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    Default Catholic priests accused of having oral sex in car spark international uproar

    So, here we go again, Catholic priests violating their oaths and demonstrating hypocrytical behaviour:


    BY WASHINGTON POST
    ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: SEP 6, 2018

    The men having sex inside the Volkswagen Beetle were so involved that a Miami-Dade police officer said he had to tap on the window to let them know that he could, in fact, see them — along with everyone else passing by on South Beach.

    But the very public nature of what they are accused of is not what has outraged people on two continents. It’s their occupation.

    The Rev. Diego Berrio, 39, and the Rev. Edwin Giraldo Cortes, 30, are both charged with lewd and lascivious behaviour after being arrested on Labour Day, according to Miami ABC affiliate WPLG. The arrests have led to swift action by the church and have drawn attention to its issues with priests’ sexuality.

    Berrio is a pastor of Misión San Juan Diego in Arlington Heights, Illinois. One of his duties was bringing visiting priests to the diocese, although he also led a youth group whose mission was to “evangelize young Hispanics in the United States,” according to the Chicago Catholic.

    Cortes, a priest from Soacha, Colombia, was serving in the St. Aloysius Parish in Chicago. He told a judge that he was supposed to return to Colombia on Wednesday. Instead, he faces an indecent exposure charge.

    Both men have been relieved of their church duties in Chicago.

    It is our responsibility to ensure those who serve our people are fit for ministry

    The archbishop of Chicago “has removed Fr. Berrio from ministry and withdrawn his faculties to minister in the Archdiocese of Chicago, effective immediately,” according to a statement from the Archbishop of Chicago, Blase Cupich. Officials there have also been in contact with Cortes’ home diocese and announced that he “will no longer serve as a priest in the archdiocese of Chicago.”

    “It is our responsibility to ensure those who serve our people are fit for ministry,” Cupich said. “We take this matter very seriously and will provide updates as they become available.”

    Others reactions weren’t as civil.

    Catholics and church critics railed against the men on social media. “Four sacrilege. Everyday,” one person tweeted. And video from the scene showed the priests covering their faces from cameras as they left jail. At one point, one of the men sprinted away. Neither of the men could immediately be reached for comment.

    Miami Beach police officers said the rented Volkswagen was parked on Ocean Drive, in front of a park and a hotel, according to Miami ABC affiliate WPLG.

    “The major concern that I had was the fact that it was in public,” Judge Jeffrey Rosinek said at the men’s first court hearing. “When a police officer can come and just watch, that’s a problem.”

    The case has become the latest entry in the debate about homosexuality and the Catholic Church.

    The Catholic Church deems homosexual acts “intrinsically disordered,” according to the Catechism.

    To ignore a son or daughter with homosexual tendencies is a lack of paternity and maternity

    “They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved,” the Catechism says.

    It adds that homosexual inclination is “a trial” and that gays and lesbians “must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity” while trying to use prayer and “sacramental grace” to stop.

    As The Washington Post reported, Pope Francis has made no concrete changes to church doctrine on homosexuality, but has used more inclusive language about gays and lesbians.

    Last month, a reporter on the papal plane asked the pope what a parent should say to a child who comes out as gay.

    “Don’t condemn,” he replied. “Dialogue, understand.”

    “I’ll never say that silence is a remedy,” Francis said. “To ignore a son or daughter with homosexual tendencies is a lack of paternity and maternity. You are my son, you are my daughter as you are! I’m your father, mother. Let’s talk!”


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    Default Re: Catholic priests accused of having oral sex in car spark international uproar

    So two men having sex (which is legal, the location they chose to do it was not), causes a huge uproar of in the Catholic Church, but decades of well known and documented, unpunished (very few are ever actually charged) child rape doesn't cause an uproar?!! If anything is "intrinsically disordered" it is child rape. Yet they look the other way and forgive this sin, over and over and over - but heaven forbid they have "legal" adult sex.

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    Default Re: Catholic priests accused of having oral sex in car spark international uproar

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    So two men having sex (which is legal, the location they chose to do it was not), causes a huge uproar of in the Catholic Church, but decades of well known and documented, unpunished (very few are ever actually charged) child rape doesn't cause an uproar?!! If anything is "intrinsically disordered" it is child rape. Yet they look the other way and forgive this sin, over and over and over - but heaven forbid they have "legal" adult sex.

    The catholic church is a filthy organization ... it's time is numbered.
    Filthy and now it seems a total evil satanic empire. Kinda the complete opposite of what I and many others thought.
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    Default Re: Catholic priests accused of having oral sex in car spark international uproar

    Looks like it's time to move each priest to a new location, like they do the pedo priests...

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    Default Re: Catholic priests accused of having oral sex in car spark international uproar

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    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    So two men having sex (which is legal, the location they chose to do it was not), causes a huge uproar of in the Catholic Church, but decades of well known and documented, unpunished (very few are ever actually charged) child rape doesn't cause an uproar?!! If anything is "intrinsically disordered" it is child rape. Yet they look the other way and forgive this sin, over and over and over - but heaven forbid they have "legal" adult sex.

    The catholic church is a filthy organization ... it's time is numbered.
    Filthy and now it seems a total evil satanic empire. Kinda the complete opposite of what I and many others thought.
    It seems as though most think the devil (evil) comes with horns, pointy tail and pitchfork.

    If that were true, it seems pretty easy to pick him out.

    I've noticed that evil comes disguised in many packages, usually beautiful on the outside or in sheep's clothes.

    Many believe the Catholic Church will be there salvation, so I can't fault someone for wanting the best in the end.

    Is the Catholic Church a front for disguising evil? I think so! How many would look there?
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    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    Looks like it's time to move each priest to a new location, like they do the pedo priests...
    not sure these guys need moving.. The stance does though.
    Please don't clumsily lump this in or connect what these guys did in the same sentence as pedos. Clumsy and damaging...

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    Default Re: Catholic priests accused of having oral sex in car spark international uproar

    Consensual sex between adults? No big deal, except for the hypocrisy. "Do as we say, not...."
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    Default Re: Catholic priests accused of having oral sex in car spark international uproar

    but it's just not the Catholic chuch alone; it's any organization that has power over the masses- like just start with law enforcement (cough)-

    yrs. ago (during the 90's) a former aquaintance of mine told me he was forced by two German policemen (yes, in same car) to gratify them orally- circumstances behind incident/location too complicated for an Email/PA posting-

    sexual assault occurs in all aspects of life-

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    A lot of people who seek social leverage, and position seem to be attracted to the church, Catholic, Anglican, Baptist..whatever flavor you feel is the right one for you.
    Whenever you have social power, you have corruption and potential for abuse.
    Nobody has heard the voice of God, nobody can claim to have received books written by the hand of God.
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    Amen!...Brother Mike!!

    Since my entire life was spent within a "religion" I can speak to that being true. So many times those in authority of churches become like Little Gods within their small sphere of influence....same things happen within the Protestant religions. It's not just the Catholics....it's ALL spheres where a human becomes an authoritarian figure.

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    ...

    ... monasteries - Buddhists and others... convents... orphanages... tribes... families... gurus... satanists... jihadists... etc...

    Not to forget the self-perpetuating mother of all:
    Rabbi exposes rampant child sex abuse in the Ultra-orthodox Jewish community

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