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    Default The weaponization of the US intelligence community: 120 agency insiders now speak out

    Folks, listen to this, from a new YouTube channel. This is the inaugural show.

    The source video is here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wffo7kig-kI

    But the best intro might be Tracy Beanz's reupload, with comments, here. She describes it as 'stunning' and says she was 'floored by it' — maybe understandably.


    In the video, Ann Vandersteel talks to two members of the intelligence community, Robert Caron and Joshua Macias, who are representing 119 members of the DOJ, FBI, IRS, DOD, ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence), CIA, NSC, and NSA, as well as former Federal Judges, who are all coming forward now to speak.

    There'll be two supporting websites, which will be major repositories of detailed information to be released to the public. President Trump will have his own login. Tracy Beanz describes this initiative as 'WikiLeaks Lite'. They're not online yet, but should be active on Friday.
    This seems to be very highly significant. All comments, insights and observations welcome.
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    Evidence on Demand... Yes!!!

    Also, an important point is made.

    There is a National Emergency going on.

    It's important for the American people to understand, there is a National Emergency going on.
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    When it is suggested that people research Cassandra, I remember an article I read on that a while back.

    https://www.politico.com/interactive...investigation/

    Quote The campaign, dubbed Project Cassandra, was launched in 2008 after the Drug Enforcement Administration amassed evidence that Hezbollah had transformed itself from a Middle East-focused military and political organization into an international crime syndicate that some investigators believed was collecting $1 billion a year from drug and weapons trafficking, money laundering and other criminal activities.

    Over the next eight years, agents working out of a top-secret DEA facility in Chantilly, Virginia, used wiretaps, undercover operations and informants to map Hezbollah’s illicit networks, with the help of 30 U.S. and foreign security agencies.

    They followed cocaine shipments, some from Latin America to West Africa and on to Europe and the Middle East, and others through Venezuela and Mexico to the United States. They tracked the river of dirty cash as it was laundered by, among other tactics, buying American used cars and shipping them to Africa. And with the help of some key cooperating witnesses, the agents traced the conspiracy, they believed, to the innermost circle of Hezbollah and its state sponsors in Iran.

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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    When it is suggested that people research Cassandra, I remember an article I read on that a while back.

    https://www.politico.com/interactive...investigation/

    Quote The campaign, dubbed Project Cassandra, was launched in 2008 after the Drug Enforcement Administration amassed evidence that Hezbollah had transformed itself from a Middle East-focused military and political organization into an international crime syndicate that some investigators believed was collecting $1 billion a year from drug and weapons trafficking, money laundering and other criminal activities.

    Over the next eight years, agents working out of a top-secret DEA facility in Chantilly, Virginia, used wiretaps, undercover operations and informants to map Hezbollah’s illicit networks, with the help of 30 U.S. and foreign security agencies.

    They followed cocaine shipments, some from Latin America to West Africa and on to Europe and the Middle East, and others through Venezuela and Mexico to the United States. They tracked the river of dirty cash as it was laundered by, among other tactics, buying American used cars and shipping them to Africa. And with the help of some key cooperating witnesses, the agents traced the conspiracy, they believed, to the innermost circle of Hezbollah and its state sponsors in Iran.
    They will accuse Iran when in fact it is both, or the three, Iran, Israel and USA who have and maintain those criminal networks.

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    Robert Caron and Joshua Macias...on the Q team?

    Pretty awesome work and Patriotic spirit!

    Great video.

    MM
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    This is incredible. A huge step toward the truth. I am blown away that they are telling us what is really going on. Simply and plainly.
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    Data update. Joshua, interviewed by Ann Vandersteel, is Joshua E. Macias. Here's his twitter account:
    Tracy Beanz refers to Robert as Robert Caron.



    Here's her [very interesting] twitter stream:
    On his own twitter stream, Joshua clarifies who he is:

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    This is an outstanding development. Credible testimony, reason, and just plain DECENCY comes through. Looking very forward to future developments and the going live of the two websites mentioned.


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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    When it is suggested that people research Cassandra, I remember an article I read on that a while back.

    https://www.politico.com/interactive...investigation/

    Quote The campaign, dubbed Project Cassandra, was launched in 2008 after the Drug Enforcement Administration amassed evidence that Hezbollah had transformed itself from a Middle East-focused military and political organization into an international crime syndicate that some investigators believed was collecting $1 billion a year from drug and weapons trafficking, money laundering and other criminal activities.

    Over the next eight years, agents working out of a top-secret DEA facility in Chantilly, Virginia, used wiretaps, undercover operations and informants to map Hezbollah’s illicit networks, with the help of 30 U.S. and foreign security agencies.

    They followed cocaine shipments, some from Latin America to West Africa and on to Europe and the Middle East, and others through Venezuela and Mexico to the United States. They tracked the river of dirty cash as it was laundered by, among other tactics, buying American used cars and shipping them to Africa. And with the help of some key cooperating witnesses, the agents traced the conspiracy, they believed, to the innermost circle of Hezbollah and its state sponsors in Iran.
    They will accuse Iran when in fact it is both, or the three, Iran, Israel and USA who have and maintain those criminal networks.
    Flash, did you click through and read the article?

    It's a long article.

    I archived a pdf version offline, and the pdf is 58 pages.

    I don't think these prior Intel people would mention this issue for no reason.

    I expect we will be hearing much more about it in the future.

    As we will also be hearing more about "Payseur". Since the name has now been included in a Q drop and mentioned by Dave Janda.
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    Quote Posted by Michelle Marie (here)
    Robert Caron and Joshua Macias...on the Q team?

    Pretty awesome work and Patriotic spirit!

    Great video.

    MM
    I think this is the next layer in educating the public about what's been happening, and is happening regarding the global level of corruption.

    The first layer being the Q-drops. I think we will find that much of what will be disclosed through these sources will support what we've already been looking at in the Q-directed research.

    Also, I feel the growing support of the people behind the Q-posts have encouraged and emboldened people to step out.

    They now know, we'll have their back. We'll listen and pay attention to them.

    In the past, similar efforts have been buried in Mockingbird Media propaganda and public apathy.

    The timing for this is interesting. "A week to remember."

    The people following the Q-posts and researching the breadcrumbs/hints dropped will be ahead of the learning curve.

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    When you read the report Edina, where about everyone at government of other countries is either fully Hezbollah or in league with them, you realise that most of the world is lead and govern by the worst mafia there is.

    That mafia who has sophisticated tools they can use (banks, arms, drugs, people, money). And you can see what such governance end up doing, Venezuela actually being a prime example.

    You also see that the whole world is turning slowly but surely under extreme corruption and complete destruction of any morality.

    Then you see the rabbit hole being much deeper.

    My point being that the head of western governments, banks, corporations, is as corrupt and damaging as Hezbolkah could ever be.

    This is what I meant in my previous statements in another post. It is not Iran, it is the whole planet, Iran being a lesser problem.

    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    When it is suggested that people research Cassandra, I remember an article I read on that a while back.

    https://www.politico.com/interactive...investigation/

    Quote The campaign, dubbed Project Cassandra, was launched in 2008 after the Drug Enforcement Administration amassed evidence that Hezbollah had transformed itself from a Middle East-focused military and political organization into an international crime syndicate that some investigators believed was collecting $1 billion a year from drug and weapons trafficking, money laundering and other criminal activities.

    Over the next eight years, agents working out of a top-secret DEA facility in Chantilly, Virginia, used wiretaps, undercover operations and informants to map Hezbollah’s illicit networks, with the help of 30 U.S. and foreign security agencies.

    They followed cocaine shipments, some from Latin America to West Africa and on to Europe and the Middle East, and others through Venezuela and Mexico to the United States. They tracked the river of dirty cash as it was laundered by, among other tactics, buying American used cars and shipping them to Africa. And with the help of some key cooperating witnesses, the agents traced the conspiracy, they believed, to the innermost circle of Hezbollah and its state sponsors in Iran.
    They will accuse Iran when in fact it is both, or the three, Iran, Israel and USA who have and maintain those criminal networks.
    Flash, did you click through and read the article?

    It's a long article.

    I archived a pdf version offline, and the pdf is 58 pages.

    I don't think these prior Intel people would mention this issue for no reason.

    I expect we will be hearing much more about it in the future.

    As we will also be hearing more about "Payseur". Since the name has now been included in a Q drop and mentioned by Dave Janda.

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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I think this is the next layer in educating the public about what's been happening, and is happening regarding the global level of corruption.

    The first layer being the Q-drops.
    100% speculation here (I imagine we'll learn much more in the next week or so), but it's just possible that this initiative is designed to supplant Q, as a kind of Q 2.0.

    Here are the clear advantages, as I understand it:
    1. The provenance of all documentation, statements, and claims will be transparent.
    2. The individuals involved are publicly named and have a known history.
    3. There's no anonymity here, which can so easily be subverted (whether it has been in the case of Q, or not).
    4. It can't (easily!) be debunked, dismissed, or made fun of. (Just look up 'Qanon' in the mainstream media, or Wikileaks, and see what you get.)
    Full transparency here is absolutely what's needed. Whatever one's views on Q, most folks interested are likely to agree that released information that has credibility and provenance (and can also be checked by FOIA) is much more likely to attract the attention of the mainstream media and the mainstream populace, not to say Congress and genuine truthseekers and patriots of all parties.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    When you read the report Edina, where about everyone at government of other countries is either fully Hezbollah or in league with them, you realise that most of the world is lead and govern by the worst mafia there is.

    That mafia who has sophisticated tools they can use (banks, arms, drugs, people, money). And you can see what such governance end up doing, Venezuela actually being a prime example.

    You also see that the whole world is turning slowly but surely under extreme corruption and complete destruction of any morality.

    Then you see the rabbit hole being much deeper.

    My point being that the head of western governments, banks, corporations, is as corrupt and damaging as Hezbolkah could ever be.

    This is what I meant in my previous statements in another post. It is not Iran, it is the whole planet, Iran being a lesser problem.

    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    When it is suggested that people research Cassandra, I remember an article I read on that a while back.

    https://www.politico.com/interactive...investigation/

    Quote The campaign, dubbed Project Cassandra, was launched in 2008 after the Drug Enforcement Administration amassed evidence that Hezbollah had transformed itself from a Middle East-focused military and political organization into an international crime syndicate that some investigators believed was collecting $1 billion a year from drug and weapons trafficking, money laundering and other criminal activities.

    Over the next eight years, agents working out of a top-secret DEA facility in Chantilly, Virginia, used wiretaps, undercover operations and informants to map Hezbollah’s illicit networks, with the help of 30 U.S. and foreign security agencies.

    They followed cocaine shipments, some from Latin America to West Africa and on to Europe and the Middle East, and others through Venezuela and Mexico to the United States. They tracked the river of dirty cash as it was laundered by, among other tactics, buying American used cars and shipping them to Africa. And with the help of some key cooperating witnesses, the agents traced the conspiracy, they believed, to the innermost circle of Hezbollah and its state sponsors in Iran.
    They will accuse Iran when in fact it is both, or the three, Iran, Israel and USA who have and maintain those criminal networks.
    Flash, did you click through and read the article?

    It's a long article.

    I archived a pdf version offline, and the pdf is 58 pages.

    I don't think these prior Intel people would mention this issue for no reason.

    I expect we will be hearing much more about it in the future.

    As we will also be hearing more about "Payseur". Since the name has now been included in a Q drop and mentioned by Dave Janda.
    Flash your meaning was not initially clear. Otherwise, I would not have asked if you had read the article.

    The article offers information that supports the point you make in your second comment here.

    It raises important questions.

    Thanks for clarifying your point.
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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I think this is the next layer in educating the public about what's been happening, and is happening regarding the global level of corruption.

    The first layer being the Q-drops.
    100% speculation here (I imagine we'll learn much more in the next week or so), but it's just possible that this initiative is designed to supplant Q, as a kind of Q 2.0.

    Here are the clear advantages, as I understand it:
    1. The provenance of all documentation, statements, and claims will be transparent.
    2. The individuals involved are publicly named and have a known history.
    3. There's no anonymity here, which can so easily be subverted (whether it has been in the case of Q, or not).
    4. It can't (easily!) be debunked, dismissed, or made fun of. (Just look up 'Qanon' in the mainstream media, or Wikileaks, and see what you get.)
    Full transparency here is absolutely what's needed. Whatever one's views on Q, most folks interested are likely to agree that released information that has credibility and provenance (and can also be checked by FOIA) is much more likely to attract the attention of the mainstream media and the mainstream populace, not to say Congress and genuine truthseekers and patriots of all parties.
    LOL, exactly

    One of the aspects I appreciate greatly about the QAnon posts is how documented sources are used to support the information.

    For example, FBI Vaults, CIA library pages, Congressional site pages, the results of FOIA requests, Wikileak emails, and so on. The value lies in following up and verifying the information for oneself.

    In addition to information sharing, a lot of educating how to find information, where to look for what, also happens in the Q-Posts.

    To be fair, the intel group in the video seems to be a spin off or an extension of William Binney's group Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

    I'm happy to see this spirit of open source research and transparency continue further with this group, and like I said, when the site opens, I'll definitely be reading it.
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    Full interview
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    Is Youtube shadow banning this Youtube?

    It has over 36,000 views, but zero likes or dislikes, and comments disabled.

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    Default Re: The weaponization of the US intelligence community: 120 agency insiders now speak out

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    100% speculation here (I imagine we'll learn much more in the next week or so), but it's just possible that this initiative is designed to supplant Q, as a kind of Q 2.0.
    I would suggest not to supplant or replace, but rather to open up a new front in this war.

    P.S. -- To be clear, this new front that I refer to is what Bill describes above in these words:
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ... two members of the intelligence community, Robert Caron and Joshua Macias, who are representing 119 members of the DOJ, FBI, IRS, DOD, ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence), CIA, NSC, and NSA, as well as former Federal Judges, who are all coming forward now to speak.

    There'll be two supporting websites, which will be major repositories of detailed information to be released to the public. President Trump will have his own login. Tracy Beanz describes this initiative as 'WikiLeaks Lite'. They're not online yet, but should be active on Friday.
    This seems to be very highly significant. All comments, insights and observations welcome.
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    Default Re: The weaponization of the US intelligence community: 120 agency insiders now speak out

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    Is Youtube shadow banning this Youtube?

    It has over 36,000 views, but zero likes or dislikes, and comments disabled.
    Probably that they disabled likes/dislikes and comments.

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    Probably that they disabled likes/dislikes and comments.
    I knew (because the Youtube page tells me) that comments can be disabled (my poorly worded comment suggests otherwise ... yes <grin>.)

    Can you also deliberately disable likes/dislikes on a Youtube channel that you control?

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    Default Re: The weaponization of the US intelligence community: 120 agency insiders now speak out

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    Is Youtube shadow banning this Youtube?

    It has over 36,000 views, but zero likes or dislikes, and comments disabled.
    There’s a way to set up your YouTube settings to keep the likes and dislikes private. I clicked on the like button, that’s why it’s blue.







    The same for Bill Mitchell YouTube. You subscribe but the total subscribers is hidden.







    The number of views on YouTube is 37,404 (now it’s up to 38,394), on SocialBlade, it’s 38,197. Now whether they are messing with the stats or YouTube hasn’t caught up as yet, I couldn’t say.

    SocialBlade shows the number of views and subscribers. No one has subscribed in the last 30 days. I know this to be false because I subscribed last evening. But you can see the number of subscribers and views. The subscribers hasn’t changed but the views have. I believe it’s because the channel owner has turned that information off. Their latest video has a lot more hits than what they usually get.



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