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    Default Re: Tinnitus. sigh. Anyone here experience this?

    I've pulled up a lot of research on this to look for the commonalities behind the nerve inflammation, the result is the inflammation is coming from endotoxins.

    Gram-negative bacteria release dangerous endotoxins primarily when they are killed.

    This can occur when the immune system or antibiotics attack the bacteria and break down their cell walls.

    When the cell walls are broken, fragments of the outer membrane are released into the body, including the endotoxins.

    Tinnitus will often occur in one ear, appear to get stronger and quieter and are modulated by stress. One can mimic the tinnutis sound by tensing the jaw muscles like one is going to grimace, squinting.. example:


    Increasing pressure on the facial and jaw nerves and those coming from the teeth causes triggering, and the "sound" appears.

    Notable gram negative bacteria are Escherichia coli, Salmonella, Shigella, Pseudomonas, Neisseria, Haemophilus influenzae, Bordetella pertussis and Vibrio cholerae.

    One member mentions having taken an antibiotic and there is a subsequent development of tinnitus.. Logical especially with the gram-negative bacteria dying off, the toxins released from the dying BACTERIA (not the antibiotic) were endotoxic. All of those bacteria can exist in the mouth, nasal, sinus, gut. When those bacteria are killed naturally by the body's immune system, or die off from a different pro-biotic species being introduced, or from antibiotics, we all run the risk of a massive dose of endotoxic poisons entering our blood stream.

    So any solutions to treating tinnitus (and other nerve inflammations, chronic pain, etc.) are hopeful methods if they can address the hypersensitivity of the nerves..

    What specifically is being triggered by the toxin? Where does the toxin come from in the gram-negative bacteria? From the Lipopolysaccharides (LPS) or the outer "skin" of the bacteria.

    The toxin triggers in the body, sepsis, a type of inflammation, where the cells leak (and put pressure on the nerves), and create a strong pain. A lower level of "pain" from the swelling in the nerves can evoke the tinnitus symptoms.

    Anything then activating a nerve sensitized by endotoxins can re-trigger the tinnitus symptoms.. Salicylate, the active component of aspirin, is known to induce tinnitus.

    There was mention of using curcumin (post 12 above), which will also reduce inflammation.. But the cause comes back to the endotoxin hypersensitization. That came from the gut, from the bacterial dying off, from bacterial "flu", all of which create different levels of that form of "toxic shock".

    Other than tinnitus one can have gut symptoms, such as "tender gut" a feeling of persistent malaise (a general sense of something is wrong but i can't put my finger on it), low level body pain, symptoms of bloating, periodic chills.. the list goes on and on, some folks have called it the Fibromyalgia syndrome. That fibromyalsia issue affects the muscles and soft tissue. Symptoms include chronic muscle pain, fatigue, sleep problems, and painful tender points or trigger points, which can be relieved through medications, lifestyle changes and stress management.

    But getting to the cause, the gram-bacterial die-off triggers the "tumor-necrosis-factor-alpha" within the cell's gene's, which triggers the inflammation which triggers pain receptors which triggers "flooding", and so forth, a nasty cascade of symptoms which left unchecked can lead to "toxic shock".

    Then getting into the nitty-gritty, to stop that inflammation cycle one needs to reach it at the target sites..

    A study of using NALTREXONE, in 50 milligram dosing levels stops tinnitus by directly plugging up the opiod receptors.

    Naltrexone is used by emergency personnel for instance to treat a morphine or heroin overdose. Opiod overdose can induce endotoxic shock. Naltrexone, an opioid antagonist, is usually prescribed for opioid and alcohol addiction.

    One can pull up this article: https://www.dailymedicaldiscoveries....-ears-forever/ to see how they researched the tinnitus and found the endotoxin link.

    In seeing the nerve receptors triggered (with the inflammation reaction resultant), if one takes morphine codeine or heroin, one can exacerbate (make worse) cellular leakage. Severe cellular leakage does exist in SEPSIS (see my thread on that in the Forum, Alt Medicine).. And that severe cellular leakage will not just cause ringing in the ears, it can cause a lot of pain and eventual death from organ failure.

    In other words, the nerve inflammation has to be reduced without using morphines or morphine-like substances (and remember the body produces it's own natural morphines).. so to properly "modulate" (vary the intensity level as needed intelligently) the body's endorphins is important.

    Turn on pain, endorphins increase, tinnitus goes up, turn off pain by reducing inflammation and the tinnitus drops and the overall body malaise sensation corrects..

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    Default Re: Tinnitus. sigh. Anyone here experience this?

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    Yes, I have experienced tinnitus in my left ear as well. This has gone on and off for decades.

    I've visited many specialists, all of whom told me there is nothing wrong with my ear.

    My history with this condition is both normal and paranormal... physical and non-physical... but it's the physical part that has incapacitated me in the past... I won't get into details as they are complicated.

    All advice given above is valid and good. However, there is more you can do.

    Personally, after trying everything above plus some, I finally found something that works for me and it is especially indicated for tinnitus of the left ear. This is a homeopathic medicine and it is called:

    CHININUM SULPHURICUM

    They say to start with 30c dose but i went directly to 200c because I was being driven insane.

    I took 4 pellets of 200c three times a day for the first week and it completely subsided. I now take it when i need it, which is not very often any more. Sometimes, one single dose is enough to take it away for months, or even years. I always keep it in my make up bag so that i know it's there if i should suddenly need it and I can't wait until I get home.

    Good luck! Let us know how you do.
    Daughter of Time, is there a homeopathic remedy for the specifically for the right ear? Thanks ahead of time. No need for a reply, you already answered my question a little further down the thread...thanks..
    Other homeopathics which can be very useful for tinnitus are the following:

    CALCAREA CARBONICA - for tinnitus in those who have a very slow metabolism

    NATRUM SALICYLICUM - for tinnitus that occurs after an illness, especially something like the flu

    I've tried all of the above and even though I have a rather slow metabolism, I found that Chininum Sulphuricum worked better for me than Calcarea Carbonica. Calcarea Carbonica helped but only a little and it was very slow in working. It all depends on what causes the tinnitus as it can be caused by a number of different factors. I recommend Chininum Sulphuricum because it worked for me and it worked rather fast.

    I hope this helps.

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    Default Re: Tinnitus. sigh. Anyone here experience this?

    I'm similar...pretty much always had it. I think it may have come from sinus/ear infections, but I really don't know.

    The thing I have found which helps is Gingko. It takes about a week to start working, but it does seem to help plus is good for concentration, I think it may help the capillaries in the head which may be affected by caffeine or other pressure. I also find ear plugs comforting although they don't stop it.

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    Default Re: Tinnitus. sigh. Anyone here experience this?

    Gingko most certainly - deals with inflammation - https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...iloba-benefits

    Gingko also deals with free radicals. So if one looks at endotoxins, they most certainly create free radical oxidative stress - The pathogenetic sequence of reactions is most definitely mediated by endotoxin (LPS) which leads to the production of sepsis - the endotoxins evoke the oxygen radicals or reactive oxygen species (free radicals).

    Besides gingko then CISTUS tea (cistus incanus thread) deals with free-radicals, probably the highest and safest natural free radical scavenger known.
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