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    The satellite images of the blasts and then fires are pretty good evidence of high chicanery. CaLif needs more fed aid so lets have an emergency.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3efGrrkR87Q

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    I didn't see any posts yet about the latest blazes in California?

    The picture is from this article Live updates: Kincade Fire now threatens 80,000 structures, containment drops
    By Anna Bauman, Dominic Fracassa and Chronicle staff Oct. 27, 2019




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    Kincade Fire: 180,000 under evacuation orders in Sonoma County, California — live updates
    BY CAROLINE LINTON
    UPDATED ON: OCTOBER 27, 2019 / 10:35 PM / CBS NEWS
    ( (videos at the link): https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/fi...es-2019-10-27/
    Hurricane-force winds created blowtorch-like conditions overnight in Northern California as the Kincade Fire continued to rage Sunday. As of 6:30 p.m. PT, the fire had burned more than 54,000 acres and was only 5% contained.

    California Governor Gavin Newsom has declared a statewide state of emergency Sunday, which allows "every resource available" fight the wildfire.

    Approximately 180,000 people are under evacuation orders, the Sonoma County Sheriff tweeted. "This is the largest evacuation that any of us at the Sheriff's Office can remember. Take care of each other," the Sheriff's office tweeted.
    Cal Fire said Sunday night that two firefighters have been injured fighting the Kincade Fire.

    In Southern California, the Tick Fire in Santa Clarita had burned over 4,600 acres and was 70% contained as of Sunday night. At its height, nearly 50,000 residents were ordered to evacuate. They have since been allowed back home as Santa Ana winds started to subside.



    Kincade Fire grows to more than 54,000 acres burned and containment goes down
    The Kincade Fire grew to more than 54,000 acres on Sunday but the containment had gone down to 5%, Cal Fire said at a press conference at 6:30 p.m. PT. The evacuation orders are still in place.

    Two firefighters were injured Sunday fighting the blaze, Jonathan Cox of Cal Fire said during a press conference. One suffered minor burn injuries, but another suffered significant burn injuries and had to be airlifted to the UC Davis Medical Center.

    The fire has destroyed 94 structures and damaged 17 structures, and officials say 80,000 structures are threatened.

    The National Weather Service said there were "clearly challenging conditions on the firelines" on Sunday. The wind is expected to shift Monday, and there will be a 24-hour wind of favorable conditions. But there will be another wind event Tuesday night and there is no rain expected for the rest of the month.

    One person was arrested Sunday for possible looting in the fire zone, authorities said.As firefighters battle the blaze on the front lines, there is an emerging housing crisis in Marin County as thousands of people struggle to try to find a place to ride out this firestorm, CBS News' Jonathan Vigliotti reported. At a Red Cross shelter that was set up Sunday morning, there was a long line of people of about 100 people waiting to get in. CBS News has been told that already 200 people have settled in.

    There are a lot of people with last-minute things they were able to grab before being evacuated, including cats and dogs and possibly a python and lizard inside.

    More than 2 million people are without power -- a lot of them coming to shelters so they can get cellphone service.

    Then there are those that are part of a mandatory evacuation, those who have no chance to stay at home, many of them seeking a safe place. CBS News has learned there's at least one more power outage scheduled for Sunday and as a result, more shelters will be opening.

    Light of day giving a look at the damage on the ground
    The light of day gave a look at the damage on the ground in Alexander Valley, CBS News' Janet Shamlian reported from Windsor, California. The fire is still smoldering hours later, with hot spots popping up long after firefighters were forced to move to the next emergency.

    "Not over yet by a long shot," police told CBS News. "Unfortunately, we are looking at these winds to continue throughout Sunday."

    Conditions are expected to be very bad Sunday night.PG&E monitoring 3rd consecutive wind event
    Pacific Gas & Energy said Sunday that it's monitoring a third consecutive wind event that could affect 32 counties across Northern and Central California. PG&E began cutting power for more than 2 million homes and business Saturday, including 1.3 million in the Bay area.

    The new, potentially widespread, strong and dry wind event is forecast for Tuesday morning through midday Wednesday for Northern California, according to PG&E. The weather system is forecast to impact Kern County late Tuesday through Thursday morning.

    Due to the predicted extreme weather conditions, PG&E said it's considering proactively turning off power for safety.

    Portions of counties that may be impacted include, but are not limited to:

    Alameda
    Alpine
    Amador
    Butte
    Calaveras
    Colusa
    Contra Costa
    El Dorado
    Glenn
    Humboldt
    Kern
    Lake
    Marin
    Mariposa
    Mendocino
    Napa
    Nevada
    Placer
    Plumas
    San Mateo
    Santa Clara
    Santa Cruz
    Shasta
    Sierra
    Solano
    Sonoma
    Stanislaus
    Tehama
    Trinity
    Tuolumne
    Yolo
    Yuba
    Evacuations lifted in Crockett, California
    Evacuation orders were lifted shortly after 12 p.m. PT in Crockett, located less than 30 miles from San Francisco. The fires erupted along Interstate 80, sending billowing smoke and flames toward the freeway, forcing the California Highway Patrol to shut it down.

    The fire started Sunday morning across the Carquinez Strait near the Carquinez Bridge toll plaza in Vallejo, CBS San Francisco reported. The Carquinez Bridge and adjacent portions of I-80 were closed to traffic, as was the Cummings Skyway.

    The area of Clearpointe Drive and Del Sur Street in Vallejo was evacuated by safety personnel, according to the CHP, as a brush fire that started shortly after 9 a.m. PT spread across the Carquinez Strait to Crockett, where officials issued evacuation order for the town.

    Soda Rock Winery at a "complete loss"
    The fire devastated the Soda Rock Winery in the Heraldsburg's Alexander Valley overnight, leaving many of the structures in smoldering ruins by daybreak.

    The winery is a "complete loss" after a roof collapse, Cal Fire told the San Francisco Chronicle.

    The historic winery was founded in 1869 and was completely restored by Ken and Diane Wilson in 2000.

    Kincade Fire jumps containment lines on Highway 128
    A wall of fire rapidly approaching Windsor around 9:30 a.m. PT, triggering a frantic call from the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department for residents -- who had ignored a mandatory evacuation order Saturday -- to flee immediately, CBS San Francisco reported.

    "Heavy smoke, debris and strong wind reported near Brooks and Arata in Windsor," the department urged in an online alert. "If you are in Windsor you need to get out now."

    Cal Fire said the blaze had jumped containment lines on Highway 128. The fire had only been 11% contained when the winds kicked up.

    "There were containment lines that were overtaken by the fire," Cal Fire spokesman Brian Vitorelo said early Sunday. "The fire continues to increase."

    Sonoma County deputies also said the fire had advanced into southwest edge of Geyserville near Chalk Hill Road. The strong winds had toppled trees onto Chalk Hill Road, making any escape difficult for residents who had ignored an earlier evacuation order.

    Kincade Fire at 10% containment and burned more than 30,000 acres
    The Kincade Fire was only 10% contained as of 8 a.m. PT on Sunday, having burned 30,000 acres.

    More than 3,000 fire personnel were fighting the fire from 68 crews were battling the fire. It has destroyed 79 structures and damaged 14.

    Nearly 180,000 people were under evacuation orders Sunday.

    Tick Fire at 65% containment
    The Tick Fire in Los Angeles County was at 65% containment as of 8 a.m. PT. The fire had burned more than 4,000 acres, destroying 22 structures and damaging 27 structures.

    Three firefighters were injured.

    At its height, nearly 50,000 residents were ordered to evacuate, CBS Los Angeles reported. They have since been allowed back home as Santa Ana winds started to subside."

    More here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/2479269001/
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    Rolling blackouts have certainly failed to stop the fire storm. At the same time people are dealing with the fires, they are also dealing with no power. This is certainly a melt down in California where even the governor has railed against the power company's actions. Apparently there is also difficulty finding out information in real time to make decisions.

    I found a website with frequent updates here called wildfiretoday

    There are comments including these

    Quote Montana NARsays:
    October 27, 2019 at 11:32 am
    Thanks for these posts, Bill! With the demise of InciWeb, their fire incident information is being strictly limited. It is difficult to find out any information about these fires, especially when compared to the info available three or four years ago. InciWeb has been effectively dumbed down. And fire information is “disappeared” quickly, so unless one is keeping a personal log of these massive, cataclysmic fires, one can’t find history and maps of a fire’s progression.

    I am not impressed with CalFire, either. In 2018, there was more daily fire info than there is this year. The daily basic form that is filled out per fire has less and less information on it.

    Why in the world would the government agencies collude to keep this information from the public??

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    October 27, 2019 at 12:06 pm
    It is a stunningly poor decision for the State of California, including all agencies involved, to reduce or restrict information available to the public regarding fires. Do the bureaucrats involved imagine the public will somehow not second-guess their decisions, if information is not available in real-time? The public needs information to make informed decisions and take action to protect themselves. Relying on the government is a time-proven disaster. Signed, Carr Fire Victim.
    All I can think is that California Strangeness seems aimed at destroying the state. The same person Richard Pan who orchestrated the draconian mandates for vaccination has also been involved in legislation that would shut off online information deemed "fake"

    Quote California Democrat pushes new law to gut First Amendment
    By Peter Barry Chowka
    April 13, 2018


    There seems to be nothing the Democrats in California won't do to fan the flames of the destruction of this country, its laws, and its institutions – and now, one of its essential founding documents, the Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution. We have making California a sanctuary state for illegal aliens, passing a law that makes it a crime for businesses to cooperate with federal authorities seeking to enforce immigration laws, automatically registering as voters all residents with driver's licenses (including 1 million illegal aliens) – and now, a state legislator who wants to, in effect, restrict or overturn the First Amendment that guarantees the unfettered and unregulated right to free speech.



    The author of the proposed legislation is Dr. Richard Pan, a medical doctor whose specialty is pediatrics. Pan, 52, like many of his Democrat colleagues in California's one-party state government, is a legislator on the far left. He served in California's State Assembly for four years before his election to the California Senate in 2014. Prior to running for elective office, Pan was a professor at the U.C. Davis Children's Hospital, where he led the pediatric residency program.

    Joel B. Pollak, in an article at Breitbart on April 4, reported the shocking news about the new law Pan is proposing:

    California State Senator Dr. Richard Pan (D-Sacramento) has proposed a bill, the "Online False Information Act," that would require anyone who posts news on the Internet to verify their information through "fact-checkers."

    The bill, filed quietly in late February as SB 1424, requires all California-based websites to develop a plan to fight "fake news," to use "fact-checkers," and to warn readers – including via social media – of "false information."


    California state senator Dr. Richard Pan (D-Sacramento).

    The story seems unbelievable – but sadly, it is all too true. Quoting from the proposed legislation:

    (a) Any person who operates a social media Internet Web site with physical presence in California shall develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Internet Web site.

    (b) The strategic plan shall include, but is not limited to, all of the following:

    (1) A plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories.

    (2) The utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories.

    (3) Providing outreach to social media users regarding news stories containing false information.

    (4) Placing a warning on a news story containing false information.

    (c) As used in this section, "social media" means an electronic service or account, or electronic content, including, but not limited to, videos, still photographs, blogs, video blogs, podcasts, instant and text messages, email, online services or accounts, or Internet Web site profiles or locations.

    According to Pollak at Breitbart, "[t]he bill would arguably impose onerous costs on individuals and businesses alike, and would serve as a tool for censorship by subjecting dissenting opinions to review via 'fact-checkers.'"

    Journalist Jon Rappoport picked up and advanced the story in a column at his No More Fake News website on April 9, "Astonishing California bill would shut down free speech, require fact-checkers:"

    California used to be trumpeted as the cutting edge of American culture.

    It still is, except the culture is now all about censoring free speech.

    California Senator Richard Pan, who was behind the infamous 2015 law mandating vaccinations for schoolchildren (SB277), has stepped up to the plate and introduced another bill.

    This one would clamp down on criticism of ANY Official Story.

    Both of these articles – Joel B. Pollak's at Breitbart and Jon Rappoport's – are important reading.

    To date, other than Breitbart, reporting on S.B. 1424 has been minimal except for brief stories in some online new media and blogs. Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit took note of the proposed law in an article on April 9 and concluded it with a quote from actor James Woods: "Scratch a liberal, find a fascist."

    Peter Barry Chowka is a veteran reporter and analyst of news on national politics, media, and popular culture. He is a frequent contributor to American Thinker. Follow Peter on Twitter at @pchowka.
    My thinking has been drifting to Richard Pan second generation Chinese as an agent (acting with others) to destroy the country starting form the west coast. The appearance is of a CONSPIRACY of many with dovetailing agendas that all aim at DELIBERATE take down of California. I am so grieved for the people. I am aggrieved at what looks like conscious destruction of the basis of civil order.

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    Kerry & Deborah Tavares broadcasting on Saturday 10/26 re the fires
    Project Camelot

    "This is a live broadcast with Deborah Tavares who is on the road checking out the fires in the area near the Geysers and insider info on what's really happening... We managed to obtain a live report from a former Northern California Fire Captain (Matt) who is currently fighting the fire at his property in the Kincaid area. Vital on the scene info."


    I except Snoop4truth will have something to say about this on his thread:
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    I think Snoop4truth may be properly concerned? False information to buttress her position is disgraceful.

    My POV is that in fact, Taveres uses the knowing we have that the systems managing our daily life are NOT based on maintaining the REAL common good.I look at various issues and see the same intentions manifested... "power and control relentlessly waged in order to USE and ABUSE the individual beings (of all kinds) living on this planet."

    People who are looking for the truth find her. I don't know why she manipulates and lies? That is what I think she is guilty of doing. She has a whole slew of fellow travelers in her work of deceiving. They are found in all the camps who paint their chosen enemies to blame and deliberately create mis-information. Just because she expresses some of my concerns, that does not make her a reliable source. MAYBE she thinks that only by magnifying or manufacturing information can she arouse others to her concerns?

    That is why we really need to learn how to think through information and have a willingness to look at facts that don't fit our "beliefs". WE NEED SOUND INFORMATION, not propaganda. That is why it terribly horrifically dangerous to allow the filtering that is occurring with information platforms.

    FYI, I had seen this short article before

    Quote Aluminum Dust from Geoengineering Fueling Super Wildfires According to Author
    Denis Mills
    Sep 06, 2018


    LOS ANGELES, Sept. 6, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- While researching for his new novel, author Denis Mills discovered an alarming link between chemtrails and the super wildfires.

    The author discovered that unprecedented levels of aluminum and barium nanodust, primary components in chemtrails, both of which are incendiary, are fueling the ferocity of the super wildfires.

    A retired USAF brigadier general, Gen. Charles Jones, has been quoted from a public source as stating, "These white aircraft spray trails are the result of scientifically verifiable spraying of aluminum particles and other toxic heavy metals, polymers and chemicals."

    "Millions of tons of aluminum and barium are being sprayed almost daily across the U.S., stated Mills, a former naval officer and UCLA graduate. "Just sprinkle aluminum or barium dust on a fire and see what happens. It's near explosive. When wildfires break out, the aluminum/barium dust results in levels of fire intensity so great as to cause firefighters to coin a new term ̶ 'firenados,' " he said. The entire U.S., in addition to various other NATO countries, are being sprayed."

    The government has for years denied the existence of chemtrail spraying. It now calls the program by various names, all under Geoengineering.

    According to Cal Fire operation chief Steve Crawford, the fires are burning differently and more aggressively. It has been reported the fires move faster than anyone has ever seen and barriers that in years past contained them such as rivers, no longer do.

    In California's Mt. Shasta region, Francis Mangel, a USDA biologist tested and found elevated levels of aluminum in water and soil samples of 4,610 parts per million which is 25,000 times the safe guidelines of the World Health Organization.

    Some have claimed Mr. Mills is publicity-seeking for his teen and young adult fiction adventure series, Matt Legend, about four teens who encounter and battle the supernatural and all kinds of strange things, including the forces behind the chemtrails. The adventure thriller is being called the new Harry Potter. Mr. Mills states the research speaks for itself and the novel is only what led to the discovery. "Authors are known for researching things to death," he stated. No one can argue, however, the wildfires' newfound ferocity or the millions of tons of aluminum/barium nanodust which have appeared, which is killing vegetation and causing illness and death.

    "Matt Legend: Veil of Lies" on Amazon:
    https://www.amazon.com/Matt-Legend-V...ds=matt+legend
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    I found a few articles about geoengineering and fires

    Quote Geoengineering risks losers as well as winners for climate and wildfire risks
    by University of Exeter


    It’s important to consider "regional details" as well as global averages, researchers say. Credit: University of Exeter
    Artificially altering the climate system to limit global warming to 1.5C could increase the risks of wildfires in some areas, new research suggests.

    While the international community is already aiming to limit global warming to below 2C by reducing greenhouse gas emissions, the more ambitious aim of a 1.5C limit is known to be challenging to reach in this way.

    An additional method to further limit warming might be to release sulphur dioxide high in the atmosphere, to produce a thin veil of droplets that would reflect some sunlight back to space and help keep the Earth cool.

    However, the new research suggests that this method of geoengineering could also introduce its own new impacts by shifting global rainfall patterns.

    The research by scientists at the University of Exeter and the Met Office Hadley Centre, carried out as part of the EU-funded project HELIX, looked at the implications of this for global patterns of wildfire using computer models of the global climate.

    Their simulations suggested that, while the cooler global temperatures would overall lead to lower fire risk at 1.5C global warming compared to 2C, some regions would actually see an increase in fire risk because of drier and warmer conditions locally.

    Lead author Chantelle Burton, of the University of Exeter, said: "This illustrates the complexity of actively trying to change the climate, rather than simply reducing our influence on it. Interventions meant to reduce impacts could actually increase the impacts for many people."

    In the models, most parts of the world saw 30 fewer days per year with high fire risk.

    However, up to 31 more days with high fire risk were seen in parts of North and South America, east and south Asia and southern Africa.

    Professor Richard Betts, a co-author of the study and director of the HELIX project, said: "It is clear that overall there are benefits to limiting global warming.

    "However, it's important to look beyond simply global average temperatures and consider the regional details, especially if more radical measures such as geoengineering were ever to be considered.

    "If interventions led to losers as well as winners, how would we deal with the ethics of this?"

    The paper, published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, is entitled: "Will fire danger be reduced by using solar radiation management to limit global warming to 1.5°C compared to 2.0°C?"
    Quote California Wildfires: Role of Undisclosed Atmospheric Manipulation and Geoengineering
    J. Marvin Herndon and Mark Whiteside
    Nov 14, 2018,


    -- California Governor Jerry Brown blames climate change for the currently raging wildfires in California. A recently published scientific article challenges that assertion, and reveals a fundamentally different underlying cause for the California wildfire severity that officials have neglected to disclose.

    Published October 1, 2018 in the Journal of Geography, Environment and Earth Science International, the scientific article by J. Marvin Herndon, PhD, of Transdyne Corporation and Mark Whiteside, MD, MPH, a Florida Department of Health physician, reveals an unrecognized source of causality leading to increases in combustibility, intensity, and the extent of California, wildfires, and the concomitant harm to human and environmental health

    The authors, as noted in the article, "review the evidence that atmospheric manipulation utilizing aerosolized coal fly ash is a primary factor in the extent and severity of forest fires in California and elsewhere; adverse effects include exacerbation of drought, tree and vegetation die- off and desiccation, and unnaturally heating the atmosphere and surface regions of Earth."

    Jet-spraying tiny particles into the region where clouds form, instead of compensating for global warming as some climate scientists wrongly believe, does quite the opposite including, as the article reveals, inhibiting rainfall, retarding heat loss from the surface, contributing to global warming, blocking the flow of moisture-laden clouds from the Pacific, causing climate chaos, poisoning the environment, and posing serious potential health risks to humans.

    The article further reveals, "Forest combustibility is increased by moisture-absorbing aerosolized particles that damage the waxy coatings of leaves and needles, reducing their tolerance to drought. The aerial climate manipulation using coal fly ash greatly increases the potential for forest fire ignition by lightning.

    In addition as the article discloses, "Wildfires dramatically worsen baseline air pollution, emitting harmful gases and volatile organic compounds, and they both concentrate and re-emit toxic elements and radioactive nuclides over a wide area."

    As the article states, "The type of air pollution created by wildfires is associated with increased all-cause mortality, with the greatest impact on respiratory and cardiovascular disease. Studies have shown that aerosolized coal fly ash is an important risk factor for chronic lung disease, lung cancer and neurodegenerative disease. Failure to recognize multifold adverse consequences of jet-spraying particulates into the atmosphere … will continue the progression of ever-accelerating ecological disasters."

    The undisclosed jet-sprayed tiny particles do not remain in the region where clouds form, but mix with the air we breathe posing, without informed consent, human and environmental health calamities. No one has the right to poison the air we breathe or to corrupt our planet's complex and interrelated natural processes that makes life on Earth possible. The raging severity of the California wildfires should be a wakeup call for prudent citizens to demand an immediate and permanent halt to all geoengineering activities.

    Information and pdf: http://www.nuclearplanet.com/cawf2.pdf

    Source:

    J. Marvin Herndon, Ph.D.
    Transdyne Corporation
    858-869-1964
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    Email: 204818@email4pr.com
    Website: http://NuclearPlanet.com

    SOURCE J. Marvin Herndon and Mark Whiteside
    Quote Could Northern California’s “Wildfires” Be Directly Related To Geoengineering?
    Posted by Erin Elizabeth | Oct 10, 2017
    By Dr. Steven Amato, contributing writer for geoengineeringwatch.orgcom/could-northern-californias-wildfires-be-directly-related-to-geoengineering/


    Fire personnel are saying the fires destroying tens of thousands of acres in the northern part of the state are like nothing they’ve seen before. They comment in amazement and concern on the ignition metrics, fuel consumption and intense heat being generated by these fires. Could there be a connection between the intentionally sprayed aerosol particulate trails (which contain aluminum and barium) and the intense heat being generated by these fires?

    Aluminum is a powerful conductor of electricity and heat. Because it’s lighter than copper, it is often used in aircraft to cut down on weight. Electrical contractors use aluminum wire as a substitute for copper because of its lower cost per foot. Remember, nano-sized particles contained in the aerosols are an infinitesimally fine dust. They are a metal, and they do coat the leaves, the duff below the tree canopy and fuel sources on the ground. When this dust ignites, which it does because it is not in its dense form, an un-natural, tremendous quantity of heat is generated. Coupled with the extreme dryness caused by bad actors engineering our drought, and you have the ingredients for catastrophic destructive forces. One would not be going out on a limb by characterizing the unfolding events as a false flag, having been consciously (or unconsciously) engineered ahead of time.
    If the pseudoscientific thinking behind the geo-engineering were truly scientific, they would have factored ignition effects of aluminum into the equation before deciding to move forward with their plans to drought the state using aluminum, barium and strontium, known desiccants with powerful drying properties.

    Where is the governor during all this? He’s signing legislation that will force Californian’s into mandatory vaccinations that science has shown can cause autism and death in children and adults. Parents must now decide whether to compromise their children’s health risks, or bear the expense of private or home schooling. Jerry Brown is also preparing to strip private property rights to water on privately owned lands.

    If you think there’s something wrong with this picture, you’re not a conspiracy theorist, you’re conspiracy analyst. Think for a minute about the possibility of continued aerosol activity leading to fresh produce and grape production cut backs. You can see, regardless of the intentions behind the parties geoengineering pseudoscientific nonsense, the entire program to drought the west has no science to support it; that is unless the science is a military strategy of aggression… in which case it makes perfect sense.

    The evidence is mounting against the powerful interests behind this epic violation of nature and its balanced forces. There can be no valid argument for what’s been going on in the skies above our heads for the last decade. The point of critical mass has arrived. Pretending it will go away is more than foolish, it’s abetting criminal behavior. The public deserves an explanation and it deserves that explanation now.
    This is a guest piece By Dr. Steven Amato, contributing writer for geoengineeringwatch.org
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    Your concerns are shared! See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1320329

    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    I think Snoop4truth may be properly concerned? False information to buttress her position is disgraceful.

    My POV is that in fact, Taveres uses the knowing we have that the systems managing our daily life are NOT based on maintaining the REAL common good.I look at various issues and see the same intentions manifested... "power and control relentlessly waged in order to USE and ABUSE the individual beings (of all kinds) living on this planet."

    People who are looking for the truth find her. I don't know why she manipulates and lies? That is what I think she is guilty of doing. She has a whole slew of fellow travelers in her work of deceiving. They are found in all the camps who paint their chosen enemies to blame and deliberately create mis-information. Just because she expresses some of my concerns, that does not make her a reliable source. MAYBE she thinks that only by magnifying or manufacturing information can she arouse others to her concerns?
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    Today's update 10/28/19:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/u...ma-county.html

    California Fire Updates: Getty Fire Forces Evacuations in West Los Angeles as Kincade Fire Burns
    An evacuation order still stands for 180,000 residents of Sonoma County, while part of Napa County is under an evacuation warning.
    By Thomas Fuller


    "RIGHT NOW A sprawling wildfire in Sonoma County, north of San Francisco, now covers 54,298 acres and is just 5 percent contained, and a new fire has prompted evacuations in West Los Angeles.Evacuations in West Los Angeles jam a major freeway.
    A brush fire that broke out early Monday morning on the western side of Los Angeles quickly consumed 500 acres, created gridlock on the 405, the nation’s busiest highway, and resulted in mandatory evacuations.

    The fire, known as the Getty Fire, forced officials to seal off main interchanges of the 405 by mid-morning. Offramps through the Sepulveda Pass, near where the fire started, were closed.

    The growing blaze caused the Los Angeles Unified School District, Santa Monica-Malibu Unified School District, and many private schools to close before classes were to begin.

    “This is a fire that quickly spread,” said Mayor Eric M. Garcetti of Los Angeles at a news conference shortly after 7 a.m. local time. “It is now over 500 acres, but we luckily had a lot of amazing heroes that were in our fire stations who rolled out immediately. We have over 500 firefighters that are on the line right now, in some of the most challenging topography of Los Angeles.”

    He said at least five homes had been lost on Tigertail Rd., which is just west of the 405 freeway. Ralph M. Terrazas, the chief of the Los Angeles Fire Department, said he expected that number to rise.

    The Getty fire, which was reported to emergency responders at 1:34 a.m. in a 911 call, prompted an emergency declaration from Mr. Garcetti. Neighborhoods covered by mandatory evacuation orders include Brentwood, Mountaingate and West Los Angeles. In all, more than 10,000 residential and commercial structures are in the evacuation zones.Among the evacuees is the Los Angeles Lakers forward LeBron James. “Had to emergency evacuate my house and I’ve been driving around with my family trying to get rooms,” he said in a Twitter message.

    Capt. Erik Scott, a spokesman for the Los Angeles Fire Department, said the Getty Center, a billion-dollar complex in Los Angeles that houses an art museum with works by Rembrandt, van Gogh, Monet and Degas, was not immediately threatened by the blaze.Fast-growing Kincade fire is nearly twice the size of San Francisco.
    The Kincade fire in the heart of Sonoma County, north of San Francisco, has doubled in size in 24 hours and was only 5 percent contained on Monday morning. The fire has burned an area nearly twice the size of the city of San Francisco, which covers 47 square miles — and is still growing.

    Nearly 100 buildings have been destroyed by the fire, and 16 more damaged, according to Cal Fire, the state firefighting agency. Some 3,400 firefighters were battling the blaze as of Sunday night, public safety officials said.

    Cal Fire said firefighters were hoping for a brief reprieve on Monday from the high winds that have acted as a dangerous accelerant. But more high winds are in the forecast for Tuesday night into Wednesday.

    The fire threatens 80,000 buildings across an expanding evacuation zone, which includes a warning, but not an order, for part of neighboring Napa County.Power company braces 500,000 customers for next shutdown.
    Pacific Gas and Electric officials said the power company notified 500,000 customers in Northern California on Sunday that they might have their power shut off on Tuesday, with much of the same footprint affected as this weekend’s shut-offs.

    Some customers might not have their power restored before the next shut-off, said Andy Vesey, the chief executive of PG&E, who said during a news conference Sunday night that public safety was paramount.

    “We look for the highest risk zones where we have the potential for catastrophic wildfire,” Mr. Vesey said. “We will not roll the dice when it comes to public safety.”

    Those potential shut-offs, which could affect 32 counties throughout the state, were announced within hours of the power cuts on Sunday that affected nearly 3 million people, the largest fire-prevention blackouts in California history.

    The new round would be the fourth time this month that the company has intentionally turned off electricity to large numbers of customers, some of whom had power for only a few hours between earlier blackouts.

    PG&E’s policy of pre-emptively cutting power in the hope of preventing its lines and equipment from causing fires — as has happened several times in recent years — has angered customers, regulators and politicians. Leaders in the Democratic-controlled State Senate have organized a panel to review PG&E’s actions.

    Mr. Vesey said he had spoken to customers whose power had been shut off at a community resource center set up by the utility and acknowledged their discontent.

    “You’re right — what we do is not popular,” Mr. Vesey said during a news conference on Sunday night. “I will not tell you that people congratulated us. People are angry.”

    (More at the link.)
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    There is no lack of strange anomalies on these latest fires in Cal. Here are a few interesting links on the fires starting.

    Wow....!!!
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/yTI1P...andomize=false


    MASSIVE EXPLOSION Strikes N. CA 50 miles wide!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm74ujfWhJU

    More footage here...
    3 MORE LA Area FiresTotal of 7 / 24hrs Oct 24, 2019
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTO...QSIssVTQ/video

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    More from the narrator of that video here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTO...ssVTQ/featured
    He's keeping a close eye on the anomalies on that channel entitled Logic Before Authority.
    I think this is the same guy: https://tatoott1009.com/ ...who used to track HAARP signals primarily, and has been in close contact with Dutchsinse.
    (Sounds like the same voice.)
    He also has this youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Tatoott...oaded/featured
    ...where he's keeping track of earthquakes among other things.
    Looks like youtube has been "disappearing" a lot of his subscribers.
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    MASSIVE EXPLOSION Strikes N. CA 50 miles wide!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm74ujfWhJU
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    Quote Posted by James Newell (here)
    MASSIVE EXPLOSION Strikes N. CA 50 miles wide!
    I'd like to better understand what we're being shown here. For instance:
    • How speeded up is this?
    • What's the time lapse between images?
    • What program is he using to generate the images?
    • Can this be examined retrospectively/historically?
    • If so, what's the link?
    An 'explosion' is something that happens in seconds. Something unusual may be happening, for sure, but there's almost certainly some hyperbole here. All clarifications are more than welcome.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    An 'explosion' is something that happens in seconds. Something unusual may be happening, for sure, but there's almost certainly some hyperbole here. All clarifications are more than welcome.
    An uptick seems to happen in a couple of minutes here


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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    An 'explosion' is something that happens in seconds. Something unusual may be happening, for sure, but there's almost certainly some hyperbole here. All clarifications are more than welcome.
    An uptick seems to happen in a couple of minutes here

    Yes, many thanks! Looking at the moving lights, which will be vehicle headlights, you have to slow it down to 0.25 speed to see it as it probably really was.

    But even then, something definitely happens very quickly. The 'explosion' — or whatever it was — can be seen starting at 0:43. But do play it slowly to see the likely actual speed.
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    The power being shut off is making the fire response teams slow to arrive, and causing havoc for those that need to know what is going on. It's a mess... i have been without power off and on for weeks, and just got it back on this afternoon, only to lose it again sometime before tomorrow, and we are also having fires "Appear" out of nowhere near my house. NONE of this is normal and according to PG&E this is going to be happening for the next 10 years. Many of the wifi providers are down with the loss of power as well, causing the cell towers to not function properly either, so many calls aren't going through. It's a mess.

    While all of this is going on, a whole bunch of new laws are being signed into effect when no one is able to watch the news to see it happening. Welcome to the nightmare that is California. They're deliberately trying to drive people out of the area. Not exactly sure why but there is a lot of speculation going around. None of it is good.

    I just want to note that we had a fire in our area that took off yesterday and I couldn't help but note it started near low income housing and an elderly community. Seems many of these are taking out mobile home parks, and the less able to manage situations. The rest are being taken out financially, by a loss of revenue and their products become waste. They're hitting everyone on a multi front. Making sure if the fires don't get you, the loss of work, and power does. Its a no win situation with many planning to leave California as a result. (Or they're threatening to).. The recovery from this thus far is going to be insane, if this lasts for ten years, there won't be a California...

    This has to be bigger than just a few wildfires. Just saying, I don't buy it.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    An 'explosion' is something that happens in seconds. Something unusual may be happening, for sure, but there's almost certainly some hyperbole here. All clarifications are more than welcome.
    An uptick seems to happen in a couple of minutes here

    Yes, many thanks! Looking at the moving lights, which will be vehicle headlights, you have to slow it down to 0.25 speed to see it as it probably really was.

    But even then, something definitely happens very quickly. The 'explosion' — or whatever it was — can be seen starting at 0:43. But do play it slowly to see the likely actual speed.
    Which raises a question, among many others, about the frequent use of the word "explode" or "explosion" in many of these posts. The fires are said to explode. But really? I have to believe that the videos we are shown taken by radar or other technology are delayed or time contracted. That is, what we see as a second or two, is in fact much longer. Such that there is not an explosion, in the sense of a sudden event, but rather a process that in the time delayed or contracted images appear to be sudden, or explosive, when they are not.

    That is not to say these are anything but very serious and dangerous fires, they clearly are; but I wonder about whether there are indeed explosions.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    you have to slow it down to 0.25 speed to see it as it probably really was. But even then, something definitely happens very quickly. The 'explosion' — or whatever it was ...
    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    An uptick seems to happen in a couple of minutes here
    Here’s 17 seconds of the explosion.

    To slow it down, click the settings dial
    at the bottom, right of the video
    and change the playback speed to .25



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