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    Default ATLANTIS AGAIN ? ... Ancient Underwater Ruins Found off the Coast of Spain

    This one is in Spain, as opposed to Last month's Discovery in Africa.

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    Default Re: ATLANTIS AGAIN ? ... Ancient Underwater Ruins Found off the Coast of Spain

    Numerous megalithic structures and artifacts point to a very ancient, advanced, global civilization. Evidence supports that this civilization was lost in a great cataclysm. This civilization is part of our intriguing human heritage. Here is a brief summary.


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    Default Re: ATLANTIS AGAIN ? ... Ancient Underwater Ruins Found off the Coast of Spain

    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    This one is in Spain, as opposed to Last month's Discovery in Africa.

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    “Pick a spot on the map, and someone has said that Atlantis was there," Charles Orser, curator of history at the New York State Museum in Albany told National Geographic.”. 😉

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    Default Re: ATLANTIS AGAIN ? ... Ancient Underwater Ruins Found off the Coast of Spain

    There was massive changes to Earth at several points in time,-islands vanished under the sea.
    The bottom line is that I suspect its true that there was an advanced (lost) civilization of humans and their influence can be seen all over the world--there may well have been an island called Atlantis--with a name like that you would suspect some where in the Atlantic--who knows!!!!.
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    Default Re: ATLANTIS AGAIN ? ... Ancient Underwater Ruins Found off the Coast of Spain

    Quote Posted by Deux Corbeaux (here)
    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    This one is in Spain, as opposed to Last month's Discovery in Africa.

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    “Pick a spot on the map, and someone has said that Atlantis was there," Charles Orser, curator of history at the New York State Museum in Albany told National Geographic.”. 😉
    Hmm? well maybe it was.
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    Default Re: ATLANTIS AGAIN ? ... Ancient Underwater Ruins Found off the Coast of Spain

    The coast of southern Spain is an archaeological wonderland with thousands of ruins from ancient Roman and Greek cultures, but hidden among these crumbling stones, scientists from a private satellite imaging firm claim to have found evidence of “a lost city with huge harbour walls", which they believe was built by the legendary “Atlanteans,” over 10,000 years ago – the legendary city of Atlantis.

    In 400 BC Greek philosopher Plato wrote not the history of, but the ‘ story’ of Atlantis in his dialogues, the Timaeus and the Critias, written about 330 BC. Describing the catastrophic collapse of an island dwelling maritime civilization that had used high technology 9,000 years before Plato’s own lifetime, the capital city of Atlantis was described as having “huge entrance pillars, a temple to the god Poseidon, massive circular pieces of habitable land, and all this protected by ‘enormous harbour walls’.

    Despite any proven truth to the story, countless Atlantis “experts” have all successfully located the famous lost continent in places such as: the Atlantic Ocean, Antarctica, Bolivia, Turkey, Germany, Malta and the Caribbean. Only two months ago The Express published a similar article claiming a researcher had “finally discovered Atlantis” in the Sahara. Plato, however, was crystal clear about where Atlantis was located: “in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,’ i.e. “The pillars of Hercules" or the Straits of Gibraltar, at the mouth of the Mediterranean.
    Scientists at Merlin Burrows are celebrating having discovered the most important archaeological finding of all time, exactly where Plato said it was, “in front of “the pillars of Heracles.” According to a report in The Daily Mail , Atlantis, is located “north of the city of Cadiz, Andalucía, centered around the Doñana National Park,” which the Merlin Burrows historians “believe was once a vast inland sea.”

    Even though a Live Science feature in February applied clear scientific logic to establish that “Plato’s lost city of Atlantis was never lost; it is where it always was: in Plato's books,” using satellite investigation techniques, aerial photography and ground observations, the Merlin Burrows experts believe they have “found all the features of Atlantis Plato described“ and that “that south and north of the park there is further evidence of the ancient civilization, with 15 other settlements dotted along the coastline.” What is more, they have found evidence that the city was destroyed by a tsunami, again, just like Plato said happened to Atlantis.

    Showing utter defiance in the face of what will amount to a towering wall of rock hard skepticism, Maritime historian Tim Akers, head of research at Merlin Burrows, went so far as to tell reporters that his team “have collected samples which have been scientifically tested in a lab in Modena, Italy, which is used to test ancient Roman finds. The results of the tests prove the age of the finds are older than Roman or Greek, and that they were more advanced.”

    Plato wrote that the harbor wall was “50 stadia” (five-and-a-half miles) in length and the satellite images show what Merlin Burrows claim is “evidence still visible today of sand dunes where this massive wall was destroyed by a huge influx of water” measuring an incredible 75 meters (245 ft) thick. The team also claim, “Laboratory analysis' of material recovered from Spain showed evidence of a type of cement not seen before, as well as ancient advanced metallurgy.” “A greenish blue patina has been found covering some of the ruins which tests have shown is an ancient combination of metals. Plato describes in detail a patina on the buildings and structures of the cities and temples making up this complex,” Akers added.

    Andrea Carpi is a space materials engineer who commented on the tested materials: “We can confirm with certainty that the samples analyzed were the creation of an ancient civilization with advanced construction methods, which makes me believe that we're talking about a civilization with very advanced technology.’

    How Old Is ‘This’ Atlantis then?


    Tim Akers said: “The site is spread over 100 miles from the Atlantic to the Mediterranean, as to age as yet we have been unable to give a fixed date for the beginning, but its end was at the last Ice Age around 10,000 years ago.” He believes “At the centre of the line of coastal cities was one gigantic inland sea 65 miles long, filled with multiple islands, some natural, others man-made. The main complex consists of two distinct individual multi-Island platforms.”

    What is more, “one is offset from the other so that anyone on those islands can see every island in the complex. It is unique, nowhere in our world is there anything resembling this, and the structures match exactly Plato's dimensions with no deviation. It is absolutely spot on.” Merlin Burrows have recorded a documentary film about their mission to reveal Atlantis called ‘Atlantica' in which their experts visit sites ‘they believe’ still show clues to the past people that once lived there, right up to the naming of the ancient town in the region Medina-Sidonia.” Believed to be the oldest city in Europe, the archaeologists said: “The site has both Tartessian, Greek, Phoenician, and Roman additions and our scans show multiple occupations over time till the final and ultimate destruction.”

    While Tim Akers is confident that his company “only present the facts and try not to delve into speculation…” he had better really, really believe that, at the deepest most level of his being, for he is not just claiming to have found a lost city. No. This is much, much more. If a 100-mile ancient city, dating to 10,000-years-ago, is actually discovered, then our entire historical understanding of human’s path through time is incorrect. Entirely wrong.

    If all this is indeed as the scientists claim, Atlantis, then author Graham Hancock has been right all along, an advanced civilization of human beings came to a cataclysmic end around 11,000 BC and every child who has walked into a history class has been sold a lie.

    But let's hope this is not the case, and that this discovery of Atlantis is like the one made 8 weeks ago, and the two discovered in 2016, the one unearthed in 2009 and the 2 between 2003 - 2004. And similarly, to all of those previous “Atlantean” discoveries, this one is ‘not' being circulated on Science or Nature, or by ‘any’ other reputable academic communities.


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    Default Re: ATLANTIS AGAIN ? ... Ancient Underwater Ruins Found off the Coast of Spain

    If the discovery didn't make it to "Nature" it sure made it to the "Daily Mail":


    Ancient underwater ruins found off coast of Spain

    Harry Pettit Daily Mail
    Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:15 UTC


    Picture shows what UK firm believes are the remnants of the harbour wall of Atlantis which was said to be five-and-a-half miles long. Plato wrote that this wall was '50 stadia long' which would make it around five-and-a-half miles (9 km) in length

    The location of the lost city of Atlantis may finally have been discovered, according to one team of historians.

    Ancient ruins examined using satellite imagery provide evidence that the city's huge harbour walls once stood in southern Spain, the experts say.

    Many of the sites studied by the team were already known to archaeologists, and are thought to have been constructed by the ancient Romans and Greeks.

    Now researchers at private satellite imaging firm Merlin Burrows claim to have found evidence that the sites were in fact built by a mysterious ancient people known as the Atlanteans.


    The location is somewhere north of the city of Cadiz, Andalucía, centred around the Doñana National Park, which the historians believe was once a vast inland sea


    Pictured are a selection of the sites studied by the team at Merlin Burrows, a satellite imaging company based in Yorkshire. The white line shows where researchers believe the harbour wall described by Plato was built

    Atlantis was recorded in the writings of Greek philosopher Plato, who in 400 BC described an advanced island civilisation that ruled a vast maritime empire, some 9,000 years before his own era.

    The city of Atlantis at the centre of this empire was described as having an enormous harbour wall, huge entrance pillars, a temple to the god Poseidon and massive circular pieces of land carved out by the Atlanteans to live on.

    It is thought a cataclysmic natural disaster, such as a tsunami or volcanic event, eventually wiped out the Atlanteans, consigning their legacy to legend.

    Scientists are yet to find conclusive evidence that Atlantis existed. Many scholars believe Plato invented the story as a way to present his philosophical theories.

    Experts at Merlin Burrows believe the flooded ruins of the legendary city are off the coast of southern Spain.


    Image shows formations inside the Doñana National Park, Andalucia, Spain. They may be evidence of islands depicted by Plato in his story of Atlantis. The philosopher described how buildings were propped up on a mixture of natural and man made island structures


    This image shows detail on a stone object on a beach north of Cadiz, Andalucia, Southern Spain. Merlin Burrows claims this structure dates back to the time of Atlantis and is not a later Greek or Roman artefact, as many archaeologists believe

    The location is somewhere north of the city of Cadiz, Andalucía, centred around the Doñana National Park, which the historians believe was once a vast inland sea.

    And they claim that south and north of the park there is further evidence of the ancient civilisation, with 15 other settlements dotted along the coastline.

    Most of these settlements are believed to be of Roman or Greek origin by archaeologists, as each civilisation once occupied the area.

    But now using unique satellite investigation techniques, aerial photography and ground observations of the site, British experts believe they have found all the features of Atlantis Plato described and evidence of how they were destroyed.

    Although some scholars believe Atlantis to be a myth, Merlin Burrows claim their discoveries will once and for all prove the lost civilisation existed.

    Maritime historian Tim Akers, head of research at Merlin Burrows, said not only had they discovered Atlantis, but also found the people were incredibly advanced.

    He said 'laboratory analysis' of material recovered from Spain showed evidence of a type of cement not seen before, as well as ancient advanced metallurgy.

    A greenish blue patina has been found covering some of the ruins which tests have shown is an ancient combination of metals.

    He said:
    'Plato describes in detail a patina on the buildings and structures of the cities and temples making up this complex.

    'We have filmed clear evidence and have collected samples which have been scientifically tested in a lab in Modena, Italy, which is used to test ancient Roman finds.

    'The results of the tests prove the age of the finds are older than Roman or Greek, and that they were more advanced.'

    Pictured is a topographical scan of the area of the harbour wall remnants from Merlin Burrows. They claim the wall once guarded the entrace to a vast inland sea which today covers most of the area of Doñana National Park

    The city of Atlantis was described by Plato as having, among other features, an enormous harbour wall and huge entrance pillars. It had a temple to the god Poseidon and massive circular pieces of land carved out by the Atlanteans to live on

    Aerial images of the site where Merlin Burrows believes Atlantis once stood show what they think is evidence of a harbour wall - an incredible 75 metres (245 ft) thick.

    Plato wrote that this wall was '50 stadia long' which would make it around five-and-a-half miles in length.

    Satellite images show what Merlin Burrows claim is evidence still visible today of sand dunes where this massive wall was destroyed by a huge influx of water.

    The same water which eventually filled the inland sea with sediment and destroyed Atlantis.


    Image shows an aerial of some of the ancient structures which litter the western Andalucian coastline. Romans, Greeks both are recorded as settling there. However, British historians believe that many of the ruins were in fact part of the city of Atlantis

    Tim said:
    'The site is spread over 100 miles from the Atlantic to the Mediterranean, as to age as yet we have been unable to give a fixed date for the beginning, but its end was at the last Ice Age around 10,000 years ago.


    'At the centre of the line of coastal cities was one gigantic inland sea 65 miles long, filled with multiple islands, some natural, others man-made.

    'The main complex consists of two distinct individual multi-Island platforms.

    'And one is offset from the other so that anyone on those islands can see every island in the complex.

    'It is unique, nowhere in our world is there anything resembling this, and the structures match exactly Plato's dimensions with no deviation. It is absolutely spot on.

    'Investigations in Doñana lead to the conclusion that there have been two natural disasters (tsunamis) that caused the islands and dry areas to sink, one of which happened around 1500 BC and the other 200AD. There is also evidence of a tsunami event in the Bible.'
    Merlin Burrows have now recorded a documentary film about their mission to reveal Atlantis called 'Atlantica'.

    In the film the team visit sites they believe still show clues to the past people that once lived there, right up to the naming of the ancient town in the region Medina-Sidonia.


    Aerial images of the site where Merlin Burrows believes Atlantis once stood show what they think is evidence of a harbour wall (pictured), which was an 75 metres (245 ft) thick

    The settlement is believed to be the oldest city in Europe and its name means City of Sidon - the word Sidon which could be linked to Poseidon.


    This image shows ancient structures on a beach near Cadiz, Andalucia, Southern Spain. The team believes these are from Atlantis, and not later Roman or Greek additions, which is currently the accepted origin by most archaeologists


    Tim said much of what Merlin Burrows have found today with their technology is thanks to Plato's original descriptions.

    He said:
    'Plato describes the location exactly and all we did was follow in his footsteps the way ancient seafarers would have travelled to the cities.

    'We explain why, people have misunderstood the circles of Atlantis and why no one had seen these stunning complexes before.

    'The site has both Tartessian, Greek, Phoenician, and Roman additions and our scans show multiple occupations over time till there final and ultimate destruction.

    'We only present the facts and try not to delve into speculation. What is unique in our presentation is all of this material has never been seen before.'
    Now Merlin Burrows hope recognition of both their discovery and distribution of the film will help protect the region for future generations and secure funding for further study.

    Tim said:
    'To understand Atlantis is to understand the ways of ancient life as it was at the peak of human life on earth.

    'We would hope that the people in southern Spain would benefit from the knowledge of their ancient past.

    'That all the sites are protected, and in some cases moved, so we can all enjoy them in the future. Also, that the regions would benefit from the tourism both in work and other opportunities.

    'New museums and scientific study centres would enhance the economy and open active debates to the early origins of man.'
    Documentary filmmaker Michael Donnellan has produced the film 'Atlantica' about Merlin Burrows discovery.

    Michael, who has studied classical Greek and Minoan archeology, travelled to Southern Spain to film what Tim and the team of satellite historians had found.

    He said:
    'Finding and filming Atlantis has been life changing. Talk about a purpose.

    'All my skillsets and passions have come together in the creation of this series of films. The discovery of Atlantis is monumental.

    'Suddenly we know, not think, but know that humanity, in an advanced stage of development, existed, so long ago.

    'And had existed undisturbed for many thousands of years prior to its destruction.

    'The imagination boggles when considering their capabilities. We have a lot we can learn from this civilization, to help move our own into a better future.'
    Michael said that tests at the Modena Materials Analysis Laboratory in Italy on material taken from the site had revealed amazing results.

    He said:
    'The harbour wall seems to have had a coating that prevented barnacle growth, like modern Teflon.

    'That requires highly advanced construction technologies and knowledge of chemistry.

    'We've received overwhelming excitement about our discovery of Atlantis, including a great deal of feedback from our colleagues in academic circles as well.

    'It is for this reason we continue to include every science available to us, in order to verify all our finds are genuine, and to satisfy every angle we can.'
    Material gathered from the Atlantis site, from the habour wall and from the pillars found on the beach, has been tested in Italy at a laboratory used to dealing with Roman finds.

    Dr Giacomo Falanga, from the Modena Centro Prove, a chemical testing laboratory in Modena, Italy, said samples from the site included a variety of material.

    He said: 'These structures contain binders, like calcite. The presence of mica, potassium, and other trace minerals show proof of artificial mixing of materials, so the samples we have tested are made from an ancient, prehistoric concrete.'

    Andrea Carpi, a space materials engineer from the laboratory, said: 'We can confirm with certainty that the samples analysed were the creation of an ancient civilisation with advanced construction methods, which makes me believe that we're talking about a civilisation with very advanced technology.'
    WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT ATLANTIS?

    Atlantis was recorded in the writings of the famed Greek philosopher Plato around 400 BC.

    He described an advanced island-civilisation that ruled a vast maritime empire.

    According to Plato, Atlantis existed some 9,000 years before his own era.

    The city of Atlantis at the centre of this empire was described as having, among other features, an enormous harbour wall and huge entrance pillars.

    It had a temple to the god Poseidon and massive circular pieces of land carved out by the Atlanteans to live on.

    It is thought a cataclysmic natural disaster, such as a tsunami or volcanic event, eventually wiped out the Atlanteans, consigning their legacy to legend.

    Scientists are yet to find conclusive evidence that Atlantis ever existed, and many scholars believe Plato invented the myth as a way to present his philosophical theories.

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    Default Re: ATLANTIS AGAIN ? ... Ancient Underwater Ruins Found off the Coast of Spain

    Quote Scientists are yet to find conclusive evidence that Atlantis existed. Many scholars believe Plato invented the story as a way to present his philosophical theories
    I sure do wish someone would find some conclusive evidence! I wonder what happened to all the writings, and I'm suspicious any written evidence which may have been died with the destruction of the library of alexandria. I also think it's possible there could be evidence under the Sphinx, just no one dares disturb the thing enough to find out.

    It's entirely possible many of us were here previously as "Atlanteans". How would you feel if people thought you were a myth? Pretty foolish I imagine. That's rhetorical of course

    Edgar Cayce the famous psychic did numerous readings for people who he linked with Atlantis as well, and although I don't put faith in his predictions, I do think he had some kind of special connection with the beyond.

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    Default Re: ATLANTIS AGAIN ? ... Ancient Underwater Ruins Found off the Coast of Spain

    why do people believe Atlantis was just in one place/one single large island?-

    it could've been that Atlantis spread over large areas including Antarctica before a shifting of the poles caused Antarctica to become a frozen wasteland-

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