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    I think I should add that even if everything in the article discussed in my post above turns out to be valid info, I personally don't feel that it lets Kavanaugh off the hook, by any means.
    My perspective continues to be that this trauma drama is a good example of two factions of the elite warring for control, and neither is innocent.
    The fact that the theme of the conflict has to do with what the US is already so focused on, namely power and relations between the sexes, is also very karmic, however, even if it has been deliberately managed.
    That makes it no less tragic or painful or destructive, at least until we step back and see it all from a more cosmic view, and the way in which it may force us to fully face the big issues playing out that are so difficult to confront, both as individuals and as members of society.
    It's not about taking sides, it's so much bigger than that.
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    this whole thing nothing more than chess game..some of the question could need to be ask such as the supreme court or Brett Kav that Dems trying to stop? distraction from who? how this related to metoo movement? psyop? i heard Brett Kav is right wing pro-business, what big corporation thinks? they trying to get him in?

    we are much more than that not following mainstream BS..what this meant to be below the surface?
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    People are saying McConnel suggested that Trump not nominate Kavanaugh just because of his history and background but Trump listened to him and found out more and did it anyway. One has to wonder since Trump has been going after sexual deviants since the first day he took office if maybe he didn't just get rid of one the only way he knew how. By parading him before the public and letting them see what he was. I understand Kavanaugh's life is ruined and the school doesn't even want him to come back. The students don't want him back apparently. So his life is ruined. If they give a soft offer to back out which I expect they have effectively ruined his career. Where will he go? Some are thinking Trump simply set up a sexual deviant to remove him. Thoughts?
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    i was wondering what Brett Kav has that GOP really into him? Bush nominated him and also Kav listed in Romney court pick for 2012..now Trump.

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    I think I should add that even if everything in the article discussed in my post above turns out to be valid info, I personally don't feel that it lets Kavanaugh off the hook, by any means.
    My perspective continues to be that this trauma drama is a good example of two factions of the elite warring for control, and neither is innocent.
    The fact that the theme of the conflict has to do with what the US is already so focused on, namely power and relations between the sexes, is also very karmic, however, even if it has been deliberately managed.
    That makes it no less tragic or painful or destructive, at least until we step back and see it all from a more cosmic view, and the way in which it may force us to fully face the big issues playing out that are so difficult to confront, both as individuals and as members of society.
    It's not about taking sides, it's so much bigger than that.

    I agree that it's so much bigger than that, but I don't agree that it's not about taking a side.


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    one thing i don't get..now keep hearing attack on the left and socialist, is this psyop? have the country more divided? considered my self socialist alike want our kids live in star trek kind of society.

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    People are saying McConnel suggested that Trump not nominate Kavanaugh just because of his history and background but Trump listened to him and found out more and did it anyway. One has to wonder since Trump has been going after sexual deviants since the first day he took office if maybe he didn't just get rid of one the only way he knew how. By parading him before the public and letting them see what he was. I understand Kavanaugh's life is ruined and the school doesn't even want him to come back. The students don't want him back apparently. So his life is ruined. If they give a soft offer to back out which I expect they have effectively ruined his career. Where will he go? Some are thinking Trump simply set up a sexual deviant to remove him. Thoughts?

    I'm starting to feel what we watched in Ford was not a victim but a CIA operative in action. Good actors can make good agents and vice verse. She has family background with Intel, she has been well primed before she even met the attorneys.

    The cabal of dems, rogue intel and media have been at this for awhile now. What the comey and stroke investigations et al reveal was the surreptitious workings behind the scenes but they have now taken their show center stage. She is a very good agent/actress.

    Will most americans be hip to this? no way. In fact many will embrace the law of the jungle that the dems are unleashing while 'good' people will watch longingly for a hero to restore rule of law...

    The globalist families have been trying to take their 'colony' back since 1776.
    After this week, I've shaken the micro event off me, woke myself up and I'm back to the macro view - The infiltration since JFK has been so great. Is it too late for us?

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    If taking a side means taking the side of the human race as opposed to the elite and their controllers, then yes, it's about taking a side.
    Taking a side between liberal and conservative at this point is just going to prolong the agony, though the majority don't yet realize that.
    Yet it may be a necessary part of the process of getting to that realization.
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I think I should add that even if everything in the article discussed in my post above turns out to be valid info, I personally don't feel that it lets Kavanaugh off the hook, by any means.
    My perspective continues to be that this trauma drama is a good example of two factions of the elite warring for control, and neither is innocent.
    The fact that the theme of the conflict has to do with what the US is already so focused on, namely power and relations between the sexes, is also very karmic, however, even if it has been deliberately managed.
    That makes it no less tragic or painful or destructive, at least until we step back and see it all from a more cosmic view, and the way in which it may force us to fully face the big issues playing out that are so difficult to confront, both as individuals and as members of society.
    It's not about taking sides, it's so much bigger than that.

    I agree that it's so much bigger than that, but I don't agree that it's not about taking a side.


    The liberation of the human race, at this time, very much requires a commitment to take a side. It won't happen without it. The confusion around how we identify the side we are on is where the current battle is.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    If taking a side means taking the side of the human race as opposed to the elite and their off controllers, then yes, it's about taking a side.
    Taking a side between liberal and conservative at this point is just going to prolong the agony, though the majority don't yet realize that.
    Yet it may be a necessary part of the process of getting to that realization.
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I think I should add that even if everything in the article discussed in my post above turns out to be valid info, I personally don't feel that it lets Kavanaugh off the hook, by any means.
    My perspective continues to be that this trauma drama is a good example of two factions of the elite warring for control, and neither is innocent.
    The fact that the theme of the conflict has to do with what the US is already so focused on, namely power and relations between the sexes, is also very karmic, however, even if it has been deliberately managed.
    That makes it no less tragic or painful or destructive, at least until we step back and see it all from a more cosmic view, and the way in which it may force us to fully face the big issues playing out that are so difficult to confront, both as individuals and as members of society.
    It's not about taking sides, it's so much bigger than that.

    I agree that it's so much bigger than that, but I don't agree that it's not about taking a side.


    The liberation of the human race, at this time, very much requires a commitment to take a side. It won't happen without it. The confusion around how we identify the side we are on is where the current battle is.
    Yes people have been manipulated into taking sides since for ever,
    Thats how all wars large and little came about.
    Im with onawah on this.
    Of course we live in a world of duality--opposites prevail--two sides of the same coin --you cant have one without the other.
    For my money the only way forward for the human race is an evolution of consciousness and I hope this is coming about.


    This hearing is just a symptom of the current level of evolution.

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    Quote Because the press and democrats attack this guy, it makes you forget hes a life long deep state lawyer.
    Has ruled the cia can kidnap americans and the victims cannot sue.
    Has been in the swamp as long as long as most here have been alive.
    But now hes a hero and we are outraged he is being treated so poorly.
    had a thought few days ago especially saw that moment ago about Brett Kav past being a Laywer,

    i'm conflicted, i'm not supporting sexual assault case but what happen if Kav get in? could america get more worst? it's like you know he's a bad guy and the actions to stop him is unethical or unmoral, could you let it happen? both party are the same coins.

    i haven't come to conclusion regarding but from i heard so far about Kav are negative...

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    If taking a side means taking the side of the human race as opposed to the elite and their controllers, then yes, it's about taking a side.
    Taking a side between liberal and conservative at this point is just going to prolong the agony, though the majority don't yet realize that.
    Yet it may be a necessary part of the process of getting to that realization.
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I think I should add that even if everything in the article discussed in my post above turns out to be valid info, I personally don't feel that it lets Kavanaugh off the hook, by any means.
    My perspective continues to be that this trauma drama is a good example of two factions of the elite warring for control, and neither is innocent.
    The fact that the theme of the conflict has to do with what the US is already so focused on, namely power and relations between the sexes, is also very karmic, however, even if it has been deliberately managed.
    That makes it no less tragic or painful or destructive, at least until we step back and see it all from a more cosmic view, and the way in which it may force us to fully face the big issues playing out that are so difficult to confront, both as individuals and as members of society.
    It's not about taking sides, it's so much bigger than that.

    I agree that it's so much bigger than that, but I don't agree that it's not about taking a side.


    The liberation of the human race, at this time, very much requires a commitment to take a side. It won't happen without it. The confusion around how we identify the side we are on is where the current battle is.
    The way I see the dilemma is that we are all quite pressurised to make an 'idealistic' statement ( mainly to signal who we are, to others we hope are allies ) and almost shout it from our rooftop.

    That's where they get us every time.

    The battle, is a super pragmatic challenge that will upset every vested ideology on the planet before it's complete, and we win.
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    I also experienced sexual abuse as a child. My grandfather, minister of our lutheran church, and great-grandfather, abused me, my sister, cousins, neighbor children, and so on. I know what this looks like and how perpetrators explain away and try to defend themselves.

    Based on my own experience, I believe Dr. Ford was sexually abused. However, Ford seems much more like a victim of systemic abuse, along the lines of MKUltra, than the victim of a single episode. Her childlike and scattered demeanor suggests a person who has struggled to keep things together her entire life. Her unreliable memory and erratic testimony could easily be a natural outgrowth of trauma. My impression of her is that she is very fragile, almost hollow. She seems like someone who is looking for another person to define her, to tell her what to do. She’s a good wife, friend and mother, fulfilling the desired projections of others. Her immediate family has been largely unavailable for comment, which reinforces my suspicion that there is much more here than meets the eye.

    Pervasive abuse severely damages a person’s mental coherence, making him or her susceptible to suggestion and manipulation. I think Ford was selected and groomed for her role. Unwittingly. That thought absolutely terrifies me. If this is the case, the Kavanaugh hearing is a witch trial, of the worst kind.

    I found Kavanaugh highly believable. My sister and I confronted the pedophiles who assaulted us and others. Not one responded as Kavanaugh did. Having been a victim of this kind of abuse, one becomes fairly adept at reading unspoken body language. It’s a defense mechanism. Kavanaugh didn’t strike me as someone who was trying to avoid, equivocate or escape but as someone who was absolutely horrified by the accusations and filled with moral outrage. He did not waiver in his opening statement and was justifiably beside himself.

    Can any one of us imagine what it would feel like to he falsely accused, tried and convicted on the basis of one person’s unsubstantiated allegations? If we allow this man to be destroyed because of these unsubstantiated allegations, we don’t deserve the constitutional due process we have been afforded. And, this slippery slope will certainly continue to erode what’s left of our civil liberties. These are very dangerous times indeed.

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    Norski, all of your post was excellent. This is what I tried to explain earlier but not nearly as eloquently as you did. It is also what I observed and felt in my gut:

    Quote Kavanaugh didn’t strike me as someone who was trying to avoid, equivocate or escape but as someone who was absolutely horrified by the accusations and filled with moral outrage. He did not waiver in his opening statement and was justifiably beside himself.
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    @Norski - thank you for such an intelligent and objective response. And at the end of the day after what you went through you can still see and be concerned with a larger picture.

    I woke up today weirdly distanced from the entire trauma-rama-drama and it feels good.
    I just don't see her as a victim. I feel she's had enough amoral role models and models of self-aggrandizement to have left that incident behind long, long ago. It's a sham to me.

    Those of us older grew up learning about battles, their names and dates and the dramas surrounding them. The Art of War has changed in style but it's wargames nevertheless. I'd bet my next paycheck she is an intel agent/asset.

    I believe the country is, has been under attack for a long time and it's coming to a head. I have no trouble seeing those who planned Project Ford as totally willing and capable of shredding the constitution. It's very real to me.

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    60 minutes is getting ready to start. They have a segment on the Kavanaugh hearing. I'm going to have a listen.

    Me too, Helene.
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    Quote Posted by norski (here)
    I also experienced sexual abuse as a child. My grandfather, minister of our lutheran church, and great-grandfather, abused me, my sister, cousins, neighbor children, and so on. I know what this looks like and how perpetrators explain away and try to defend themselves.

    Based on my own experience, I believe Dr. Ford was sexually abused. However, Ford seems much more like a victim of systemic abuse, along the lines of MKUltra, than the victim of a single episode. Her childlike and scattered demeanor suggests a person who has struggled to keep things together her entire life. Her unreliable memory and erratic testimony could easily be a natural outgrowth of trauma. My impression of her is that she is very fragile, almost hollow. She seems like someone who is looking for another person to define her, to tell her what to do. She’s a good wife, friend and mother, fulfilling the desired projections of others. Her immediate family has been largely unavailable for comment, which reinforces my suspicion that there is much more here than meets the eye.

    Pervasive abuse severely damages a person’s mental coherence, making him or her susceptible to suggestion and manipulation. I think Ford was selected and groomed for her role. Unwittingly. That thought absolutely terrifies me. If this is the case, the Kavanaugh hearing is a witch trial, of the worst kind.

    I found Kavanaugh highly believable. My sister and I confronted the pedophiles who assaulted us and others. Not one responded as Kavanaugh did. Having been a victim of this kind of abuse, one becomes fairly adept at reading unspoken body language. It’s a defense mechanism. Kavanaugh didn’t strike me as someone who was trying to avoid, equivocate or escape but as someone who was absolutely horrified by the accusations and filled with moral outrage. He did not waiver in his opening statement and was justifiably beside himself.

    Can any one of us imagine what it would feel like to he falsely accused, tried and convicted on the basis of one person’s unsubstantiated allegations? If we allow this man to be destroyed because of these unsubstantiated allegations, we don’t deserve the constitutional due process we have been afforded. And, this slippery slope will certainly continue to erode what’s left of our civil liberties. These are very dangerous times indeed.
    very well said and once again prove that firsthand experience should be the point of choice when connecting the dots not Tv shows and the likes.

    My honest question since you and of course me strongly believe, that we cant allow this man to be destroyed because of these unsubstantiated allegations? What do you suggest the action we should take. You see its not a question of inaction anymore, I believe there is enough number of people that is willing to jump into action anytime, but like many others almost all of the others are uncertain of the course of action of choice?

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    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)

    The human species has a bad track record of letting the aggressive among them take charge while the rest murmur under their breaths.
    Sadly I'm one of those murmuring and don't want to 'do' anything but watch and hope for truth to triumph. Bongino would have contempt for me....
    I can not agree more Helene, That is why I choose to speak up my mind on many occasions at the risk of being labeled anti social. Well this sorta thoughts bothers me the least nowadays I have become immune I mean more immune but not totally. In my brain there is a group in avalon which I labeled real truthers. Thats where I put you. This group I admire love and all the goodies I can think of Often times I use this group as a barometer of truth. Well I dont have that coherent brain and I am poor at english to discern. So I normally go with this group whenever I am uncertain I can pat by back with this smart S*** it makes life a lot easier for me to discern the truth the real truth because the real truthers do it for me whit an added bonus of knowing some of the trolls around. well when someone normally or often times disagree with people on my thruthest list that person is a troll to me. on my truthest list are the likes of Dennis,Daozen,Ernie; Paula;Jayke; wave;Satori: yoyoyo: Foxie; valerie; DNA;Norski; Greybeard; gohsthrider.... well toooooo many to remember and mention I love you all guys.

    So again.... the big question come. What course of action do we do since We can not allow all this madness to continue? Do we tell people and try to educate them about their wrong beliefs and the correct ours? Do you see a glimpse of success there? Do we go to the streets and be physical? The ones that we are trying to fight are the support system of the elite...... its not the elite... once this lines of support system is destroyed the 1% percent is at your mercy. What and who are the support system. Can you think of the brainwash and program sheeples our own kind which has become a cancer due to the toxic influence that landed on earth. What would it take to reform them, so that the support system collapse??? we cant fight them.. if we do the best that we can hope for would be the efficacy of chemotherapy.

    I think everyone can agree that the law of attraction or the low of contagion is at play all the times maybe its best to be what you want them to be, I mean be something that they can only dream of that way we become the more potent contagion........ I mean its there we only need to put it into action.

    By the way I can spot also the lies because thats what the trolls use to promote.... and of course their association the trolls ....Damn if we are trying to expose the 1% better start with their stooges on avalon. They have successfully steered this site to the same garbage we want nothing to do with its a disgrace indeed. There is your answer as to why this forum is no longer as good as before. We allowed it.
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    on my truthest list are the likes of Dennis, Daozen, Ernie; Paula; Jayke; wave; Satori: yoyoyo: Foxie; valerie; DNA; Norski; Greybeard; ghostrider.... well toooooo many to remember and mention I love you all guys.
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    Just finished watching 60 minutes ..... worth a watch https://streamplay.to/snx0m7ahx37x close all the pop-ups snd pop-unders

    Push .. " Proceed to Video " ....at bottom of screen not the arrow, it's used for advertisements .
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