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    Default Re: Reviewing, “Where Did The Towers Go?”

    For those of you who simply can't wrap your brain around the suggestion that members of the NYPD, FDNY, and Port Authority Police might have been involved, consider the fact that it was from FDNY that we got the stories of molten metal, flowing like rivers.



    And from the NYPD comes the stories of fires so intense the concrete melted in its path.
    Quote Corruption in big-city police departments is legendary. Countless movies about dirty cops litter the video shelves; movies like Serpico, Internal Affairs, and the Godfather depict corruption everywhere. Everyone’s aware of Philadelphia PD corruption, of the LAPD and Rodney King, etc., etc. To a lesser known extent, but likely just as corrupt, come other big city departments, like the fire departments and social services, or the mayor’s offices. Influence peddling (read: graft, bribery) in local and national governments is commonplace, but we common folk prefer not to talk about it, or tell ourselves the good guys win in the end. It’s a happy fantasy.

    We’ve all heard the stories about the brave FDNY and the rivers of molten steel. The fire department is presented as hero-victims of 9/11 and is therefore beyond suspicion and reproach, as is their claim of molten steel. Second only to the FDNY on the sympathy scale is the NYPD, but what many people don’t know is not only was steel in the sky turned molten by kerosene on 9/11, but according to the NYPD, it also melted concrete a thousand feet below and not only that but after it cooled, it solidified back into concrete, encasing firearms therein.

    Melted concrete; why would they say that? Are they trying to give the impression that if the fires were so intense they could melt concrete then there’s no doubt they would melt steel? Since I look at everything as possible propaganda, that’s the Pachyderm-sized take-home lesson I have sitting in my living room, but I’m a cynic so let’s examine this claim to first see if it’s even possible.

    Fact:

    At the time of 911, Bernie Kerik was NYPD commissioner, and from there he went off to be the “Interim Minister of Interior – coalition Provisional Authority of Iraq” – he was allegedly not pilfering war-funds (you know, those pallets of cash that simply disappeared as soon as they arrived), but training locals to be good, honest cops. Unless I missed a recent headline, Kerik is currently doing time in a federal prison for other charges, but it gives a good idea of the kind of character that was in charge on 911.
    Full article, here: http://yankee451.com/?p=963
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    Quote Could you expand you thought's to the many toasted and weirdly burnt vehicles that were evidenced that day, some of them a considerable distance from the main 'event', and how they came to be?
    It will take me a few months to finish the review (my time is not my own), which will include the toasted cars. But for a clue, consider that the hyper corrupt NYPD, FDNY and Port Authority police hauled in derelict vehicles and set fire to them.

    See this video:

    Someone mentioned the insurance fraud involved in 9/11, which is where the vehicles come in. What a great way for the conspirators to replace their old fleets!

    https://www.firehouse.com/home/news/...leet-after-911
    Hmmmmmm............. Okay, the corruption that exists (existed) within the NYDP, FDNY & the PA I am of no doubt, but to tow and place ALL of the vehicles........... Possible. Likely? I dunno. I guess I'll have to wait until you publish the results of your research in that particular area.

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    Quote Could you expand you thought's to the many toasted and weirdly burnt vehicles that were evidenced that day, some of them a considerable distance from the main 'event', and how they came to be?
    It will take me a few months to finish the review (my time is not my own), which will include the toasted cars. But for a clue, consider that the hyper corrupt NYPD, FDNY and Port Authority police hauled in derelict vehicles and set fire to them.

    See this video:

    Someone mentioned the insurance fraud involved in 9/11, which is where the vehicles come in. What a great way for the conspirators to replace their old fleets!

    https://www.firehouse.com/home/news/...leet-after-911
    Hmmmmmm............. Okay, the corruption that exists (existed) within the NYDP, FDNY & the PA I am of no doubt, but to tow and place ALL of the vehicles........... Possible. Likely? I dunno. I guess I'll have to wait until you publish the results of your research in that particular area.

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    How big is too big for a big lie?

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    @Yankee

    "According to Judy Wood, Farrell shouldn't be attempting to identify the "who," until he identifies the "how."

    since when did Wood access Farrell before the publication of his book long after her book??

    "Dr. Farrell won't touch the evidence of the impact holes"- no, he didn't; he threw a net over the whole thing so that one can look at a complete picture instead of individual pixels-

    "Why do you continue to turn to establishment-published authors for Information"

    Farrell is anything but Establishment- where are you thinking?

    "According to Judy Wood, Farrell shouldn't be attempting to identify the "who," until he identifies the "how."-

    did you, yourself read Farrell's book?-

    Farrell goes much more deeply into the scientifics of this than Wood has and I just think we need to keep an open mind and weigh all possibilities;

    nothing, NOTHING on this earth is the way it appears on the surface;

    I just think we must all believe this- and Wood's work appeared before Farrell's book publication; so how could Judy Wood's book refer to Farrell unless after the publication of Farrell's publication (if she read it or we're these statements from other sources?)- or are you quoting Wood after she read Farell's work?

    of course, no sceintist want's to be balked by another scientist's research (God forbid!) and they all want to stay in their own comfortable cubicle but we all must be open to new ideas, even if they don't always fit into our own comfort zones-

    be well all-

    Larry

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    Default Re: Reviewing, “Where Did The Towers Go?”

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    Quote Could you expand you thought's to the many toasted and weirdly burnt vehicles that were evidenced that day, some of them a considerable distance from the main 'event', and how they came to be?
    It will take me a few months to finish the review (my time is not my own), which will include the toasted cars. But for a clue, consider that the hyper corrupt NYPD, FDNY and Port Authority police hauled in derelict vehicles and set fire to them.

    See this video:

    Someone mentioned the insurance fraud involved in 9/11, which is where the vehicles come in. What a great way for the conspirators to replace their old fleets!

    https://www.firehouse.com/home/news/...leet-after-911
    Hmmmmmm............. Okay, the corruption that exists (existed) within the NYDP, FDNY & the PA I am of no doubt, but to tow and place ALL of the vehicles........... Possible. Likely? I dunno. I guess I'll have to wait until you publish the results of your research in that particular area.

    Regards.
    How big is too big for a big lie?
    Auch...... I'm all too aware of how big the porkie-pies may well be, but surely, in what, 17 years, there would have been someone step forward who witnessed the hundreds of vehicles being placed or set alight in situ, no?

    I'm not arguing the fact, merely asking questions. Surely there would've been witnesses to that many vehicles being placed?

    Regards.

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    Default Re: Reviewing, “Where Did The Towers Go?”

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    @ The Crimson Horse Blanket

    Quote Could you expand you thought's to the many toasted and weirdly burnt vehicles that were evidenced that day, some of them a considerable distance from the main 'event', and how they came to be?
    It will take me a few months to finish the review (my time is not my own), which will include the toasted cars. But for a clue, consider that the hyper corrupt NYPD, FDNY and Port Authority police hauled in derelict vehicles and set fire to them.

    See this video:

    Someone mentioned the insurance fraud involved in 9/11, which is where the vehicles come in. What a great way for the conspirators to replace their old fleets!

    https://www.firehouse.com/home/news/...leet-after-911
    Hmmmmmm............. Okay, the corruption that exists (existed) within the NYDP, FDNY & the PA I am of no doubt, but to tow and place ALL of the vehicles........... Possible. Likely? I dunno. I guess I'll have to wait until you publish the results of your research in that particular area.

    Regards.
    "

    How big is too big for a big lie?
    Auch...... I'm all too aware of how big the porkie-pies may well be, but surely, in what, 17 years, there would have been someone step forward who witnessed the hundreds of vehicles being placed or set alight in situ, no?

    I'm not arguing the fact, merely asking questions. Surely there would've been witnesses to that many vehicles being placed?

    Regards.
    It is a fair question, but if someone wanted to blow the whistle, who would they turn to; to the media that broadcast the fake planes; to the NYPD that planted the plane parts, and opened museum exhibits to indoctrinate school children into believing the fires were so intense the concrete melted in its path; to the FDNY that was involved with producing propaganda films, wearing stage makeup, and spreading rumors about molten steel running like rivers; to the military that launched the missiles and planted the explosives; to the government that was about to declare war on the world? Where would you turn if you wanted to blow the whistle, knowing that the leaders of all these institutions are the most likely suspects?

    Turning to them would be like turning to the NAZIs to investigate the Reichstag fire.

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    @Yankee

    "According to Judy Wood, Farrell shouldn't be attempting to identify the "who," until he identifies the "how."

    since when did Wood access Farrell before the publication of his book long after her book??

    "Dr. Farrell won't touch the evidence of the impact holes"- no, he didn't; he threw a net over the whole thing so that one can look at a complete picture instead of individual pixels-

    "Why do you continue to turn to establishment-published authors for Information"

    Farrell is anything but Establishment- where are you thinking?

    "According to Judy Wood, Farrell shouldn't be attempting to identify the "who," until he identifies the "how."-

    did you, yourself read Farrell's book?-

    Farrell goes much more deeply into the scientifics of this than Wood has and I just think we need to keep an open mind and weigh all possibilities;

    nothing, NOTHING on this earth is the way it appears on the surface;

    I just think we must all believe this- and Wood's work appeared before Farrell's book publication; so how could Judy Wood's book refer to Farrell unless after the publication of Farrell's publication (if she read it or we're these statements from other sources?)- or are you quoting Wood after she read Farell's work?

    of course, no sceintist want's to be balked by another scientist's research (God forbid!) and they all want to stay in their own comfortable cubicle but we all must be open to new ideas, even if they don't always fit into our own comfort zones-

    be well all-

    Larry
    Oh joy, another book to read. Please cut to the chase and point to which book he has written where he researches the impact holes to the WTC, and I'll buy it and review it. From what I've read about him, he's throwing more of the same pixie dust into your eyes as Judy Wood.

    If you really believe that nothing on this earth is as it seems, I suggest you start with the information that tells you the powers that be are all powerful. This is the same ploy they've been playing since god kings claimed supernatural powers, but replace religious dogma with science dogma and we're left in the same boat today.

    If Farrell doesn't take what should be the first step in the investigation, by examining the impact holes at all 9/11 sites, then hell yes he's establishment.
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    @Yankee

    "Oh joy, another book to read. Please cut to the chase and point to which book he has written where he researches the impact holes to the WTC, and I'll buy it and review it"

    which books of his have you read?- probably none-

    "the powers that be are all powerful. This is the same ploy they've been playing since god kings claimed supernatural powers, but replace religious dogma with science dogma and we're left in the same boat today"- I agree with you totally-

    you're preaching to the choir-

    but if you think Farrell is establishment then you're out of touch with reality;

    Larry

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    @Yankee

    "Oh joy, another book to read. Please cut to the chase and point to which book he has written where he researches the impact holes to the WTC, and I'll buy it and review it"

    which books of his have you read?- probably none-

    "the powers that be are all powerful. This is the same ploy they've been playing since god kings claimed supernatural powers, but replace religious dogma with science dogma and we're left in the same boat today"- I agree with you totally-

    you're preaching to the choir-

    but if you think Farrell is establishment then you're out of touch with reality;

    Larry
    Perhaps your view of what is the establishment, is what is out of touch with reality. I have read none of his books, but I have read about his books, and my impressions are as I described. Please tell me which of his books deals with the scenes of the crime.

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    @Yankee

    "I have read none of his books"

    well, you might want to start there- great sources-

    "but I have read about his books"- ???- please state sources where you "read about" his books-

    "Please tell me which of his books deals with the scenes of the crime"-

    I already stated this- and I will repeat this:

    "Hidden Finance, Rogue Networks and Secret Sorcery"

    read it- you might learn something new-

    I have nothing more to say on this subject (already stated it) and will refrain from any more comments on this thread-

    Larry
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    @Cadillac,

    I have read about his books by reading the descriptions of his books.

    I gather he doesn't discuss the evidence that leads me to my conclusions, and that you prefer not to as well.

    Thank you for the resources.

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    For the record, I address Judy's argument, but none of her followers will address mine.

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    For the record, I address Judy's argument, but none of her followers will address mine.
    Do you realize that, in the main, you are having a conversation with yourself on this topic?

    I have addressed you, but you do not address the points or observations I make. Rather, you repeated your thesis.

    Repitition is not a productive form of discussion, nor a way to convince your potential audience.

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