
    4,683
    Thanked 3,598 times in 1,102 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Quote Posted by Fansongecho (here)
    Hi Everyone, I am hoping folks might have some concrete information on the numbers that are missing after the last horrific fires that affected California please ?.. specifically do you have hard data on the Paradise fires and missing people - I am hoping to confirm the information that the entire town was destroyed and large portion of the population was killed and could not get out before the fires struck -

    This interview from last year - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWvuPcurB6Q

    https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a476195.pdf

    Many thanks,
    Fansongecho
    Hey Fansongecho and welcome to Avalon!

    Regarding the video from 2017, the YouTube channel it is on is a proponent of flat Earth, thereby giving credence to the notion that the FE psy-op helps to discredit valid material by association, this being a classic example.

    I still appreciate the post though.
    the greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated --- Gandhi

  30. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Akasha For This Post:

    avid (Today), RunningDeer (Today), scotslad (Today), Valerie Villars (Yesterday)

  31. Link to Post #217
    United States Avalon Member onawah's Avatar
    Join Date
    28th March 2010
    Posts
    9,766
    Thanks
    23,288
    Thanked 41,144 times in 8,421 posts

    Default Re: The strangeness of the California Fires

    Some very good info being shared here by Deborah Tavares and Elana Freeland:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1263395
    Each breath a gift...
    _____________

  32. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to onawah For This Post:

    avid (Today), RunningDeer (Today)

+ Reply to Thread
Page 11 of 11 FirstFirst 1 11

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts