QAnon - An Opposing Viewpoint - LARP, Psyop, Cult or Something Even More Sinister?

[Matthew]

I can not explain that, and it's the first time I've seen it. But it doesn't sparkle with me.

Reminds me of the Q Anon ‘Profiteering post’ (April 29 2018 10:11:22 (EST) ) “Be careful who you are following. Some are profiting off this movement. …”

Thank you waree!

[KiwiElf]

Posted by waree (here)

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Hope you cross post this (your above post) on the main Q thread, waree - it's quite significant (yellow vests), as is that whole Economist Cover

As mentioned in my earlier post (#386 above), there are several "groups/operations" (or psyops) running parallel with Q, "Anonymous", etc. Here is another:

https://twitter.com/TS_SCI_MAJIC12

Thanks. I hope you are right. A lot of good things are happening... so I may be Trump and Q are who they say they are! ..coming to save us and all...

More a case of showing us how to save ourselves

[waree]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)

Posted by waree (here)

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Hope you cross post this (your above post) on the main Q thread, waree - it's quite significant (yellow vests), as is that whole Economist Cover

As mentioned in my earlier post (#386 above), there are several "groups/operations" (or psyops) running parallel with Q, "Anonymous", etc. Here is another:

https://twitter.com/TS_SCI_MAJIC12

Thanks. I hope you are right. A lot of good things are happening... so I may be Trump and Q are who they say they are! ..coming to save us and all...

More a case of showing us how to save ourselves

Nice! I think so...

[Matthew]

Does this ring any alarm bells for anyone else?

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: ebc49e No.3783812 📁
Nov 7 2018 13:12:06 (EST)
We are going to show you a new world.
Those who are blind will soon see the light.
A beautiful brave new world lies ahead.
We take this journey together.
One step at a time.
WWG1WGA!
Q

[waree]

Posted by YoYoYo (here)
Does this ring any alarm bells for anyone else?

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: ebc49e No.3783812 📁
Nov 7 2018 13:12:06 (EST)
We are going to show you a new world.
Those who are blind will soon see the light.
A beautiful brave new world lies ahead.
We take this journey together.
One step at a time.
WWG1WGA!
Q

Yes. I listened to many youtubers. They all think this is creepy. But I guess we can just keep our fingers cross and hope that this is a misunderstanding or may be Q was hacked! What else can it be, but Aldous Huxley's Brave New World!!???

[KiwiElf]

Posted by YoYoYo (here)
Does this ring any alarm bells for anyone else?

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: ebc49e No.3783812 📁
Nov 7 2018 13:12:06 (EST)
We are going to show you a new world.
Those who are blind will soon see the light.
A beautiful brave new world lies ahead.
We take this journey together.
One step at a time.
WWG1WGA!
Q

Nop, not at all. (If it had come from George Bush or HRC, yes, for sure. Bush Senior stated "this will be a New World Order" several times during his presidency).

Of course, it's open to interpretation; look at the whole thing rather than just one line, or even one Q post (out of context), not to mention dozens of other Q posts which expand on the meaning.

That aside, I prefer, "A beautiful brave new world lies ahead" over a "New World Order". But then I'm not inclined towards "the sky is falling" mentality or innuendo. Which do you prefer? (Be careful what you wish for ... or focus on).

About the same difference between "Immigrants" and "Illegal Immigrants".

[waree]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)

Posted by YoYoYo (here)
Does this ring any alarm bells for anyone else?

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: ebc49e No.3783812 📁
Nov 7 2018 13:12:06 (EST)
We are going to show you a new world.
Those who are blind will soon see the light.
A beautiful brave new world lies ahead.
We take this journey together.
One step at a time.
WWG1WGA!
Q

Nop, not at all. (If it had come from George Bush or HRC, yes, for sure. Bush Senior stated "this will be a New World Order" several times during his presidency).

Of course, it's open to interpretation; look at the whole thing rather than just one line, or even one Q post (out of context), not to mention dozens of other Q posts which expand on the meaning.

That aside, I prefer, "A beautiful brave new world lies ahead" over a "New World Order". But then I'm not inclined towards "the sky is falling" mentality or innuendo. Which do you prefer? (Be careful what you wish for ... or focus on).

About the same difference between "Immigrants" and "Illegal Immigrants".

yup yup... probably so...

[Bill Ryan]

Posting this for informational purposes, without comment.

David Icke | QAnon is a Psyop

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iTvPyzDzDWI

[norman]

HAH . . . the cavalry is all of us. We can't turn this around without the executive branch and the executive branch can't turn this around without us.

The "PSYOP" is there to keep us on the same page, to get it done.


A note: Q did not say anyone would be in Gitmo in January. That little mic jockey was being a prat.

[Praxis]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Posting this for informational purposes, without comment.

David Icke | QAnon is a Psyop

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iTvPyzDzDWI

I am honestly surprised and saddened that you would post a video of this nature.

Dont hide behind, "this is informational post". You clearly find something compelling enough to share and here we are otherwise you would have watched the video and let it pass.

The video you shared has two parts. One that is relevant to this thread and conversation and the other does not as is being used as slander .

Bill, you effectively just shared a video that is using Icke's ideas about shapeshifting reptilians as a way to smear his opinions about Qanon.

So instead of debate aspects of why Q anon could or could not be real, you are going with the old "he has what we deem to be bonkers ideas in area X so his ideas about area Y must also be bonkers. "

That video, unless I completely misunderstood its content and intent, was trying to paint him as a loony because his beliefs in one area is contrary to the Qult.

WOW. I am utterly shocked that you would share and support such a video of such low quality and effort.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
David Icke | QAnon is a Psyop

The original February 2019 interview, from which these comments by David Icke on Qanon were taken, can be found in Gaia's post at The "other" Q thread -- Post #8617

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Praxis (here)
Bill, you effectively just shared a video that is using Icke's ideas about shapeshifting reptilians as a way to smear his opinions about Qanon.

No, I didn't.

[Praxis]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Praxis (here)
Bill, you effectively just shared a video that is using Icke's ideas about shapeshifting reptilians as a way to smear his opinions about Qanon.

No, I didn't.

What, in your opinion, is the purpose of the video you shared?The author of the video had a purpose for making it, what do you hazard it might have been/is?

Do you truly believe they were pro ICKE people that were just trying to share two of Ickes ideas so that other icke fans, and even non fans I guess, could know how he feels about these two topics?

or are you saying you didnt in fact post the video?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Praxis (here)
or are you saying you didnt in fact post the video?

I'm saying it says a lot more about Roosevelt Media News (who made the video to try to discredit David Icke's opinion) than David Icke.

For anyone who knows David and his work, that video rather backfires. I know him personally, and he's rarely wrong about anything at all.

[Gaia]

And the grifters are: https://elemifuentes.com/2019/03/26/...gend-part-7-1/

[Bill Ryan]

This ongoing series, by internet journalist Elemi Fuentes, is long, detailed, intelligent, and interesting.

Recommended for any students of the Q phenomenon who may wish to dig just a little deeper into the complex background and history.

The sheer number of references and screenshots (a huge quantity!) make it impossible to copy and paste here.

1. Qanon: the Qult and the Legend – Part 1
2. Qanon: the Qult and the Legend – Part 2
3. Qanon: the Qult and the Legend – Part 3
4. Qanon: the Qult and the Legend – Part 4
5. Qanon: the Qult and the Legend – Part 5
6. Qanon: the Qult and the Legend – Part 6
7. Qanon: the Qult and the Legend – Part 7.1

[AutumnW]

Avalon appears to be supporting a hoax by using the default mode of 'free speech.' What is nauseating about this is Q actively supports the elite who would like nothing better than to suppress free speech. The hoaxers behind Q also actively promote a war with Iran, don't mind cozying up to the criminal Netanyahoo administration, etc...What comes to mind is the simple, "forgive them Lord as they know not what they do." Not bad people just blisteringly naive.

[T Smith]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Avalon appears to be supporting a hoax by using the default mode of 'free speech.' What is nauseating about this is Q actively supports the elite who would like nothing better than to suppress free speech. The hoaxers behind Q also actively promote a war with Iran, don't mind cozying up to the criminal Netanyahoo administration, etc...What comes to mind is the simple, "forgive them Lord as they know not what they do." Not bad people just blisteringly naive.

Because we are having this discussion does not mean Avalon is supporting a hoax.

It means Avalon is supporting a discussion whether or not Q is a hoax. Surely you can discern the difference?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Avalon appears to be supporting a hoax by using the default mode of 'free speech.' What is nauseating about this is Q actively supports the elite who would like nothing better than to suppress free speech. The hoaxers behind Q also actively promote a war with Iran, don't mind cozying up to the criminal Netanyahoo administration, etc...What comes to mind is the simple, "forgive them Lord as they know not what they do." Not bad people just blisteringly naive.

Because we are having this discussion does not mean Avalon is supporting a hoax.

It means Avalon is supporting a discussion whether or not Q is a hoax. Surely you can discern the difference?

Yes. We have to be very careful with words here. And I want to be careful with this reply.

As can be seen from the 'Q' poll, not one of the current moderators' team is a proponent of the 'Q' material. So that may say something about 'Avalon's position'.

Rather, we've [largely] chosen not to get involved in any mudfight, which I feel is wise.

As is no secret, I personally don't believe 'Q' is credible. But I am wholly supportive of the entire affair (including the ongoing 'Q drops') being freely discussed. I think that's important, and have never held otherwise.

My stance is that in the end the truth will almost certainly come to the surface about the undeniable provenance of the 'Q' material, which may be complex with a number of handed-down ownerships.

But before we're in a place where all of us are looking at and agreeing on all the same information, we may have to be patient for a little longer — and if one's not a diehard 'Q' supporter, maybe just observe, and simply let it all play out.

[AutumnW]

https://www.mintpressnews.com/pro-tr...n-iran/244686/

Summary below:

Martin asserted that the recent QAnon posts seem to be aimed at preparing Trump’s base for a war they would normally not accept. He told MintPress:

QAnon appears to be slowly grooming millions of people on the internet who had normally been skeptical of pro-government narratives in the past to ‘trust the plan’ — aka trust everything Donald Trump is doing including hiring dangerous neocons who want to overthrow the government of Iran.”

Given QAnon’s foray into fostering support for regime change abroad, the recognition of the phenomenon as a psyop that preys on the wishes and emotions that Trump as a candidate cultivated in his supporters seems inevitable, particularly as it has begun claiming that all concerns over a looming war should be ignored. Instead, Q urges followers to “trust the plan.”

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The truth will likely come out...eventually. In the meantime, Avalon, by providing a platform for public viewing of the pro Q thread, without putting it behind an opt in wall of some sort....is part of the problem. Your stance is NOT neutral as long as you allow this to go on, refer to those who want to counter a hoax as "engaging in a mudfight" etc...That is profoundly unfair, unwise and a turn off to potential new members who see comments like that, become turned off and leave.

The Q thread continues to remain at the very top of the new posts page because zealots are more committed to their imaginations and emotions than clarity of thought.

It's fanaticism and extremism and profoundly lazy thinking that others on the forum are trying to counter. It gets really tough. I don't enjoy this AT ALL but feel compelled to do what I can to make a positive difference here.

With respect. Autumn