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    Can anyone independently confirm the following - see attached. His web site is www.halturnerradioshow.com
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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    I’ve not heard anything about this in particular but I have heard some other disturbing claims recently.

    Apparently, World War 3 was intended by the elite to only last 13 weeks.

    They wanted to provoke war with Iran, so that Iran would retaliate by shutting down the straight of Hormuz. Since a high proportion of the worlds oil supply flows through the straights, the big oil companies would use it as a pretext to cut off our oil supply, causing much of the infrastructure that we take for granted and rely on in the Western world, to grind to a halt.

    Eric Dollard warned in this years ‘energy, science and technology forum’ presentation that America’s energy grid is being sabotaged—either through ignorance or willfull conspiracy—to make it highly susceptible to an EMP attack, to a degree he describes as “a national security concern with high priority”.

    I’ve read elsewhere that a lot of the migrants, who are currently pouring into Europe, are being taken into bases, and equipped and armed in preparation for a surprise attack. Which, initially I’d written off as being fear porn, but, there was an article in a local newspaper several weeks ago, where a teenage migrant was being sentenced (I can’t remember his crime) but as he was escorted off to the prison, he just laughed at the judge and jury and said “you’ll all be dead soon anyway”, as though he knew some form of major attack was imminent.

    I still think much of it is fear porn. Although, it always pays to be vigilant and prepared, just incase their is an element of truth to the hearsay.

    Expect the best, plan for the worst” has always been a wise motto to live by, make sure all angles are covered.

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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    When is 'this weekend'? It's Saturday evening and nothing's kicking off. Next weekend, the weekend after? A date would have helped.

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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index....pital-in-syria

    Fake...staged. Scatter this video to the four winds ASAP.

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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index....-isis-in-syria

    U.S. forces killed in Syria...great.

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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    Quote Posted by Honesty (here)
    U.S. forces killed in Syria...great.
    I don't know about an uprising in Liechtenstein, but yes, that happened, they got ambushed by the losers. Pentagon won't answer the phone.

    Syria slowed down a little bit to see how the chlorine attack near Jisr al Shugour is going to play out, but, as things proceed in due course, they are not even slightly intimidated by Turkish, U. S., or French militaries; in fact, the civilians are not intimidated by these.

    Here's the list of those who care about U. S. casualties in some place they don't belong:

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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

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    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index....atories-closed

    Possible grid down scenario...
    And when nothing happens yet again, is the "HAL Turner Radio Show" going to apologise for just making sh!t up? Of course not.

    The only accurate content in that piece is most of the data about the actual Carrington Event which it pretty well documented.

    Unfortunately solar scientists can't even accurately predict the time or intensity of a normal solar flare. So to predict a "possible Carrington [intensity] event at 80% probability, within weeks" is just poppycock at best and dangerous fear porn at worst. Why do these site do it? Click bait I guess...

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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    Covert Intelligence Sources on the ground in Syria confirm to me directly these aircraft are bringing in brand new Russian S-300 Anti-Aircraft Defense Systems supplied by Russia, with all the latest upgrades.

    Normally certain vehicle components of these systems make them almost impossible to transport by cargo aircraft. But today, those components are arriving DIS-ASSEMBLED, i.e. the rocket tubes normally mounted to the top of launcher trucks, have now been detached to fit in the planes. Similarly, radar components normally attached to trucks, have also been detached to allow all of it to fit inside planes. Upon arrival, these planes are being swiftly unloaded with the cargo carefully obscured from public view.

    It is estimated that within the past few hours, at least HALF A DOZEN model S-300 systems have already arrived inside Syria. These are said to be complete systems: Vehicles, Launch Tubes, Rockets, Radar, and Communications. More are already confirmed to be on the way.

    The modern version of the S-300 air defense missile system is extraordinarily capable. It has much farther effective range than the old Syrian S-200, and once installed, will be able to track and shoot down planes INSIDE the entire sovereign territory of Israel.

    This was long-ago declared by Israel to be one of their "Red Lines"; A cause for them to immediately attack or even go to war.

    But after Israel used a Russian Electronics Intelligence plane as radar cover earlier this week, in order for Israel to launch a sneak attack with missiles upon Syria, resulting in the old Syrian S-200 erroneously locking-on to the Russian plane and shooting it down, Russia is now ready to face off with the Israelis.

    The supplying of these completely updated S-300 systems to Syria is a "game changer." Said one of my former colleagues in the Intelligence community "Nothing good is going to come out of this. This takes the troubles to a whole new level."

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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    Seven (7) Russian Air Force Cargo Jets arrived simultaneously at Khmiemim Air Base in Syria this morning. The photo below tells only part of the story.

    According to covert Intel sources on the ground inside Syria - one of whom took the photo below - the cargo these planes carried into Syria were the final computer components for a large number of S-300 Missile Defense Systems which were flown into Syria from Iran and from Russia over the past few days and . . . . .

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    Tactical Nuclear Warheads mountable on Russian Kalibr Missiles! ! ! !

    Yes, you read that correctly! Tactical nuclear warheads mountable on Kalibr missiles, some of which are ground-based already in Syria, and many more of which are ship-based in the Mediterranean Sea, were flown into Syria this morning aboard one of the planes in the photo above.

    The Intel people on the ground know this to be the case from BOTH sources in the Russian military AND the level of security around the one particular plane. The security around the cargo coming off that plane was such that NOTHING could get near the cargo. Sources tell me directly there was a "Gauntlet" of troops, heavy weapons, helicopters and heavily armed fighter air patrols circling above. The source I spoke to told me "There is no doubt whatsoever what was being brought in."

    This is an escalation of unimaginable proportion and the talk in Intelligence Community circles is that Russia now EXPECTS to be directly attacked, by Israeli forces, and that the attack may actually be a small nuclear first-strike! Russia is now prepared to respond to any such eventuality and all sources confirm that Russia "absolutely positively will respond if directly attacked in such a fashion."

    Folks, this is real. It is actually happening. In an actual war zone. It doesn't get more real than this.

    Keep your eyes PEELED on Syria.

    No one expected the turn of events which have taken place starting with the shoot-down of a Russian IL-20 Plane. And NO ONE anticipated the things that have come since. The world is actually on the cusp of seeing an real nuclear exchange in the Middle East.

    Prior to this morning, such a thing remained a far distant possibility. After this morning, it is a very close possibility.

    This has disaster written all over it.
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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index....ystem-to-syria

    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index....ttacking-syria

    The situation in the Middle East appears to be devolving into an imminent existential threat to Israel.
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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index....-live-in-syria

    Slow frog boil escalation continues unabated...

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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    Hal’s radio show was completely blocked last night - see attached...right before Hal started talking about the Middle East.

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    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/h...ct-04-2018.mp3 is the link to the archived show.
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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

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    Hal’s radio show was completely blocked last night - see attached...right before Hal started talking about the Middle East.


    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/h...ct-04-2018.mp3 is the link to the archived show.
    I've experienced personally such an attack in the early 1990's. Came back to my workshop to find all the computers, electronics, hard drives "neutralized" one afternoon. Awfully annoying to find that happen.. Took a look around and my timing was pretty good.. Right over the hill pointed right at my workshop was a black helicopter with some sort of "array" antenna on the nose pointed right at me. Could have been a gun from a "gunship" but I know what a dielectric rod antenna looks like. Seems some jerkwad thought zapping my workshop would cause 'a rise' I suppose, or if I had counter-measures operative what damage could they induce.. Shortly there-after, I was contacted by an ex-air-farce-lt.Col wanting to know if I could assist Eglin AFB in locating hidden UXO's (unexploded ordinance).. long story, but that apparently was the 'tap on the shoulder' that 'we wuv you..' sorta like how a mountain lion will bite - one's a kitten in "play".. a love bite.. (and a kitten should know how to respond you see..)

    ==update==

    Anyone wanting to see the patent on the HPEM weapon, see here: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20120098607 HSA wasn't able to catch this patent before it was released. From the Patent:

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    Antennas commonly used in HPEM systems include, for example, parallel plate waveguides and horn and helical antennas.
    [0014]
    To be practical for mobile uses (such as being mounted on cars or small aircraft such as police helicopters), a vehicle disabling HPEM system must be small enough to be mountable to the vehicle platform (e.g. police car or helicopter), must be tunable over a wide frequency range (e.g. 200-1350 MHz), and must be able to deliver rapid and repeated bursts of directed microwave energy.

    High Power Electromagnetic (HPEM) systems are being investigated for potential use for disabling motor vehicles, vessels, and aircraft for security and law enforcement purposes. It has been proposed that properly configured and directed microwave radiation can induce currents in wiring of a vehicle that can cause a malfunction of the vehicle's electronic control module (“ECM”) and/or other electronic components
    Such a system can turn the tables on the "attacker" and take down such aircraft. One can only imagine what an electromagnetic war would be like, not fought with bullets or plasma bolts, but with beams that will rapidly neutralize flying assault systems. (Kitten eats mother lion, yum)
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    Default Re: Hal Turner on 'civil war' in Europe, a strike on Syria, and war in Israel

    Bob, could that dielectric rod be used to zap a person? Cause a severe "burn" on the side of their nose which then gets into their eye, and make them very weak and sick for weeks?

    I had several black helicopter "visits" and am wondering if there is a connection.
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    Bob, could that dielectric rod be used to zap a person? Cause a severe "burn" on the side of their nose which then gets into their eye, and make them very weak and sick for weeks?

    I had several black helicopter "visits" and am wondering if there is a connection.
    The HMEP (High power electromagnetic pulse) weapon can induce a high voltage pulse (i.e. a "shock") in anything that absorbs it. Something that can penetrate wood and glass, brick, but bounces off for the most part a totally shielded (metallic) structure.. (It would get through the front grill of a car, or the windows of a car, through the dash and into the computer system).. A portable nuclear weapon in a box with the output in a beam is a rather gross analogy, but that is what is considered 'ideal' from the weapons producers..

    One can experience a momentary "scalar" effect from a HMEP microwave signal if it bounces around a bit, and at that point the signal becomes highly bio-active, scrambling or shorting out nervous systems. 'They' don't want that talked about; so what we see in the 5G threads talking about dangers, the dangers come from when the signal's multi-path, or go "scalar".. A million watt pulse of HPEM going multi-path scalar is one of the OMG weapons. It isn't the lower powered 450 megahertz and up stuff that doesn't heat up anything that is worrisome.. That is the distraction being perpetrated.. It isn't the direct RF (radio frequency signals) from your cellphone or router or modem.. Nor the DIRECT low powered signals from cellphone towers, or that which leaks from your microwave oven (if you have one).. It is when those microwave short-wavelength signals bounce around in TISSUE (or anything that will absorb such) that bioactivity, and damage of DNA can happen. Again, its the multi-path bouncing that is bioactive.. (THAT is what they are pushing so hard to distract us all from)..

    My guess would be if the nose specifically got burned on the inside, due to the "cavity size" of the nose, the microwave field was based on a frequency of about 10-30 gigahertz. Which could also be from a weather radar system that one may have been in the beam of, or possibly a ground mapping radar system for navigation. In either situation, that shouldn't happen normally with proper "safe" power levels.. If it were a weapons test tho.. testing weapons on civilians it seems to me would be of a grave concern. One other point though with a report of the outside of the nose and eye were "burned" that seems like an infra-red laser beam was used, and one was either accidentally attacked, if that laser system was being used for surveillance or ground terrain mapping. (there are current articles on the Military being very concerned by laser weapons use and are looking for countermeasures for such).

    But, on topic, I believe what took out Hal's electronics most likely would be describable as a HPEM weapon, and most likely mounted on a stealthy helicopter. Now who would be rogue enough to do that to a civilian is the question I feel one should ask, and who'd fly such a thing around and "get away with it"... ?
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    Believe it or not, I actually understood everything you said. However, it started with a small "hole" on the outside of my nose which grew into the worst rash the dermatologist had ever seen, which grew and then the damage migrated into my left eye and I actually had a small hole in the cornea. That didn't heal until someone prescribed some antibiotic eye drops.

    But, whatever I had made me weak as a puppy and sick for weeks.

    As for the scalar aspect, my I.Q. was off the charts during this time (not anymore) and I knew I had been hit with it. Prior to this, I didn't even know the phrase scalar.

    I always appreciate your technical knowledge. Thank you.

    P.S. I guess they wuv me too.
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    WaPo Journalist Kashoggi was CIA Asset!
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    Sunday, 14 October 2018 14:11

    Word from my former colleagues in the Intelligence Community (I won't reveal from which country) say that (apparently murdered) Washington Post contributing journalist Jamal Kashoggi was, in fact, a CIA asset.

    Oh, and get this: . . . the ALLEGATIONS are that he - and other CIA assets in the Saudi Royal Court -- were allegedly "outed" by . . . Jared Kushner!

    According to well placed intelligence sources, the CIA threw a fit after Kushner returned from Saudi Arabia and accused Kushner of "Treason" as CIA assets started being arrested in the Kingdom. Most were detained in the Ritz-Carlton and either beaten, tortured, or forced to fork-over BILLIONS to regain their freedom.

    On October 2nd, 2018, Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi was allegedly killed inside Saudi Arabia’s embassy in Turkey. The sequence of events seems to show that the murder was premeditated. T

    .wo days before his death, Khashoggi went to the Saudi embassy in Istanbul to obtain documents pertaining to his divorce in preparation to remarry in the United States. The Saudi embassy instructed him to return on October 2nd to collect the documents, which he duly did. He entered the embassy around 1pm on October 2nd but never exited. Khashoggi’s fiancée, after waiting several hours, raised the alarm as Khashoggi had instructed her to do should he not reemerge after two hours.

    It is from here that we should start to reconstruct this story that resembles a science-fiction novel even by Saudi standards, a country that does not hesitate to kidnap heads of state, as was the case with the Lebanese prime minister, Saad Hariri, about a year ago.

    Jamal Khashoggi is a controversial figure, a representative of the shadowy world of collaboration that sometimes exists between journalism and the intelligence agencies, in this case involving the intelligence agencies of Saudi Arabia and the United States. It has been virtually confirmed by official circles within the Al Saud family that Khashoggi was an agent in the employ of Riyadh and the CIA during the Soviet presence in Afghanistan.

    From 1991 to 1999, he continued to serve in several countries like Afghanistan, Algeria, Sudan, Kuwait and other parts of the Middle East, often maintaining an ambiguous role in the service of his friend Turki Faisal Al-Saud, the future Saudi ambassador to Washington and London and later supreme head of Saudi intelligence for 24 years.

    Khashoggi was named editor of the leading English-language magazine in Saudi Arabia, Arab News, from 1999 to 2003. In late 2003, he transferred to Al Watan, one of the most liberal, Western and pro-reform newspapers in the country. His job lasted only 52 days, with him being removed strongly criticizing the Wahhabi clerical extremist Ibn Taymiyyah. Khashoggi had turned into a critical voice of the Saudi regime following the internal struggles between King Abdullah and Turki Faisal Al-Saud.

    One of the main criticisms of Khashoggi coming from factions loyal to Abdullah was that he had recruited and paid several journalists on behalf of the CIA during his time as an editor. Such an accusation would conform with the widespread practice of the CIA seeking to influence the media, and therefore public opinion, and to put pressure on leaders failing to do what Washington wants.

    To fully understand what has led to the disappearance of Khashoggi, it is important to dissect the career of Turki bin Faisal Al-Saud, Khashoggi’s political protector.

    During the reign of King Khalid (1975-1982), Turki bin Faisal Al-Saud was at the center of relations between Washington and Saudi Arabia, committed to inflicting as much damage as possible on the USSR while it was in Afghanistan, with the help of foreign fighters (those who later became known as Al Qaeda) armed by Pakistan and financed by the Saudis. Following the end of the war in Afghanistan in 1982, Fahd bin Abdulaziz Al Saud became king until 2005. During this period, Faisal became a respected man within Saudi intelligence, leading to him becoming the undisputed leader. He was removed from his post on May 24, 2001, a few months before September 11, 2001. The connections he had with Osama bin Laden, following the attacks of September 11, 2001, continued to hound the Turki bin Faisal in subsequent years, even being sued by relatives of 9/11 victims in a multimillion-dollar lawsuit directed at him and other Saudi operatives. From 2003 to 2005, Turki bin Faisal served as ambassador to the UK, emphasizing his role as a leading Saudi in the international community, and came across Khashoggi, taking him under his wing as a personal advisor.

    In the ensuing years there was an explosive internal fracture within the Kingdom, accentuated by the death in 2005 of King Abdulaziz Al Saud, who was succeeded by King Abdullah until 2015.

    In 2005, Turki bin Faisal was appointed Saudi ambassador to the US during the Bush administration, with Khashoggi accompanying him as a media advisor. During this period, Khashoggi became one of the strongest supporters of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, invoking diplomatic discussions between Riyadh and Tehran and travelling to over 37 American states to explain his point of view. While advancing the interests of the Saudi regime bent on Wahhabism, while at the same time being a friend to Israeli Zionism and the American neocons, Turki bin Faisal took a less extremist position, one more directed towards dialogue. For these reasons, he was not often received at the White House during his reign as ambassador, with the US administration openly preferring the extremist Bandar bin Sultan (a great friend of the Bush family) to the apparently moderate Turki bin Faisal.

    The natural result was that King Abdullah excluded him more and more from the main meetings that occurred between the Saudis and the Americans. Finally, bin Faisal resigned in protest. He was succeeded by Bandar bin Sultan.

    Back to Khashoggi. It is important to note that after his departure from Al Watan he moved to London and became a senior advisor in Turki bin Faisal’s team. During Turki bin Faisal’s ambassadorship in Washington, Khashoggi assumed the position of head of press relations, coming into direct contact with major national and international organs of US media.

    In the years following Turki bin Faisal’s ambassadorship in Washington, Khashoggi became a new publisher of the liberal Saudi newspaper Al Watan, publishing an article that was highly critical of the Saudi clerics and of Salafism in general. A few days later, he was again forced to resign and left the newspaper. It was after this event that Khashoggi came into direct contact with Al-Waleed bin Talal, one of the richest men in Saudi Arabia, who had been appointed director of the Al Arab news channel based in Bahrain. The news channel sought to offer an impartial and objective view of events in the Middle East and in Saudi Arabia. As director of Al Arab, he often released statements and interviews for international organs like the BBC, ABC News, Al Jazeera and Dubai TV. In recent years, he became a recurring guest on Al Jazeera and had a weekly column in The Washington Post.

    What happened to Khashoggi is the story not so much of a dissident as of a struggle within the highly complicated Zionist-Saudi-Neoconservative nexus that is intertwined with the struggle against the neoliberal component of US imperialism. It is a story that deserves to be fully explored to understand the behind-the-scenes struggles that afflict US politics, the hypocrisy of the media when it comes to the Saudi dictatorship, and the ambiguous role of Turkey.

    Returning to Khashoggi, it was during the Obama presidency that the journalist played a primary role in encouraging important reforms in Saudi Arabia as being essential to the survival of the Kingdom. During this time, relations between Riyadh and Washington steadily worsened for many reasons, primarily in regard to diverging policies on Egypt and Syria as well as on human rights in Saudi Arabia.

    Many in the Saudi royal family suspected that Obama was willing to use the Arab springs to get rid of the Al Saud family in Saudi Arabia. The relationship between Riyadh and Washington subsequently sunk to an all-time low. Khashoggi was the spearhead of this media and political strategy against Riyadh. An intimate friend of the royal family who ends up publicly criticizing them causes quite a stir, selling copies and drawing attention to what he writes.

    Keep in mind that we are splitting the atom of the Saudi universe. But it should never be forgotten that we are talking about a regime that tortures and kills its fellow citizens as well foreigners. It is a regime that creates terrorism as a weapon used to further its own political goals. These are not people burdened by moral scruples.

    Yet in spite of this, no country is monolithic in terms of those who hold the reigns of power, especially when it comes to foreign affairs. It is the competing views and internal struggles that determine the course of events, as with the case of Khashoggi’s death.

    During the Obama administration, the former Saudi intelligence man and intimate of the royals continued to work as a house organ linked to the US world of soft power (color revolutions, Arab Spring), the form of power that was particularly favored by the Obama administration as a new strategy to extend US imperialist domination following the disasters of Iraq and Afghanistan. The criticism of the Saudi royal family was constant, even though the journalist appreciated the role Riyadh played in the region, especially with regard to the aggression against Syria.

    In the following years, with the rise to power of King Salman, and especially after the victory of Donald Trump, everything changed for the worse in the region and for the “dissident” journalist. Bin Salman became the strongman holding power in Saudi Arabia, triggering, with a nod from Trump, a near war with Qatar, especially over the role of Al Jazeera, which often hosted Khashoggi and was increasingly critical of bin Salman and his vision for the Kingdom’s future (Vision 2030).

    During bin Salman’s campaign of repression, the King’s nephew took the opportunity to attack all his opponents, with many people close to Khashoggi being arrested, tortured and killed. His old acquaintance in particular, Al-Waleed bin Talal, was arrested and tortured, much to the displeasure of the West, given that he was one of the most famous Saudis abroad, being involved with companies like Twitter. In a climax of repression, even the Lebanese prime minister, Saad Hariri, was kidnapped and spirited to Riyadh to be re-educated over a number of days. Khashoggi sensed the looming danger, and in 2017 escaped from Saudi Arabia to settle in the United States.

    Khashoggi continued with his columns criticizing the Saudi regime, attacking its campaign in Yemen on Al Jazeera, and accusing bin Salman of being anything but a positive revolutionary for the Kingdom. Khashoggi’s criticism pointed to the lack of democracy as well as the sclerosis at the top in the Saudi kingdom, accusations that bin Salman chafed at, finally deciding to be rid of the journalist.

    The events in Istanbul are the culmination of a grotesque situation whereby Donald Trump has granted a free hand to his two close allies in the region, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Analyzing the actions of these two countries over the last 24 months, the extent of Washington’s carte blanche has become clear.

    We could venture into fanciful speculation about Khashoggi’s death, citing anonymous Saudi sources; or we could simply come to the most obvious conclusion. Khashoggi was arrested in the embassy before being tortured, killed and dismembered by about 15 Saudi operatives who arrived in Istanbul on a day flight from Riyadh and departed a few hours after Khashoggi’s killing.

    It is hard to believe that the Turkish services, which have always played the double- and triple-crossing game, did not know what was happening. Khashoggi himself had probably received assurances that the Saudi embassy in Istanbul was a safe place to collect the documents. He was obviously betrayed by someone in whom he had strong trust.

    Turkey is a strong ally of Qatar and plays a major role in the region. Relations between Riyadh and Ankara have not been the best in recent years, but their common interests in the region are so high that it is not surprising that Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization has closed more than one eye to allow Khashoggi’s assassination and the exit of the 15 operatives. Besides, Erdogan was well aware of the problems that this story would have created between the United States and Saudi Arabia, especially within the ranks of the liberal media of the US establishment.

    The problems flowing from this settling of internal accounts are manifold. They range from the indignation of such mainstream media as The Washington Post, CNN and ABC News that are beginning to reveal grisly details about Khashoggi’s death, even if they treat the news with detachment, not openly attributing blame to Riyadh. Saudi money from various lobbies dampens the effect of such media attention, succeeding in dissuading direct accusations of Saudi involvement in Khashoggi’s disappearance.

    The more time that passes the more obvious it becomes how Khashoggi was killed in the Saudi consulate on the orders of bin Salman as a critic of the Kingdom. At some point, the mainstream media will no longer be able to cover up for the Saudis. It all comes down to the possibility of plausible deniability or legitimate justification. Both these elements are difficult for the US to employ in this case.

    The upshot is an explosive situation that threatens to further isolate Israel, Saudi Arabia and the United States from the rest of the world. Thus the White House had to even express in an official note confusion and concern, asking the Saudis to provide real evidence of Khashoggi’s exit from the Saudi consulate. We must also consider that Riyadh planned to blame Turkey for the disappearance of the journalist, stating that, having come out from the embassy, ​​the disappearance was the fault of Turkey.

    It is not surprising, therefore, that Erdogan has insisted that “the burden of demonstrating how Khashoggi is still alive belongs to Saudi Arabia.” Even the tour of the consulate offered to foreign journalists has failed to silence what seems too obvious. Riyadh overreached following Trump’s wink and nod, eliminating an uncomfortable voice that was also very close to Riyadh’s geopolitical enemies like Qatar as well the US neoliberal faction (linked to Obama and to the faction close to the Muslim Brotherhood, outlawed in Saudi Arabia because it presents itself as a political alternative to the state religion of Wahhabism).

    In an series of reckless actions, the last 12 months have seen all sorts of provocations from Israel, the US and Saudi Arabia. There was the downing of a Russian Il-20 through the intentionally reckless maneuvers of Israeli pilots, the more than 200 bombings on the sovereign state of Syria, cooperation with Riyadh in the war in Yemen, the threats to Hezbollah and Iran that Netanyahu even proclaimed in front of the United Nations General Assembly. Saudi Arabia even managed to do worse, with the abduction of the Lebanese prime minister, the continued funding of extremists like Daesh and al Qaeda, the nefarious actions against Qatar and Iran, the bombing of Yemen, and recently the killing of a journalist in a Saudi embassy. For its part, the US in recent days has made two unthinkable declarations, namely, threatening a first strike against Moscow to eliminate some military weaponry, as well as a naval blockade to prevent energy exports.

    With the Khashoggi incident and the ensuing media outcry, the ideological hatred of the mainstream media against Trump and the increasingly precarious situation of Netanyahu (accused of corruption, with his wife also being investigated), it should not be surprising if this latest incident only serves as ammunition in the political war amongst the elite that shows no signs of subsiding and is instead growing in intensity by the day.

    One of the last alliances that the United States has available to influence events in the Middle East risks falling apart as a result of bin Salman’s ill-advised actions. Erdogan has already challenged the Saudis by asking them to prove that the journalist is alive. There is open speculation in the Kingdom about the implications of the clash between Ankara and Riyadh and between bin Salman and Erdogan. There are those who are willing to bet that this latest reckless action could prove fatal for the ruler who, after just a year and a half, seems to have exhausted his whole store of experience as the Kingdom’s young despot.

    My sources also ALLEGE that Saudi Crown Prince MBS "is absolutely desperate to buy-off Turk President Erdogan." According to the Turkish Ambassador to Lebanon, Hakan Cakil, MBS “has offered to pay $5 billion in bribes to President Erdogan to drop the investigation into Khashoggi’s fate.”

    So now you know how the "joint Turkish-Saudi" team will "investigate" what really happened. Or not.

    This is an offer Erdogan CAN refuse. He may ask for a MUCH bigger pound of flesh."


    And also this:

    The narrative presently being espoused in the dark world of intelligence ALLEGES that

    "Jared Kushner alerted MBS that Khashoggi was a danger.
    Other CIA ops were already in uproar when MBS pulled his Ritz-Carlton jail stunt - accusing Jared of TREASON: giving away CIA files on dissidents in the royal family which were CIA agents. That led to their deaths or arrests or at least forking out billions.
    This is the real game: civil war at the top. The Trump clan vs. the CIA. Everything else is smoke and mirrors."

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