Can Dolores Cannon's work be trusted as truth?

[mindbend8r]

Dolores Cannon the hypnotist who claims when she put people under they gave messages from the peoples spirit guides and messages from the other side. It is hypnosis so im a skeptical about it cause your don't really know what is happening it could just be a response from the brain. I do wonder why the people give similar descriptions of the reason for life and life after death and how the spirit world works but maybe she unknowingly put suggestions into there mind without her even being aware.

Dolores Cannon says that everyone goes to heaven and that there is no hell, that is what the people tell her when they are under, but I was researching the Veda text and they describe that there is a hell and that there are different hell worlds in the afterlife that people go to if they were bad some hell planets worse then the other.

Obviously both cant be true, I think I would be more inclined to lean more towards the Veda description because its seems to be a very old ancient knowledge and it seems like it would be more accurate. I know the Vedas were written over centuries so im not sure if maybe later they added the hell description at a later time. Can the Vedas be trusted as a valid source of truth and can Dolores Cannons works be trusted as a source of truth. Cause even though they do intersect with some ideas such as ascension there are ideas that don't seem to align with each other. I guess im trying to find if there are dark hellish worlds that really exist and if people really go there when they die. Or no one goes to hell and goes back to there original spirit self when they die. Im conflicted in my thoughts about the subject.

[greybeard]

Here is a thought.
When a person dies without"Self realization" (Enlightenment) they are still in Maya --Samsara.
So the illusion of a separate person, karma, rebirth and all that applies in duality continues.
The enlightened have moved on from concepts ---silent awareness--one consciousness prevails.
Ancient text says "One without a second" that is very clear.
Ancient text also says re Krisna--"I reincarnate from time to time to ---cant find the quote
However a lot in Bhagavad Gita, about killing the "unjust" my words.
https://www.litcharts.com/lit/the-bh...n-and-the-self

So if you are enlightened definitely, no heaven or hell--no separate person to go there.
The un--enlightened may well end up in a heaven or hell of their own making bu thats within the illusion of the seperate self.
Jesus was clear too Heaven lies within--"Seek you first the Kingdom of Heaven" "The Kingdom of Heaven lies within"
So it ts available in this "life"
Dolores may well be correct in Maya.

Not saying im right--its a "May be so"

Chris

[mindbend8r]

Thanks greybread, I have a follow up question, if a person ends up in hell and you say its an illusion are you saying it isn't real. Can the hell be eternal or forever, or is the person bound to eventually see that it is only an illusion. Just curious

[greybeard]

Posted by mindbend8r (here)
Thanks greybread, I have a follow up question, if a person ends up in hell and you say its an illusion are you saying it isn't real. Can the hell be eternal or forever, or is the person bound to eventually see that it is only an illusion. Just curious

Your questions are very valid and I had these too.
There is no definitive answer--Im just joining dots as best I can
So this is just my best guess

An illusion is real--just not what it seems to be--the mirage in the desert for example.

The mystics say that the only thing that is eternal is Self.
If there is a judgment day then even up to the last moment one can ask for clemency which will be given.
That what Jesus said. as far as I remember Bible Study.

I believe in a "God" of love a non judgmental one.
So even if there is a hell then a loving God would ensure that the person would see "The error of their ways" and be released.

Hope this helps
Chris

[5th]

I'm prepared to go out on a limb here and state that the idea of hell was created by religion as a means to control people. It does not exist.

Apart from the fact that one lifetime and then everlasting heaven or hell is laughingly simplistic you would have to believe in a pretty awful God to create such a reality. Heaven and hell as a concept are both within and have nothing to do with death. Since we create our own reality while alive, it may well be that we can do so after we die in which case brainwashed Muslims might meet Allah and brainwashed Christians might meet Jesus but as certain as can be, hell as in eternal damnation is a pea brained human construction.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by 5th (here)
the idea of hell was created by religion as a means to control people. It does not exist.

Yes, 100% for sure.

[lunaflare]

I enjoyed the books by Dolores Cannon--they were enjoyably mind-expanding and there is wisdom in the experiences that she chronicled. I haven't read them all but the responses from others suggest her regression sessions and books have assisted many thousands of people to better understand the vast nature of reality. But "truth"? Well, that is subjective.

Heaven and Hell are certainly agents of control--in the religious sense, concepts which can create feelings of superiority and specialness or unbridled fear.

Surely one can look to this plane of existence-here on planet earth-- to see the potentiality of both heaven and hell. Seems very real --when Nature is thriving, unpolluted and organic, it is a heaven on earth.

The Vedic texts are also channelled material (by Rishis in states of meditation).

Yeah, I like the belief that the soul--the "I" in this earthly body is eternal...part of a changing cosmic consciousness...

[EFO]

Can Dolores Cannon's work be trusted as truth?

Always.

Try Alba Weinman instead.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt3...bSoIudQ/videos

[greybeard]

I dont have a problem with trusting Dolores Cannon's work.
She heard what she heard and recounted that--she did not make it up.
Is it true though?
The future is hypothetical so another may be so.
Her story is very positive--so thats good.

Ch

[5th]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by 5th (here)
the idea of hell was created by religion as a means to control people. It does not exist.

Yes, 100% for sure.

Definition of hell:

I make a post and get 2 Thanks.

You agree with it and get 3.

[Arcturian108]

Although I was trained by Dolores Cannon to be a hypnotherapist, and did occasionally use her methodology, I found her writing to be more like fantasy at times. If you are looking for some ideas concerning the afterlife experience, I trust Robert A. Monroe's Journeys Out of the Body: The Classic Work on Out-of-Body Experience 1992 more. He was so intimate with other realms and writes about it convincingly.

[enfoldedblue]

I am a Quantum Healer. I am trained in Beyond Quantum Healing which is a new deep hypnosis modality inspired by Delores's QHHT. What I have found through personal experience, client experience, and research is that 'hell' is really just a state of mind. We create our reality and thus can manifest 'hell' if we believe in it. However, this is not an independent objective reality hell, and we will only remain in that state until we eventually realize that it is of our making.

However, there are spaces, or realms that do seem to have a degree of more objective reality. From what I have seen there is the void...which is absolute pure nothingness...unending blackness. When consciousness experiences the void, the experience can range from absolute terror at the vastness and emptiness--- to absolute peace. Obviously the way we experience this state depends on our own inner state. The void will magnify this state out infinitely. For those who have achieved inner peace this will be beautiful. For those who have inner turmoil the experience will be nightmarish.

There is also another state/realm that seems to be one level up from the void. This is the gray space. This space is described as unending foggy grayness. There are absolutely no reference points, nothing to focus on..just unending gray mist. I had a client who found himself in this space. Fortunately I had read about this space and knew where he must be when he described it. For him it was absolutely neutral..not positive or negative, no time, nothing to do, nothing to worry about, no body..just grayness. From what I understand this is a realm that is pre-form. Nothing has crystallized into form. In the session we used the opportunity of being in this spce for some deep healing and re-setting. It was very potent.

However, I have read that some entities upon death can get stuck in this gray space and for them it can feel like a type of hell. For my client it felt like a brief reprieve from a busy and often chaotic life, but for those who end up stuck there the experience is often negative. Again this could have to do with their inner state. What is interesting is that I found a blog online (we'll see if I can find it again) of a woman who works with her deceased husband to rescue souls from this space. From what I read it seems that what they do is get the stuck being to begin to use their imagination. Imagination is the language of the soul and, though we don't give it much credence in this reality, it is the first step in creating worlds and universes.

[onawah]

Hell states are very real for the person who is stuck in them.
People who die suddenly under some kind of catastrophic circumstances, who are not at all prepared to make the transition to the other side, can get stuck in painful out of body states (some of them become ghosts).
I speak from experience, because I had a Near Death Experience in 1972, when I was struck by a hit and run driver when I was about to walk across a street.
Fortunately, there were 2 eyewitnesses who called an ambulance, otherwise I would have perished there on the street.
As it was, I maintained consciousness for a couple of minutes, then went unconscious until the ambulance arrived.
The ambulance attendants nearly killed me by giving me a shot of morphine so strong it nearly stopped my heart, and that was when I found myself in a terrifying, very painful black void.
I wasn't there long in ordinary time, but it felt like eternity.
Fortunately, the phone numbers of 2 friends were discovered and they were called, and came to the ER immediately.
They were both healers and very spiritual people, and I could feel them pulling me out of the void and back into my body.
I have no idea how long I might have remained there, and I will be eternally grateful to my 2 friends for being there for me.
I was hospitalized for 5 months with multiple broken bones and other injuries, but the pain and sorrow my injuries caused were nothing compared to the terror I felt in that black void.
And I didn't believe in hell either; in fact, I had been meditating and doing spiritual practice for some years before that, though I was exhausted at the time and not in a very good space.
I've read about spiritual workers who go to the sites of concentration camps to do healing work on the poor souls who perished there, and I honor them so much for doing that.
I would say that hell is not just a state of mind we create for ourselves, but that other people can create hell for us, too.

[neutronstar]

Posted by greybeard (here)

Posted by mindbend8r (here)
Thanks greybread, I have a follow up question, if a person ends up in hell and you say its an illusion are you saying it isn't real. Can the hell be eternal or forever, or is the person bound to eventually see that it is only an illusion. Just curious

Your questions are very valid and I had these too.
There is no definitive answer--Im just joining dots as best I can
So this is just my best guess

An illusion is real--just not what it seems to be--the mirage in the desert for example.

The mystics say that the only thing that is eternal is Self.
If there is a judgment day then even up to the last moment one can ask for clemency which will be given.
That what Jesus said. as far as I remember Bible Study.

I believe in a "God" of love a non judgmental one.
So even if there is a hell then a loving God would ensure that the person would see "The error of their ways" and be released.

Hope this helps
Chris

Hell is a place of healing for the troubled soul, but because those that are there are so dark, it seems like a very bad place to the average soul.

That is my view.

[James Newell]

Here is a little practical Re Hell: Stand up for a second, first thought now: Point to the location where Hell is, good, now point to the direction Heaven is. Good. Frankly, I would avoid those areas when you are ready to depart the body.

[Rhogar]

I think some of her theory has potential to be true like the three waves of volunteers which explains some of abnormality in certain people including myself,but the theory about the new earth, to me at least, is unacceptable just like ascension.also in my opinion heaven and hell created for controlling people.

[TomKat]

Posted by mindbend8r (here)
Dolores Cannon the hypnotist who claims when she put people under they gave messages from the peoples spirit guides and messages from the other side. It is hypnosis so im a skeptical about it cause your don't really know what is happening it could just be a response from the brain. I do wonder why the people give similar descriptions of the reason for life and life after death and how the spirit world works but maybe she unknowingly put suggestions into there mind without her even being aware.

Dolores Cannon says that everyone goes to heaven and that there is no hell, that is what the people tell her when they are under, but I was researching the Veda text and they describe that there is a hell and that there are different hell worlds in the afterlife that people go to if they were bad some hell planets worse then the other.

Obviously both cant be true, I think I would be more inclined to lean more towards the Veda description because its seems to be a very old ancient knowledge and it seems like it would be more accurate. I know the Vedas were written over centuries so im not sure if maybe later they added the hell description at a later time. Can the Vedas be trusted as a valid source of truth and can Dolores Cannons works be trusted as a source of truth. Cause even though they do intersect with some ideas such as ascension there are ideas that don't seem to align with each other. I guess im trying to find if there are dark hellish worlds that really exist and if people really go there when they die. Or no one goes to hell and goes back to there original spirit self when they die. Im conflicted in my thoughts about the subject.

Preston Dennett, an experienced astral projector, has a lot to say about it. Also check out Stuart Wilde. My take is that people like alcoholics, drug addicts, those of guilty conscience, the possessed, go to the hell they were in while alive but are trying to ignore. But nothing is permanent. A psychological condition while alive is a place when you are dead, a place you are already in while alive, but don't know it.

[Pam]

I don't think there is any intentional deception in the works of Delores Cannon. I can't speak for what she did before she became well known but I absolutely see her leading and suggesting in her later work. She obviously had some initial evidence that led her down this path. Also, those that chose to be hypnotized by her were also initiated into her work so of course they are going to be biased at some level. I am not saying anyone is consciously perpetuating her new world theory through deception, I think there is a huge influence from the power of belief and preconceived notions. I wonder what kind of results she would have gotten if she took someone off the streets that had never heard of her and wasn't into any new age concepts?

If you have die hard fans of Delores coming to be hypnotised and she is clearly leading them to expound on her agenda, I wonder how valuable that information is? Once again, I am not saying there is deception, I think belief and suggestion are strong elements here.



.

[Justplain]

Although I am not familiar with Cannon's work, in the work of Michael Newton, 'Journey of Souls' and 'Destiny of Souls', the soul world sounds similar to Delores's version: non-judgemental, no hell, mostly fun and learning, etc. However, a drawback I found with Newton's work, and from what I've heard of Cannon's, is the lack of accounting for negative entities like archons/demons and/or evil aliens. I have become convinced that both of these evil groups are deeply involved in the human experience. To say that our hell here on Earth is of our own making is an extreme distortion, if not an outright lie.

Another interesting work is the channeled account of T. E. Lawrence ('Post-mortem Journal: Communications from Lawrence of Arabia Through the Mediumship of Jane Sherwood' ) in which he describes a shared reality that he was experiencing with other deceased humans. They lived in communities similar to on Earth and were occupied with trying to come to grips with their new reality. They didn't need food, worked at whatever was their desire (ie. there were universities on that plane) and when an individual passed away, they lit up like a lightbulb and then quickly faded away (ie. like an electron jumping quantum levels). My take on this is that in the afterlife, there are shared realities, just like this one, that are used by some/many/perhaps most souls in their journey back to their higher self. The work of Newton may just reflect the highest part of our consciousness immediately returning to Source soul schools, while the less evolved part of our consciousness has to go through intermediate levels to reach the same destination.

Our souls are very complex and powerful beings, I believe, as evidenced by our shared realities and near death/afterlife experiences. So, I would assume that if some hell world in the astral was deemed as needed, then it exists. Though the thought that it would be eternal is 'pea brained'.

Therefore, I would conclude that Cannon's work is 'filtered' and likely only reflects part of our souls' experiences here or in the afterlife. This is a difficult and complex topic. Another issue, is we know about 'soul harvesting' being conducted by evil aliens, and none of this accounted for in Cannon's, or Newton's, work. When all the evidence is considered, there isn't a fairy tale afterlife nor is there eternal damnation, just a lot of in-between.

[greybeard]

Neck on the line
The mystics say only one Soul.
That's Oneness--One without a second. (Non duality)
Now if this is so--all the rest is story time, play of consciousness---Maya.

Where the sofa till I get behind i, smiling




Chris