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    Alex Jones is saying that this is a coordinated invasion of America plan, deliberately, and timed, by the UN and Alexander Soros in cahoots with Obama and his stay-behind shadow government. (Alexander Soros is the son of billionaire George Soros and Susan Weber Soros )

    The MSM is currently under stating the numbers and waiting for the caravan to storm the US border, around the time of the mid term elections, before unleashing a media storm as tens of thousands of (quite healthy looking) famine/poverty refugees provide the optics for a democrat win.


    Thousands of migrants have arrived at the Mexico-Guatemala border, with some climbing over the fence separating the two countries. US President Donald Trump has threatened to close the US-Mexico border and call in the military.



    Photos posted online show some of the migrants breaking down the fence's gate and continuing towards the border bridge.


    Mexican television footage showed the migrants being met by dozens of riot police on the bridge who blocked them from entering Mexico. Some could be seen jumping into the river below to get around the block.


    More than 3,000 migrants are demanding they be let into Mexico, and ultimately through to the US, with many heard chanting “We want to work!”


    Others shouted, "We are not smugglers, we are immigrants!"

    Most of the migrants are from Honduras, but some have joined the caravan from other Central American countries.






    On Thursday, Trump referred to the caravan as an "assault on our country," citing "criminal elements and drugs pouring in." He encouraged Mexico to "stop this onslaught."


    He later thanked Mexico for sending police and riot gear to the Mexico-Guatemala border, saying that the US looks forward to working with the country.


    Earlier on Friday, Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray vowed to meet the “challenge” of the caravan, after holding talks with US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Mexico City.





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    The caravan has turned around at Mexican border. That’s good cause it would have gotten ugly if they came up here.

    https://nypost.com/2018/10/19/migran...und-in-mexico/

    https://www.hannity.com/media-room/c...nts-at-border/

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    The caravan has turned around at Mexican border. That’s good cause it would have gotten ugly if they came up here.

    https://nypost.com/2018/10/19/migran...und-in-mexico/
    From the quoted link:

    Quote President Trump has issued repeated threats to yank US aid to Honduras and deploy the US military to quash the caravan before it reaches the United States.
    What on earth did that mean?

    US military entering Mexico? Must have been quite a phone call, or Pompeo meeting.
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    Default Re: Thousands of US-bound, UN backed, migrants storm Guatemala-Mexico border

    The first step to equality and a better world is to dissolve borders and factions.

    "Imagine there's no heaven
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    No hell below us
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    Imagine all the people living for today
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    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will be as one
    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will be as one"

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    The first step to equality and a better world is to dissolve borders and factions.
    Factions, yes. Different cultures, no.

    And dissolving borders is what the EU has been trying to do for years, as a means of dissolving cultures.

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    Quote What on earth did that mean?
    It probably means don’t mess with the USA. We’re not going to tolerate any of the Cabal’s tricks, especially their devious ones where they shield their attempts with women and children. Sick!

    p.s. People get so caught up by their ideals and heart strings (just like the Cabal wants) and think everything should be open and free or whatever. Yet these same well intended people have no real functional real time and real world ideas of how to fix our world.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    The first step to equality and a better world is to dissolve borders and factions.
    Factions, yes. Different cultures, no.

    And dissolving borders is what the EU has been trying to do for years, as a means of dissolving cultures.
    yes Bill but what's in the culture anyway? popular beliefs and dogmas. I will go for dissolving cultures as well so that a new culture will be born. One that is base on mans primal instincts. something that is definitely different more likely opposite than the adulterated culture we have now. Mixture of cultures can be nasty at first but with the proper guides and guidance (the ones in power just right off will certainly take advantage of it.) Maybe the new era will usher us into a new common good culture. Dissolve borders and dissolve cultures make way for a better one... when we are ready

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    This only supports the "building walls" camp, why would Trump enemies be behind it?

    IMHO the usual baseless Alex Jones fear porn.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    The first step to equality and a better world is to dissolve borders and factions.
    Factions, yes. Different cultures, no.

    And dissolving borders is what the EU has been trying to do for years, as a means of dissolving cultures.
    I don’t know. From my perspective the US culture could stand some improvement. But that said we really don’t have culture here. Drive from Michigan to Florida and get off at any suburban exit and ask yourself where you are? Any town USA. And then there’s this.

    And if the US is going to Imperialistically plunder nations, should it not at the very least be required to offer asylum to the victims of its actions??

    https://medium.com/s/story/timeline-...a-a9bea9ebc148
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    yes Bill but what's in the culture anyway? popular beliefs and dogmas. I will go for dissolving cultures as well so that a new culture will be born.
    • History
    • Traditions and Customs
    • Music
    • Art
    • Stories
    • Language and Literature
    I'd suggest all of those are valuable. Ask any Native American, Tibetan, Aborigine, Maori, or San 'Bushman'. Or even a Scotsman, Irishman, or Catalan. Maybe even a Frenchman, currently living in Paris.

    Ask any Mayan priest who might have still been alive when ALL their books were being burned. (Just 3 or 4 remain.)

    From the point of view of the Spanish, they were just burning valueless 'beliefs and dogmas' as well.

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    yes Bill but what's in the culture anyway? popular beliefs and dogmas. I will go for dissolving cultures as well so that a new culture will be born.
    • History
    • Traditions and Customs
    • Music
    • Art
    • Stories
    • Language and Literature
    I'd suggest all of those are valuable. Ask any Native American, Tibetan, Aborigine, Maori, or San 'Bushman'. Or even a Scotsman, Irishman, or Catalan. Maybe even a Frenchman, currently living in Paris.

    Ask any Mayan priest who might have still been alive when ALL their books were being burned. (Just 3 or 4 remain.)

    From the point of view of the Spanish, they were just burning valueless 'beliefs and dogmas' as well.
    Well said - does make one wonder though- what would the world look like today if the first Torah had been burned..And why were all the ancient iraqi artifacts destroyed by rebels.? At first glance it’s a horror but upon contemplation it might have served as a means of liberation from ancient chains? This could be its own thread- really fascinating!

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    Music, art, stories, language a cocktail of thousand cultures wouldn't that be interesting at the least. Imagine me cooking for you a dish you haven't heard of and at the same time not expecting you to eat. a diverse culture cocktail anchored on mutual respect and acceptance. So what do we have now? A culture that revolves around money; superiority and false god that begets greed corruption and all the negativity. Truly we need to dissolve such a culture be liberated from the past chains and start over again.

    I'm a traveler I hoop from place to place. But I dont do the usual go to a hotel and see the beautiful places. I live, work like a local on that locality. Its always exciting to witness other culture and learn new things and share them my culture.
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    We have to bear in mind what the purpose of the human experiment is...
    I for one will join in with anyone, I don't care what color you are as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this Earth - Malcolm X / Tsar Of The Star

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    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    The first step to equality and a better world is to dissolve borders and factions.

    "Imagine there's no heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people living for today
    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will be as one
    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all the world, you
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope some day you'll join us
    And the world will be as one"
    Think what you said through to an outcome in the world we currently have today. Not the world spoken of in the Lennon song, which I love, incidentally. I like what that song says on an ideological level but the reality would be oh so different. In the US we are not even taking care of the citizens we have. I realize that is because they are giving low priority and money goes to other things, but do you think it is a good idea to let anyone swarm in here just because they want to. Do you have any idea how much it will cost to house, give medical attention, food stamps and welfare for these people? If a first group is allowed to just come in, there will be hordes more. What about applying for citizenship? We talk about the virtues of globalism like it is the brotherhood of man, all the while the world is set up with nationalities and different cultures. This push for globalism is about creating more control, nothing else.

    Describe to me if you will, how the world will really work once you just knock down those borders? Like I said ideologically that sounds well and good, but what about reality?

    I don't mean to sound like a wet blanket, but one thing I have learned over the years is you work with what you have, you start from where you are, not where you think you'd like to be.
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    Default Re: Thousands of US-bound, UN backed, migrants storm Guatemala-Mexico border

    21 Oct 2018468

    CIUDAD HIDALGO, Mexico (AP) — The Latest on the caravan of Central American migrants hoping to reach the United States (all times local):

    7:40 a.m.

    A migrant caravan whose numbers swelled overnight to an estimated 5,000 people at the Mexico-Guatemala border has resumed its march toward the U.S. frontier.

    The migrants had grown frustrated with Mexico’s attempts to process them and circumvented authorities by crossing the Suchiate river illegally.

    They have begun walking out of the border city of Ciudad Hidalgo at first light Sunday morning, headed 10 abreast for their next stop: the city of Tapachula.

    It’s not immediately clear where the additional travelers materialized from.

    But during a caravan last spring, many migrants who had been working and living at the Guatemala-Mexico border decided to join the caravan when it passed because it was safer to travel together.

    ___

    5 a.m.

    Despite Mexican efforts to stop them at the border, about 2,000 Central American migrants swam or rafted across a river separating that country from Guatemala, re-formed their mass caravan in Mexico and vowed to resume their journey toward the United States.

    The migrants say they gave up trying to enter Mexico legally because the asylum application process was too slow. They gathered Saturday at a park in the border city of Ciudad Hidalgo and voted by a show of hands to continue north en masse, then marched to the bridge crossing the Suchiate River and urged those still on it to come join them.

    The decision to re-form the migrant caravan Saturday capped a day in which Mexican authorities again refused mass entry to migrants on the bridge. Instead they accepted small groups for asylum processing and giving out 45-day visitor permits to some.


    https://www.breitbart.com/news/the-l...s-march-to-us/

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    Music, art, stories, language a cocktail of thousand cultures wouldn't that be interesting at the least. Imagine me cooking for you a dish you haven't heard of and at the same time not expecting you to eat. a diverse culture cocktail anchored on mutual respect and acceptance. So what do we have now? A culture that revolves around money; superiority and false god that begets greed corruption and all the negativity. Truly we need to dissolve such a culture be liberated from the past chains and start over again.

    I'm a traveler I hoop from place to place. But I dont do the usual go to a hotel and see the beautiful places. I live, work like a local on that locality. Its always exciting to witness other culture and learn new things and share them my culture.
    Imagine all that diversity gone for ever, just because we got hold of the wrong end of the stick when trying to solve the world's problems.

    We should round up the crooks, not cave in to their crookery.

    Right now, nations are a legal blockade against the advance of the corporate world order. If they go, we'll be reduced to liking each other on facebook, and other forms of supine behavioural defeat.
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    When go on your anti immigrants rants, maybe you should all remember you are actually talking about Bill Ryan.

    He is an immigrant.

    If norman were Ecuadoran, he would be demanding that the"hoards" leave his country which would include Bill.


    I am surprised Bill to see you support Norman and his beliefs considering you are in his crosshairs.


    Now lets look at why Honduras is in a place that many of its citizens want to flee.

    "In the late nineteenth century, Honduras granted land and substantial exemptions to several US-based fruit and infrastructure companies in return for developing the country's northern regions. Thousands of workers came to the north coast as a result to work in banana plantations and other businesses that grew up around the export industry. Banana-exporting companies, dominated until 1930 by the Cuyamel Fruit Company, as well as the United Fruit Company, and Standard Fruit Company, built an enclave economy in northern Honduras, controlling infrastructure and creating self-sufficient, tax-exempt sectors that contributed relatively little to economic growth. American troops landed in Honduras in 1903, 1907, 1911, 1912, 1919, 1924 and 1925.[31]
    "

    Do you know the term banana republic? Yeah.

    So America and its corporations, which norman is apparently worried about, destroyed this country in the past.

    Now its people have nothing and suffer through civil wars and coups. No wonder they want to leave.

    You are all treating the events now like they started today and are not connected to the past.
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    Praxis, unless Bill Ryan is actively plotting with the world's biggest crooks to wipe out human liberty, he is not in my 'cross hairs'.

    Even practicing idiots, who can't see the wood for the trees. are not in my cross hairs. They do piss me off tho'
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    Describe to me if you will, how the world will really work once you just knock down those borders? Like I said ideologically that sounds well and good, but what about reality?

    I don't mean to sound like a wet blanket, but one thing I have learned over the years is you work with what you have, you start from where you are, not where you think you'd like to be.
    did I say just knock down the borders?

    "Mixture of cultures can be nasty at first but with the proper guides and guidance (the ones in power just right off will certainly take advantage of it.) Maybe the new era will usher us into a new common good culture. Dissolve borders and dissolve cultures make way for a better one... when we are ready"

    There is a right and wrong way to do the right things
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    Music, art, stories, language a cocktail of thousand cultures wouldn't that be interesting at the least. Imagine me cooking for you a dish you haven't heard of and at the same time not expecting you to eat. a diverse culture cocktail anchored on mutual respect and acceptance. So what do we have now? A culture that revolves around money; superiority and false god that begets greed corruption and all the negativity. Truly we need to dissolve such a culture be liberated from the past chains and start over again.

    I'm a traveler I hoop from place to place. But I dont do the usual go to a hotel and see the beautiful places. I live, work like a local on that locality. Its always exciting to witness other culture and learn new things and share them my culture.
    Imagine all that diversity gone for ever, just because we got hold of the wrong end of the stick when trying to solve the world's problems.

    We should round up the crooks, not cave in to their crookery.

    Right now, nations are a legal blockade against the advance of the corporate world order. If they go, we'll be reduced to liking each other on facebook, and other forms of supine behavioural defeat.
    geeeee you dont lose the lemon when you mix it in, it just add flavor to the cocktail.

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