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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

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    ok guys, I like really mint running of the usb stick, so persued with the wipe of windows 10 and installed mint on the pc.
    now it wont boot from the pc, telling me 'no boot device'.. I booted of the usb again and reinstalled a few times.. same thing.
    in bios the boot section is whitend out and the arrows wont let me change the boot order... the other bios sections are changable but not the boot section..
    any ideas? do I need to reinstall bios? if so, how does that work?
    Sorry you are having a challenge.
    Im not an expert but it seems the boot order that you had to change to install needs to go back to starting from hard drive.
    If there is a default section in the bios I would click that.
    Most laptops if the USB is the priority but not available cause you removed the stick will go to the next boot option.

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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

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    Quote Posted by meat suit (here)
    ok guys, I like really mint running of the usb stick, so persued with the wipe of windows 10 and installed mint on the pc.
    now it wont boot from the pc, telling me 'no boot device'.. I booted of the usb again and reinstalled a few times.. same thing.
    in bios the boot section is whitend out and the arrows wont let me change the boot order... the other bios sections are changable but not the boot section..
    any ideas? do I need to reinstall bios? if so, how does that work?
    Sorry you are having a challenge.
    Im not an expert but it seems the boot order that you had to change to install needs to go back to starting from hard drive.
    If there is a default section in the bios I would click that.
    Most laptops if the USB is the priority but not available cause you removed the stick will go to the next boot option.

    Chris
    thanks Chris,
    restored bios to default and done another couple of installs.. but still wont boot...

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    A couple of other things that come to mind.
    When you finish installing ,if my memory serves me correctly, i tells you take out the install medium--thats before the lap top turns off.
    Another possibility is that the ISO you downloaded was faulty--incomplete.
    The USB should have been reformatted in the process of intstalling the ISO any residue of olfd files would get in the way.
    Because its running properly on the stick it really should be ok.
    There really should not be this hassle.
    Its always been effortless the few times I have done it.

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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

    @meat suit

    Do you intend to run Linux and Windows 10 in one hard drive?
    To do this, you create two partions. One for Windows 10, the other for Linux.
    Install Windows 10 on the 1st partition that will be recognized as C drive.
    Install Linux on the 2nd partition.
    Install a boot loader that supports Linux and Windows 10, i.e GRUB.
    After GRUB installtion, rebooting the computer will boot in Linux system.
    Then modify GRUB configuration file to load Windows 10 on the boot menu.
    When you rebooting the computer, GRUB will show a menu that has Linux, Windows 10 in the menu list.
    I will post my GRUB configuration file by tomorrow.
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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

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    @meat suit

    Do you intend to run Linux and Windows 10 in one hard drive?
    To do this, you create two partions. One for Windows 10, the other for Linux.
    Install Windows 10 on the 1st partition that will be recognized as C drive.
    Install Linux on the 2nd partition.
    Install a boot loader that supports Linux and Windows 10, i.e GRUB.
    After GRUB installtion, rebooting the computer will boot in Linux system.
    Then modify GRUB configuration file to load Windows 10 on the boot menu.
    When you rebooting the computer, GRUB will show a menu that has Linux, Windows 10 in the menu list.
    I will post my GRUB configuration file by tomorrow.
    thanks Hughe, just linux, got rid of windows...

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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

    I recently installed Linux Cinnamon on an old Asus laptop. My biggest problem was getting the laptop to boot from USB. (Hold down Esc then power on worked).


    The graphics appear to be very similar to Windows. Should be easy to adapt. A little concerned that Malwarebytes does not run on Linux.

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    I recently installed Linux Cinnamon on an old Asus laptop. My biggest problem was getting the laptop to boot from USB. (Hold down Esc then power on worked).


    The graphics appear to be very similar to Windows. Should be easy to adapt. A little concerned that Malwarebytes does not run on Linux.
    Hi Ron go into software manager and type malware and you will find software you can download for free
    if you type virus other software available.

    In truth Linux is not subject to hackers virus spreaders etc--not enough people use linux yet to attract thheir attention.
    Im surprised though that people have any challenges installing Linux Mint
    Depends on the laptop probably.
    Ive used Acer and of course now LENOVO for second time and never a challenge --I just down loaded put the ISO on a disc or USB set the laptop boot priority and that was that--I did not have to go back and change boot priority back--it just booted after instal troublr free..
    Im not an expert just an ordinary user
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    Default Re: Linux: an alternative to Windows 10

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    ok guys, I like really mint running of the usb stick, so persued with the wipe of windows 10 and installed mint on the pc.
    now it wont boot from the pc, telling me 'no boot device'.. I booted of the usb again and reinstalled a few times.. same thing.
    in bios the boot section is whitend out and the arrows wont let me change the boot order... the other bios sections are changable but not the boot section..
    any ideas? do I need to reinstall bios? if so, how does that work?
    Sorry you are having a challenge.
    Im not an expert but it seems the boot order that you had to change to install needs to go back to starting from hard drive.
    If there is a default section in the bios I would click that.
    Most laptops if the USB is the priority but not available cause you removed the stick will go to the next boot option.

    Chris
    thanks Chris,
    restored bios to default and done another couple of installs.. but still wont boot...
    Greetings guys.

    You probably have problems with type/format of disk, or MBR section.
    The install process is formatting the disk before writing the Mint OS into it. It must be correct disk format for Mint

    It is also possible that since you erased the Windows partition from the disk,the disk has no MBR section (section at address 0, telling where is the OS located on the disk). So you need to use the GRUB disk formatting application and initiating using the Mint USB stick first.
    Here is a relevant article
    http://linuxbsdos.com/2014/07/02/man...x-mint-17-kde/

    Hope this helps.

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    Thanks PathWalker--as said I never had a challenge--Linux Mint install went without me having to worry about formatting--the installation ISO did it all.

    You input greatly appreciated

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    i'm full time Linux Users full time right now and love every minutes of it...brought 250GB m2 stick running 2-3 linux on Virtual Machine. thinking reorganise PC, thought of having 500GB running 2-3 Linux(1 main manjaro kde-Backup(ubuntu based)-Testing/secondary) which mostly hosting virtual machine..250GB hard drive for WIndows specifically playing games. i have legit windows 10 but hated it so going back to windows 7.

    On Virtual Machine gonna run few linux for different reasons.. Cinnanon favour linux for office processing stuff/work matters- Manjaro KDE for surfing-Linux Mint for privacy matters like bankings/ebay/-Backup Linux OS.

    i always have back OS, few days ago for some reason unable to run manjaro and lazy fixing it so i run Backup OS.
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    Arch (Majaro's based on it) is really for geeks, in my opinion. Geeks don't mind fixing their OS -- they probably hope it will break so they'll have the opportunity!

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    Arch (Majaro's based on it) is really for geeks, in my opinion. Geeks don't mind fixing their OS -- they probably hope it will break so they'll have the opportunity!
    yes, very true...gone back to Ubuntu based -KDE Neon for daily usage of web surfing, having all kind of problem on Vmware workstation especially all of sudden drop out PIA VPN. Arco Linu(arch based) for work/word processing purpose. thought of Install Mint aswell for privacy usage...

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    The great things about Linux is that it is all things to all people.
    The geek can contribute towards its on going development and fix the more complex OS

    Me, Im an average user and therefore the Mint version suits me fine--reliable and good free software more than enough to meet my needs.

    Thanks for all the input on this thread.

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    Running Windows Programs on Linux
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    I have never done this but its good to know its possible
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    Running Windows software on Linux using Wine, PlayOnLinux, Winetricks and CrossOver, and demonstrated on the distros Zorin OS and Linux Mint. The Wine website is at: https://www.winehq.org/ The PlayOnLinux website is at: https://www.playonlinux.com/en/ The Winetricks website is at: https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks

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    thanks Hughe, just linux, got rid of windows...
    Any luck yet?

    Windows switched from a BIOS system to UEFI, around Windows 8 I think, which is a total pain in the butt, and it's like that on purpose. Windows doesn't want you trying to install a different OS, so they created the UEFI system to give you hell.

    I've installed Linux over top of Windows 8 and Windows 10 systems, but I had to totally delete all of the existing partitions first, including the boot partition. I had to delete everything. You can do this during the Linux install process when it asks you which partition you want to install into, or if you want to create new partitions, etc. Just select the existing Windows partitions and delete all of them.

    After you do that, if you try to do a clean install of Linux over the whole disk, it should work... provided there aren't any other unexpected hiccups you have to work around.

    I also used a CD instead of USB. I've had bad luck with installing from USB. CD drives are older tech and seem to be more reliable, at least in my experience.


    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    A little concerned that Malwarebytes does not run on Linux.
    Like Greybeard said, it's probably not necessary. I've never had a problem with malware or viruses on Linux. I just have "uBlock" installed on Firefox to block unnecessary scripts, etc. Imo the whole virus/anti-virus industry is just a racket to take your money, and Windows facilitates it by having a crappy product prone to abuse.


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    You probably have problems with type/format of disk, or MBR section.
    The install process is formatting the disk before writing the Mint OS into it. It must be correct disk format for Mint

    It is also possible that since you erased the Windows partition from the disk,the disk has no MBR section (section at address 0, telling where is the OS located on the disk). So you need to use the GRUB disk formatting application and initiating using the Mint USB stick first.
    Not sure what the big deal is, but I've intentionally deleted the boot partition during installs at least twice while installing Linux Mint on different computers, and it never gave me any problems. In fact, I was forced to do it on one of them. I was skeptical about deleting it, but Linux wouldn't install until I did.

    I've also had bad luck trying to manually install Grub. If I just use the install CD, while installing the OS, everything is fine. But when I was setting up dual-boot, and tried to do the Grub stuff manually... once again, UEFI is a huge pain in the butt. It randomly reverts to UEFI through Windows updates or any ridiculous non-reason.
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    Hi Norman
    Is it a good thing or otherwise?
    The challenge is that Widows has the market sewn up as far as software providers of some things go.
    The only thing I use it for is the DAW ( Digital Audio Workstation)

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    Manjaro KDE updated and screwed everything up, rolling distro can be a bad thing old bug solve but new bug occur... going back to Linux Mint soon but need to try out Mate-XFCE favours.

    Host PC already have Kubuntu-Manjaoro, having ago at Mint Mate also XFCE how it goes on VM,...considering have it multi-boot along side with other 2.

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    Chris, this might be the kind of truth about microsoft you can relate to very well.

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