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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

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    A question to an expert.


    Is there a very basic version of Linux, perhaps a very old version, that is like MSDOS and console cammand driven, that I can teach myself a few basics with ?
    There are some very small Linux distributions, yes. Some of them are described here: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/linux-distro-space/

    If you need Linux to work on a small system, with say a few hundred MByte of disk and one or two hundred MByte of RAM, then these distributions might be appropriate.

    Usually the best way to "try it out" is to get a Linux distribution that loads directly into RAM from the installation CD (or USB stick), without putting anything permanently on your hard drive. These are called "Live" distributions; most major distributions can be installed either way, "Live" or permanently onto your disk drive. Of course, when you power down a "Live" distribution, all is lost (which can be a good idea, if you don't want your mistakes to last.)

    On almost any Linux distribution, whether installed live or permanently, if you want to play around at a "DOS-like" prompt, open up a terminal window in that system, which will give you a shell prompt (analogous to the CMD prompt in DOS) and you can start typing classic Unix/Linux commands.

    Here's what looks to me to be a pretty good list of Linux distributions to consider for such uses: http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/8...ew-linux-users

    Here's a list from distrowatch.com (the most complete site for finding the details of Linux distributions) of all Linux systems that can do a "Live Desktop" installation: https://distrowatch.com/search.php?c...+Medium#simple
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    Paul, your input is really appreciated.
    Im just an enthusiastic user--
    Ive never had to use the command prompt with Mint, though several tines with early UBUNTU under expert guidance.
    Any average user will find all that comes, or is available free with the version of mint in the first post, is more than sufficient.

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    Ive never had to use the command prompt with Mint,
    For most modern day users, not having to use the command prompt is like not having to open the bonnet and short some wires and turn a crank to start the engine ... a good thing not to have to do.

    For those of us who grew up designing and assembling Model T cars and its myriad competitors of the time from hand forged metal parts, not being able to get to a command prompt would be like driving a car with the bonnet welded shut, a dreadful limitation.
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    Ive never had to use the command prompt with Mint,
    For most modern day users, not having to use the command prompt is like not having to open the bonnet and short some wires and turn a crank to start the engine ... a good thing not to have to do.

    For those of us who grew up designing and assembling Model T cars and its myriad competitors of the time from hand forged metal parts, not being able to get to a command prompt would be like driving a car with the bonnet welded shut, a dreadful limitation.
    Gone are the days the armature mechanic could fix things, I remember it well.
    However Linux Mint gives both--The expert can fiddle to his /her hearts content with the command prompt.
    Me, I dont have to open the bonnet but If I did there is expert advice via Linux forums.
    I really appreciate all the posts on this thread.

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    You can basically download any Live-Distro with a graphical user interface and use the Terminal program to experiment and learn commands for any action.
    If you want to run that distro on old hardware, you could try Damn Small Linux.
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    I was glad to know the Linux command prompt when I started using a Mac. The GUI is geared towards children, but if you're familiar with Unix directory structure and commands, you can control IT instead of being controlled BY it.

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    10 Reasons why Linux is Better Than MacOS or Windows

    There are many reasons to like Windows, MacOS or Linux, but which OS offers more potential for the user in the long run? Here’s 10 reasons why Linux is better than MacOS or Windows.

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    Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

    The second release in the Linux Mint 19.x series will be named “Tessa”.

    Linux Mint 19.1 is estimated to be released around November/December 2018 and will be supported until 2023.

    Linux Mint 19 users will have the ability to upgrade. This upgrade will be both easy and safe and it will be performed via the Update Manager.



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    These upgrades are free
    ... and these updates happen when, and if, you ask for them, not when some automated Microsoft program decides to download them (perhaps over an expensive bandwidth limited data plan) and install them (perhaps when you needed to be using the computer for something critical, such as performing surgery under anesthesia or giving a presentation to a large audience.)
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    Yes its your OS, your choice.
    What I love about Linux is the logical way files are stored--so easy to find documents--music--videos--downloading from u tube is via a free extension.

    Moving to Linux is a no brainer.
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    --downloading from u tube is via a free extension.

    Tell me more about that. I might have to set up a mint machine just for youtube grabbing.


    I have firefox on Windows but I can't get any of the so called youtube downloaders to do anything for me. The one I used to use, that worked perfectly for most streams from most sites, including audio, won't work with the newer windows/firefox versions.


    I found an online service called genyoutube that works, but it tries to spam me and load dodgy web pages.
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    Hi Norman
    It comes with Yahoo Mozilla Firefox ( Mint edition) as an extension to that.
    You probably have to get another addition to the down loader to get all variety of files.
    I did that it works fine
    There is the usual "We are The Oath" ---you need to say yes to that
    Whats new!!!!

    Obviously Im sold on Mint---loads of free soft ware if your of the mind to get that.
    The Libre Office is great--free but you can donate which I did.

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    What's extention called Chris. It might even work in my windows version.
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    Hi Norman
    Downloads/net.downloadhelper.coapp-1.2.4-1_amd64.deb

    Now thats for linux system probably.
    the downloader worked as it was but then some u tube files required this extension--the process then was more or less automatic--Ijust ticked the boxes so to speak.
    I have window10 on a tower PC for my Presonus studio one DAW
    just all sorts of challenges getting files downloade--I just dont use Windows now for anything other than recording our music through the DAW even then it misplaces my files.

    If you have a spare PC laptop I would try Mint--I dont think having it alongside windows in the same machine is a good idea, but you could try it out that way without actually installing.
    I downloaded from the Linux site and put it on a usb stick--so you can temporally operate it from that or put in on a DVD

    Really worth a try Norman--so hassle free compared to Window

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    Yea, it must be something different on Linux because I tried Downloadhelper on my system and it was useless.


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    Your welcome Norman
    I download a lot from u tube in order to watch it in my own time--virtually a daily occurrence.

    Its faster to download than to watch online.
    Im fortunate the deal with Taltalk is just £20 a month in UK and the internet comes with that at no additional cost--so no limit to the time on line.
    Im sorry for people who have to pay according to their time on line and GB download.

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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

    I downloaded Mint a couple of weeks ago.


    I just haven't decided what to do about it yet. I've got plenty of old computers here to play with. I downloaded a version of Ubuntu Studio a couple of years ago too, I never did anything with that either, but it's still here somewhere, on one of my many hard drives.


    That's a point ! . . . can I still access NTFS or Fat32 external hard drives from Linux ? I think not.
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    I downloaded Mint a couple of weeks ago.


    I just haven't decided what to do about it yet. I've got plenty of old computers here to play with. I downloaded a version of Ubuntu Studio a couple of years ago too, I never did anything with that either, but it's still here somewhere, on one of my many hard drives.


    That's a point ! . . . can I still access NTFS or Fat32 external hard drives from Linux ? I think not.
    Within Linux there is a facility --software-- to run Windows programs--I have never used it so I cant say how effective it is.
    Maybe some one else could inform us regarding your question.
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