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    I have for some time now been drawn to explore the concept of duality.

    Is it duality that creates, and keeps us trapped in this dream of illusory reality, or is duality actually just a by-product of this low vibrational, material plane?

    My understanding is that duality is only in effect in this reality, not outside it. Duality is imo a product of the low vibrational material 3D world. Imagine a coin spinning fast on it's side, can you distinguish the two different sides of the coin? No, because the spin (vibration) is so fast that the two distinct sides merge into one.

    Now imagine the same coin spinning slowly just about to topple over, now both sides of the coin can be distinguished...this is how we end up with duality. Yes, it is only a difference in perception, but it is a difference that ultimately shapes and creates our own reality. We perceive good and evil, dark and light, right and wrong and so we believe in their existence as separate and distinct from each other, when in fact these concepts are just that, concepts with no substance in reality.

    Polarity (the coin spinning fast) is the natural order of things outside this madhouse. There is no good and evil, dark and light, right and wrong, only the synthesis of those opposing poles, now, neither good nor evil can be said to exist, they exist only as abstract concepts.

    The implications of this understanding are massive imo and I feel I have only pushed the door of understanding open a crack. Can anyone shed more light (and/or dark) on this?

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    One of these is essential to the way the physical realm works, the other is nothing more than a two-dimensional belief system. Some people use the terms duality and polarity interchangeably, but I'm going to make a strong distinction between the two for the sake of clarity.

    The first thing to understand about duality is that it divides, it's either one thing or the other. Black or white, right or wrong, good or evil. It does this through judgement, separating things and creating conflict. Duality is how human beings, who have much more in common than not, are convinced to fight with and even kill each other. Duality is used to create an "us versus them" mentality.

    Now polarity is something else entirely. Where duality has a positive and negative that conflict with each other, polarity has a positive and negative that attract each other. In the case of what recently happened with our Sun's poles, they can even switch places. Polarity is complimentary forces that work together to create balance, duality is the belief in opposing forces that conflict with each other and create chaos.

    In duality one is "better" or "above" another, and this is responsible for so much suffering on the Planet. Some people believe they're more worthy, more deserving than others, and they take far more than they need. People compare themselves to others, and judge themselves as being "better" or "worse", which leads to an inflated ego or hating oneself. If you really want peace in your life, I recommend letting go of duality altogether.

    Where duality divides things into black or white, polarity includes the full spectrum, it's all inclusive. Duality takes the spectrum and draws a line somewhere, cutting it in half. Duality really only exists in the mind, it doesn't directly relate to the physical realm. What people call "evil" is only the product of not seeing clearly, it's human judgement, not something inherent to the Universe itself. What is "evil" varies from culture to culture, and also between individuals. It changes over time, as people minds and opinions change.

    The only darkness is that which you can't see, what you don't know. It's the fear of the unknown that makes darkness menacing and "evil". Your eyes only see a tiny fraction of the full spectrum of light, and yet all the light you cannot see you call "darkness". This is a perfect example of why people believe in duality, it's a product of limited perception. It's a judgement based upon limited senses, people see only a tiny fraction of Reality and make assumptions about the whole thing.

    Understanding vibration is key to understanding polarity. Take a guitar string for instance, is a low pitch "bad" and a high pitch "good"? That's a lot like how duality interprets things. With polarity, you go up and down the full scale to make a beautiful song, the low notes complimenting the high notes. This is a "secret" to how Creation works, not through opposing forces, but Everything coming together to create a beautiful song.

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    Default Re: Duality V Polarity

    Wow. Love this explanation/metaphor.

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    Thank you for your post Pueblo.

    I've been pondering your recommendation that of "letting go of duality altogether".

    To my mind the duality which is evident everywhere is a fundamental function of creation itself - from "let there be light" onward it is inherent in the energy and expression of creation itself. To be alive at all is to experience "contrast"; to experience heat but not cold requires that I experience creation as a timeline (first one thing, followed by another - and not all things simultaneously, or at least not right now). This is not to negate the validity of "non-duality" in the Hindu sense of "oneness" or "unity" which I interpret as a universal connectedness. Duality may be illusory but only in the sense that existence and creation itself is.

    You ask - Is a low pitch "bad" and a high pitch "good"? Possibly. But its moral charge is unrelated to its tonal height or depth. I've seen paintings contain marks of despair and others contain touches of deep love and tenderness. These are moral interpretations of the energy with which something is "charged" and actually unrelated to its location on a dualistic spectrum. I'm not convinced this equates to the assertion that "neither good nor evil can be said to exist, they exist only as abstract concepts". My big toe is both an abstract concept and it exists. They are not mutually exclusive.

    It can be said that good (and its absence evil) "exist" and are abstract concepts but I can't buy that they are a duality which can be so easily dismissed. Goodness/love being the atmosphere in which we all exist would appear to suspend and sustain all contrast, activity and duality with evil being an attempt to (spiritually speaking) hold our breath and withdraw our being from this atmosphere. There is no question of opposites here; there is something and then its lack. Good can exist without evil while evil is wholly dependent and is in a real sense sustained by good. That they are opposites or even illusory is in many ways appealing certainly, but always feels like sophistry to me. Would love to know what others think.

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    Default Re: Duality V Polarity

    Great topic Pueblo.
    Duality the ultimate conflict to resolve in this world. When you start to understand the first circle and you think you made it , that precise moment it opens a greater circle of conflicts.
    Making a distinction between duality and polarity is a great start of understanding that those conflicts are not paradoxes, but that it exists a connection in a strange way, yet to be fully understood.
    From duality we understand the balance and from the balance we understand the right path.

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    Why stop at binary?
    cordibus nostris non quiesceret donec requiescat in te

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    Great quality information, I'm delighted!

    Binary vs pure conscioussness / singularity?

    Binary as a vehicle of scientific understanding, grinds to a halt before the event horizon.

    Only conscioussness of high order is allowed to reach (or retract?) beyond the event horizon, and beyond, nothing from this reality applies.

    A dull proposal would read: "We need to invent a new paradigm superseding the antiquated binary understanding."
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    Quote Posted by hermit (here)
    Why stop at binary?
    Can you expand on that? I'm not much of a mathematician

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    I have studied this topic for a while, but the best source I ever found was this documentary. Enjoy!


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    Here's another way to consider the role duality could play. I don't offer this concept to suggest this is how it really works...

    Imagine you are an intelligence, an awareness, no body, no time, no objects, etc.

    Now imagine you want to explore any and all possible versions of yourself, experiencing all possible experiences...

    So you create a sort of holographic fractal reality, like a super high tech virtual reality, were countless versions of you can "play" at one time.

    In this place, it's just you, and it's perfectly safe, no matter what happens to the virtual 3D you, the real you is perfectly safe.

    Now if you're in your VR game and one version of you wants to experience death, and another version of you wants to experience anger and murder.
    So one of you kills the other of you... Perfect! The experience is had, as by design.

    Do you think the one who did the killing is a bad guy? Is that version of you evil? Should it be punished?

    Should the experiences be stopped because you suffer, even though it's perfectly safe to suffer and die in your VR, and when you shed your VR body you wake up on the othet side as the real you?

    Is there any duality actually happening, or is it more like a computer program creating gravity, creating nerves that rely "pain" to a "brain", and it's just one actor in the play.

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    In the East called the condition of Maya.

    Though illusory, all beings are caught in it, some, worse than others.

    The point of meditation is non-duality. Duality is the first state of universal consciousness awakening from its slumber and maya is all, in this world, anyway. It is removed by grosser and finer degrees.
    Gayatri Namasangiti Nucleus of the Complete Bodhisattva Path from the Sanskrit

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    Quote Posted by halcyon026 (here)
    Here's another way to consider the role duality could play. I don't offer this concept to suggest this is how it really works...

    Imagine you are an intelligence, an awareness, no body, no time, no objects, etc.

    Now imagine you want to explore any and all possible versions of yourself, experiencing all possible experiences...

    So you create a sort of holographic fractal reality, like a super high tech virtual reality, were countless versions of you can "play" at one time.

    In this place, it's just you, and it's perfectly safe, no matter what happens to the virtual 3D you, the real you is perfectly safe.

    Now if you're in your VR game and one version of you wants to experience death, and another version of you wants to experience anger and murder.
    So one of you kills the other of you... Perfect! The experience is had, as by design.

    Do you think the one who did the killing is a bad guy? Is that version of you evil? Should it be punished?

    Should the experiences be stopped because you suffer, even though it's perfectly safe to suffer and die in your VR, and when you shed your VR body you wake up on the othet side as the real you?

    Is there any duality actually happening, or is it more like a computer program creating gravity, creating nerves that rely "pain" to a "brain", and it's just one actor in the play.
    Interesting, thanks.

    I have always felt strongly that no real harm can come to us here. After all, these meat suits, these personalities are not even us. There is perhaps no us at all.

    Are we more like tendrils of consciousness that extend out from the One?

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    Quote Posted by pueblo (here)
    Are we more like tendrils of consciousness that extend out from the One?
    I would like to believe all life and everything that is, is mere fragments of singular consciousness.

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