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    This is special MSM feels sorry for George Sorros ,below is the first article on 10-31-18.

    The second article was on 11-1-18 ... both the same

    JUST SLAMMING THERE POINTS HOME. Poor George.

    It's funny, MSM talking about a lie, now that's irony. The attack on Alternate Media

    is in full bloom.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...ine/ar-BBPaqWr


    How a lie about George Soros and the migrant caravan multiplied online

    USA TODAY followed the rapid spread of a social media conspiracy theory about
    George Soros and migrants that grew from obscurity to the political mainstream.

    Brad Heath, Matt Wynn and Jessica Guynn, USA TODAY

    3:27 p.m. EDT Oct. 31, 201


    How a lie about George Soros and the migrant caravan multiplied online

    This is the life of a lie.

    Three weeks ago, a caravan of Hondurans began walking nearly 2,000 miles to the
    United States. Their ranks grew as they inched north and, along with them,
    falsehoods grew, too. But one stands out: a conspiracy theory that liberal
    billionaire George Soros, a Jewish immigrant, is paying the migrants to make the
    journey – or even orchestrating it.
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    https://www.pressreader.com/usa/usa-...81496457287099

    HOW A LIE TOOK HOLD AND TOOK OFF
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    > USA- Today 1 Nov 2018

    > This is the life of a lie.
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    > Three weeks ago, a caravan of Hondurans began walking nearly 2,000 miles to
    the United States. Their ranks grew as they inched north and, along with them,
    falsehoods grew, too. But one stands out: a conspiracy theory that liberal
    billionaire George Soros, a Jewish immigrant, is paying the migrants to make the
    journey – or even orchestrating it.
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    > Members of Congress and the president’s son both repeated it. Conservative
    celebrities, too.
    >
    > It also may have resonated in darker places. Cesar Sayoc, the man charged with
    mailing pipe bombs to Soros and other prominent critics of President Donald
    Trump, dwelled at length online about conspiracy theories involving the
    Hungarian-American philanthropist. Robert Bowers, charged with killing 11 people
    worshiping in a Pittsburgh synagogue on Saturday, used his social media accounts
    to post extensively about the caravan, including circulating an image of
    refugees in Guatemala purportedly climbing into a truck with a Star of David on
    the side.
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    Is there any threads here outlining evidence that Soros has organized and paid all these people to do this? If so we should probably put that info together with this info.
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    I don't have anything on who is behind this whole migrant caravan thing, but I saw nearly the same kind of article in a newspaper here in the Netherlands.
    Has to be a global effort coming from the Soros camp it seems. interesting

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    Quote Posted by Jantje (here)
    I don't have anything on who is behind this whole migrant caravan thing, but I saw nearly the same kind of article in a newspaper here in the Netherlands.
    Has to be a global effort coming from the Soros camp it seems. interesting
    I'm curious to see if there is any evidence that its not just a migrant caravan? I mean it's not like this is the first time impoverished migrants have tried to come into the US, so through intrinsic context, I think some evidence needs to be provided.

    Anyone can write anything in the media, fake news, not fake news, fake news about the fake news, real news being perceived as fake news, etc.
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    If anyone is benefiting from this caravan just in time for the midterm elections, then it's "I will build a wall" Trump.

    How would Soros benefiting from it? Such a story just helps the wall builders.
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    For what it's worth -

    Quote This is no cry for help, or a group of helpless refugees in dire need of humanitarian aid.

    It's a gang of politicized malcontents, organized by a leftist group called Pueblos Sin Fronteras, or People Without Borders in the North American vernacular.

    Roberto Corona is founder of Pueblo Sin Fronteras. Who has made significant donations to Pueblos Sin Fronteras?

    Quote Last fall, Soros transferred $18 billion to the Open Society Foundations, the network of non-profits Soros uses to advance his globalist, borderless ideology both in the U.S. and around the world.

    The massive transfer, which was first reported by the Wall Street Journal, is roughly equivalent to the gross domestic product of Afghanistan, according to World Bank data. It is seen as a way for the 89-year-old Soros to avoid the estate tax – also known as the death tax – which penalizes large inheritances.

    Inside Philanthropy reported in 2016 that Soros, who has said that he considers himself to be “some kind of god,” began laying the groundwork for the foundation to continue his mission after he dies.

    Hacked Open Society Foundation documents published last summer shed light on the way in which Soros has used his foundation to advance progressive, open-borders policies both domestically and abroad.

    In the U.S., his foundation has provided funding for the Black Lives Matter movement and open borders activists.

    The foundation has also provided funding to anti-Trump “resistance” groups, funded opposition research on critics of radical Islam and attempted to influence Supreme Court rulings.

    Soros’ foundation is now the second-largest philanthropic organization in the U.S. behind only the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
    ref: https://thegoldwater.com/news/22122-...-Sin-Fronteras

    Quote Soros-Funded Groups Backing Mexico Caravan of Socialists, Pueblos Sin Fronteras
    George Soros and his organization Open Society Foundations deny funding and organization of the caravan.

    Has Soros used his funds to give migrants a way to protest, migrate before? Apparently yes -

    Quote How illegal migrants cope financially during their long journeys to and through Europe has been revealed by the Slovenian site Nova24.

    According to the site, UNHCR and the EU, in cooperation with MasterCard and Soros, generously hand out prepaid debit cards to the migrants.

    The cards are equipped with both EU and UNHCR logos. No identity documents are required to obtain or use the cards – instead of the name of the cardholder, “UNHCR” and a number is printed on the card.

    According to Nova24, the information comes from a source within the Croatian police, which states that the migrants are well-equipped with newly purchased, high-quality boots, hiking clothes, smartphones and even weapons.

    During the stopover in the Eastern European countries, they withdraw cash from ATMs to stock up on supplies.

    MasterCard announced in 2016 that they issued prepaid debit cards to “give refugees mobility, flexibility and dignity”.

    In a press release last year, MasterCard also announced a cooperation with George Soros with the aim to “catalyse and accelerate economic and social development for vulnerable groups in the world, especially refugees and migrants”.

    The press release further stated that George Soros had earmarked up to $500 million for private investment that will increase capacity to meet the challenges faced by migrants, including refugees, and their host communities across the world.

    ref: https://news.counteraction.com/person/77
    Organizations openly receiving funding from Soros:
    1. Air America
    2. All Of Us Or None
    3. Alliance for Justice
    4. America Coming Together
    5. America Votes
    6. America's Voice
    7. American Bar Association Commission on Immigration Policy
    8. American Civil Liberties Union
    9. American Constitution Society for Law and Policy
    10. American Family Voices
    11. American Federation of Teachers
    12. American Friends Service Committee
    13. American Immigration Council
    14. American Immigration Law Foundation
    15. American Institute for Social Justice
    16. American Library Association
    17. Amnesty International
    18. Arab American Institute Foundation
    19. Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now
    20. Bill of Rights Defense Committee
    21. Brennan Center for Justice
    22. Brookings Institution
    23. Campaign for America's Future
    24. Campaign for Better Health Care
    25. Campus Progress
    26. Casa de Maryland
    27. Catalist
    28. Catholic Campaign for Human Development
    29. Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLINIC) [3]
    30. Catholics for a Free Choice
    31. Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good
    32. Catholics United[3]
    33. Center for American Progress
    34. Center for Community Change
    35. Center for Constitutional Rights
    36. Center for Economic and Policy Research
    37. Center for Investigative Reporting[4]
    38. Center for Reproductive Rights
    39. Center for Responsible Lending
    40. Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
    41. Center on Wisconsin Strategy (COWS)
    42. Change America Now
    43. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington
    44. Coalition for an International Criminal Court
    45. Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund
    46. Democracy Alliance
    47. Democracy 21
    48. Democracy Now!
    49. Democratic Justice Fund
    50. Democratic Party
    51. Earthjustice
    52. Electronic Privacy Information Center
    53. Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
    54. EMILY's List
    55. Energy Action Coalition
    56. Fair Immigration Reform Movement
    57. Faithful America
    58. Feminist Majority
    59. Four Freedoms Fund
    60. Free Exchange on Campus
    61. Free Press
    62. Funding Exchange
    63. Gamaliel Foundation
    64. Gisha: Center for the Legal Protection of Freedom of Movement
    65. Global Exchange
    66. Grantmakers Without Borders
    67. Green For All
    68. Health Care for America Now
    69. Huffington Post
    70. Human Rights First
    71. Human Rights Watch
    72. I'lam
    73. Immigrant Defense Project
    74. Immigrant Legal Resource Center
    75. Immigrant Workers Citizenship Project
    76. Immigration Policy Center
    77. Independent Media Center
    78. Institute for America's Future
    79. Institute for Policy Studies
    80. Institute for Public Accuracy
    81. Institute for Women's Policy Research
    82. International Crisis Group
    83. J Street
    84. Jewish Funds for Justice
    85. Jews for Racial and Economic Justice[4]
    86. Joint Victory Campaign 2004
    87. LatinoJustice PRLDF
    88. Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law
    89. League of United Latin American Citizens
    90. League of Women Voters Education Fund
    91. Lynne Stewart Defense Committee
    92. MADRE
    93. Malcolm X Grassroots Movement
    94. Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition
    95. Media Fund
    96. Media Matters for America
    97. Mercy Corps
    98. Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund
    99. Meyer, Suozzi, English and Klein, PC
    100. Midwest Academy
    101. Migration Policy Institute
    102. Military Families Speak Out
    103. Million Mom March[4]
    104. MoveOn.org
    105. Ms. Foundation for Women
    106. NARAL Pro-Choice America
    107. NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund
    108. National Abortion Federation
    109. National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty
    110. National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy
    111. National Committee for Voting Integrity
    112. National Council for Research on Women
    113. National Council of La Raza
    114. National Council of Women's Organizations
    115. National Immigration Forum
    116. National Immigration Law Center
    117. National Lawyers Guild
    118. National Organization for Women
    119. National Partnership for Women and Families
    120. National Priorities Project
    121. National Public Radio
    122. National Security Archive Fund
    123. National Women's Law Center
    124. Natural Resources Defense Council
    125. Pacifica Foundation
    126. Peace and Security Funders Group
    127. Peace Development Fund
    128. People for the American Way
    129. Physicians for Human Rights
    130. Physicians for Social Responsibility
    131. Planned Parenthood
    132. Ploughshares Fund
    133. Presidential Climate Action Project
    134. Prison Moratorium Project
    135. Progressive States Network
    136. Project Vote
    137. Pro Publica
    138. Proteus Fund
    139. Public Citizen Foundation
    140. Rebuild and Renew America Now (a.k.a. Unity '09)
    141. Secretary of State Project
    142. Sentencing Project
    143. Shadow Democratic Party
    144. Sojourners
    145. Southern Poverty Law Center
    146. The American Prospect, Inc.
    147. The Nation Institute
    148. Think Progress
    149. Thunder Road Group
    150. Tides Foundation and Tides Center
    151. U.S. Public Interest Research Group
    152. Universal Healthcare Action Network
    153. Urban Institute
    154. USAction Education Fund
    155. Wikimedia Foundation, Wikipedia
    156. Working Families Party
    157. World Organization Against Torture
    158. YWCA World Office, Switzerland

    I didn't see any direct link to Pueblo Sin Fronteras.

    Is there any link from Roberto Corona and Soros or his foundation?

    Influence-Watch says this:

    Quote The Centro Sin Fronteras (“Center Without Borders”), officially the Centro Sin Fronteras Community Services Network, is a 501(c)(3) illegal immigration activist organization.

    The Center was founded in Chicago, Illinois in 1987 by Emma Lozano, a pastor at the Lincoln United Methodist Church in Chicago, Illinois. [1] [2]

    Lozano is the sister of the late Rudy Lozano, a left-wing activist and community organizer in Chicago.[3]

    The organization advocates against deporting immigrants living in the United States illegally, a “moratorium on all raids,” comprehensive immigration reform “that provides legalization for the 12 million” illegal immigrants in the U.S., and a “renegotiation of NAFTA and other trade and financial agreements” to better suit the interests of Mexico. [4]

    Lozano and the Center have been involved in a number of demonstrations and protests with other left-wing groups, most notably the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) in April 2016.[5] Lozano is a member of the LULAC Illinois state affiliate’s immigration committee, and the Centro has extensive connections with LULAC.[6]

    Elvira Arellano, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, former fugitive from U.S. immigration authorities, and activist for illegal immigrants in the U.S., formed the activist group La Familia Latina Unida (“The United Latin Family”) as an expansion of the Centro Sin Fronteras. [7]

    La Familia Latina Unida runs Pueblo Sin Fronteras (“People Without Borders”), a group that organizes “migrant caravans” from Mexico and Latin America to cross the U.S. border illegally.[8]
    and

    Quote Pueblo Sin Fronteras and La Familia Latina Unida formerly shared the same Chicago address (2716 W. Division St, Chicago, Illinois 60622), which is the same address as the Adalberto United Methodist Church. [17] [18]

    and

    Quote The Pueblo Sin Fronteras (“People Without Borders”) is a project of La Familia Latina Unida. The two organizations are regularly listed together, including on the latter’s website and their respective social media pages.[19]

    Emma Lozano is listed as executive director of Pueblo Sin Fronteras. [20]

    Roberto Corona is the founder of Pueblo Sin Fronteras.[21]

    Pueblo Sin Fronteras is a member of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, a left-wing coalition of immigrant activist groups.[22]
    Again then going through the Soros and Foundation funded LIST above, note who gets funding:

    Quote Pueblo Sin Fronteras, a group connected with the Centro affiliate La Familia Latina Unida, organized the caravan in conjunction with the CARA Family Detention Pro Bono Project.

    The CARA coalition consists of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, the American Immigration Council, the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services, and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, all groups advocating for legal status for illegal immigrants and expanded immigration overall.[25]

    These organizations have been funded by a number of major left-of-center grant-making foundations, including the Open Society Foundations (Soros), MacArthur Foundation, Ford Foundation, and Carnegie Corporation of New York. [26] [27]
    So is Soros and his foundation DIRECTLY funding, apparently not, but there appears to be funding ties through "other organizations" which could serve to mask any direct activity.
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    @ Builder .... This isn't about making money is about the mid term elections. They are trying to make Trump look bad,... if he doesn't let them in he's a tryant, ... if he does let them in he's weak .... Sorro's is a no borders liberal .. read Bob's post above . It's a political move not an economic one. I hope this does help the wall builders but that's not the intent of the march. We have enough illegals crossing everyday, if you have been on the border states Arizona, Texas you could see the problems that have manifested from the border crossings ( illegal ).

    Taken from another thread here:

    31st October 2018 05:55 ...Link to Post #84

    Thousands of US-bound, UN backed, migrants storm Guatemala-Mexico border

    "Soros admits involvement in migrant crisis" -

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...-the-obstacle/
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    Soros Partners With Mastercard To Hand Out Money To Migrants

    https://eraoflight.com/2018/11/04/so...y-to-migrants/

    realnews source eraoflightBillionaire investor George Soros has repeatedly denied rumors that he is helping to finance the migrant caravans making their way up from Honduras and Guatemala through Mexico with the ultimate aim of reaching the US.

    But that’s about to change, as the “Open Society” founder – who famously financed much of the opposition to Trump SCOTUS pick Brett Kavanaugh – is now partnering with Mastercard to hand out money (in the form of ‘investment capital’) to migrants, refugees and “others struggling within their communities worldwide,” according to Reuters. Through their partnership, Soros is effectively providing open financial support for migrants and refugees seeking to enter the US and Europe.

    The partnership between Soros and Mastercard, which they are calling Humanity Ventures, is the result of a pledge that Soros made in September to spend $500 million to address “the challenges facing migrants and refugees.”

    In a statement, Soros and Mastercard declared that government aid programs haven’t been enough to solve the issues facing refugees, suggesting that this is a problem that only the private sector can solve.

    “Migrants are often forced into lives of despair in their host communities because they cannot gain access to financial, healthcare and government services,” Soros said.

    “Our potential investment in this social enterprise, coupled with Mastercard’s ability to create products that serve vulnerable communities, can show how private capital can play a constructive role in solving social problems,” he added.

    Right away, Soros plans to spend $50 million to provide “scaleable” health-care and education solutions. He intends to ‘invest’ the money in businesses founded by migrants.

    “Humanity Ventures is intended to be profitable so as to stimulate involvement from other businesspeople,” Soros said.

    “We also hope to establish standards of practice to ensure that investments are not exploitative of the vulnerable communities we intend to serve.”

    Soros has said that he would prefer ‘Humanity Ventures’ to be profitable to attract “other businesspeople”, it’s unclear how, exactly, he plans to earn anything approaching a reasonable rate of return by handing out risk free loans to migrants and refugees.

    This comes after Master Card back in 2016 admitted that it has handed out prepaid debit cards to migrants and refugees traveling through Europe, something the company did with the explicit blessing of the European Union and the UN High Commissioner for Refugees.

    Perhaps MSNBC and other liberals who blindly claim that Soros and his network of non-profits aren’t providing financial assistance to migrants approaching the US should consider this before they continue with their denials.

    source 2 ... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKBN1531H2

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