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    Hi all,

    sorry to "invade" the start of threads for now (not normally my style) but I just feel the following interv. w/ LMH is just as valuable as the latest Dr. Farrell interv. on which I recently started a thread- two mind-boggling interviews-

    once LMH get's into the info about one of the most puzzling, mystical archeological sites on the planet, Göbekli Tepe in S. Turkey, did she rivet my attention; all I can say to this is: "holy s**t!"!

    I was gob-smacked by this interview-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT9LlcwupxI

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    A bit of a menu may be helpful here.

    Linda starts off by talking about Walt Disney, and his role connected with Project Mockingbird (the infiltration and control of the American media).

    She then talks about animal mutilations, and at 20:55, for a few minutes, she references human mutilations, which has been pointed out by others she doesn't often mention.

    Her section on Göbekli Tepe starts at 26:30, ten minutes before a break, and continues after that. Much of this she and others have spoken about before, but one particularly interesting section (from 40:00) is when she describes how weird and kind of 'non-human' and almost 'alien' and 'unknowable' it felt there.

    For more on this fascinating site, just search for 'Gobekli' in thread titles. (A unique search term!) There are quite a few threads, including some featuring much more by Linda on this.
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    @Bill

    many thanks for your up-grade on this- I hesitated to state about the Walt Disney aspect but now that you have mentioned this maybe more people will take notice of this-

    please be well-

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    I'm listening to this now. Once again they show their hand. The supposedly very fit, and it sounds like apt, archaeologist on the discovery, died in a swimming pool. He was 61.

    She discusses the possibility that the limestone pillars are "tuning forks" and I just laughed, because really our bone does the same thing.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    and at 20:55, for a few minutes, she references human mutilations, which has been pointed out by others she doesn't often mention.
    Hi Bill (and all). Thankyou for pointing this out. I've posted in the past regarding Linda's opinion of human mutilations (she previously chalked up the Brazilian case to agent orange according to a human mutilations documentary of Richard Hall a few years back). In the above clip, she maintains that she's only come across 5 cases that could be described as ET mutilation of humans compared to, what she figures is over 70,000 cases of animal mutilations (her number...not mine)...and so she just doesn't see the evidence for human mutilations. Somethings off here, imo. I was led to believe that thousands of people go missing each year (many are reported, many are not)....and that of the cases where people were found had the exact same characteristics as animal mutilations (no trace of blood within the body or in the surrounding area, sexual organs harvested, vital organs harvested, anal cavity cored out). Apart from that though, I've heard Linda speak in presentations back in the late 90's where she mentions stories of retrieved crashed ufos with various human body parts found inside the craft dating back to the 40's.

    I love and respect Linda Howe very much. But I will never understand her position on human mutilations (unless she was warned off by TPTB...which is that was the case then I'm surprised she would even bring it up in the above noted clip in the manner in which she did).

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    Graham Hancock (Oct 28, 2018) - Ancient Civilizations: Interstellar Links to Göbekli Tepe

    A lot that is extremely interesting on this video

    "Some may be so" but well worth the viewing and possibly some discussion

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    (I do however wish that some of these presentations would stop playing all that manipulative rousing music, as though telling us what to feel about it, and instead just let the information speak for itself.)

    x

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    What also frustrates me is when a may be so is touted as a fact. "Everyone knows"
    Im not sure either that Graham Hancock would totally agree with everything in the video.

    However I found the thought of these being energy devices plausible.
    The pyramids could well have had an energy function.
    We know so little and we think we are at the height of human evolution.

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    I saw Hancock at a presentation at the university of Toronto a couple of years ago and he explicitly went out of his way to 'debunk' alien abductions (or any other alien contact, I believe). My respect for him as a researcher declined dramatically with that. I don't think that he's ever examined the work on Lloyd Pye's starchild skull which provides irrefutable genetic evidence of alien/human interaction. Hancock still has a few more rabbit holes to explore before he has a grasp on the bigger picture, IMHO.

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    What really interests me is that things are cyclic and our ancestors seem to know that a massive catastrophic event was going to happen through studying the stars.
    They must have known well in advance.
    The time it must have taken to cover up the Gopekli Tepe site would have been months of work.
    People just seemed to have disappeared.
    There is so much coming to light now--
    What lies under the ice in Antarctica?

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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    I saw Hancock at a presentation at the university of Toronto a couple of years ago and he explicitly went out of his way to 'debunk' alien abductions (or any other alien contact, I believe). My respect for him as a researcher declined dramatically with that. I don't think that he's ever examined the work on Lloyd Pye's starchild skull which provides irrefutable genetic evidence of alien/human interaction. Hancock still has a few more rabbit holes to explore before he has a grasp on the bigger picture, IMHO.
    I'm a fan of Hancock & just hope that maybe in the last two years he's changed his stance regarding alien abductions. New evidence is always appearing (usually!) & I for one, have had my mind changed on more than one occasion.....lets hope GH is in touch with his Humble side...

    And I wholeheartedly agree with OopsWrongPlanet - the video music is bloody irritating!

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    Rightly or wrongly I suspect that Graham Hancock--keeps aliens out of his presentations to gain credibility.
    The moment you go into the likes of Atlantis and advanced civilizations you are already straining credibility and in truth most of the sites he speaks of could have been built with the aid of survivors of Atlantis (humans)

    However I would have thought that he would have had to give permission for the opening video to bear his name--so he must have approved of the content--or maybe not.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Rightly or wrongly I suspect that Graham Hancock--keeps aliens out of his presentations to gain credibility.
    The moment you go into the likes of Atlantis and advanced civilizations you are already straining credibility and in truth most of the sites he speaks of could have been built with the aid of survivors of Atlantis (humans)

    However I would have thought that he would have had to give permission for the opening video to bear his name--so he must have approved of the content--or maybe not.

    Chris
    That's certainly a possibility, I think he's quite mindful of his reputation & has had to defend his corner quite a few times, not least with the director of Egyptian Antiquities (I think that was his title/can't remember his name either) So I can see that he would be sensitive in that area.
    Not sure about having to give 'name permission' for the video though?

    NTS, I've always enjoyed Graham's work & presentations.

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    This video is not endorsed by G. Hancock but is someone's cut and paste of others views, including Graham's on the subject.

    I'm a lost civilization type guy on this site myself not aliens.

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    Graham Hancock has a living to make which he does with honesty and integrity.
    So his presentations are aimed at his readership.
    I dont think he is unaware of the possibility of alien influence just sticks to what is possible and plausible.
    Who knows for sure what went on before the ice age.


    I posted this elsewhere but its relevant here too.


    Forty minutes into this video there is a section about dramatic reduction of the population.
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    Im not sure either that Graham Hancock would totally agree with everything in the video.
    Well, it's not a Graham Hancock video. It's a re-titled opportunistic download-and-then-reupload, which is why it's out of sync and also slightly squeezed aspect-ratio-wise. Andrew Collins appears far more than Hancock. And I'd be 100% certain that the video was not released just yesterday.

    It's almost exactly 30 mins long... probably a TV episode, maybe even from Gaia. (But I'm not a Gaia subscriber, so that's a casual guess. But some of the inside interview backdrops look like the Gaia studio to me.)

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    While the cut and paste of the video is non too expert the content is I think valid and worth a look.
    There is a lot to be found on u tube on this subject.

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    Ha the opening post video has been removed by the user.
    I wonder what instigated that.
    I honestly think that GH would not have been too happy with his name being forefront in the title.

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    Josh Sigurdson reports on Turkey's Erdogan declaring 2019 the Year Of Gobekli Tepe. The ancient site of Gobekli Tepe changes everything we were taught by academic archaeologists about ancient civilizations.
    The extraordinary site which is hardly yet excavated is said to have been built around 12,000 years ago. Interesting, considering mainstream archaeologists claim human civilization randomly started around 3000 BC, about the same time as Stonehenge.
    Gobekli Tepe is 7000+ years older than Stonehenge and far more intricate and well built.
    The effort put into building this massive megalithic site is awe inspiring, yet the mainstream talking point regurgitating historians who are too stubborn to change their viewpoint and admit they were wrong with the uncovering of new information claim Gobekli Tepe is an anomaly and that it was the FIRST example of human civilization.
    So let us get this straight... Primitive cavemen put down their wooden spears and randomly built a massive megalith out of stone without any prior knowledge?
    The desperate attempt to cover up any examples of ancient human civilization dating back to and before the last major ice age during the Younger Dryas Period is absolutely astonishing. The evidence at this point is incontrovertible.
    With a massive extinction event happening around the end of the Younger Dryas period where meteors and plasma bursts are considered incredibly likely, especially in light of recent findings like the massive crater in Greenland, it seems quite obvious that an incredibly advanced ancient civilization was lost from the face of the Earth following an ancient cataclysm, the likes of which we could not imagine.

    So if the Turks could have built something like Gobekli Tepe around 10,000 BC, why couldn't Atlantis exist? Why shouldn't Plato have been right in recounting that ancient Egypt was just an offshoot of the Atlantians?
    There are thousands of examples of pre-dynastic architecture in Egypt that far outweighs what the dynastic Egyptians were capable of.
    There are countless examples in Giza alone, including the clearly water eroded Great Sphinx. There are countless examples in Peru including in places like Machu Picchu where you can clearly see pre-Inca stone work which is beautifully precise with rocks interlocking all while far more primitive Inca stone work is built on top.
    The pre-Inca stone work was clearly struck by a massive earthquake while the Inca stone work was not.
    There is a clear coverup of the origins of human civilization.
    One has to ask why? Why do governments around the world restrict serious excavations and research into this? Why does the media attempt to discredit people like Graham Hancock and Dr. Robert Schoch as they expose clear evidence that the stories we've been told about ancient civilization are wrong? Who benefits? What do they know that they don't want us to know about?

    We at WAM plan on going to Gobekli Tepe as part of an investigation into the true origins of human civilization and the massive cataclysm that wiped out an incredibly savvy, advanced civilization. You can find our GoFundMe link below.
    Stay tuned as we continue to cover this issue closely! We cannot ignore a truth whose time has come! See our campaign to send us to Gobekli Tepe here: https://www.gofundme.com/send-wam-to-... Video edited by Josh Sigurdson Featuring: Josh Sigurdson

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    Default Re: Gobekli Tepe

    Great!

    This year in September I will make a roadtrip with a friend of mine in Turkey for 3 weeks, especially the South and South-East!

    He is a Syrian refugee and knows the area at the Turkish-Syrian Border very well-he said we will need at least 2 weeks to see most of the interesting archaeological sights in this area, Göbekli Tepe JUST BEING ONE OF MANY. Also the enormous tunnel systems in this area!

    I am really looking forward to this trip and will post some pictures and stories on here-for anybody who is interested.

    More and more information is coming up about pre-existing cultures prior...not only before the Younger Dryas event, even more older.

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