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    Something really strange happened to me this weekend. I had felt tired all Saturday, but worse Sunday. I was feeling drained of energy. I didn’t feel like shopping for food that I needed. I didn’t feel like cooking nor going out for food. I didn’t wish to do anything. Then about 5pm, Sunday, I got this strange feeling that someone unknown was tapping into my energy. Although in a state of confusion, I reacted swiftly. I cut off the energy flow (by intent), I protected myself (by request). And I started replenishing energy from the universe (by intent). I didn't know if these actions were necessary, but it couldn't hurt. Then, exhausted, I collapsed in my easy chair. An hour later I was back to my normal self and took the dog out for a walk. :-)

    So, what was happening to me yesterday? I am feeling just fine today. I looked up “energy vampire” this morning, but it did not seem to fit my experience. I live alone. There is no one that I regularly see who could fit the energy vampire descriptions found on the internet. I dowsed all the people that I had visited with this weekend asking in turn if s/he was doing this. The definitions that I read did not include chance meetings along the street.

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    I was feeling the energies this weekend. So last night I went looking to see what was up. If you look at this link below, and look at the charts from Germany on the KP index we were flat.

    https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/...ivity/kp-index

    And here is text you can read on the effects Cosmic Galactic Rays on human health. We are at risk when the KP index is at 0 or between 7-9.

    https://abruptearthchanges.com/2018/...alth-behavior/

    Here is Ben Davidson's video on it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFLYj_SVX0M

    and here is another video that shows we were at KP 0 for several days in October.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Z2XZRu9j8

    I was wondering if someone/something was sending the energies my way as well.

    And I am not ruling that possibility out!

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVSps-pfUvI

    And here at this conference Ben Davidson says to fight back mentally!


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    Default Re: Help me to explain the drain.

    I had a similar Sunday to you OP..

    Could it have been the Moon?

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    I had no desire for personal study this weekend. I typically devote 2-3 hours each day and have for most of my life since childhood. I did sit and ponder (AGAIN), “What's this block to not be able to voice anything I sense and almost see?”

    My sleep patterns were messed up this weekend and the dreams continue to be different from the usual. One thing I notice is how people speak to me directly, that is, we converse telepathically. Whereas typically, I feel more like an observer or a lone player living parallel to the others much like two kids that play side by side with little interaction.

    One other thing is many who have passed pop into my dreams now, and some from my past came in. One example is my first husband interacted with me in three dreams over the weekend. I haven’t had contact with him since 1994. I can’t help wonder if he’s experimenting with dream travel or if his spirit is beginning to leave his body.

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    Boy, can I relate to this post! I've been commenting to my co-workers lately that mentally, reality has been like an episode of "the twilight zone". While my energy level has been lower than usual, the more disturbing aspect is everything seems so damn surreal. I'm feeling a bit better as I write this , but I honestly realize I still have a ways to go to finally work through these feelings. Archon-like ankle-biters sure are a pain!!

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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    I had no desire for personal study this weekend. I typically devote 2-3 hours each day and have for most of my life since childhood. I did sit and ponder (AGAIN), “What's this block to not be able to voice anything I sense and almost see?”

    My sleep patterns were messed up this weekend and the dreams continue to be different from the usual. One thing I notice is how people speak to me directly, that is, we converse telepathically. Whereas typically, I feel more like an observer or a lone player living parallel to the others much like two kids that play side by side with little interaction.

    One other thing is many who have passed pop into my dreams now, and some from my past came in. One example is my first husband interacted with me in three dreams over the weekend. I haven’t had contact with him since 1994. I can’t help wonder if he’s experimenting with dream travel or if his spirit is beginning to leave his body.
    If we are talking of energy and dreams, I had a weird dream last week, that could be related to my inner state, or to the world affairs.

    I dreamed that I was home, sleeping, when Bill Clinton (no less ) got into my room. He was as physical as can be, in my dream, right height, right weight, and over and above, pis sed drunk. So drunk that he was unmanageable.

    He crashed onto my bed. I tell him, in English "wake up, wake up" push him on the shoulder a bit. He started to undo his pants. Knowing his reputation, I thought "gosh I have to get away fast" but could not go through the front door, because I would have have to pass over him, so I decided to go through the dining room and the back door in the kitchen, saying "where is the kitchen, where is the kitchen". Then woke up.

    It was so real as a dream that I looked wherever I could to see if Bill Clinton had not been admitted to hospital (lost his mind) or died. Or been indicted.

    I am still shaken by the dream when I mention it.

    And yes, I am more tired than usual.

    Maybe we are being sucked up of energy to the max because they are somehow deprived of it and need it fast, or because they are preparing something.
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    And yes, I am more tired than usual.

    Maybe we are being sucked up of energy to the max because they are somehow deprived of it and need it fast, or because they are preparing something.
    I feel like I’m waking up to this pretend world much more than I understood it to be. The dream state is a safe place for the transition to understand and perhaps recall. It takes more energy to sit with this experientially, thus the increased level of energy drain.
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    Default Re: Help me to explain the drain.

    Gee. While you're trying to explain the drain, I'm trying to explain the coincidence...

    I'm feeling similarly and it's coming and going fairly quickly. I can't call it energy drain because I didn't really have much energy to begin with.

    Moon was my first thought too. Though the moon doesn't seem to affect me, I've heard reports of patterns in regard to the moon phases.

    I also haven't ruled out abduction. I don't expect to be able to prove an abduction, but my menstrual period did come 2 weeks early, which I find mildly suspicious.

    Just this morning I caught myself ranting in my head about not wanting to do anything, and how much I love doing nothing. I was reminded of the main character in the movie "Office Space" who was asked "What would you do if you won a million bucks?". "Absolutely Nothing", he remarked.

    I've had this somewhat depressing feeling before, and it always goes away. I don't always want to do nothing.

    Once it does, the world ends up feeling different somehow. Liderr said surreal, which fits, I'd just describe what I feel more like a "fakeness" feeling - as if everything were made out of cardboard.

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    At my age being tired is ok--Not having to do anything I just go for a sleep and enjoy it.
    However the best word I can come up with is apathetic.
    Im no suicidal but would be quite pleased to drift of in my sleep.
    Got the T shirt--had a great life, no complaints, now im bored and cant be bothered looking for something to do.
    Things seem a bit pointless--as in looking for something new to do
    My son asked if it was possible I was sitting on a nail and howling.
    No im not unhappy as such---all just seems surreal.
    I get two kids playing but not interacting, thanks for that.
    The feeling will pass no doubt

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    A large area in eastern PA experienced what I called a power surge that lasted for a few seconds. People in multiple counties reported the same thing happening at the same time. (Via group text) The weather was perfectly fine, no storms. This was Saturday evening around 9:00 pm EST.
    Not to be dramatic but it felt different than a usual power surge. That is why I reached out through the text app to see if anyone else noticed it.

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    There was a strong magnetic spike Norway region about 18 hours ago, then over on the northern regions of Alaska about 4-5 hours ago a very similar spike.. Extremely rapid polarity shift, a pattern similar to a "bell" being struck with a hammer and then the ringing slowly dying out. From experience that would be the result of a solar storm influx, however none was reported on any of the satellites.. It could possibly be then originating from within the earth.

    ref: https://geomag.usgs.gov/plots/

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    At my age being tired is ok--Not having to do anything I just go for a sleep and enjoy it.
    However the best word I can come up with is apathetic.
    Im no suicidal but would be quite pleased to drift of in my sleep.
    Got the T shirt--had a great life, no complaints, now im bored and cant be bothered looking for something to do.
    Things seem a bit pointless--as in looking for something new to do
    My son asked if it was possible I was sitting on a nail and howling.
    No im not unhappy as such---all just seems surreal.
    I get two kids playing but not interacting, thanks for that.
    The feeling will pass no doubt

    Chris
    As silly as this sounds… I’m learning for the first time to do nothing. It’s okay to sit, feed the birds, watch the leaves change color and listen to the sounds of them whirling around the driveway, track the ladybug across the window-pane…

    There’s less pressure to gather more data. In fact, the more I release, the freer I am to experience Paula-the-simple-human that’s replete with natural abilities. These reveal themselves the more I engage the humanness that’s been muffled by inner and outer programmed beliefs and systems.

    Past activities/people/goals were perfect for the time and necessary; I’m learning how to be un-busy from the silliness I once thought was important.

    No doubt, I’ll rightly understand the strides I’ve made living as a human.
    Even more so later.
    Exponentially so.

    Until then…

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    Although i am somewhat younger than many of the posters here, I too have been feeling drained. Strangely, i am drawn to this forum during those times. Perhaps it is an energizing touchstone.

    I hate to make it simple. Please forgive this, but has anyone considered that we are reacting to the change in the weather? Cooler days, cold nights, shorter days that force the biological being to slow down and take it easy to conserve energy for the upcoming winter?

    Maybe its just that simple.

    Let me illustrate an example. Since I have had Hashimotos I attribute every physical sensation to Hashimotos. Not exactly the case. Sometimes, its just a simple norovirus making me sick, but in my obsessive focus upon my dis-ease, I am convinced that every little thing must be auto-immune in nature.

    Let us not get so caught up in the esoteric that we forget the Occam's razor explanation? We're not old, there is nothing mysterious happening, we are just possibly experiencing what all creatures do when the seasons change? We adapt?

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    Quote Posted by AriG (here)
    Although i am somewhat younger than many of the posters here, I too have been feeling drained. Strangely, i am drawn to this forum during those times. Perhaps it is an energizing touchstone.

    I hate to make it simple. Please forgive this, but has anyone considered that we are reacting to the change in the weather? Cooler days, cold nights, shorter days that force the biological being to slow down and take it easy to conserve energy for the upcoming winter?

    Maybe its just that simple.

    Let me illustrate an example. Since I have had Hashimotos I attribute every physical sensation to Hashimotos. Not exactly the case. Sometimes, its just a simple norovirus making me sick, but in my obsessive focus upon my dis-ease, I am convinced that every little thing must be auto-immune in nature.

    Let us not get so caught up in the esoteric that we forget the Occam's razor explanation? We're not old, there is nothing mysterious happening, we are just possibly experiencing what all creatures do when the seasons change? We adapt?
    Yes I had thought of it, hibernating starting, like bears.

    I always feel slower in fall. But this is a bit different, not only am I drained, by my brain is kind of messed up, as if I cannot focus as I usually could. Yet, I am regaining some physical better shape compared with previous years. Go figure.
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    Quote Posted by AriG (here)
    Although i am somewhat younger than many of the posters here, I too have been feeling drained. Strangely, i am drawn to this forum during those times. Perhaps it is an energizing touchstone.

    I hate to make it simple. Please forgive this, but has anyone considered that we are reacting to the change in the weather? Cooler days, cold nights, shorter days that force the biological being to slow down and take it easy to conserve energy for the upcoming winter?

    Maybe its just that simple.

    Let me illustrate an example. Since I have had Hashimotos I attribute every physical sensation to Hashimotos. Not exactly the case. Sometimes, its just a simple norovirus making me sick, but in my obsessive focus upon my dis-ease, I am convinced that every little thing must be auto-immune in nature.

    Let us not get so caught up in the esoteric that we forget the Occam's razor explanation? We're not old, there is nothing mysterious happening, we are just possibly experiencing what all creatures do when the seasons change? We adapt?
    Maybe its the seasonal change? Could very well be but I doubt it. Warren lives in Ecuador where I assume the seasons are mostly the same. The women posting are all hypothyroid, undoubtedly. We are boiling hot most of the time.
    I think the OP is searching for a reason he felt off kilter.

    Looking forward to Warren's answer
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    I can believe that here is a chemical imbalance--a lack of selenium--perhaps
    At the moment I have started to use Mucuna
    It is used as an aid to lift mood and many other positive effects.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucuna_pruriens

    https://www.indigo-herbs.co.uk/natur...ucuna-pruriens
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    wnlight, I do know what you mean, of a sort.

    Where has sanity, common sense and consideration gone? I am feeling it accutely lately. Painfully. I conduct myself with the afore three and I'll be damned if I almost never get it in return in the "outside world". It's very bewildering.

    I can handle blue avians, reptilians, greys, e.t.s, demons, the complete destruction of every paradigm I've ever known and then some, but where has civility gone? Where did we lose respect for one another? At what juncture did that get hi-jacked?

    Because that, more than any other physical hits, or psychological ones or any other thing that gets thrown at us, the loss of compassion is the one that baffles and drains me the most.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    wnlight, I do know what you mean, of a sort.

    Where has sanity, common sense and consideration gone? I am feeling it accutely lately. Painfully. I conduct myself with the afore three and I'll be damned if I almost never get it in return in the "outside world". It's very bewildering.
    Not sure where they've gone, but much of them has gone. Look at what's accepted behavior in the media -- endless self promotion by both talented and talentless figures. There's no "shame" anymore (old sense of word), no line that shouldn't be crossed to get your name and face in the public eye. People mirror the media and vice versa, so you see it all the time just out and about. Talking on phones on speaker inside a store. Cutting you off in traffic. No "excuse me" when you get bumped.

    More "communication" doesn't mean an increase in understanding, empathy and consideration. Cultivation of the soul is still a personal matter. Class (old sense of word) has always mattered, no matter where you come from. And it still does, to a few of us.

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    wnlight, I do know what you mean, of a sort.

    Where has sanity, common sense and consideration gone? I am feeling it accutely lately. Painfully. I conduct myself with the afore three and I'll be damned if I almost never get it in return in the "outside world". It's very bewildering.
    Not sure where they've gone, but much of them has gone. Look at what's accepted behavior in the media -- endless self promotion by both talented and talentless figures. There's no "shame" anymore (old sense of word), no line that shouldn't be crossed to get your name and face in the public eye. People mirror the media and vice versa, so you see it all the time just out and about. Talking on phones on speaker inside a store. Cutting you off in traffic. No "excuse me" when you get bumped.

    More "communication" doesn't mean an increase in understanding, empathy and consideration. Cultivation of the soul is still a personal matter. Class (old sense of word) has always mattered, no matter where you come from. And it still does, to a few of us.
    I notice that most people sensing the lack of civility and "man's inhumanity to man" live in the US. I have dear friends in the UK who don't feel this way. They have a connection and a sense of community that is sorely lacking here. My husband, who is English and living here since 2001, thinks he has the answer - guns. And I am beginning to agree with him.

    Now before all the gun owners accuse me of infringing on their civil liberties, allow me to state that I am a gun owner. I own a 38 caliber snub nose revolver for added home security, and I own a rifle for (attempting) shooting coyotes that are everywhere here and could threaten my goats and fowl. Luckily, they rarely come out as I have two of the most beautiful, smart, talented and loyal Livestock Guardian dogs ever.

    I digress. So back to guns. So my dear friend lives in Carmarthenshire in Pembrook Wales. She recently moved there and bought a small piece of land upon which to live the sort of life that i have here. Sheep etc. But her life is so much better in so many ways. The Village just two miles from her farm.They recently flooded. Terrible. Hundreds of sheep in low lying areas were drowned; a young man lost his life. Although she has only lived there about a year, she knows everyone in the Village and was headed down to her lower lying neighbors the next day to check on their well being.

    Meanwhile, back in the states. We have a few neighbors. They are not super close, but close enough. One neighbor stole a dog we had rescued. The other neighbor shoots off his front porch that faces the main road (we are in a very undulating hilly karst topography), etc., etc..
    No one reaches out. Everyone keeps to themselves. There are no friends here. If there were to be a natural disaster, the last thing that we would do would be to just show up and walk onto their land. Why? Guns... There is no "right of way" here. Walk onto someone's land and risk being shot. Same thing applies in the city. I have had to beg my husband to not engage people when they are behaving badly. Why? They might have gun.

    People all over the world have ideological differences. And its ok to debate those differences in a civil manner. But here, in the US, people are angry, disjointed, emotionally hijacked and armed


    My apologies to the OP. This has nothing to do with feeling drained (or it could if you have the misfortune to live in the US in 2018).

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