The 'Moon Wave' - what is it?

[Agarthian]

Hi all, I watched a very recent Michael Tellinger presentation, (with the bold ambitious title of "The Ancient Secret of Levitation and Antigravity Has Finally Been Solved") and in it he presents something which I hadn't heard of before, called the 'Moon Wave' as first documented by a YouTube user called Crrow777

https://youtu.be/cCkZLmhl3-I

Some of you may know I dabble in filmmaking and am quite proficient in the current editing tools, and technologies. The explanations I have found so far, about varying frame rates between recording and editing, for example, do not account for what I see in these videos. But I have also not found anything other than Crrow777's material that documents ist, making me wonder if indeed it is technical related.

Any one else seen this and has it been properly debunked? Or is this something new and worth keeping an eye on?

Cheers

[Foxie Loxie]

Interesting! Of course, the people who would know about this couldn't say anything!

[Hervé]

See the discussion in this thread: Taj & Sarah Adams talk to Crrow777 about the moon, space and the nature of reality

[Agarthian]

Thank you Herve, feels like it's still inconclusive. Though the idea that space is water seems preposterous. I'm surprised that Michael goes that far in his presentation. Is there water in space? Conceivably. Is all space a giant aquarium? Uh, no. Lost me there...

But I don't think Crrow777 would be so dumb as to fake this, and there seem to be others who have documented it as well, even at the same times. Maybe just another one to file in that 'not sure what this is, but clearly we don't know much about the multiverse, so it may be possible' category.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Agarthian (here)
Any one else seen this and has it been properly debunked? Or is this something new and worth keeping an eye on?

Cheers

In my personal opinion,

1. Yes, and
2. No.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Agarthian (here)
Though the idea that space is water seems preposterous.

I'd suggest that it doesn't 'seem' preposterous... it truly is!

There was a video on the other thread (see this post) that showed how it could be faked. Alas, it's been taken down (the account was terminated).

That doesn't prove that Crrow777 faked it. But it does offer a more likely hypothesis than an inexplicable phenomenon such as the one he claims which has never been seen ever by any of the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers all over the world, all with extremely good telescopes and cameras and who are paid by and beholden to nobody.

Possibly to crown it all, Crrow777 is a Flat Earther. It's easy to find the links: just search for [Crrow777 + "flat earth"]. That offers a measure of his level of knowledge of science and astronomy, and his ability to apply logic. If he were a prosecutor in court, the jury might laugh him out of it.

[Bob]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Agarthian (here)
Any one else seen this and has it been properly debunked? Or is this something new and worth keeping an eye on?

Cheers

In my personal opinion,

1. Yes, and
2. No.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1134503

Bill's post I agree with 100% would not waste my time with someone saying "space is water"..

[Nick Matkin]

They look to me like the distortion of the moon (or sun) you might expect to see through the residual heat and/or moisture of a dispersed vapour trail.

[Sunny-side-up]

I'm not a supporter of Michael Tellinger or all his views (definitely not his ones on the FE) but some are interesting, the stone rings in Africa as an example.

I believe that Crrow777 is not forging the 'Moon Wave' and it's real.

Maybe we think of the term Water as we know it here on Earth?
Water is: Liquid (semi solid), Ice (solid) Steam as in vapor and plasma, it can be very hot or very cold and has memory, it always turns back in to one or the other depending on the conditions.

Is space water? well obviously not liquid water as on Planet Earth or in the swimming pools that NASA dose many of it's fakes in, but remember that there are at least 16 or is it 18 different phases of water, just maybe open space is in some way a phase we don't know or understand yet.

It's not liquid drinking water for sure.

[Sunny-side-up]

Just adding
I don't think the 'Moon Wave' is anything to do with water.
When I was around 17-18 I observed something if not actually the 'Moon Wave' on a good telescope I had.
If I remember correctly it moved from top right to bottom left, it was crisp and not fuzzy.

[Agarthian]

AH, he's a flat earther.. well, that's disappointing. I thought maybe this was going to be something new and cool to check into. One could say flat earthers are the most dangerous of 'conspiracy' theorists, because they unfortunately also have the effect of helping to discredit all those good thinkers and researchers who DO point out real conspiracies, of which there are many... One of the first questions I asked myself was why John Lenard hadn't seen this or reported it. Out of all moon telescope filmers, he's one of the best and never so much as mentioned it EVER.

[meat suit]

I remember when this first came up a few years ago..
It seems to me its some kind of optical effect , like an aeroplane vapor trail with its warmer air passing thru the picture creating that ripple effect.

[Nick Matkin]

Posted by meat suit (here)
I remember when this first came up a few years ago..
It seems to me its some kind of optical effect , like an aeroplane vapor trail with its warmer air passing thru the picture creating that ripple effect.

Indeed. That seems the most satisfactory explanation given by photographers and astronomers. But hey, why bother with the simple obvious explanation when you can stoke up space water or moon-holagram nonsense.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
I observed something if not actually the 'Moon Wave' on a good telescope I had.

Yes. Here are two telescopes for amateur astronomers. The first costs $100 (discounted from $150). The second costs $2,600 (discounted from $3,000).

Imagine this dialog. (Think Crocodile Dundee. )

~~~

"This is a telescope."



"No, THIS is a telescope."

[Sunny-side-up]

When you look at the 'Luna wave' on the vid you can see/tell it's not just related directly to the Moon.
You can see it's an effect of the atmosphere or an effect between Earth and the Moon.

When I first read the post about the young girl who found/observed 'Plasma tubes' around the earth I thought of the Moon wave.
Which would mean the Plasma Tube was not Geo stationary to the earth and could be seen passing between the observer and a distant object such as the Moon.

Trying to find that post/info of the girls Earth plasma tube.

[Sunny-side-up]

Oh BTW my scope was something like this:

A Dobsonian reflector.

Dark Star 8 inch Dobsonian reflector telescope 50 inch tube used condition

That's going for £200
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dark-Star....c100005.m1851

[Sunny-side-up]

Just adding possable info:
Avalon Post

he discovery by an undergraduate student of tubes of plasma drifting above Earth has made headlines in the past few days. Many people have asked how the discovery was made and, in particular, how an undergraduate student was able to do it.

The answer is a combination of an amazing new telescope, a very smart student and an unexpected fusion of two areas of science.

https://theconversation.com/how-an-u...-the-sky-42810

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ymZEOihlIdU

Yes she used a radio telescope.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...h+Plasma+Tubes

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=njCK9wk6A9Y

[Agarthian]

Amazing how sold Michael Tellinger is on this! Really spoils the rest of his talk for me now LOL

[Mari]

Posted by Agarthian (here)
Hi all, I watched a very recent Michael Tellinger presentation, (with the bold ambitious title of "The Ancient Secret of Levitation and Antigravity Has Finally Been Solved") and in it he presents something which I hadn't heard of before, called the 'Moon Wave' as first documented by a YouTube user called Crrow777

https://youtu.be/cCkZLmhl3-I

Some of you may know I dabble in filmmaking and am quite proficient in the current editing tools, and technologies. The explanations I have found so far, about varying frame rates between recording and editing, for example, do not account for what I see in these videos. But I have also not found anything other than Crrow777's material that documents ist, making me wonder if indeed it is technical related.

Any one else seen this and has it been properly debunked? Or is this something new and worth keeping an eye on?

Cheers

Hi, I went to Michael’s presentation in Hammersmith, London yesterday & watched the short clip of the ‘moon wave’ with some fascination, but tempered with healthy scepticism. I have not heard or seen of this before but it didn’t really surprise me, given that there are a lot of anomalies that surround this ‘satellite’ of ours.
He didn’t go into much detail about this particular glitch but hinted (as far as I can recall – given that there was so much other info to take on board that Michael was presenting) either that maybe it was a ‘refreshing of a hologam’ or it had something to do with the latest theory that the universe is teeming with water.
My mind is still reeling from the subjects presented yesterday & I wonder if you, or anyone else who was at that talk could throw a little light on what Michael’s take on it was? I think, though, that he was leaving it pretty wide open.....

[Bill Ryan]

Many folks may not know that Michael Tellinger is also a Flat Earther.

Why I Don't Talk About Flat Earth
(The reason is because he gets too much ridicule. That's what the video's about.)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bZiqfH7a_OI