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    Default Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

    Hi all,

    in the last week or so my gmail Email account has been severely compromisied; can't access it anymore despite help from a PC Doc- any wonder?- I access many controversial websites (like we all do on this forum)-

    but Germany is THE land of censorship-

    could anyone on this forum please, please recommend an Email account/address that is internationaly recognized, reliable and non-compromisable? (if that's possible)-

    here in Germany we only get gmx.net (used to be gmx.de) or Yahoo crap;

    please inform; I need help-

    many thanks in advance-

    Larry :-)

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    Default Re: Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    Hi all,

    in the last week or so my gmail Email account has been severely compromisied; can't access it anymore despite help from a PC Doc- any wonder?- I access many controversial websites (like we all do on this forum)-

    but Germany is THE land of censorship-

    could anyone on this forum please, please recommend an Email account/address that is internationaly recognized, reliable and non-compromisable? (if that's possible)-

    here in Germany we only get gmx.net (used to be gmx.de) or Yahoo crap;

    please inform; I need help-

    many thanks in advance-

    Larry :-)
    Have a look at this : https://www.startmail.com/en/
    I use Ixquick search engine instead of Google & they have a totally private email set -up too. True, you have to pay for it, but what price peace? You can have a free trial first. See what you think. Good luck!
    Last edited by Mari; 12th October 2018 at 20:40.

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    Hi Larry,

    take a look at Proton Mail: https://protonmail.com

    Automatic Email Security
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    I've been a user for a couple of years now and I find it to be an excellent platform. There are a host of great security features, such as being able to set an auto-destruct should your sent mail not be read in a time-period of your choosing, being able to double pad-lock mail, etc, etc. The lay-out and design of the platform is superb and ease of use.

    Check it out, I'm sure you'll be impressed.
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    Default Re: Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

    I know this is off topic, but I love the way people on this forum help each other.

    I can't even believe, would never have thought the day would come, the censorship we are all living with.

    Stay well, Larry.
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    Default Re: Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

    mail.riseup.net is run by a small group of hackers.
    For free society!

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    Default Re: Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

    Hi all-

    many thanks so far to all of you for your greatly appreciated input but there simply has to be a reliable Email outlet out there that dosen't require money; any more suggestions?- please help-

    Larry

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    Default Re: Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

    @Hughe

    "mail.riseup.net is run by a small group of hackers"- so how could this info be of help to either me or anyone else?- unless to warn us where NOT to go-

    Larry

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    Default Re: Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

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    @Hughe

    "mail.riseup.net is run by a small group of hackers"- so how could this info be of help to either me or anyone else?- unless to warn us where NOT to go-

    Larry
    The word "hacker" is not being used in a negative context here. More like "very bright, very very computer savvy."

    I think that we are seeing the cyberworld dropping the pretense of "free" email. The server space for 'free' email accounts has to be paid for by someone, which is either us or some large malevolent corporation that siphons data and sells demographic data and/or makes money from advertising.


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    Default Re: Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

    Basic ProtonMail, which I have, is free Larry.

    Maybe process the data people have provided properly, take your time, and I'm sure that what you require has been provided by the good folks who have responded to your request.

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    Hi all,

    in the last week or so my gmail Email account has been severely compromisied; can't access it anymore despite help from a PC Doc- any wonder?- I access many controversial websites (like we all do on this forum)-

    but Germany is THE land of censorship-

    could anyone on this forum please, please recommend an Email account/address that is internationaly recognized, reliable and non-compromisable? (if that's possible)-

    here in Germany we only get gmx.net (used to be gmx.de) or Yahoo crap;

    please inform; I need help-

    many thanks in advance-

    Larry :-)
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    Default Re: Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

    Another satisfied Protonmail user here. It is a little bit slower but that is because it is encrypted. One can get it for free, but I happily have the paid version.

    When you sign up on Gmail, you sign an agreement that they [Google] own all your email, even if you delete it!!! So, if you accountant e-mails you your tax forms, Google can sell that info to someone. If someone is suing you, Google could, theoretically, sell them your private email correspondence and it could be used against you in a court of law because it is property that has been purchased. So, I would never, never, never use a lawyer or accountant or other professional that uses Gmail. (Full disclosure, I, myself, only stopped using it two years ago.)

    So congratulations on getting one evil corporation out of your life.

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    Default Re: Deleting Gmail - then afterwards, I need help

    Generally there is little or nothing that can be done to secure your computer if alphabet soup agencies want access.
    Since the 90's backdoors have been built into the hardware. Perhaps some surplus military laptops "may" be free of that problem.

    Encryption and "private" email options may secure you from advertisers, basic tracking and some basic hacking/snooping.
    Same with alt OS software like Linux........it helps but is not a cure-all for privacy concerns.

    My new laptop is MUCH slower than my 13 year old system.....likely because it is spending most of its time dealing with 100 different demands on its "attention" to "report" what I'm doing to 100 different agencies and organizations.
    My GIGABYT connection is also SLOWER than my 5 mb connection from a decade ago.....

    I believe there is a very well researched thread on these topics posted earlier this week here on Avalon.

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    On the recommendation from Richard Dolan recently, I am trying the basic free version of CTemplar email, & it's running just fine for me.
    https://ctemplar.com/

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    I just want to thank all of you "guys and dolls" on Avalon for your tremendous and helpful input-

    greatly appreciated :-)

    Larry

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