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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

    Linux Mint and other distributions are based on Debian Package Management System, which runs systemd.
    Developers of systemd are complete idiot, shills under corporate paycheck such as Red Hat.
    Genuine Linux distribution such as Devuan does not run systemd.

    To end users who choose Linux over Windows, it is probably irrelevant issue.
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    Linux Mint and other distributions are based on Debian Package Management System, which runs systemd.
    Developers of systemd are complete idiot, shills under corporate paycheck such as Red Hat.
    Genuine Linux distribution such as Devuan does not run systemd.

    To end users who choose Linux over Windows, it is probably irrelevant issue.
    Systemd ... bringing Windows-like monolithic feature creep and bugginess to Linux.
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    Not within my understanding--Whatever works and it does beautifully.
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    Not within my understanding--Whatever works and it does beautifully.
    Well, yes, ... I am cursed for having watched the evolution of Systemd, and its many ancestors going back many decades, and for knowing the internals and evolution of the source behind the software.

    On the surface, yes, Systemd variants of Linux dominate nowadays. Two of the three Linux systems that I administer on a daily basis run Systemd variants of Linux ... because it's there and most versions of Linux run it.

    But the system that I count most on working, that "takes a licking and keeps on ticking" (as John Cameron Swayze said in Timex watch ads, long ago) ... that system does not have Systemd, and won't have it.
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    We live in a world where if one thing does not get you another thing will.
    Just a question of minimizing risk

    For the majority of users Linux Mint does all that is required hassle free.
    No need for additional expensive software--Anti Virus--system cleaner--and word processor that you dont own but have to keep paying for. .

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    We live in a world where if one thing does not get you another thing will.
    Just a question of minimizing risk

    For the majority of users Linux Mint does all that is required hassle free.
    No need for additional expensive software--Anti Virus--system cleaner--and word processor that you dont own but have to keep paying for. .

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    Yes - I quite agree.

    My anti-Systemd rant was not good advice for those reading this thread.

    I let my inner-elitist-geek get away with me .
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    We live in a world where if one thing does not get you another thing will.
    Just a question of minimizing risk

    For the majority of users Linux Mint does all that is required hassle free.
    No need for additional expensive software--Anti Virus--system cleaner--and word processor that you dont own but have to keep paying for. .

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    Yes - I quite agree.

    My anti-Systemd rant was not good advice for those reading this thread.

    I let my inner-elitist-geek get away with me .
    Believe me you are welcome Paul.
    Lets face it you keep Avalon running regardless of all the challenges.

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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

    I ditched microsoft completely a few years back after trying a dual boot. For the dual boot I reduced the size of the space MS occupied on the hard drive & then added Ubuntu.

    It got to the point where my laptop just wouldn't function properly with windows because it is just too big an operating system, and with where things have gone since with W10 there is no way I would go back to windows.

    It's not hard adapting to one of the free operating systems, I'm not a geek & you don't need to be, just don't install one of the experimental systems that are for geeks, get one with long term support, like ubuntu 18 or linux mint.

    The one thing I would suggest that hasn't been mentioned is to swap your hard drive for a new one, if it's a laptop try a solid state one for extra robustness, there are plenty of youtube tutorials on this & it's very straight forward, you can fit any 2.5" hard drive in a laptop & 3.5" in a PC, the make & size (GB) are down to preference & need as far as I can tell, having gone through quite a few.

    I have got a new 2.5" SSD & linux mint on a usb stick in drawer for when my current OS becomes obsolete or some other problem crops up.

    Keeping the old hard drives as they are allows me to keep all my photos, documents & vids & I can put old hard drives in a thing called an "external enclosure" (basically a box with sockets ) & access any I need whenever I want.
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    Thanks Spiral, your practical advice appreciated.
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    full time mint for about 2 months and never looking back still learning...brought 250GB SSD when it on sales and have dual boot with Manjaro KDE+Kubuntu while Windows on other SSD only for gaming.

    for windows users who want to jump to Linux encourage use Ubuntu Based like Mint for user-friendly, Ubuntu have great community. try it on virtual machine like virtual box get familiar with it. tried Linux few years ago i really hate Linux for commands much prefer windows installation of software but right now once into Linux don't want to go back to Microsoft world.

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    Thanks apokalypse.
    Maybe I should look at a ssd drive for thelaptop.
    I have a tower for the DAW I use and that has one.

    It cant be that difficult to put in a laptop.
    However the Mint is working perfectly in my basic Lenovo Ideapad.

    I got the Tower built by Ginger in Uk
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    I left Windows some years back and went to UBUNTU --That was good experience.
    Pathwalker suggested Linux Mint and I found, for me, that this was a better system.
    I could go on praising Mint but the bottom line is try it and see if it works for you.

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    Quote Posted by Hughe (here)
    Linux Mint and other distributions are based on Debian Package Management System, which runs systemd.
    Developers of systemd are complete idiot, shills under corporate paycheck such as Red Hat.
    Genuine Linux distribution such as Devuan does not run systemd.

    To end users who choose Linux over Windows, it is probably irrelevant issue.
    Looks like Devuan is a recent fork off Debian. If it comes out in a Cinnamon flavor, I might try it. Otherwise, I'll stick with Debian Cinnamon.

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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

    for windows who want to jump to linux always use Ubuntu based and Mint is most popular one because of GUI-friendly-stable unlike Arch based which i'm using right now still trying to figuring out stuff.

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    for windows who want to jump to linux always use Ubuntu based and Mint is most popular one because of GUI-friendly-stable unlike Arch based which i'm using right now still trying to figuring out stuff.
    I tried Arch and found it to be unstable; last straw was when it started messing up files when I transferred them to USB stick. Could have been a bad stick but it first started doing it on Arch so I blamed Arch :-) But I didn't see any real advantage over Mint and I could never get the Places menu in Cinnamon configured the same way it comes on Mint and Debian.

    But I appreciate the large community and amount of AUR programs available, almost as much as Debian-based OSes.

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    Linux vs. Windows | The Fundamental Differences

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    Linux vs. Windows | The Fundamental Differences
    That's a good video - thanks.

    Those who prefer to read, or skim, can see the full text of his comments. Just click on the Youtube link.
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    Hi Paul
    Advice please.
    Is it also possible to change to Linux from a MAC laptop.
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    Hi Paul
    Advice please.
    Is it also possible to change to Linux from a MAC laptop.
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    I presume so, yes.

    The opposite, running MacOS on non-Apple hardware, is a pain in the butt, or worse.

    Apple makes its money selling hardware, so they don't get in the way of people using Apple hardware for unconventional purposes, such as running Linux, but they do get in the way, deliberately and in various ways, of running MacOS on cheaper PC hardware.

    Try a google search for "running linux on a mac" to see some articles that consider this in more detail.

    I've not personally done this nor studied this, so I am not a wealth of additional detail.
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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

    A question to an expert.


    Is there a very basic version of Linux, perhaps a very old version, that is like MSDOS and console cammand driven, that I can teach myself a few basics with ?
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