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    Default Disclosure & the British Ministry of Defence

    A direct quote from the British MINISTRY of DEFENCE issued 11 SEP 2018 :-

    " IT IS NECESSARY FOR US TO DECIDE WHETHER THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN MAINTAINING THE EXEMPTION (Secrecy) OUTWEIGHS THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN DISCLOSURE."

    This WRITTEN statement is taken from the official MOD response to a FOIA by Gari Jones, a Welsh UFO investigator.

    The full written statement can be found here :-

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque..._passthrough=1

    This FOIA request concerns an incident which can be found here :-

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    Default Re: Disclosure & the British Ministry of Defence

    Can't hide the truth forever
    I'll give them an A for effort tho :]

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    Default Re: Disclosure & the British Ministry of Defence

    It's a faint possibility that their EXCUSE may have been valid 70 years ago,

    but it definitely is NOT valid now in 2018.

    THEY'RE TAKING THE P... !!

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    Default Re: Disclosure & the British Ministry of Defence

    Quote Posted by boja (here)
    It's a faint possibility that their EXCUSE may have been valid 70 years ago,

    but it definitely is NOT valid now in 2018.

    THEY'RE TAKING THE P... !!
    In looking at the original request in the OP, the person making the request asked 14 different questions. These questions involved military movements, specific use of ordnance, road closures, and equipment.

    While I’m all for UFO disclosure, I think any military would have rational justification for refusing to answer some, if not all, of Mr Jones’ questions. This was an incident that occurred just 2 years ago, yes? If the information in any of Jones’ questions regarding military hardware is still classified, the MOD’s excuse is quite valid- do you see what I mean? Many of the questions were open ended. Each one of those questions could be a separate request.

    Having written a number of these requests in the US myself, there is a careful balance between providing just enough info for the request, versus providing too much. Either one can result in a denial.

    If you want to have some real fun, submit 1 request that is somewhat general. Seriously, give this a try this is a most interesting case and persistence with these buggers is needed. The solution is not giving up, but rather changing strategies. For instance:

    Hello
    I am submitting a FOI request for all information and data available regarding the measures, intelligence, preparations, process, and reports on exercise chameleon.

    Thank you.
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    Default Re: Disclosure & the British Ministry of Defence

    Great reply there Joe
    Possible compensation issues might be involved, because It doesn't help when citizens concerned, keep on enforcing health issues that might have been caused by the event.
    If there is an actual struggle going on, the Black opp radars,devices and or weapons as used by the forces might be causing some of the health problems.
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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Great reply there Joe
    Possible compensation issues might be involved, because It doesn't help when citizens concerned, keep on enforcing health issues that might have been caused by the event.
    If there is an actual struggle going on, the Black opp radars,devices and or weapons as used by the forces might be causing some of the health problems.
    Thanks- and yes, well said. Does the military in the UK seek healthcare from the NHS as well, or so they have their own military version? That could be an alternate way to go about doing the FOI request.

    While I doubt medical information would ever be released, a separate request for potentially hazardous material spills or deployment for the encounter dates may be another way of collecting some pieces it may return fully blacked out documents, however, that tells you a little more than a denial form.

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    Default Re: Disclosure & the British Ministry of Defence

    We are dealing with Britain which is still probably one of the most secretive societies in the Western world, whistle-blowers are quickly dealt with, hence not that many around in UK.

    All military and government officials swear allegiance to HM Queen and not the people, so British royals rules the roost and have done for thousands of years. Anything relating to ‘disclosure’ would certainly have to be approved by Buckingham Palace as is everything the Government does.

    Nevertheless it is still worth hammering away at these clowns, as I often do. Unfortunately they have the trump card – No information due to National Security Grounds.

    I typically target the Minister of Defence or Foreign secretary with these sorts of questions – often you then get passed over to the Strategic Air Command to give you the runaround.

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    I quite frankly dont give a flying fadoo about almost all of their national security reasons, which are primarily hogwash and are fundamentally illegitimate. In the US the government 'classifies' (ie. makes it against the law to make public) thousands of patents annually due to fake reasons of 'national security'. These closeted patents includes any highly energy efficient power generation equipment, particularly of the 'free energy' type.

    Regarding UFOs and their tech, the most dangerous area to national security is that undesireable factors in the government and the corporate fascist deep state get a monopoly on reversed engineered alien tech and/or highly advanced human designed technology. This is the greatest threat to our freedom. These undesireables have weaponized this tech as demonstrated by the vaporized buildings of 9/11 and more recently, the laser sawn houses of california 'wildfire' fame.

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